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| 00:38.04 | Bonez39 | Han...still here? |
| 00:38.14 | Bonez39 | do you use GRUB for booting/loading? |
| 00:38.18 | han_solo | lil |
| 00:38.19 | han_solo | o |
| 00:38.29 | Jayce^ | LI |
| 00:38.36 | Jayce^ | :) most dreaded lilo prompt :) |
| 00:39.00 | Bonez39 | well, here's my question..I compiled a new kernel..have a new entry for it in GRUB....but I don't believe I have initialized it correctly..so that it will boot my new kernel. |
| 00:39.12 | Bonez39 | any ideas on how to do this? |
| 00:39.28 | han_solo | LI 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 |
| 00:39.34 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 00:39.43 | han_solo | that's the most dreaded lilo prompt. :) |
| 00:39.49 | Bonez39 | I know that with lilo you execute the command /sbin/lilo to apply the configuration changes.. |
| 00:39.53 | han_solo | no, I don't use grub |
| 00:39.56 | Bonez39 | ok.. |
| 00:40.03 | han_solo | but if you used lilo, that I can help with |
| 00:40.06 | Bonez39 | any ideas where to look? |
| 00:40.22 | han_solo | yeah, the grub config file and the grub man page |
| 00:40.29 | han_solo | think it's /etc/grub.conf or something like that |
| 00:40.41 | Jayce^ | I thought grub was supposed to autodetect that? |
| 00:40.45 | han_solo | CosmicPenguin knows grub |
| 00:40.56 | han_solo | so I hear, grub doesn't need to be rerun every time |
| 00:41.28 | Jayce^ | 'the clapper'.. a must for every windows syadmin's computers.. |
| 00:43.29 | Bonez39 | Jayce^? |
| 00:43.37 | Jayce^ | whaddup Bonez39? |
| 00:43.51 | han_solo | ibot, hit Jayce^ |
| 00:43.52 | | bugger all, i dunno, han_solo |
| 00:43.52 | Bonez39 | well, I tried rebooting and selected the option with the new kernel and it just froze..did nothing.. |
| 00:44.00 | han_solo | ~hit Jayce^ |
| 00:44.01 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, han_solo |
| 00:44.13 | han_solo | ~insult Jayce^ just because |
| 00:44.15 | Jayce^ | ibot, insult han_solo's video card |
| 00:44.32 | han_solo | uninspiring. got that right |
| 00:44.35 | Jayce^ | Bonez39: might be a problem with the compile then.. |
| 00:44.59 | Bonez39 | is there a command used to verify a kernel to see if it compiled correctly? |
| 00:45.11 | Jayce^ | init 6 :) |
| 00:45.13 | han_solo | reboot? ;-) |
| 00:45.30 | Bonez39 | I rebooted....yes, init6 |
| 00:45.31 | han_solo | not that I know of |
| 00:47.25 | han_solo | any output? when did it hang? |
| 00:51.37 | Bonez39 | no, no output.... |
| 00:52.21 | Jayce^ | wonder if it's just grub not working?? does it leave the grub screen or anything? |
| 00:56.44 | Bonez39 | no, nothing happens..I ran a check by typing grep mki_version_ /proc/ksyms |
| 00:56.55 | Bonez39 | and it reports back with a version number 3.0.1 |
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| 01:05.25 | han_solo | there's your grub expert |
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| 02:33.22 | bbeattie | Mecworks: postnuke doesn't exist under stable, it looks like it's under testing only. I've got a list of packages it wants to update, so let me know when you see this... :-) |
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| 06:14.15 | kryptik[work] | What up all. |
| 06:15.48 | kryptik[work] | Right... its near 11:30... most people have lives. |
| 06:16.17 | bbeattie | huh? they do? |
| 06:16.39 | kryptik[work] | Ok, normal people. |
| 06:19.03 | kryptik[work] | I dont even know if I should say normal... how about family people. I think that is the main reason it is so slow in here late at night. |
| 06:25.42 | bbeattie | Monday night, in utah.. It does lower the probability. |
| 06:28.04 | kryptik[work] | Hey, do you know why the arrow keys print letters rather than move the cursor in vi? |
