| 00:52:32 | BZFlag | http://rikers.org/tmp/mlterm-vim.png |
| 00:52:41 | BZFlag | http://rikers.org/tmp/utf8.html |
| 01:07:55 | han_solo | yay, I have the midi keyboard and cable to hook it up to my soundcard |
| 01:08:58 | BZFlag | woohoo. /me is IRCing in utf8 |
| 01:09:16 | BZFlag | ibot x en kr this is very cool. |
| 01:09:16 | | BZFlag: 이것은 아주 차갑다. |
| 01:09:23 | BZFlag | ibot x en jp this is very cool. |
| 01:09:24 | | BZFlag: これは非常に涼しい。 |
| 01:11:10 | han_solo | ibot x en kr hello world |
| 01:11:10 | | han_solo: 여보세요 세계 |
| 01:13:23 | BZFlag | it looks so cool. ;-) |
| 01:14:57 | BZFlag | http://rikers.org/tmp/cool.png |
| 01:16:02 | han_solo | what did you have to do? |
| 01:16:39 | han_solo | i.e. which font? |
| 01:16:40 | BZFlag | gen a utf8 locale, apt-get install xfonts-efont-unicode, pick biwidth as a font in xchat. |
| 01:21:32 | han_solo | don't see it. do I have to restart xchat/ |
| 01:25:46 | BZFlag | ah, perhaps. try "xset fp rehash" first and see if that does it. |
| 01:29:12 | BZFlag | luck? |
| 01:31:32 | han_solo | no. i'll have to try restarting xchat |
| 01:37:09 | han_solo | ibot x es kr buenos dias |
| 01:37:10 | | han_solo: * What browser you were using. |
| 01:37:29 | han_solo | ibot x en kr hello world |
| 01:37:30 | | han_solo: 여보세요 세계 |
| 01:37:37 | han_solo | thar she blows |
| 01:37:54 | han_solo | although I'm not so sure what the deal is with what browser you were using |
| 02:08:41 | han_solo | how can I tell what process is using a device? |
| 02:12:59 | BZFlag | huh? what browser? |
| 02:13:10 | BZFlag | fuser /dev/dsp <- like that? |
| 02:13:53 | BZFlag | oh, the browser message from ibot. that's what happens if babelfish is confused. |
| 02:14:06 | han_solo | yeah, like that. but it didn't tell me much :( |
| 02:14:08 | BZFlag | ibot x es en buenos dias |
| 02:14:09 | | BZFlag: good day |
| 02:14:23 | BZFlag | ibot x en kr good day |
| 02:14:23 | | BZFlag: 좋은 날 |
| 02:15:03 | BZFlag | notes that root ircs as root. eek. |
| 02:15:24 | root | dumb, dumb, dumb... |
| 02:15:30 | root | oops... |
| 02:15:58 | han_solo | something has my /dev/dsp and I can't figure out what or how to get it back |
| 02:16:07 | BZFlag | gui? |
| 02:16:35 | han_solo | gui? WindowMaker. no programs (incl. xmms) that use sound open |
| 02:16:51 | BZFlag | hmm. cat /dev/sndstat ? |
| 02:17:23 | BZFlag | hmm. can't cat sndstat here. |
| 02:17:35 | BZFlag | lsmod? |
| 02:18:24 | BZFlag | maestro 25640 1 <- here. I have wmmixer running |
| 02:19:22 | han_solo | snd-cmipci 14284 2 |
| 02:19:24 | han_solo | snd-pcm 52832 1 [snd-pcm-oss snd-dummy snd-cmipci] |
| 02:19:29 | han_solo | but how do I know what? |
| 02:20:11 | BZFlag | hmm. cmipci has a 2 next to it. that should indicate 2 things using audio, or one thing using both the mixer and dsp etc. |
| 02:20:33 | BZFlag | lsof | grep /dev/mixer |
| 02:22:02 | han_solo | hi brailsmt |
| 02:22:11 | brailsmt | ok, that was the dumbest thing i have done in a long time... |
| 02:22:14 | brailsmt | hi han_solo |
| 02:22:45 | han_solo | was that you as root? :) |
| 02:23:00 | brailsmt | yes... |
| 02:23:11 | brailsmt | slinks to the corner... |
| 02:23:42 | brailsmt | i didn't even realize it until after BZFlag said something... |
| 02:23:51 | brailsmt | thx |
| 02:24:23 | brailsmt | I listened to Kevin Mitnick last night on Coast to Coast AM... it was interesting... |
| 02:25:59 | han_solo | lsof didn't help, but that's a good one to know |
| 02:26:42 | brailsmt | han_solo: I found a new windowmanager, after 2+ years with windowmaker... |
| 02:26:57 | han_solo | what has stolen your heart, brailsmt? |
| 02:27:03 | brailsmt | waimea |
| 02:27:07 | han_solo | why? |
| 02:27:12 | BZFlag | han_solo: try the other names ie lsof | grep /dev/dsp etc. |
| 02:27:24 | brailsmt | it looks nicer, and it is more customizable |
