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| 00:53.01 | brailsmt | han_solo: you should ask the sysadmins to upgrade, I can do that if you want... |
| 00:53.15 | brailsmt | i bet they would if they were also supplied with the rpm... |
| 00:53.23 | brailsmt | Evan after all is a vim user |
| 00:53.26 | brailsmt | :) |
| 00:53.59 | brailsmt | 345 students also have our quota raised to 350 MB :) |
| 00:55.02 | brailsmt | we need the space to build the kernel... |
| 00:55.50 | kryptik | Brailsmt: was it you who told me to type some garbage to the @chanServ a while back? |
| 00:56.43 | brailsmt | han_solo: did you get the password for 460? no |
| 00:56.50 | brailsmt | oops... no |
| 00:56.56 | brailsmt | i don't know maybe... |
| 00:57.00 | brailsmt | did you? |
| 01:05.55 | Jayce^ | garbage to chanserv? |
| 01:11.31 | kryptik | yea, told me to type something to him |
| 01:11.33 | kryptik | to it. |
| 01:11.44 | kryptik | and it did something funky to it |
| 01:14.10 | brailsmt | i don't think I would ever tell anyone to type garbage to chanserv while being serious... |
| 01:14.49 | han_solo | brailsmt: not regular cs labs - the 460 lab. separate |
| 01:15.17 | kryptik | Ok, well it was someone and it did something funky. I wanted to look into it some more |
| 01:15.17 | han_solo | brailsmt: yeah, I got logged in. |
| 01:15.18 | han_solo | think the password ended up being on blackboard |
| 01:16.14 | han_solo | brailsmt: I'm thinking of retaking 345 |
| 01:18.43 | han_solo | My electronic music class is way funky, and I'm thinking of dropping it, but need to take something else if I do |
| 01:18.43 | han_solo | but I need something easy, and fun. :) |
| 01:18.43 | han_solo | when does it meet? |
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| 01:22.23 | brailsmt | han_solo: I am in the class with your brother, we meet from 15:00-16:00 MWF in 373 MARB |
| 01:22.56 | brailsmt | han_solo: i just officially added 460 today and I am not enrolled in the class with blackboard yet... |
| 01:24.37 | brailsmt | the other sections are 14:00-15:00 MWF, and 9:00-10:00 MWF, all sections meet in 373 MARB |
| 01:24.37 | brailsmt | i am not sure about the 9-10 time, it may be 10-11 |
| 01:24.44 | brailsmt | the experience will be very nice for 345 |
| 01:25.20 | brailsmt | lets see the morning class is taught by Cornell, the afternoon classes are taught by Snell... |
| 01:25.49 | han_solo | 3-4 works for me |
| 01:26.10 | han_solo | the quiz is on blackboard too... of course it's not all that many points |
| 01:26.18 | han_solo | get this (from blackboard) |
| 01:26.45 | han_solo | Due to a techincal error with enrollment databases and Blackboard, some students were temporarily dropped from their classes. OIT is addressing the problem and we estimate that students will be able to access their classes by 5:00 p.m. today (Tuesday, January 7, 2003) We apologize for the temporary difficulty. |
| 01:27.20 | brailsmt | yeah I saw that... |
| 01:27.27 | han_solo | i can't figure out if blackboard totally unenrolled the students or just got their stuff messed up |
| 01:28.05 | han_solo | if the latter, maybe someone should tell them it's always messed up. I've had music 193 on blackboard since the very beginning. funny thing, I took 193 long before blackboard existed, and from a different teacher. |
| 01:28.07 | brailsmt | i can't figure out why on earth route-y is done with C... |
| 01:28.41 | han_solo | because someone over there is old-school. I know someone who works over there and it's all about he knows C and doesn't want to learn another language |
| 01:28.55 | han_solo | 'someone' being in a position of management |
| 01:29.39 | han_solo | IMO you have to be insane or masochistic to do CGI in C |
| 01:29.59 | brailsmt | han_solo: or both |
| 01:30.14 | han_solo | gosh I love TFF |
| 01:31.27 | kryptik | how long would it take for a bus to get from pg to provo |
| 01:31.32 | kryptik | to the plug building |
| 01:32.06 | han_solo | kryptik: you'd have to catch the 850 down to the provo transit center, then some other bus over to UVSC |
| 01:32.16 | han_solo | that could take about 1.5 hours if you're unlucky, closer to one hour if you are lucky |
| 01:32.23 | kryptik | Hmm |
| 01:32.35 | kryptik | Man yet another reason to get a license |
