| 00:01:24 | brailsmt | han_solo: what is 470? |
| 00:02:35 | brailsmt | this network is driving me nuts... |
| 00:29:34 | han_solo | 470 is intro to AI |
| 00:29:39 | han_solo | heh. me too :) |
| 00:29:45 | han_solo | what about the network? |
| 03:18:44 | bbeattie | han_solo: do you go to the Y? |
| 03:20:14 | bbeattie | brailsmt: If you have hayes, you should be able to use ruby, but TA's won't help with your few projects, but most people didn't need help. |
| 03:26:02 | han_solo | bbeattie: yeah |
| 03:26:16 | han_solo | I don't have hayes, I didn't realize he even taught 470 |
| 03:26:24 | han_solo | I have a new guy - Seppi |
| 03:26:36 | han_solo | but other semesters I've known Goodrich teaches it |
| 03:28:05 | han_solo | i just discovered that the worldserver works in wine, but rather slow and with a slight workaround |
| 03:33:44 | brailsmt | i can't stand hayes |
| 03:36:18 | han_solo | trots off to bed with a warm fuzzy feeling because ruby made him extremely productive this evening. |
| 03:40:48 | brailsmt | like this semester I rearranged my schedule to *avoid* a class with him... |
| 03:44:24 | brailsmt | hah, ruby will do that |
| 03:44:26 | brailsmt | :) |
| 03:44:34 | brailsmt | thats why I use it |
| 04:09:01 | Jayce^ | so that was a great meeting.. |
| 04:11:08 | bbeattie | han_solo: hayes teaches 428 last I remember, who do you have 470 from? |
| 04:11:20 | bbeattie | Oh, seppi, |
| 04:12:36 | bbeattie | han_solo: the world server is plain bad, it's written in openGL, and bad openGL at that case, the world server runs at max CPU, also, running on different speed systems results in different responses from the "sensors" |
| 04:12:58 | brailsmt | 428 from dr hayes... |
| 04:13:00 | brailsmt | shudders |
| 04:13:12 | brailsmt | he does 431 |
| 04:13:19 | bbeattie | that was my first class when I transfered there. :-) |
| 04:13:37 | brailsmt | from hayes? |
| 04:13:45 | bbeattie | don't take databse from dr Ng either. |
| 04:13:45 | bbeattie | yes |
| 04:14:02 | bbeattie | sa those are my only 2 de-recommendations really. |
| 04:14:06 | brailsmt | has about *ZERO* desire to take the db class at all |
| 04:14:13 | brailsmt | :) |
| 04:15:09 | bbeattie | My favorite teachers are Dr Clement, Dr Sederberg, Dr (The one who has vision problems), and Dr Olsen. |
| 04:15:17 | brailsmt | i recommend any class from Dr. Knutson |
| 04:15:30 | bbeattie | I never had him, what does he teach? |
| 04:15:33 | Jayce^ | wonders why you hosers skipped out tonight :D :D |
| 04:15:41 | brailsmt | he is new as of last year |
| 04:15:48 | bbeattie | is gruaduated |
| 04:16:01 | bbeattie | what was "tonight"? |
| 04:16:08 | Jayce^ | Plug meeting.. |
| 04:16:12 | Jayce^ | MTA wars.. |
| 04:16:16 | bbeattie | MTA? |
| 04:16:35 | | bbeattie: excuse me? |
| 04:16:35 | bbeattie | ibot: acro MTA |
| 04:16:45 | Jayce^ | Mail transport agent.. discussing differences/strenghts between them |
| 04:17:08 | | bbeattie: i'm not following you... |
| 04:17:08 | bbeattie | ibot: acro add MTA Mail Transport Agent |
| 04:17:32 | bbeattie | allwell, so use QMail because Sendmail has many security holes? |
| 04:17:58 | brailsmt | MTA wars are like shell wars, editor wars, rdbms wars, WM wars, or just about anything else in OSS-dom |
| 04:18:00 | brailsmt | :) |
| 04:18:19 | Jayce^ | qmail was one of the ones discussed.. Rob oldham did a good job showing it off. |
| 04:19:18 | brailsmt | uses qmail |
| 04:19:25 | brailsmt | i used to use sendmail |
| 04:19:35 | Jayce^ | everybody *used* to use sendmail |
| 04:20:24 | bbeattie | brailsmt: what CS courses are you taking this semester? |
| 04:23:07 | fozz | still uses Sendmail |
| 04:23:26 | fozz | (for no good reason other than I know it well) |
| 04:23:26 | Jayce^ | hey fozz... you missed out.. |
| 04:23:37 | Jayce^ | lotsa sendmail bashing :D |
| 04:23:40 | fozz | Yeah- I got a lot of work done, tho. And I bought socks! |
| 04:24:02 | brailsmt | is taking 345, 428, and 455 |
| 04:24:02 | Jayce^ | well, that's always nice.. |
| 04:24:08 | fozz | :) |
| 04:24:09 | brailsmt | fears 345 |
| 04:27:57 | bbeattie | tries to recall.. It hasn't been that long, 455 is graphics, right? from Olsen? 345 is Operating Systems? who is that class from this semester? |
| 04:31:04 | brailsmt | i have 345 from Cornell, and i have 428 from woodfield, and 455 from Burton |
| 04:34:40 | bbeattie | brailsmt: woodfield is another teacher I hold in high regards. Some people don't like him, but he is an understand teacher, who does the projects himself, rather than just assigning them. I never had Cornell, but I enjoyed 345, a wonderful class for learning about memory, filesystems, basic network. All around a good class. They modified the class since I took it (removed a couple projects I've heard) But I would look forward to that |
| 04:34:40 | bbeattie | urton is suppost to be great for 455. I think you've got either good glasses, or good teachers for the classes. Cornell may be tough, but it will be worth learning. |