| 02:27:36 | BZFlag | maimea? |
| 02:27:44 | brailsmt | ie, I have hjkl for movement between desktops |
| 02:27:51 | BZFlag | er waimea? |
| 02:27:55 | han_solo | BZFlag: did that - even paged through the output of lsof unfiltered, didn't see anything |
| 02:27:56 | brailsmt | BZFlag: no waimea |
| 02:28:01 | brailsmt | www.waimea.org |
| 02:28:36 | brailsmt | apparently my brain's lag meter is off the charts today... :) |
| 02:30:34 | brailsmt | actually I think i just spent all my brains energy on my graphics test today... :) |
| 02:32:20 | BZFlag | ibot x en jp brailsmt should play with i18n stuff then and see if that wakes his brain up. |
| 02:32:21 | | BZFlag: brailsmt はi18n の原料とかどうかその航跡彼の頭脳そして遊び , 見るべきである。 |
| 02:34:02 | brailsmt | lol... my kids are searching the toy ads and pointing out what they want to get... of course, they haven't missed a single toy in the ad yet... :) |
| 02:34:39 | han_solo | :) |
| 02:34:40 | han_solo | I'm inclined to try waimea, but I'm lazy and there's no debian package yet |
| 02:34:55 | brailsmt | install gentoo :) |
| 02:35:36 | brailsmt | gentoo has two waimea pkgs :) |
| 03:17:16 | brailsmt | i should post a screenshot of waimea on the uug site... |
| 03:18:55 | han_solo | tell me why I should get it and compile it by hand. here's what I _need_ in a window manager: right-click menu, quick-launch for frequently-used apps, dock or slot, and it has to remember properties for window classe |
| 03:18:59 | han_solo | s |
| 03:22:18 | brailsmt | ok, i am really new to it... but this is why *I* like it better than windowmaker... |
| 03:23:27 | brailsmt | transparency all over the place, there is absolutely nothing on the desktop unless I put it there, wmaker dockapps are supported, it is far and away more configurable than windowmaker |
| 03:24:58 | brailsmt | there are docks (any number of docks, not just one), there is no wmaker clip (i never used it anyway), you can have the menu pop with whatever you want... |
| 03:25:56 | brailsmt | standard is right-click... I changed it to f12, menu traversal for me is hjkl, desktop traversal is cntl-alt-[hjkl] |
| 03:26:32 | brailsmt | the desktops are arranged in a 2D plane, so I can go up, down, left or right from a given desktop |
| 03:26:40 | han_solo | that's nice |
| 03:26:40 | brailsmt | wmaker is linear |
| 03:27:19 | brailsmt | i tend to use terminal apps and apps for which I do not need a mouse, so I want something that is configurable to be mouseless... |
| 03:28:11 | brailsmt | in fact my menu has 5 things... "Eterm, gvim, mozilla, restart, exit" everything else I launch from the cmd line |
| 03:28:34 | brailsmt | anyway, those are my reasons... |
| 03:28:49 | brailsmt | your usage is different I am sure, so you may or may not like waimea |
| 03:28:58 | brailsmt | but it is *very* configurable |
| 03:29:24 | han_solo | well, I like most of what you said, but I do use the clip |
| 03:29:28 | brailsmt | though there isn't a config gui like for other desktops, at least not yet |
| 03:29:47 | han_solo | but is the documentation on options good? |
| 03:29:54 | brailsmt | man waimea |
| 03:29:56 | brailsmt | :) |
| 03:30:04 | brailsmt | yes |
| 03:31:12 | brailsmt | i started to use it because i like the transparent titlebars, i got hooked on he rest of the stuff that I mentioned... |
| 03:32:40 | brailsmt | anyway, back to debugging... |
| 04:13:57 | han_solo | will it let me resize by holding meta-rightmouse and dragging? (anywhere in the window) |
| 04:16:09 | brailsmt_ | lemme check... |
| 04:16:09 | brailsmt_ | yes |
| 04:16:09 | brailsmt_ | :) |
| 04:16:09 | brailsmt_ | at least it does by default... |
| 04:28:07 | brailsmt | I killed X :| |
| 04:30:56 | brailsmt | i scaled my image too much, and it must ahve been too much... |
