| 00:01:57 | bbeattie | hello |
| 00:02:29 | Xanic[lappy] | How's it going? |
| 00:05:39 | bbeattie | okey, sllug's new website is almost ready. |
| 00:06:30 | Xanic[lappy] | Cool. |
| 00:06:35 | Xanic[lappy] | I downloaded blender.. |
| 00:06:39 | Xanic[lappy] | Tried to make it work. |
| 00:07:20 | Xanic[lappy] | Didn't go nearly as well as I might have hoped. Any advice on where to find a quickstart guide? ;) |
| 00:09:20 | bbeattie | heh, buy the book? :-) There's some websites out there with tutorials, that's the best way. |
| 00:09:58 | Xanic[lappy] | is the book a quickstart kind of book, or just a reference book? |
| 00:10:04 | Xanic[lappy] | Like, I know nothing about 3d modeling. |
| 00:10:31 | Xanic[lappy] | I'm not looking for a freebie, I just don't want to buy a book that won't help me much as a beginner. :) |
| 00:10:41 | bbeattie | both, |
| 00:10:51 | Xanic[lappy] | Cool. |
| 00:11:45 | bbeattie | the money income from blender was charging $50 for the book and giving the software away for free. The idea is those who really want to use it will need the book to figure everything out and learn how to use it - and to master it. Those who wanted to play around, could for free |
| 00:12:47 | Xanic[lappy] | I need to finish my sysadmin book first, though. Then perl. Then php. Then blender. |
| 00:13:20 | Bradipo | Xanic[lappy]: there are a lot of blender tutorials online. |
| 00:13:25 | Bradipo | Blender is a very nice program. |
| 00:13:50 | Xanic[lappy] | Hey brandon, do you know if jim from the convention gets on here? |
| 00:13:56 | Xanic[lappy] | or, his email address? |
| 00:14:48 | bbeattie | nope, havn't seen him here yet, sovereign.org is his domain, but I know he is very far behind on e-mail. |
| 00:15:35 | Xanic[lappy] | Hmm.. |
| 00:17:39 | Xanic[lappy] | jfree@.. |
| 00:17:55 | Xanic[lappy] | I want to know what kind of pcmcia controller he had in his machine.. |
| 00:19:22 | Bradipo | ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/blender/pub/documentation/ |
| 00:19:29 | Bradipo | That should have some documentation you can use for blender. |
| 00:19:56 | Xanic[lappy] | Yeah, i'll just buy the book. |
| 00:20:00 | Bradipo | Cool. |
| 00:20:11 | Bradipo | I bought the book about 2 years ago. |
| 00:20:14 | Xanic[lappy] | I just expected it to be mostly just a reference manual, like a lot of product manuals are. |
| 00:20:28 | Bradipo | It's a pretty decent manual. |
| 00:30:38 | bbeattie | IC's are too difficult to learn without the book. |
| 18:55:22 | bbeattie | BZFlag: did you get the cable? |
| 18:55:53 | bbeattie | BZFlag: I'm sure you did, what I should ask is that your gender-bender? |
| 19:03:10 | BZFlag | bbeattie: not in the office yet. so have not seen the cable. the gender bender was mine, yes. |
| 19:11:15 | bbeattie | BZFlag: Oh, I thought you were going to be in work, I drove to jims last night and dropped it off with him. |
| 19:42:03 | BZFlag | I'me heded in now to pick it up. thanx! |
| 19:47:47 | orbit | Anyone got a fast mirror for the RH8 Iso? |
| 20:03:04 | bbeattie | orbit: I don't, sorry. |
| 20:03:07 | bbeattie | Mecworks: are you around? |
| 20:55:11 | Mecworks | bbeattie: just got in. What's up? |
| 20:55:55 | Mecworks | been toolin' around on my recumbent... |
| 21:07:47 | Bradipo | Hey, what's the name of the project do enter text into a digital database? |
| 21:08:25 | Mecworks | hm? |
| 21:09:19 | Bradipo | http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?ID=37903 |
| 21:09:27 | Bradipo | Give you a head start to be the first to the cache. |
| 21:09:34 | Bradipo | But you might not want anything in it. :-) |
| 21:10:13 | Bradipo | Gutenburg. |
| 21:10:20 | Bradipo | Gutenberg rather. |
| 21:10:22 | Bradipo | I found it. |
| 21:12:15 | han_solo | has a project gutenberg cd at home |
| 21:12:33 | han_solo | but it didn't have don quixote in spanish, which is the only thing I've tried to get yet |
| 21:12:46 | han_solo | I'd use it more but my palm only has 2megs of memory |
| 21:12:53 | Mecworks | Cool cache. I have been downloading a few gutenburg texts. I wish there a wa _good_ reader for Linux. |
| 21:13:19 | Bradipo | What's wrong with vi? |
| 21:13:20 | Bradipo | ;-) |
| 21:13:43 | han_solo | or less :) |
| 21:14:03 | han_solo | what constitutes a 'good reader'? |
| 21:14:12 | Mecworks | yea - right... 8^) |
| 21:15:24 | Bradipo | Just get the text/plain versions and less/vi them. |
| 21:16:59 | Mecworks | Well, I've been using gutenbrowser and it's OK but it keeps on messing up text in the two widows. They are supposed to be sequential - the first page's text continues onto the next page. It isn't always the case. |