| 06:28.44 | cpenguin_home | Bad termcap |
| 06:28.47 | bbeattie | yes, |
| 06:29.15 | bbeattie | type 'echo $TERM' and tell me what it says, and also check to see if you have just vi, or if you have vim too. |
| 06:29.42 | kryptik[work] | k hold up |
| 06:30.24 | kryptik[work] | Doesnt say anything, and yes I have VIM |
| 06:30.40 | brailsmt | i you really want to have some fun, you can do ":nmap i :set ri | normal a<right>" |
| 06:30.57 | brailsmt | s/i you/if you |
| 06:30.59 | kryptik[work] | what does that do |
| 06:31.04 | kryptik[work] | im lost |
| 06:31.10 | brailsmt | set s reverse insert |
| 06:31.22 | kryptik[work] | oh, why would you do that |
| 06:31.23 | brailsmt | so you type from right to left... :) |
| 06:31.29 | kryptik[work] | just for fun? |
| 06:31.34 | brailsmt | and typing 'i' in normal will trigger it... |
| 06:31.42 | kryptik[work] | well I am all for it |
| 06:31.45 | kryptik[work] | doing it now |
| 06:32.26 | kryptik[work] | actually I better not |
| 06:33.34 | kryptik[work] | oh another question, is there a way to compare what programs and files can be used by a certain user or group, as compared to yours? |
| 06:33.38 | kryptik[work] | or does that make sense |
| 06:39.08 | kryptik[work] | ok it must not have, how about this. Where would a user most likely store .c files |
| 06:39.44 | brailsmt | kryptik[work]: cvs |
| 06:39.46 | brailsmt | :) |
| 06:40.03 | kryptik[work] | ok and where is that located.. in /var? |
| 06:40.09 | kryptik[work] | no |
| 06:40.12 | brailsmt | i have a 'dev' directory in my home dir beneath which i put all my source files... |
| 06:40.36 | brailsmt | /usr/bin/cvs probably... |
| 06:40.46 | kryptik[work] | k |
| 06:41.24 | Bonez39 | any grub experts here? |
| 06:41.37 | kryptik[work] | how do I print only a couple items at a time? |
| 06:41.41 | kryptik[work] | they go by to fast |
| 06:41.51 | brailsmt | ls | less |
| 06:42.01 | cpenguin_home | or ls | more |
| 06:42.10 | cpenguin_home | more or less... :) |
| 06:42.12 | brailsmt | less has more than more has... |
| 06:42.21 | brailsmt | so less it more, more or less... |
| 06:42.21 | cpenguin_home | more is always more than less |
| 06:42.32 | kryptik[work] | um wow, that was complicated. |
| 06:42.52 | brailsmt | not in linux... in which case less is more than more... |
| 06:43.02 | kryptik[work] | oh ok |
| 06:43.08 | brailsmt | :) |
| 06:43.21 | brailsmt | but seriously, less has more features than more |
| 06:43.24 | kryptik[work] | so i type ->ls | more |
| 06:43.30 | kryptik[work] | and that will do it? |
| 06:43.34 | kryptik[work] | or? |
| 06:44.01 | brailsmt | it will show you output a page at a time... |
| 06:44.04 | kryptik[work] | heh i try to look for it using ls --help but that goes by to fast to... |
| 06:44.21 | brailsmt | hit space to page dorward, and 'b' to page backward |
| 06:44.32 | brailsmt | ls --help | less |
| 06:44.43 | kryptik[work] | awesome, now why is less more powerful |
| 06:44.52 | brailsmt | <pretty much anything> | less |
| 06:45.00 | kryptik[work] | hmm |
| 06:45.09 | kryptik[work] | <enter>prints one line at a time |
| 06:45.09 | brailsmt | you can go page backwards... |
| 06:45.13 | kryptik[work] | cool |
| 06:45.39 | kryptik[work] | ls -la | more |
| 06:45.47 | brailsmt | less is also used my man pages... |
| 06:45.48 | kryptik[work] | ls | more -la |
| 06:45.54 | kryptik[work] | is that how I do it |
| 06:46.02 | brailsmt | so if you do "man printf" it will get displayed in less |
| 06:46.15 | brailsmt | yes |
| 06:46.26 | kryptik[work] | Ok thanks guys, your my heros |
| 06:46.26 | brailsmt | '|' is a pipe... |
| 06:46.33 | kryptik[work] | yea i got it workin |
| 06:46.35 | kryptik[work] | thanks |
| 06:46.42 | brailsmt | it feeds the output of one command as the input of another... |