| 01:32.37 | han_solo | there's another bus that goes by UVSC direct that comes from home depot, might check that one out |
| 01:32.44 | han_solo | rideuta.com |
| 01:33.08 | han_solo | or just bug Jayce^, maybe he'll give you a ride. it's more or less on his way |
| 01:33.26 | kryptik | I dont want to have to do that; I barely know him |
| 01:33.54 | han_solo | he doesn't bite. I signed his key after all. ;-) |
| 01:34.11 | kryptik | Heh. |
| 01:34.30 | kryptik | I am sure he wouldn't mind, but still.. I would feel dumb doing that. |
| 01:34.53 | han_solo | oh well, he's heard this whole conversation anyway, so you don't have to ask. if he wants to he'll volunteer. ;-) |
| 01:35.26 | kryptik | ... |
| 01:35.41 | kryptik | When is the next one |
| 01:36.32 | han_solo | feb 8 |
| 01:36.39 | kryptik | Hmm, ok. |
| 01:36.44 | kryptik | What was this last one on? |
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| 02:04.19 | kryptik | Man I get kicked for flooding alot. |
| 02:33.58 | Jayce^ | gee han_solo, so nice to voulenteer me :) |
| 02:34.18 | Jayce^ | actually, uf it's easy enough to find it's ok.. |
| 02:34.54 | kryptik | Well do you know the hospital road |
| 02:35.01 | Jayce^ | uhh.. yeah |
| 02:35.38 | kryptik | I live on the corner, right across from a bank |
| 02:35.39 | kryptik | on main |
| 02:36.35 | han_solo | hehe. sorry, I couldn't resist since you were obviously away |
| 02:37.13 | Jayce^ | I might be heading by to pick up alan, so might need to get my wife's car.. |
| 02:41.27 | Jayce^ | we probably should put a sign up at CEDO, just in case some people go there.. |
| 02:42.31 | kryptik | Yea. That would be cool |
| 02:44.08 | Jayce^ | hrmm.. anybody know if x/linux has a problem hot-swapping a ps2 keyboard? same type of keyboard at that? should it work? |
| 02:44.36 | han_solo | i think it's a hardware issue |
| 02:45.53 | kryptik | I will sand it for you |
| 02:46.09 | han_solo | ps/2 hot swapping is Not RecommendedTM |
| 02:46.11 | Jayce^ | http://jayce.provopm.org/gallery/jayce/Computers/dsc00016.jpg for reference to what I'm talking about.. |
| 02:46.15 | han_solo | i've had a computer lock up when hot-swapping a mouse |
| 02:46.15 | han_solo | I've heard war stories of damaged hardware |
| 02:46.15 | han_solo | you're painting your keyboard? |
| 02:46.33 | Jayce^ | in the process of it.. |
| 02:50.23 | Jayce^ | http://jayce.provopm.org/gallery/jayce/Computers/dsc00022.jpg?width=640 |
| 02:50.33 | Jayce^ | just took that one.. gotta make my flash go on.. |
| 02:53.28 | Jayce^ | http://jayce.provopm.org/gallery/jayce/Computers/dsc00023.jpg?width=640 |
| 02:53.33 | Jayce^ | there, that one is better.. |
| 02:54.30 | Jayce^ | opinions? comments? |
| 02:54.50 | Jayce^ | still have to do the numpad and F-keys... |
| 02:55.07 | kryptik | I like your site layout |
| 02:55.30 | Jayce^ | oswd all the way.. been modifying it though.. |
| 02:56.22 | kryptik | Heh, it looks good |
| 02:58.56 | kryptik | The XML page cannot be displayed |
| 02:58.56 | kryptik | Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet. Please correct the error and then click the Refresh button, or try again later. |
| 02:58.56 | kryptik | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 02:58.56 | kryptik | End tag 'p' does not match the start tag 'br'. Error processing resource 'http://jayce.provopm.org/gallery/jayce/Computers/dsc00023.jpg'. Line 200, Position 11 |
| 02:58.57 | kryptik | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:58.59 | kryptik | ----------^ |
| 02:59.00 | kryptik | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.28 | Jayce^ | heh? wierd.. |
| 03:00.51 | kryptik | Yea, just a tag fault |
| 03:01.11 | Jayce^ | wierd, works for me? what browser you using? never seen that error on my site.. |
| 03:01.25 | kryptik | ie |
| 03:01.57 | Jayce^ | do you get it on any other pages? |
| 03:02.06 | kryptik | Nope |
| 03:02.08 | kryptik | just that one |
| 03:02.15 | kryptik | must be my machine |
| 03:02.21 | Jayce^ | try reloading? |
| 03:02.31 | Jayce^ | must be, because every page is the same.. it all dynamic.. |
| 03:02.43 | kryptik | Yea, its still there; even with a ctrl reload |
| 03:03.15 | han_solo | oswd? |
| 03:05.08 | Jayce^ | oswd.org |