| 21:17:20 | han_solo | less never messes that up |
| 21:17:36 | Mecworks | I would like an app that does that but also has good support for formating the text, bookmarks, etc. |
| 21:17:48 | Bradipo | Hmm... |
| 21:18:21 | han_solo | plucker on a palm :) |
| 21:18:44 | Mecworks | yea, - I have that same problem with my palm - only 2 megs. |
| 21:19:21 | Mecworks | Speaking of palm. I've been looking for zork (and other zcode) games for the palm. |
| 21:19:44 | han_solo | Mecworks: get back with me. I need to go but I've got just what you want, guarantee. |
| 21:19:52 | han_solo | (used car salesman accent) |
| 21:21:41 | levi_ | Mecworks: I don't know about Zork, but there are a lot of text adventure games released for free on the web. There's some sort of contest for them, and some of them are pretty good. |
| 21:22:48 | Mecworks | yea, I think I found a page with a contest for games like this. maybe it's the same page. I need to go back and find it. |
| 21:25:25 | bbeattie | Mecworks: I forgot. hmm |
| 21:43:52 | Mecworks | Hm. I'm wondering why my .forward is not being looked at on sllug.org... |
| 21:45:49 | bbeattie | not sure |
| 21:46:33 | Mecworks | it's 664. It should be seen my sendmail. |
| 21:46:42 | Mecworks | bbeattie: do you use a .forward on sllug.org? |
| 21:47:41 | han_solo | Mecworks: you there? |
| 21:47:45 | Mecworks | yea |
| 21:48:29 | han_solo | there's more than one, but the one I've tried (which has done me just fine) is pilot-frotz |
| 21:48:40 | han_solo | I can put it on the web if google doesn't help |
| 21:48:53 | han_solo | as for games, you can find zork for free |
| 21:49:10 | Mecworks | I think I have it...I was downloading a lot yesterday but havn't looked at everything in detail yet. Just a sec... |
| 21:49:12 | han_solo | and you can find all the other infocom games online for beer free |
| 21:49:44 | Mecworks | I have PalmPilotFrotz.zip _ same thing? |
| 21:49:50 | han_solo | and there's lots of genuinely free games from the community (written in inform. That's fun to do if you have the inkling) |
| 21:49:55 | han_solo | probably |
| 21:50:06 | han_solo | Aug4.pdb Pilot-Frotz.txt z2pdb Z2PDB.exe |
| 21:50:08 | han_solo | Pilot-Frotz.prc Terpetude.pdb Z2PDB.c Z2PDB.linux |
| 21:50:11 | han_solo | is the contents |
| 21:50:38 | Mecworks | Archive: PalmPilotFrotz.zip |
| 21:50:39 | Mecworks | inflating: Z2PDB.exe |
| 21:50:39 | Mecworks | inflating: Terpetude.pdb |
| 21:50:39 | Mecworks | inflating: Pilot-Frotz.txt |
| 21:50:39 | Mecworks | inflating: Z2PDB.linux |
| 21:50:39 | Mecworks | inflating: Z2PDB.c |
| 21:50:41 | Mecworks | inflating: Pilot-Frotz.prc |
| 21:50:47 | han_solo | that's the one |
| 21:50:47 | Mecworks | yup, looks the same |
| 21:50:57 | Mecworks | cool! |
| 21:51:25 | han_solo | just install the prc and then run z2pdb on zcode files (you may have to recompile it, I did) |
| 21:51:40 | han_solo | they may be named .z5 or .z or .dat or whatever |
| 21:51:54 | han_solo | then of course put the generated pdb on your palm |
| 21:52:21 | Mecworks | cool. I imagine more instructions are in the txt file in the zip archive. |
| 21:52:32 | han_solo | i imagine |
| 21:52:39 | han_solo | at least enough for me to figure it out once. :) |
| 21:52:48 | Mecworks | yea, it looks that way. |
| 21:53:04 | han_solo | wrote a short game last fall |
| 21:53:24 | han_solo | http://hans.fugal.net/bluesky/ |
| 21:57:28 | han_solo | (no linux links there because it was for a professor who uses windows) |
| 21:57:36 | Mecworks | cool |
| 23:09:12 | Bonez39 | greetings....UTahns |
| 23:12:01 | | thx |
| 23:12:01 | han_solo | ibot, wb |
| 23:12:25 | han_solo | hi Bonez39 |
| 23:16:56 | taran | says something under his breath about byu's connection |
| 23:27:50 | Bonez39 | hi han |
| 23:37:01 | Bonez39 | han...do you use mysql? |
| 23:37:29 | Bonez39 | is away: at dinner, but hope to return soon |
| 23:39:09 | han_sol | i do |
| 23:39:09 | han_sol | not as much lately as postgres, but I still know mysql better |
| 23:39:10 | han_sol | (sorry for the net lag) |
| 23:39:16 | han_sol | I hope so too. hate to have you die choking |
| 23:40:01 | Bonez39 | oh, no worry on the lag...I am just at the beginning of learning how install and then to use MySQL....it's daunting but not overwhelming.... |
| 23:40:26 | Bonez39 | could I email you about my learning this? my email is drjones@vii.com but I'll watch for you here as well... |
| 23:40:39 | Bonez39 | gotta run now.....back later...;) |
| 23:40:50 | Bonez39 | is away: to dinner, back soon |
| 23:56:07 | han_sol | sure, but you'll get more milage out of Jayce^ (although I do have the New Riders MySQL book here) |
| 23:56:11 | han_sol | fugalh@byu.edu |