| 01:11:33 | han_solo | curses, foiled again |
| 01:32:52 | han_solo | begins yet another kernel compile |
| 02:11:34 | BZFlag | han_solo: it nice in some ways and annoying in others. |
| 02:12:01 | BZFlag | normally you need a devfsd to keep permissions right etc. |
| 02:12:32 | han_solo | yeah, but one advantage I could see was that it could be much more sane about permissions on devices than the current setup |
| 02:12:41 | BZFlag | kernel is larger, filesystem smaller. but after you add devfsd and the donfig stuff for that it's a wash. |
| 02:12:43 | han_solo | esp. in a lab environment |
| 02:13:04 | BZFlag | "much more sane" ? explain. |
| 02:13:18 | han_solo | i.e. if x dies user joeschmoe doesn't own everything in /dev (e.g. /dev/dsp) |
| 02:14:09 | BZFlag | ah. well on debian, /dev/dsp is group audio and you add whoever you want to that. |
| 02:14:22 | BZFlag | that is what I call "much more sane" ;-) |
| 02:14:44 | han_solo | yeah, me too :) I was thinking about for those distros that can't be sane on their own. ;-) unrelated: my first two 2.5.41 kernels have flopped. something made my network stop working |
| 02:15:08 | BZFlag | the current /dev/ida/* etc it quite a mess though. having those nodes auto created is nice. |
| 02:15:26 | han_solo | looks like 2.5.42 is out, so I'm going to try that, but I'm also going to try getting alsa into a 2.4 kernel |
| 02:15:37 | han_solo | anybody done that? esp. if you've done it on debian |
| 02:15:58 | BZFlag | no alsa here. gotta get back to the kids. back late. |
| 02:16:01 | BZFlag | er later. |
| 02:16:11 | han_solo | cya |
| 05:34:47 | BZFlag | mmm sleep |
| 23:28:49 | han_solo | al fin. :) I have alsa |