| 00:04:49 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 23:29:33) |
| 07:01:37 | bmidgley | hey utahns |
| 07:01:57 | bmidgley | or utah enthusiasts |
| 07:04:07 | bmidgley | (sounds of crickets) |
| 07:19:57 | bbeattie | (Sound of head falling asleep on keyboard) |
| 07:25:24 | bbeattie | falls asleep again |
| 07:25:34 | BZFlag | hey, some of us are working. ;-) well, not me, but some of us I hope. |
| 13:10:25 | Bonez39 | greetings |
| 14:29:01 | han_solo | anybody awake? |
| 14:41:38 | Mecworks | I( am |
| 14:42:13 | han_solo | Anybody know if it's too late to register to vote, if I have changed my address since last time I voted? |
| 14:42:27 | Mecworks | don't know |
| 14:42:32 | han_solo | I guess I mean anybody = Mecworks since everyone else is sawing logs. :) |
| 14:42:43 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 14:46:36 | han_solo | dang. I think I missed the boat by one day |
| 14:47:02 | han_solo | my theory is, #1 reason why people don't vote: procrastinating voter registration |
| 14:54:17 | Mecworks | agreed |
| 15:06:31 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
| 15:06:35 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 15:26:04 | han_solo | yay, I get to vote |
| 15:44:26 | CosmicPenguin | Thats funny.... I don't often see people get that happy about it |
| 15:44:46 | han_solo | I thought I had missed the registration cutoff |
| 15:45:07 | han_solo | but I had registered when I got married. Even though I changed address since then, I'm ok |
| 15:45:45 | CosmicPenguin | same voting area then? |
| 15:46:24 | han_solo | yeah. just moved in provo |
| 15:50:03 | CosmicPenguin | downloads 2.5.44 |
| 15:57:46 | han_solo | good luck |
| 15:57:57 | Bradipo | Morning. |
| 15:58:16 | han_solo | it was easier to get to compile than 2.5.42, but still had issues with my nic and with raid |
| 15:59:55 | Jayce^ | considers http://freshmeat.net/releases/101905/ |
| 16:03:11 | Jayce^ | pokes neybar... nice to see you finally did that article.. but next time, use the extended section.. |
| 16:04:48 | CosmicPenguin | I want to play with the new crypto stuff, but I don't like using bitkeeper, so I guess I'll wait for 2.5.45 |
| 16:05:59 | Jayce^ | I'm glad our company isn't using bitkeeper anymore.. |
| 16:08:35 | Jayce^ | wb neybar |
| 16:08:47 | neybar | thnx |
| 16:09:12 | neybar | i just had xwindows lockup everything, I couldn't even ssh into the box... |
| 16:09:20 | Jayce^ | wow.. |
| 16:09:39 | neybar | i know |
| 16:09:52 | neybar | first time for everything I guess... :-) |
| 16:11:39 | Jayce^ | heh.. kelly really wants me to move my office upstairs now.. |
| 16:11:51 | Jayce^ | thinks it might encourage getting parts of our basement done.. |
| 16:12:33 | neybar | lol |
| 16:12:44 | neybar | it would be warmer... |
| 16:14:31 | Jayce^ | very much so.. |
| 16:14:35 | Jayce^ | we had snow this morning.. |
| 16:14:42 | han_solo | here too |
| 16:14:51 | han_solo | but that was 6am, it didn't stick |
| 16:15:10 | Jayce^ | nice... stuck here until about 9.. still some on shaded rooftops, since the frost helped that.. |
| 16:20:21 | Jayce^ | dangit.. I want kde 3.1 to be done.. |
| 16:23:26 | CosmicPenguin | dowloads the festival speech code |
| 18:09:09 | Mecworks | Bradipo: you awake? |
| 18:23:36 | CosmicPenguin | Alright, only three major problems with 2.5 |
| 18:23:41 | CosmicPenguin | Thats pretty good |
| 18:37:36 | Mecworks | Hi tim |
| 18:38:01 | CosmicPenguin | Doh - I have a bad spot on my root disk, right where /var/run/xfs.pid and /var/run/gdm.pid are locadted |
| 18:39:09 | Mecworks | xfs.pid? Is that a daemon that runs when you use xfs? |
| 18:39:29 | Mecworks | (is that a file which contains the pid...) |
| 18:40:44 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, thats the file which contains the pid. Kinda important in the RH world |
| 18:41:18 | Bradipo | Actually, more thatn RH use that convention. |
| 18:41:18 | CosmicPenguin | Also, annoyingly, the fbcon didn't work. I don't really know why |
| 18:41:44 | CosmicPenguin | I was actually refering to XFS, but you are right about the convention |
| 18:43:55 | Mecworks | that's understandable. |
| 19:52:51 | Quazar | ello peeps |
| 19:53:10 | Quazar | anyone available for answering questions? |
| 19:56:05 | Quazar | =/ guess not |
| 20:14:52 | Jayce^ | amazing the people who say they dont' join plgu because it's a "linux" list, and not a Unix list.. they really should just sit in there for a while.. |
| 20:15:49 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, plus PUUG just doesn't cut it in the name department |
| 20:16:13 | Jayce^ | just can't give up that name.. it's too cool.. |
| 20:17:53 | Jayce^ | well, then there is the whole Provo aspect... I think they said there has been 1, maybe 2 meetings in provo.. |
| 20:23:59 | CosmicPenguin | UVLUG... :) |
| 20:24:20 | CosmicPenguin | oohvlug doesn't roll off your tounge very easily |
| 20:24:21 | Jayce^ | yup.. that was suggested.. |
