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| 00:28.39 | fugalh | brailmst: yeah, our 470 final time is dedicated to the tournament, and my mfg201 final is tomorrow as well |
| 00:29.03 | brailsmt | i am enrolled in mfg202 winter... |
| 00:29.18 | brailsmt | on your advice... |
| 00:29.25 | brailsmt | i hope it is easier than hist201... |
| 00:29.40 | fugalh | most likely |
| 00:29.59 | brailsmt | i have enrolled and dropped hist201 twice already :) |
| 00:31.08 | fugalh | sounds like phscs 220 and I |
| 00:31.27 | brailsmt | i liked 220 |
| 00:31.39 | brailsmt | i thought it was vastly easier than 122 |
| 00:32.17 | brailsmt | at least until quantum mechanics and relativity |
| 00:32.21 | fugalh | i thought 220 was the old 122. |
| 00:32.28 | brailsmt | is it? |
| 00:32.37 | fugalh | well, whichever one used to be 122 |
| 00:32.49 | brailsmt | i don't know... 122 was electricity |
| 00:32.50 | fugalh | 123 is the one you're talking about, I'm in it now. I like it |
| 00:32.59 | brailsmt | 122 is death |
| 00:33.10 | brailsmt | at least the 122 i took... |
| 00:33.10 | fugalh | that's the one I've flirted with and dropped |
| 00:33.21 | brailsmt | is it still req'd for CS? |
| 00:33.23 | fugalh | it's going to be last semester - right up there with ahtg |
| 00:33.37 | fugalh | at least for the track I'm on |
| 00:33.44 | brailsmt | vastly easier... |
| 00:34.04 | fugalh | thinking of doing that with my wife over the summer |
| 00:34.19 | brailsmt | i took 252 at uvsc too |
| 00:34.24 | brailsmt | CS252 that is |
| 00:35.59 | brailsmt | 252 scared me, I had it and dropped it because I had Dr. Hayes, and I couldn't hear/understand him |
| 00:36.20 | fugalh | i had a grad student. it was fun and not so bad |
| 00:37.14 | brailsmt | i don't like Dr. Hayes... I generally work my scehdule around his classes... |
| 00:37.42 | brailsmt | like I was gonna take compilers this semester, but he was the only professor teaching it at a time I could go... |
| 00:44.25 | brailsmt | DANGIT!!! |
| 00:44.41 | brailsmt | i hate when I forget to plug my laptop in and the battery dies... |
| 00:45.38 | brailsmt | i gotta learn acpid stuff so I can give myselff warnings... |
| 00:46.12 | brailsmt | phew... |
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| 01:14.16 | fugalh | brailsmt: you taking 431 this coming semester then? |
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| 02:36.24 | brailsmt | han_solo: no, just 404 and mfg202 |
| 04:15.49 | han_solo | oic |
| 05:03.33 | brailsmt | interesting Pres. Denna notes posted to the UUG ML |
| 05:03.52 | brailsmt | very interesting |
| 05:04.09 | brailsmt | I already posted some questions in regard to it |
| 05:22.27 | han_solo | looks like it was real good |
| 05:22.42 | han_solo | textbook lecture for 428 |
| 05:23.02 | brailsmt | yeah, I wish I was there... |
| 05:23.17 | han_solo | i was studying 470 |
| 05:24.53 | han_solo | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.59 | han_solo | +training" |
| 05:25.05 | han_solo | not likely with the current setup, from what I've heard |
| 05:25.54 | brailsmt | i think the smart money is on gui design... |
| 05:29.03 | han_solo | agreed. interesting: * open source development and the church |
| 05:29.11 | han_solo | * gifted people consecrate their time to the development: the church wants to |
| 05:29.11 | han_solo | +adopt a crippled form of the open source development model. you would have to |
| 05:29.11 | han_solo | +be authenticated within the church to work on the software, and the source |
