| 05:00:01 | LrnChndlr | in all of my Linux web browsers some fonts are normal and some are REALLY BIG... anybody have any ideas what I can do about this? |
| 13:24:46 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 15:22:52) |
| 13:36:47 | CosmicPenguin | is away: meeting |
| 13:58:20 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 00:21:33) |
| 14:06:17 | levi | is back (gone 14:18:39) |
| 16:11:19 | han_solo | hate it when I have to fake out byu's dhcp |
| 16:13:59 | levi | But it gives you a chance to use your 'leet skillz. |
| 16:15:50 | han_solo | :) apparently their dhcp server is down |
| 16:16:03 | han_solo | so I figured out what I _should_ get and gave it to myself |
| 17:07:20 | HarleyPig | woops. |
| 17:07:29 | HarleyPig | Did anyone answer that whilst I was gone? |
| 17:08:14 | CosmicPenguin | eh? |
| 17:08:15 | HarleyPig | guess not |
| 17:08:39 | HarleyPig | I asked if anyone had experience setting up cups and xchat segfaulted. |
| 17:09:15 | HarleyPig | Anyway, I'm having problems getting cups to print a test page to a networked printer. |
| 17:10:48 | HarleyPig | su - |
| 17:11:00 | HarleyPig | woops ... good thing I wasn't typing too fast! |
| 17:15:05 | levi | Hmm. |
| 17:15:31 | levi | I've set up cups before, but it was just a matter of apt-getting packages and using the web interface. |
| 17:38:00 | HarleyPig | I've done that part ... I just can't figure out which protocol or uri to use. |
| 17:38:39 | levi | To use to connect to the web interface, or to connect to the printer? |
| 17:38:49 | HarleyPig | To connect to the printer. |
| 17:39:02 | HarleyPig | I can telnet in and print garbage ... |
| 17:39:13 | HarleyPig | but I can't even get garbage with a test page. |
| 17:39:49 | levi | What sort of printer and/or network adapter? |
| 17:40:45 | HarleyPig | It's a HP LJ 4500, connected directly to the network. |
| 17:41:12 | HarleyPig | nmap shows it supports ipp, jetdirect, http, and ftp. |
| 17:42:51 | levi | 'AppSocket' talks to JetDirect, apparently. |
| 17:44:14 | HarleyPig | yeah, but I've tried all the protocols and, I think, all the ports. |
| 17:46:37 | levi | Hrm. |
| 17:46:41 | levi | I dunno. |
| 17:48:40 | levi | Device URI: socket://192.168.2.206:9100/ |
| 17:48:51 | levi | That's how my HP LJ 4M is set up. |
| 17:49:02 | levi | And I'm using PostScript |
| 17:52:11 | HarleyPig | hmmm |
| 17:53:29 | HarleyPig | except for the ip, I have exactly the same. |
| 17:54:02 | HarleyPig | Printer state says "idle, accepting jobs" |
| 17:54:17 | levi | Weird. |
| 17:55:11 | HarleyPig | Yeah. |
| 17:55:28 | HarleyPig | Everyone else can print just fine. But, they're on winblows. |
| 17:57:29 | levi | Does the printer say it supports PS? |
| 18:00:42 | CosmicPenguin | Woo -hoo! I'm the number one commentor on SLLUG... :P |
| 18:00:48 | Jayce^ | heh |
| 18:01:12 | Jayce^ | thinks of adding an rss box for sllug and UUG on Plug |
| 18:12:24 | HarleyPig | levi: Think so, but I don't have ps support enabled. |
| 18:15:22 | HarleyPig | Check out this paragraph from the NYTimes article on the snipings in Maryland: All were adults and white, except for a black man and a Hispanic woman. |
| 18:15:38 | HarleyPig | Sounds like someone went a little overboard on the pc speak. |
| 18:16:59 | HarleyPig | One of the witnesses is named John Mistery. |
| 18:17:05 | HarleyPig | It's not April is it? |
| 18:59:58 | fugalh | the vim book is online under the OPL |
| 19:02:22 | Jayce^ | yup.. |
| 19:05:53 | fugalh | that's great. But I like the paper version. :) |
| 19:06:12 | fugalh | does plug have any sort of budget? |
| 19:06:37 | Jayce^ | nope.. |
| 19:07:20 | Jayce^ | still need a treasurer and to file for a non-profit.. no voulenteers yet.. |
| 19:07:41 | fugalh | didn't think so. i was thinking maybe having some quickreferences printed up for people at the meeting. guess that really wouldn't cost much though. (in the starving student mindset) |
| 19:07:50 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 19:14:00 | fugalh | so I let the microsoft guys at the career fair talk me into leaving a resume today |