| 06:46.56 | brailsmt | and you can do all sorts of stuff... |
| 06:47.07 | brailsmt | ls | grep \.c | less |
| 06:47.13 | brailsmt | ls | sort | less |
| 06:47.19 | kryptik[work] | ahh.. |
| 06:47.26 | brailsmt | ls | sort | grep \.c | less |
| 06:47.32 | kryptik[work] | ok i just did a ls -la | more and it worked a charm |
| 06:47.34 | brailsmt | and on and on |
| 06:47.43 | brailsmt | great |
| 06:47.50 | kryptik[work] | man there is a lot in that dir |
| 06:47.58 | brailsmt | in /usr/bin |
| 06:48.03 | brailsmt | you bet there is... |
| 06:48.20 | kryptik[work] | isnt that where all your commandline commands are kept? |
| 06:48.51 | brailsmt | most are |
| 06:49.00 | kryptik[work] | hmm good to know |
| 06:49.08 | kryptik[work] | btw that cvs was not there |
| 06:49.18 | brailsmt | there are also some in /bin /usr/sbin /sbin /usr/X11 |
| 06:49.19 | kryptik[work] | but a couple files with c++ were |
| 06:49.25 | kryptik[work] | ahh |
| 06:49.26 | brailsmt | type cvs --help |
| 06:49.29 | kryptik[work] | k |
| 06:49.42 | brailsmt | kryptik[work]: what os? |
| 06:49.50 | brailsmt | or distro |
| 06:49.52 | kryptik[work] | redhat 7.0 |
| 06:50.02 | kryptik[work] | i knew what you meant |
| 06:50.12 | brailsmt | then i bet you already have cvs on there... |
| 06:50.30 | brailsmt | you know what cvs is? |
| 06:50.37 | brailsmt | it isn't a directory to store files... |
| 06:50.53 | kryptik[work] | ahh ok, just trying to find a place where a person would keep there source, i am trying to find a file with a bug that coudl be exploited to gain priveldges |
| 06:50.57 | brailsmt | it is a place to store revisions of files so that several ppl can work on the files... |
| 06:51.02 | kryptik[work] | ahh |
| 06:51.13 | kryptik[work] | oh is it that check out program? |
| 06:51.33 | brailsmt | yes |
| 06:51.42 | kryptik[work] | dood that is pretty cool, i just bought a cvs pocket references and it did not even dawn on me |
| 06:51.45 | brailsmt | well, it is one of those check out programs :) |
| 06:51.57 | kryptik[work] | oh ok |
| 06:52.21 | brailsmt | i have a /usr/cvs that lives on its own partition... |
| 06:52.33 | kryptik[work] | really, what is that for? |
| 06:52.38 | kryptik[work] | the partition i mean? |
| 06:52.58 | brailsmt | i keep it on a seperate parition so that it is more isolated from the rest of the system... |
| 06:53.15 | kryptik[work] | ahh ok |
| 06:53.39 | kryptik[work] | i knew someone here would know my n00b questions |
| 06:53.44 | brailsmt | just like i have a /boot partition that gets unmounted after i boot |
| 06:53.57 | kryptik[work] | wow |
| 06:54.09 | kryptik[work] | heh the most automated mounting i have is the floppy and cdrom |
| 06:54.12 | kryptik[work] | and that was cake |
| 06:55.17 | kryptik[work] | | less is way cooler in my eyes... |
| 06:55.49 | brailsmt | i have /var on its own parition too... i do that since /var tends to get big with lots of log files and stuff... |
| 06:56.28 | brailsmt | keeping it on its own partition limits the space that logs can use... and if a log file gets too big it won't have adverse affects on the rest of my system... |
| 06:56.51 | brailsmt | lots of stuff to learn as a newbie... :) |
| 06:57.04 | brailsmt | what text editor do you use? |
| 06:57.12 | kryptik[work] | vi |
| 06:57.15 | kryptik[work] | and vim |
| 06:57.20 | kryptik[work] | what ever my fingers type first |
| 06:57.28 | kryptik[work] | which is usually vi |
| 06:57.32 | kryptik[work] | that was dumb... |
| 06:57.35 | brailsmt | i am not going to push any editor, but you should learn to use one editor, and learn it well |
| 06:57.52 | brailsmt | good choice... I am a vim freak :) |
| 06:57.53 | kryptik[work] | well, i think vim is best it seems like it just can do more |