| 05:29.11 | han_solo | +would be kept secret within the church |
| 05:29.38 | brailsmt | you see my comments about that? |
| 05:30.06 | han_solo | not yet. still on the original message |
| 05:32.01 | brailsmt | *** investment that IBM is making in linux is interesting to denna |
| 05:32.01 | brailsmt | *** 250 engineers are dedicated to the linux kernel @ IBM |
| 05:32.01 | brailsmt | *** maps to converge AIX to Linux |
| 05:32.05 | han_solo | i think by elbow he means all of a sudden the membership growth explodes |
| 05:32.06 | brailsmt | i found that interesting |
| 05:33.07 | han_solo | 'd love to have a calling as church hacker. ;-) |
| 05:33.12 | brailsmt | :) |
| 05:33.49 | brailsmt | the Elders quorum will have a fourth committee, the IT committee |
| 05:33.52 | brailsmt | :) |
| 05:34.00 | han_solo | this stuff is exciting. y'know it's why technology exists in the first place... |
| 05:34.17 | brailsmt | yeah, thats why I said smart money is on gui design |
| 05:34.29 | brailsmt | since that is what the church needs ATM |
| 05:34.59 | han_solo | i wouldn't be surprised if they are working on it |
| 05:35.14 | brailsmt | as a missionary a companion and I had an idea to become inventors and invent whatever the church needed most at any one time... |
| 05:35.23 | brailsmt | we would be b'zillionaires :) |
| 05:35.29 | han_solo | when I worked there (web programming - mormon.org) they had a good setup with lots of design people and lots of effort to make the websites usable |
| 05:35.55 | brailsmt | so Denna is the church's CIO? |
| 05:36.02 | brailsmt | or CTO |
| 05:36.05 | han_solo | we actually worked on a web site that piloted this year in a few places |
| 05:36.10 | han_solo | yeah |
| 05:36.15 | han_solo | CIO I think |
| 05:36.34 | han_solo | 'Local Units' - basically the ward/stake on a web site |
| 05:36.45 | brailsmt | my dad is stake president, it'll be interesting to see what comes of that jan 11 meeting |
| 05:37.10 | han_solo | you'd log in with user/pass and depending on who you were you could get to the ward roster, leadership rosters, etc. |
| 05:37.13 | brailsmt | assuming he can tell me before it is announced |
| 05:37.16 | han_solo | or edit the information (dynamic CMS) |
| 05:37.34 | han_solo | trying to sync databases was a big issue |
| 05:38.07 | brailsmt | Dr Woodfield is working on some interesting research with geneaology and distributed data... |
| 05:38.39 | han_solo | yeah. I'm tempted to jump ship and try to get in with him instead of with Dr. Sederberg |
| 05:39.09 | brailsmt | he is working on a hyperspace network setup with over 4 billion node capability, and you would have to take out a little over half the nodes before you lost any data... |
| 05:39.24 | brailsmt | if the research numbers are right... |
| 05:39.32 | brailsmt | that was impressive... |
| 05:39.41 | brailsmt | you work for Dr. Sederberg? |
| 05:39.44 | han_solo | yeah, that is impressive |
| 05:40.18 | brailsmt | i really want to get into some research stuff as an undergrad... |
| 05:42.16 | han_solo | do it |
| 05:42.37 | brailsmt | i have to get my wife to quit working first... |
| 05:42.47 | han_solo | it pays less than other jobs (ceiling is something like 11.25 iirc. I should, it's what I get paid, but my memory is bad) |
| 05:42.53 | brailsmt | she is pretty adamant about me finishing school without working... |
| 05:43.23 | han_solo | research experience would be very good to have under your belt |
| 05:44.34 | brailsmt | Dr Woodfield hinted at getting me some work that could get me published befrore graduating... that is very good to have |