| 19:14:39 | HarleyPig | Avoid the dark side, Luke! |
| 19:15:09 | fugalh | I hope I gave them the resume with mildly poisonous ink |
| 19:15:27 | HarleyPig | :D |
| 19:15:48 | fugalh | i think mostly I would enjoy turning them down |
| 19:16:20 | Jayce^ | that would be fun.. |
| 19:16:44 | Jayce^ | tell them, I'll work there if I can use a full Linux desktop, as well as servers... |
| 19:18:24 | fugalh | :) And at no time will I be required to send or receive anything in word format |
| 19:40:01 | Bonez39 | here's a dumb question...how do I find out what my 'server name' is? for my system? |
| 19:40:40 | Jayce^ | you mean the host name? |
| 19:40:46 | Bonez39 | yeah, I guess.. |
| 19:40:50 | Jayce^ | does it show on your command line? |
| 19:40:55 | Bonez39 | am trying to load SWAT on my system.... |
| 19:41:08 | Jayce^ | something like [jayce@axis jayce]$ |
| 19:41:18 | Jayce^ | well, you can name it what you want really |
| 19:41:37 | Bonez39 | here's my command line "[scott@scott scott}$" |
| 19:41:47 | Jayce^ | so you named the machine scott |
| 19:41:51 | Bonez39 | ok...so scott woudl be my server name? |
| 19:41:54 | Bonez39 | yeah... |
| 19:42:01 | Bonez39 | do you work with samba at all? |
| 19:42:02 | Jayce^ | I think with samba you could use a different one thoguh.. |
| 19:42:11 | Jayce^ | not really.. stay away from the stuff |
| 19:42:15 | Bonez39 | I am trying to load up SWAT, the graphical samba tool |
| 19:42:15 | fugalh | ok |
| 19:42:20 | Bonez39 | hi fugalh |
| 19:42:26 | fugalh | morning |
| 19:42:38 | Bonez39 | fugalh, do you use samba or swat? |
| 19:42:53 | fugalh | isn't swat a configuration tool for samba? |
| 19:42:56 | Jayce^ | yeah |
| 19:43:07 | fugalh | i'm not a samba guru, but I usually use the config file |
| 19:43:11 | Bonez39 | yeah, it is fugalh |
| 19:48:33 | fugalh | i am beginning to become annoyed with these network problems |
| 19:48:50 | Jayce^ | oh? |
| 19:49:06 | fugalh | byu must be having a bandwidth or server crisis or something |
| 19:49:07 | Bonez39 | I don't mean to annoy you, fugalh.... |
| 19:49:17 | Bonez39 | oh, you mean byu? |
| 19:49:22 | fugalh | no, not your questions. happy to help there. :) |
| 19:50:55 | Bonez39 | ok |
| 19:53:37 | Bonez39 | so. fugalh, I am trying to determine the name of my server.... |
| 19:54:19 | Bonez39 | for example, to use a GUI tool to work with samba, I have to type a command: htt://server name:901/ and that will open a web to my samba configuration... |
| 19:54:28 | Bonez39 | but I don't know the name to put in 'server name' |
| 19:56:20 | fugalh | probably localhos |
| 19:56:25 | fugalh | er, localhost |
| 19:56:43 | Bonez39 | localhost? |
| 19:58:15 | fugalh | http://localhost:901/ |
| 19:58:33 | fugalh | if you're working on the machine where samba runs. if not, put the server name or the ip address |
| 19:58:50 | fugalh | i.e http://192.168.1.10:901/ if that's your samba server |
| 19:59:48 | Bonez39 | ok ok..now i FEEL Really dumb.. |
| 20:00:01 | Bonez39 | http://localhost:901/ launched it...... |
| 20:00:13 | Bonez39 | thanks fugalh |
| 20:00:24 | Jayce^ | that's what linux is all about.. it's out to humble the best of us.. |
| 20:00:33 | fugalh | you were probably thinking name as in the netbios name or seomthing. give yourself five for being smarter than the docs. ;-) |
| 20:00:43 | Jayce^ | whereas windows tries to make the MCSE people feel smart.. |
| 20:01:04 | Bonez39 | yeah.......I was looking for something complicated.. |
| 20:01:22 | Jayce^ | realizes he just made something finally make sense to himself.. |
| 20:01:37 | Jayce^ | microsoft is part of scientology :) |
| 20:04:45 | han_solo | ahhh. back in linux |
| 20:04:58 | Jayce^ | what were you doing out of it? |
| 20:05:18 | han_solo | suffering |
| 20:05:44 | Jayce^ | :) |
| 20:05:52 | han_solo | had to fill out some stuff on a web site that doesn't even try to work in mozilla |
| 20:06:04 | Jayce^ | I hate that.. |
| 20:06:10 | Jayce^ | vmware has it's uses.. |
| 20:07:26 | han_solo | hmm. I just pulled it up to show the error message, and it worked. |