| 06:58.05 | kryptik[work] | cool |
| 06:58.21 | brailsmt | not to mention that you can script vim with your choice of four languages :) |
| 06:58.27 | kryptik[work] | so is everyone here, i take it |
| 06:59.01 | kryptik[work] | Heh, I hope I can get cought up to you guys, and before I graduate. |
| 06:59.15 | kryptik[work] | Only a year away... |
| 06:59.53 | brailsmt | you will... |
| 06:59.57 | brailsmt | at the Y? |
| 07:00.16 | kryptik[work] | No, American Fork High School... |
| 07:00.20 | brailsmt | wow... |
| 07:00.21 | brailsmt | :) |
| 07:00.32 | brailsmt | you are getting a *big* head start |
| 07:00.32 | kryptik[work] | heh |
| 07:00.59 | kryptik[work] | I hope it pays off, I started about a year ago, and I am frantically trying to catch up to you guruus |
| 07:02.39 | kryptik[work] | It all works out, cause I work doing what I love, and I live with my cousin who is nuts about computers as well as her husband. |
| 07:02.53 | kryptik[work] | That was kinda a question in itself. |
| 07:03.01 | kryptik[work] | KINDA |
| 07:03.01 | Bonez39 | what's your job, kryptik? |
| 07:03.07 | kryptik[work] | application programmer |
| 07:03.27 | brailsmt | Bonez39: just ask |
| 07:03.27 | kryptik[work] | web apps |
| 07:03.30 | Bonez39 | neither of you use Grub..do you? |
| 07:03.34 | brailsmt | i do |
| 07:03.34 | kryptik[work] | nah, sorry |
| 07:03.42 | brailsmt | i am no expert though... |
| 07:03.46 | Bonez39 | I am trying to get Grub to recognize a new kernel..... |
| 07:03.50 | kryptik[work] | what is grub |
| 07:03.58 | Bonez39 | it's a bootloader |
| 07:04.00 | kryptik[work] | Oh right... I knew that. |
| 07:04.11 | kryptik[work] | The one you guys said was better than lilo or something like that |
| 07:04.38 | kryptik[work] | If lilo is even the same thing |
| 07:05.16 | Bonez39 | well, lilo is a loader too..... |
| 07:05.33 | Bonez39 | all I know is that GRUB came installed as the bootloader with my Caldera 3.1 installation |
| 07:05.38 | Bonez39 | so I am using it.... |
| 07:05.43 | brailsmt | oh ok... |
| 07:05.46 | kryptik[work] | Hmm and why does everyone here use GRUB, is it better |
| 07:05.48 | kryptik[work] | ? |
| 07:05.52 | brailsmt | i can help with that... |
| 07:05.54 | kryptik[work] | personal opinion i know |
| 07:06.07 | brailsmt | i think it is better than lilo... |
| 07:06.17 | Bonez39 | finally, someone supportive of GRUB |
| 07:06.21 | brailsmt | but i only used lilo when i was on mandrake... |
| 07:06.30 | kryptik[work] | Hmm so do some of the others here. |
| 07:06.30 | kryptik[work] | Heh |
| 07:06.34 | kryptik[work] | I use lilo on rh |
| 07:06.41 | kryptik[work] | and a caldera version |
| 07:06.48 | brailsmt | i have never used it else where... i set grub up all by my self on this system... and it is easy... |
| 07:07.30 | kryptik[work] | hmm i have only had to set up lilo (change anything in the conf file) once.. and that was on a older release of caldera, my rh7 did it for me |
| 07:07.38 | brailsmt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.38 | brailsmt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.38 | brailsmt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.38 | brailsmt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.38 | brailsmt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.40 | brailsmt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.43 | brailsmt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:07.55 | Bonez39 | here's my question then..I went in and edited my menu.lst file in /boot/grub to have it point to the location of my newly configured kernel |
| 07:07.55 | kryptik[work] | how do you paste so fast |
| 07:07.58 | kryptik[work] | nm |
| 07:08.11 | kryptik[work] | Well doods, later I have school in six hours |