| 14:44:56 | cosmic_angry | is back (gone 15:37:58) |
| 15:14:29 | Mecworks | Morning everyone. |
| 15:16:30 | levi | Good morning. |
| 15:21:48 | han_solo | trig anyone? If I have degree, near, and would like far what do I do. (my trig is horrible. I need to make a quickref card. anyone know how to do that in tex?) |
| 15:23:04 | levi | near? far? I don't remember those terms from trig. |
| 15:24:10 | han_solo | er, opposite and adjacent |
| 15:25:14 | levi | SOH CAH TOA |
| 15:25:36 | levi | S = O/H, etc. |
| 15:25:50 | han_solo | tatoos SOH CAH TOA on his toe-ah |
| 15:26:33 | levi | I thank whatever teacher taught me than mnemonic. It's very handy. |
| 17:03:47 | Jayce^ | wb neybar.. |
| 17:47:12 | Mecworks | Hey, anyone know of a place like Graywhale CD Exchange but in Utah Valley? |
| 17:47:53 | Jayce^ | isn't there one down there? |
| 17:48:03 | Jayce^ | thought there was one down by the food4less.. |
| 17:48:10 | Mecworks | nope - not that I can find. All SL valley. |
| 17:48:14 | Mecworks | hm |
| 17:48:36 | Jayce^ | when I lived down in that area, there was one.. no idea if it's still there.. |
| 17:48:59 | Mecworks | Their web site doesn't list one...http://www.graywhalecdexchange.com/locations.htm |
| 17:49:11 | Jayce^ | there was also something on the SE side of the Y... different store.. dont' remember the name.. |
| 17:49:19 | Jayce^ | well, I'd guess it's not there then :) |
| 17:49:26 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 17:49:39 | Mecworks | their web page could just be out of date. |
| 17:50:01 | Jayce^ | nah, I haven't lived down there for a few years.. |
| 17:50:22 | Mecworks | I just started...(about a year ago) |
| 20:24:21 | Jayce^ | http://www.scitoys.com/ check out the gauss rifle example!!!! kewl |
| 21:09:25 | neybar | that gauss rifle is pretty cool |
| 21:22:02 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 21:56:07 | Bonez39 | Hello Han |
| 22:01:06 | CosmicPenguin | turns up Bethoveen's Fifth and almost blows out a speaker |
| 22:08:17 | levi | Clearly you need a better sound system. |
| 22:11:27 | han_solo | or at least better speakers |
| 22:11:27 | han_solo | hi Bonez39 |
| 22:12:46 | levi | Well, pushing an amp past its limits can blow speakers too, even if they could take louder signals with clean power. |
| 22:13:38 | CosmicPenguin | Hehe.... they are very cheap speakers for my PC |
| 22:16:36 | levi | I spent $99 on my PC speakers a year or two ago, and they sound wonderful. |
| 22:16:46 | Bonez39 | what brand speakers are they? |
| 22:17:04 | CosmicPenguin | JUSTer |
| 22:17:12 | CosmicPenguin | hehe.... |
| 22:17:34 | Bonez39 | really....I had a cheap pair of those...tossed and got a nice set of Eastern..which sound great.. |
| 22:17:47 | CosmicPenguin | We're talking both old and cheap... a bad combination. But since its my work computer, I don't see any reason to spend any cash |
| 22:19:27 | CosmicPenguin | I have a nice Cyber Acustics system (with an amp) at home which I like alot |
| 22:20:16 | CosmicPenguin | s/amp/bass/ |
| 22:26:26 | han_solo | has an onboard sound card that sounds pretty bad |
| 22:26:40 | han_solo | and an ISA ESS1688 that sounds better. |
| 22:32:20 | levi | Mine are Altec Lansing. |
| 22:35:44 | CosmicPenguin | My onboard doesn't sould half bad... I can't remember the AC97 chip right off the bat, but I do know that OSS doesn't support it |
| 22:36:56 | CosmicPenguin | But then again, if I really cared, I would get one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/electronics/audio/5756/ |
| 22:44:49 | CosmicPenguin | Someday I will have enough cash and motivation to build an media server for my home system, and that will be a major part of it |
| 23:05:41 | han_solo | gives waimea a whirl |
| 23:16:27 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