| 03:05.24 | Jayce^ | open source web design.. they now have pay ones too, but shared designs... |
| 03:06.22 | Jayce^ | because I am not a designer.. |
| 03:06.50 | Jayce^ | I get html logically.. and have no trouble understanding it.. but creating a good design.. bah.. |
| 03:27.57 | kryptik | Man, lots of ppl hate mormons |
| 03:28.50 | han_solo | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:28.54 | Jayce^ | yup... been perusing the anti sites? |
| 03:31.37 | kryptik | Yea, and tons of people who are yelling at me; threats some of them |
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| 04:04.44 | Bradipo_ | Hallo. |
| 04:04.59 | Bradipo_ | Anyone else having DNS issues with the SPEWS RBL just about now? |
| 04:07.54 | han_solo | man, I ALWAYS have issues with SPEWS. not usually DNS though |
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| 05:32.50 | kryptik | ln -s /bin/bash ~/tmp/bin |
| 05:32.59 | kryptik | export PATH=. |
| 05:33.05 | kryptik | export IFS=/ |
| 05:33.09 | kryptik | hmm |
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| 15:54.01 | Bonez39 | I need help setting up a remote printer...anyone? |
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| 16:37.51 | Jayce^ | anybody here know what errorcode 255 is from sendmail? |
| 16:41.12 | Bonez39 | wish I new Jayce... |
| 16:41.25 | Bonez39 | do you know much about remote printing under linux? |
| 16:42.25 | Jayce^ | a little.. |
| 16:42.38 | Jayce^ | use cups :) |
| 17:00.02 | levi | Yeah, cups is where it's at. |
| 17:00.20 | levi | OS X uses cups now, too. |
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| 17:13.52 | Bonez39 | levi: here's my dilemma..are you still on? |
| 17:14.08 | Bonez39 | I can print to my locally attached laser jet iii printer... |
| 17:14.55 | Bonez39 | if I print from virtual windows running in win4lin...it prints fine, but from linux apps, it always defaults to page size A4. Even if in the linux app I change the size to US Letter, it still makes me hit the Continue button before the job will print |
| 17:16.00 | Jayce^ | interesting.. |
| 17:16.19 | Jayce^ | which linux/cups? |
| 17:16.55 | levi | I've had that problem with OpenOffice/StarOffice before. |
| 17:17.16 | levi | And postscript apps that are screwily set to A4 by Europeans. |
| 17:19.41 | levi | If you're printing postscript stuff, try printing to a file and searching for page size in there. If it's in the file, it's not cups fault. |
| 17:21.01 | Bonez39 | caldera 3.1...cups? version ? how do I tell which version of cups it is? |
| 17:21.24 | Bonez39 | oh, there it is....0.9 |
| 17:21.37 | Bonez39 | I am not trying to print anything postscript... |
| 17:22.51 | Bonez39 | [scott@scott scott]$ kups --version |
| 17:22.51 | Bonez39 | Qt: 2.2.4 |
| 17:22.51 | Bonez39 | KDE: 2.1 |
| 17:22.51 | Bonez39 | Kups: 0.9 |
| 17:22.51 | Bonez39 | [scott@scott scott]$ |
| 17:23.17 | Bonez39 | back in a few |
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| 19:24.31 | han_solo | well, debian has switched over to gcc-3.2 in unstable |
| 19:46.09 | Jayce^ | definately unstable :) |
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| 21:14.32 | Bonez39 | does that mean if I am going to move over to debian, from caldera that I need to specific a different compiler? |
| 21:16.14 | Jayce^ | no, that means that the debian unstable version is using the newer compiler.. but the regular doesn't use that newer one.. |
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| 21:21.35 | Bonez39 | oh, I have so much to learn |
| 21:21.48 | Jayce^ | everybody does.. that's half the fun :) |
| 21:22.12 | Bradipo | What's the othe rhalf? |
| 21:22.28 | Jayce^ | playing. |
| 21:22.46 | Jayce^ | or maybe it's getting to be part of the 'elitist' group :> |
| 21:22.51 | Bradipo | It's not showing off your uber leet skillz? |
| 21:22.55 | Bradipo | :-) |
| 21:23.22 | Bradipo | But learning is definitely part of the fun. |
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| 23:22.14 | Jayce^ | looks like we might be getting a decent sized crowd for this one.. |
| 23:22.36 | Jayce^ | anybody else here in the room coming tonight? |
| 23:23.53 | han_solo | grr. I have to figure out how to cat a bunch of pdf files into one |
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