| 07:08.19 | Bonez39 | thanks, Kryptik |
| 07:08.20 | brailsmt | your new kernel must be in /boot, afaik |
| 07:08.21 | brailsmt | cya |
| 07:08.29 | Bonez39 | ok, I copied it there..... |
| 07:08.30 | kryptik[work] | Aight later guys, thanks for the help |
| 07:09.08 | Bonez39 | is a name like 'win4lin2.4.19' ok, as a kernel name/ or should I rename it? |
| 07:09.23 | brailsmt | then you just need those three lines... the title for the menu, the root() for where the kernel is, and kernel for the name of the kernel |
| 07:09.49 | Bonez39 | ls |
| 07:09.49 | brailsmt | Bonez39: I don't know... I don't think it matters, but it might... |
| 07:10.33 | brailsmt | Bonez39: what is the problem you get? might the problem be the kernel and not grub? |
| 07:11.11 | brailsmt | you can run grub from a command line interface at boot up... i think 'e' is the command to enter the grub cmd line |
| 07:11.51 | brailsmt | or you can also run grub from the command line, and use it to see if you can find your kernel... |
| 07:12.02 | Bonez39 | I changed the name of it to win4lin2419 |
| 07:12.06 | brailsmt | for that just type grub at your shell prompt |
| 07:12.21 | Bonez39 | when i had it opened in vi, the coloring changed after the . in win4lin2.4.19.. |
| 07:12.36 | brailsmt | and then grun has a noce tab completion to help you find what is available on your system... |
| 07:13.03 | Bonez39 | well, the new menu entry does show up in the boot loader when I boot up.... |
| 07:13.20 | Bonez39 | but you say if I type grub at the command line, that should initialize the menu.lst file? |
| 07:13.25 | brailsmt | it might be a kernel problem then... what hapens when you select that menu item? |
| 07:13.36 | brailsmt | Bonez39: no, it will run grub... |
| 07:13.54 | Bonez39 | well, before making this change to the name of the kernel, it would just sit there and do nothing, frozen essentially |
| 07:14.11 | brailsmt | hrmm... |
| 07:14.48 | Bonez39 | so, what happens now if I type 'grub' at my command line? that won't freeze my system will it? |
| 07:14.53 | brailsmt | well, sorry, i gotta go... i hate to leave you hanging like this, but I gotta go... :( |
| 07:15.03 | brailsmt | Bonez39: no it won't... i just did it on my system... |
| 07:15.42 | brailsmt | you might want to ask for help in #linux... |
| 07:15.49 | brailsmt | cya... |
| 07:15.56 | Bonez39 | thanks |
| 07:15.56 | brailsmt | #linux is pretty helpful... |
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| 07:52.29 | kryptik | Anyone still up? |
| 07:56.28 | kryptik | Nah? Ok well I just had one question |
| 07:56.30 | kryptik | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:57.31 | kryptik | So if you can tell me where I would find the file he is working on or anything else that might be usefull in pinpointing the flaw out, please let me know at tyler@sunergize.com Thankx. |
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| 14:57.56 | Jayce^ | no comments from the peanut gallery? |
| 15:02.03 | han_solo | the peanut gallery wakes up |
| 15:02.26 | han_solo | just so vim can use it? |
| 15:02.35 | Jayce^ | hehe, forgot the time diff |
| 15:02.57 | Jayce^ | yeah, vim with ruby support... just like the perl support... |
| 15:03.17 | Jayce^ | still couldn't bring myself to add in python support.. |
| 15:03.33 | han_solo | actually I was up, just on the other desktop configuring a kernel (should be doing physics, but oh well) |
| 15:03.57 | han_solo | I have ruby support in my vim. haven't used it yet |
| 15:05.17 | Jayce^ | hrmm. gvim can't open as root when x is open as a user.. |
| 15:06.13 | han_solo | how do you become root? on debian gvim (and other x apps) will work through sudo |
| 15:06.30 | han_solo | but not through su. on other distros I've seen su work if you don't do su - |