| 05:45.06 | han_solo | do it, I say. I do most of my work from home anyway |
| 05:45.11 | brailsmt | especially since I have grad school aspirations |
| 05:45.17 | han_solo | not like that's saying much - I work about 2-5 hours a week during the semester |
| 05:45.28 | han_solo | especially do it then |
| 05:45.39 | brailsmt | I ought to do it anyway... next semester is an easy one anyway... |
| 05:45.52 | brailsmt | cs404 and mfg202 |
| 05:46.03 | brailsmt | no coding required |
| 05:46.04 | brailsmt | :) |
| 05:46.07 | han_solo | that's it? |
| 05:46.11 | brailsmt | yeah |
| 05:46.27 | brailsmt | i may add an hour class to get up to half time |
| 05:46.31 | han_solo | wanna help with my ruby gedcom parser? |
| 05:46.39 | han_solo | to keep your coding sharp. ;-) |
| 05:46.42 | brailsmt | sure |
| 05:46.49 | brailsmt | i will be looking for something to do then... |
| 05:46.53 | han_solo | and you'r enot working? |
| 05:47.33 | han_solo | I'm going to audit woodfield's 600-level next semester |
| 05:48.43 | han_solo | on design patterns and whatnot |
| 05:48.57 | brailsmt | what time of the day? |
| 05:49.12 | han_solo | lemme check |
| 05:50.38 | han_solo | cs 625 10-11 mwf |
| 05:50.56 | brailsmt | that is when I have mfg202... :( |
| 05:51.17 | han_solo | oh? it met at 11 for me. that's too bad |
| 05:52.06 | brailsmt | i want to take 525 real bad... |
| 05:52.31 | han_solo | aim is telling me it meets at 11 |
| 05:52.36 | brailsmt | no one knows when it will be offered again... |
| 05:52.38 | han_solo | mfg202, that is |
| 05:53.12 | brailsmt | yeah, i was wrong, it meets at 11 |
| 05:53.16 | han_solo | you mean 625? |
| 05:53.36 | han_solo | if not, what is 525? |
| 05:54.01 | brailsmt | no, 525... UML |
| 05:54.54 | brailsmt | Knutson at least had no idea when it is offered next |
| 05:55.05 | brailsmt | Dr. Knutson that is... |
| 05:55.35 | han_solo | but Erin probably wouldn't go for that |
| 05:55.42 | brailsmt | 425 - 525 - 625 == the only software engineering courses at BYU... sad :( |
| 05:56.10 | brailsmt | and 240 counts for 1/4 software engineering course... |
| 05:56.12 | brailsmt | :) |
| 05:56.22 | han_solo | 525 isn't even listed in the 02-03 catalog |
| 05:56.28 | brailsmt | yeah i know... |
| 06:00.47 | brailsmt | i have 525 in the schedule before... |
| 06:00.58 | brailsmt | i have seen it, i mean |
| 06:03.19 | brailsmt | www.cs.byu.edu/courses |
| 06:03.24 | brailsmt | lists 525... |
| 06:04.23 | brailsmt | but the link is dead... |
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| 22:00.13 | levi | Anyone here listen to Stereolab? |
| 22:06.29 | Jayce^ | nope, guess not. |
| 22:08.15 | levi | Oh. Well, their singer/guitar girl just recently died in a cycling accident. |
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| 23:53.04 | han_solo | so how long will cdparanoia sit there trying to get past a part that's giving it trouble? |
| 23:54.43 | CosmicPenguin | Long time |
| 23:55.15 | CosmicPenguin | I've had bad CDs go for hours before |
| 23:55.41 | han_solo | will it eventually move on? |
| 23:57.56 | CosmicPenguin | It seems that it has a timeout for each sector, so a bad 2 seconds will take forever... :) |
| 23:59.01 | han_solo | is it worth the wait? or should I turn off paranoia or something like that? |
| 23:59.43 | CosmicPenguin | The songs don't sound too bad when you finally get them ripped, I guess |
| 23:59.55 | CosmicPenguin | Its just really annoying to have to wait forever |