| 03:54:05 | Jayce^ | so han_solo, you figured out any specific things you want to cover? |
| 03:54:26 | han_solo | not yet |
| 03:55:36 | Jayce^ | I'm hoping to have some newbies there, so might want to cover some basics (or be ready too)... I was thinking maybe we could find/put together some handout with the quick codes/cheat sheet type thing.. |
| 03:56:17 | han_solo | That's a good idea. I once found a very useful quickref which really took the edge off and made me more productive. I'll dig around for it |
| 03:57:12 | Jayce^ | yeah, I used to have one too, gotta find it.. |
| 03:57:19 | han_solo | I think I'll take the general structure of doing an intro where I show the basics and where to get help, then for the second half tackle some real fun stuff for us experts |
| 03:57:22 | Jayce^ | cover navigation, copy/paste type stuff.. |
| 03:57:40 | han_solo | get the newbies started, then get their appetites whetted too as we start doing the amazing cool stuff |
| 03:57:51 | Jayce^ | yeah.. for me the one I am weak on right now is editing multiple docs through a single instance.. |
| 03:58:07 | Jayce^ | plus I wanna learn the integrated CVS stuff :D just downloaded them, now to learn how.. |
| 04:28:01 | regis | howdy |
| 17:04:41 | CosmicPenguin | is away: mmm... lunch |
| 17:48:45 | regis | who/who |
| 18:09:23 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 01:04:42) |
| 18:30:16 | orbit | msg Jayce^ maybe you already told me this, but it looks like O'Reilly has a Mason book coming out next month. |
| 18:30:32 | orbit | Doh. |
| 18:31:51 | Jayce^ | hehe.. yeah.. |
| 18:31:59 | Jayce^ | I want to review that one ... |
| 18:32:14 | orbit | Me too. |
| 18:32:17 | Jayce^ | man, I gotta write marsee, but I keep putting it off for two reviews that I haven't finished yet.. |
| 18:32:38 | orbit | Yeah, I'm in the same boat. |
| 18:33:12 | Jayce^ | got a message back from new riders.. there are a couple of VIM books in the mail for this next meeting :D |
| 18:33:19 | orbit | Excellent. |
| 18:33:38 | orbit | How many pages are there in that book? |
| 18:33:46 | Jayce^ | I think hans is planning on blowing all our minds away with his presentation.. |
| 18:34:01 | Jayce^ | 572 w/ index |
| 18:34:10 | orbit | kinda thick. |
| 18:34:17 | orbit | What's the presentation on? |
| 18:34:21 | Jayce^ | it's *THE* VIM book |
| 18:34:25 | Jayce^ | VIM of course.. :D |
| 18:34:38 | orbit | Ah. Nice. |
| 18:34:40 | Jayce^ | he's going to cover both basic and advanced topics.. |
| 18:34:52 | Jayce^ | so get the newbies and the heavy users interested .. |
| 18:35:09 | Jayce^ | I want to try and get some fresh blood attending, but yet pull our 'inactives' back.. |
| 18:35:29 | orbit | hehehe. |
| 18:35:53 | orbit | looking at the plug page - wow, Jayce, you've been busy :-) |
| 18:36:36 | Jayce^ | heh... got a lot more to do.. |
| 18:36:59 | Jayce^ | This Manning book, the extending and embedding perl book has me addicted though.. |
| 18:37:10 | orbit | heehee. |
| 18:38:19 | Jayce^ | if you ever really wanted to understand the perlguts pages and such, this does a great job.. |
| 18:44:54 | Jayce^ | hey BZFlag, that company you posted for on sllug.. they looking for an in-house permanent job or a contract? |
| 18:45:54 | BZFlag | in-house permanent. |
| 18:46:13 | BZFlag | though they might "change corporate direction" at any moment. |
| 18:46:36 | BZFlag | used to work for/with that group at WordCruncher. |
| 18:47:42 | Jayce^ | k, cause I know a group that could do it on contract real well if that was the case... otherwise maybe they could use Alan Young (HarleyPig) |
| 18:48:00 | Jayce^ | since his job is liek 4 weeks late on pay right now, and that's at half pay... |
| 18:48:08 | orbit | ouch |
| 18:48:45 | Jayce^ | yeah, and his 6th kid is on the way... has no phone right now.. he's hurting.. |
| 18:49:02 | Jayce^ | RH 8 will be released on monday.. nifty.. |
| 18:49:04 | orbit | cool. |
| 18:52:07 | Jayce^ | whoo.. using Perl + Applescript.. never thought of that.. |
| 18:57:41 | BZFlag | Jayce^: pass the reference on. Folks may call me for my opinion if they can't get me on here. |
| 18:58:31 | Jayce^ | k.. my brother might call them.. Jeremy Hall, at Infogenix. if they are willing to contract it.. otherwise I'll send it to alan, he's not at work today (can you blame him) |
| 18:59:28 | BZFlag | np |
| 19:21:04 | Jayce^ | ok, this is sad.. one of the senior people for ticketmaster/citysearch was just posting on the mod_perl list about how they are trying to get "mod_perl heavyweights" to help out their dev team.. |
| 19:21:31 | Jayce^ | the only thing is, they have the creaters of mod_perl as their dev team.. how to they really expect to get anyone that comes close to their level!!! |
| 20:18:33 | Jayce^ | usbr.gov? |
| 20:18:44 | Gaelmare | check, and? |
| 20:19:38 | Jayce^ | ahhh |
| 20:19:56 | Gaelmare | looks puzzled. |
| 20:21:58 | Gaelmare | pokes Jayce, what? |
| 20:22:23 | Jayce^ | just had to figure out what the acronym meant.. |
| 20:22:55 | Gaelmare | Ahh, sorry, thought you were commenting on the .gov part. Bureau of Reclamation, we do water for the west. |
| 20:28:29 | CosmicPenguin | I can imagine that the .gov extension brings attention |
| 20:31:14 | Gaelmare | I rarely IRC from here, for that reason. I used to IRC from a .gov in 1995, and that REALLY raised eyebrows. |
| 20:33:26 | Gaelmare | what do you do? |
| 20:46:16 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, you were talking to me... :) |
| 20:46:25 | CosmicPenguin | is not on the bright side |
| 20:46:51 | CosmicPenguin | I used to play with cool embedded devices, but now I hack on terminal emulators |
| 20:57:27 | Gaelmare | Gack.. I assume that means you used to work for Lineo, but now.. ?? |
| 21:00:20 | Gaelmare | eh? |
| 21:20:21 | CosmicPenguin | Gaelmare: nope, always just worked for Century Software |
| 22:02:51 | BZFlag | missed him. |
| 22:05:32 | Jayce^ | just barely |
| 22:07:45 | BZFlag | CosmicPenguin: how's business there? |
| 22:10:24 | BZFlag | so anyone go to CTS today? |
| 22:20:54 | Jayce^ | no.. I was going too.. |
| 22:21:03 | Jayce^ | then wound up going to home depot for a few hours.. |
| 22:36:32 | levi_ | A few hours? |