| 15:08.34 | Jayce^ | su |
| 15:09.52 | Jayce^ | hehe. |
| 15:16.15 | han_solo | remember all the trouble I was having with alsa modules a while back? |
| 15:16.35 | han_solo | well you gotta love debian. If I had waited a month, all I would have had to do was apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.19-k6 |
| 15:17.16 | han_solo | of course now it's too late. I'm addicted to compiling kernels again |
| 15:18.18 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 15:56.09 | Jayce^ | until dec 18th? |
| 15:57.03 | han_solo | 22 days |
| 15:57.14 | han_solo | have you seen the special ed. dvd? |
| 15:57.39 | Jayce^ | yeah, bought it the day it came out.. |
| 16:02.56 | han_solo | oh, i remember now. brought it to plug. |
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| 20:19.59 | bbeattie | Mecworks: around? |
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| 21:44.00 | kryptik[work] | Ahhh. No more school for a week |
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| 23:23.38 | Jayce^ | school? :) |
| 23:37.30 | kryptik[work] | Yup school. I dont have it again till monday |
| 23:44.41 | kryptik[work] | Hey how do I search all dirctories for a file |
| 23:45.06 | BZFlag | find . -iname \*foo\* |
| 23:45.17 | kryptik[work] | what is the foo? |
| 23:45.29 | BZFlag | oh. you're on windows.... |
| 23:45.42 | kryptik[work] | no, i just am so new to linux |
| 23:45.49 | BZFlag | dir /s foo.doc or start->file->files... |
| 23:45.59 | BZFlag | -kryptik[work]- VERSION mIRC v6.03 Khaled Mardam-Bey |
| 23:46.14 | kryptik[work] | what!? |
| 23:46.38 | kryptik[work] | You lost me back at foo. |
| 23:46.42 | BZFlag | you are using mIRC at present, or at least claiming to. |
| 23:46.56 | BZFlag | so I presumed that you were on Windows. |
| 23:47.12 | kryptik[work] | Ok |
| 23:47.34 | kryptik[work] | Well about four or five feet away is a linux box, and that is what I am on |
| 23:47.45 | BZFlag | on Linux if you want to find a file that has the "foo" in the name and it's some place in the user "bar"'s home directory you could do: |
| 23:47.55 | BZFlag | find /home/bar -iname \*foo\* |
| 23:48.15 | BZFlag | locate foo would work and be faster if the file has been there for a while. |
| 23:48.26 | kryptik[work] | Thats just it, I am looking for a file I think called "amos, but I dont know where it is at all |
| 23:48.39 | BZFlag | try "locate amos" |
| 23:48.47 | kryptik[work] | ok |
| 23:49.05 | BZFlag | baring that, try "find / -iname \*amos\*" |
| 23:49.17 | kryptik[work] | permission denied, it needs to be something a guest account would have privildges to |
| 23:49.24 | kryptik[work] | ahh ok |
| 23:50.06 | BZFlag | you may get a bunch of permission denied msgs, that's ok. try "find / -iname \*amos\* 2>/dev/null" to hide them. |
| 23:50.21 | kryptik[work] | Ok cuase I got a thousand or so |
| 23:51.20 | kryptik[work] | */usr/bin/amos* thanks. |
| 23:51.25 | BZFlag | np |
| 23:54.23 | kryptik[work] | Any idea how a program (that tells if <NAME> is a file or directory), could grant higher privlidges. |
| 23:57.39 | kryptik[work] | */usr/bin/amos* is a compiled .c that inputs a path from the user. It then takes that input and prints whether or not it is a file or directory... if that makes sense. |
| 23:57.52 | kryptik[work] | I think it is a compiled c file |
| 23:58.33 | Jayce^ | .c wouldn't be a compiled program. |
| 23:58.48 | kryptik[work] | .exe would, i know |
| 23:59.14 | kryptik[work] | but it is not a text file of any sort, so it must be binary right? |
| 23:59.26 | kryptik[work] | which is most likely compiled source. |
| 23:59.26 | Jayce^ | well, in windows it would be .exe .. it'd be real easy in perl :) |
| 23:59.34 | kryptik[work] | heh. |