| 20:24:29 | CosmicPenguin | But better than HVLUG... |
| 20:24:37 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 20:24:47 | Jayce^ | it's staying plug.. if nothing more than for the domain name |
| 21:19:08 | Bonez39 | here's a Kmail question..not sure if this is the place...but here goes.. |
| 21:19:46 | Bonez39 | I often need to mail to a large group of patients who have email addresses, i.e., updates, policy changes, etc...I am using Kmail 1.2 |
| 21:20:21 | Jayce^ | k.. you just trying to create some address group? |
| 21:20:50 | Bonez39 | is there a way to create groups in the address book (using Abbrowser book) so that to send to all 'patients' I just put 'patients' on the to: line? instead of having to manual add everyone? |
| 21:21:01 | Bonez39 | yea, Jayce..that's it. and address group |
| 21:21:16 | Jayce^ | kaddress book has a 'distribution list' option in the File menu |
| 21:24:47 | Bonez39 | really, now if I switch over to Kaddress book, from abbrowser..what happens? Do I lose any of my contact info? |
| 21:26:14 | Jayce^ | no idea |
| 21:26:24 | Jayce^ | abb might have a similar thing |
| 21:27:38 | Bonez39 | ok..I'll poke around.. |
| 21:39:54 | Bonez39 | what version of Kaddress book are you referring to, Jayce? |
| 21:43:45 | Jayce^ | I have 3.0 here.. |
| 21:49:34 | Bonez39 | hmmm maybe that's my problem, my 1.2 version didn't include anything about distribution lists... |
| 21:49:52 | Bonez39 | I guess that's my next challenge..how to upgrade my kde/kmail package |
| 21:50:01 | Jayce^ | what system you running? |
| 21:50:31 | Bonez39 | Caldera Open Linux, 3.1 workstation, it's kernel 2.4.2 |
| 21:51:31 | Jayce^ | no idea if it has update packages then.. haven't used caldera in a long time.. |
| 21:53:23 | Bonez39 | ok... |
| 21:55:59 | Bonez39 | Jayce..when you said you have 3.0..referring to KDE right? not to kmail? |
| 22:03:39 | Jayce^ | kaddressbook 3.0... kde 3.0.3 |
| 22:04:58 | Bonez39 | oh, I see.. |
| 22:43:44 | Jayce^ | what was that? neybar? |
| 22:56:38 | jalance_ | hello? |
| 23:16:54 | han_solo | is there a command to get the ip address of an interface (i.e. without having to parse the output of ifconfig)? |
| 23:29:40 | neybar | you want just the ip and no other info? |
| 23:30:11 | han_solo | yeah |
| 23:30:27 | han_solo | I can't get a consistent name from my dhcp server, so I'm writing a script to export the ip I have |
| 23:30:40 | han_solo | (to a file which I scp to another server) |
| 23:30:54 | neybar | hmm, I don't know. I can't think of anything off the top of my head that could do that with out parsing |
| 23:32:24 | levi | You could write one. :) |
| 23:33:34 | han_solo | naturally. And I will if there's not one. :) |
| 23:34:11 | han_solo | there ought to be something more generic (even if a system call) than ifconfig though |
| 23:34:31 | CosmicPenguin | There is a system cal,l |
| 23:35:05 | CosmicPenguin | but thats not what you're looking for in a script |
| 23:35:51 | han_solo | right, but I'd rather write a small c program that does the system call and spits the answer out on stdout, and use that in my script, than write something that parses ifconfig. |
| 23:36:07 | han_solo | not because it's harder to do the latter, but the former would be more reusable, and robust |
| 23:39:49 | CosmicPenguin | tis easy to do |
| 23:40:10 | levi | han_solo: I've got some code sitting around to do it... |
| 23:41:11 | CosmicPenguin | Just open up a socket, copy your interface name into ifr_name, call ioctl(fd, SIOCGIFADDR, &ifr), and the network aligned address is put into ifr.ifr_addr.sin_addr.s_addr |
| 23:41:24 | CosmicPenguin | where ifr is a struct ifreq; |
| 23:43:28 | neybar | #!/usr/bin/perl -w |
| 23:43:29 | neybar | use strict; |
| 23:43:29 | neybar | my $output = `ifconfig eth0`; |
| 23:43:29 | neybar | my @stuff = split(/\s/,$output); |
| 23:43:29 | neybar | my $thing; |
| 23:43:30 | neybar | foreach $thing (@stuff){ |
| 23:43:32 | neybar | if ($thing =~ s/addr://) {print $thing . "\n";} |
| 23:43:34 | neybar | } |
| 23:44:26 | han_solo | thanks for the ideas guys. |
| 23:45:05 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 23:45:07 | neybar | np |
| 23:45:08 | CosmicPenguin | wishes he knew sed to one up neybar |
| 23:45:17 | neybar | lol |
| 23:46:30 | han_solo | yeah, I'm sure sed is the One True Way, but I don't know it and probably never will. |
| 23:48:30 | neybar | I keep looking at it and thinking, why not just use perl... besides I can only fit one or two languages in my head at a time. Kinda like a queue, push one language on another falls off. |
| 23:49:03 | han_solo | right :) |
| 23:49:22 | levi | han: If you know vi well, you already know most of sed. |
| 23:49:28 | levi | Erp. Missed. |
| 23:57:06 | CosmicPenguin | ifconfig eth0 | grep inet | cut -d: -f2 | cut -d\ -f1 |
| 23:57:31 | neybar | nice |
| 23:58:02 | neybar | i don't know what most of that means though... :-) |
| 23:58:30 | neybar | man cut... |