| 20:07:46 | Jayce^ | hey neybar.. |
| 20:07:46 | han_solo | maybe the version of mozilla they have here (cs labs) is different than what I have at home |
| 20:07:59 | Jayce^ | could be.. what version you running? |
| 20:08:11 | han_solo | pretty sure 1.0 |
| 20:08:20 | neybar | sup |
| 20:08:24 | han_solo | they're running 1.0.1 |
| 20:08:26 | Jayce^ | not 1.1? how sad :) |
| 20:08:38 | han_solo | well, if it's in debian testing I am. ;-) |
| 20:08:46 | Jayce^ | heh.. |
| 20:12:49 | han_solo | Bonez39: fyi /me is fugalh too |
| 20:13:51 | Jayce^ | whaaa.. your kidding?!?! and all this time I've been telling you bad things about fugalh... crap.. |
| 20:13:58 | han_solo | lol |
| 20:14:31 | han_solo | tells fugalh bad things about Jayce^ |
| 20:14:41 | Jayce^ | well, those are probably all true... |
| 20:18:03 | han_solo | whispers * Jayce^ likes emacs and windows * |
| 20:18:16 | Jayce^ | ok, so maybe they are really far off base... |
| 20:18:21 | han_solo | :D |
| 20:26:38 | han_solo | k |
| 20:27:35 | BZFlag | hmm. http://SLLUG.org/ is still far from valid html and still looks lousy in ns |
| 20:27:52 | BZFlag | who's the webmaster? |
| 20:29:11 | BZFlag | whacks Jayce^, course http://plug.org/ still has many errors too. http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://PLUG.org/ |
| 20:29:36 | Jayce^ | yeah yeah.. |
| 20:29:39 | Mecworks | bbeattie, but I can take a look at it also. However, I'll be away for a couple days starting in jut s few minutes. |
| 20:29:47 | Jayce^ | I got more things to do first :) |
| 20:30:14 | Jayce^ | it's almost 3.2 compliant last I saw.. |
| 20:30:47 | Mecworks | Arnt' the sllug.org errors pretty much limited to /> on some tags? |
| 20:33:18 | BZFlag | Mecworks: there are a lot of those, but there are others as well. |
| 20:33:27 | BZFlag | page sure looks bad here. |
| 20:33:30 | Mecworks | It looks like some other "errors" are a result of cascading /> errors. |
| 20:33:48 | levi | NS 4 makes pages look crappy sometimes even when they're correct. |
| 20:33:55 | Mecworks | ie. it says there is not a starting <head> tag but there is. |
| 20:34:09 | BZFlag | levi: that's no excuse for having crappy pages. |
| 20:34:11 | Mecworks | I think it's a result of the /> errors. |
| 20:34:31 | BZFlag | Mecworks: perhaps. any reason they are not getting fixed? |
| 20:34:40 | Mecworks | I'll take a loog when I get some time. |
| 20:34:46 | Mecworks | time |
| 20:34:58 | levi | BZFlag: I don't disagree, I'm just saying fixing the errors might not make it look better for you. |
| 20:35:05 | Mecworks | Alos, it's sort of in bbeattie's court |
| 20:35:09 | BZFlag | thinks any web author work his/her salt should not release pages till they are validated. |
| 20:35:19 | Mecworks | 8^) |
| 20:35:29 | BZFlag | s/work/worth/ |
| 20:35:30 | HarleyPig | thinks NS4 should not be supported. |
| 20:35:32 | HarleyPig | ducks. |
| 20:36:01 | Mecworks | I agree too. I also think that an outfit like PHPNuke should make sure it's output is valid |
| 20:36:32 | Mecworks | as it's the root of all of it's user's invalid websites |
| 20:36:33 | BZFlag | things links/lynx/viewml should be supported. |
| 20:36:33 | BZFlag | er thinks |
| 20:36:34 | HarleyPig | True ... but ns4 doesn't handle any of that either. |
| 20:36:39 | BZFlag | HarleyPig: huh? handle any of what? |
| 20:37:17 | HarleyPig | Nevermind ... I'm not thinking straight (hush Jayce^) ... didn't think it through when I typed it. |
| 20:38:06 | BZFlag | has been hacking on python wiki code to make more of it pass. http://eLinux.org/wiki/ |
| 20:38:10 | HarleyPig | Anyone hapen to have a copy of MS W2K Resource Kit Supplemement dns*.pl sample scripts available? |
| 20:40:51 | HarleyPig | well, gotta go ... have fun. |
| 20:45:48 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 20:46:38 | Jayce^ | sometime, when Harley or I have time, we'll finish the design.. but wer're both really bad at design.. HTML I know well, but my designs suck.. |
| 20:49:19 | Jayce^ | thinks BZFlag is a wiki nut :) |
| 20:50:50 | BZFlag | Jayce^: that'e WikiNut |
| 20:51:33 | Jayce^ | ahh |