| 04:35:55 | bbeattie | spelling errors are a reflection of fat fingers and being up late, not my normal spelling issues. ;) |
| 04:36:06 | brailsmt | cornell is good for 345, he offers lots of extra credit projects for ppl that need it |
| 04:37:20 | bbeattie | brailsmt: you can easily get behind in 345, a couple projects build, and many arn't cake walks (the FAT labs are fun/great for learning, but a little bug can cause lots of pain and time) |
| 04:38:37 | brailsmt | bbeattie: this is my second time around for 345... :( |
| 04:38:45 | brailsmt | i tried to take it in the summer... |
| 04:38:50 | brailsmt | ^-- STUPID! |
| 04:38:56 | brailsmt | or |
| 04:39:00 | brailsmt | <-- STUPID! |
| 04:39:01 | brailsmt | :) |
| 04:42:40 | bbeattie | I took it for summer :-) Before the projects were cut back. I think I knew half the class, the half that ran Linux and not windows on their home computers, or that didn't have computers. :) |
| 04:43:02 | bbeattie | 345 isn't an easy summy class at all. |
| 04:43:27 | brailsmt | s/summy// |
| 04:43:27 | brailsmt | :) |
| 04:44:05 | bbeattie | it's late heh |
| 04:44:39 | bbeattie | brailsmt: has there been much talk this year about the lack of jobs? |
| 04:47:22 | brailsmt | no |
| 14:41:24 | han_solo | "scsi0 (6:0) Target is suffering from tag starvation." on an hp workstation (running linux) during fsck |
| 14:41:33 | han_solo | any ideas? |
| 14:57:54 | levi | Get out the spray paint and tag it. |
| 15:09:10 | fozz | Found this via google about tag starvation errors in the SCSI kernel modules: |
| 15:09:11 | fozz | I used to get this a lot, until James changed the driver to only report |
| 15:09:11 | fozz | the first occurance of it. Don't remember the exact details, but iirc |
| 15:09:11 | fozz | it is for info only, and non-fatal. From the code it looks like it |
| 15:09:11 | fozz | means some cmnd has been sitting in the drive unprocessed for too long, |
| 15:09:11 | fozz | and the code rejects new cmds until those older ones have been processed |
| 15:09:14 | fozz | or timed out. |
| 15:09:33 | fozz | So it doesn't sound too serious. |
| 15:18:27 | han_solo | cool. thanks |
| 19:25:15 | han_solo | prints out the make quick reference |
| 20:15:11 | scott | so I drive on this Yonezawa road to work every day for the last few months, and today I got a speeding ticket |
| 20:15:24 | scott | tomorrow is my last day of work and after that I will never drive on it again |
| 20:15:25 | Bradipo | What is a Yonezawa? |
| 20:15:31 | scott | the name of the street :) |
| 20:15:39 | Bradipo | Oh... |
| 20:15:51 | Bradipo | Where is it then? :-) |
| 20:16:01 | scott | Moses Lake WA :) |
| 20:16:07 | scott | it's crazy though |
| 20:16:11 | scott | because this road is 4 lanes |
| 20:16:21 | scott | and I was going 47 in a 35 |
| 20:16:36 | scott | I drive like 3 miles on that road every day |
| 20:16:51 | scott | and I maybe see one car the whole way |
| 20:17:17 | scott | there's absolutely no reason for it to not be a 50mph zone |
| 20:17:30 | scott | except that they want it to be a residential area someday |
| 20:17:40 | Bradipo | That's lame. |
| 20:17:40 | scott | they have it broken up into plots and stuff as if they're going to build houses |
| 20:17:49 | scott | but there's not a single house even beginning construction |
| 20:18:12 | Bradipo | A residential area doesn't have 4 lane highways... |
| 20:18:12 | scott | like dwn town the speed limit is 40mph, with tons of cars, buildings and people along the sides |
| 20:18:22 | Jayce^ | scott: you're in moses lake? why?? |
| 20:18:29 | scott | and here out in nowhere land they have no cars, no people, no houses or buildings, 4 lanes no cars, and freakin 35mph |
| 20:18:35 | scott | Jayce^, I live here :) |
| 20:18:39 | Bradipo | lol |
| 20:18:48 | Jayce^ | I'm sorry scott... |
| 20:18:58 | scott | why, too small? |
| 20:19:01 | Jayce^ | :D never like eastern WA.. too much like utah.. |
| 20:19:17 | scott | how's Mexico City? bigger the better? |
| 20:19:19 | Jayce^ | grew up in western WA.. it's in our blood to dislike eastern WA |
| 20:19:46 | scott | bradipo, you wouldn't believe this road, it's crazy |
| 20:19:52 | scott | they have a couple round abouts |
| 20:20:01 | scott | and the crazy thing is that it's justa straight road |
| 20:20:12 | scott | it's a round about in the middle of one road |
| 20:20:17 | scott | there's no intersecting roads |
| 20:20:52 | scott | atleast I can see the sun over here |
| 20:21:24 | Jayce^ | the 'sun' ??? what's that? the daystar? |
| 20:30:19 | brailsmt | the sun is the thing i try to stay away from... because the more time i spend in the sun, the worse my grades are... |
| 20:49:11 | Kryptik | begins to power idle... |
| 20:49:58 | Kryptik | You here fozz? |
| 20:53:53 | han_solo | loves this weather |
| 20:54:08 | levi | It's like Seattle weather. |
| 20:54:31 | han_solo | my wife, though, is a fair-weather lover |
| 20:54:38 | han_solo | wb |
| 20:55:21 | brailsmt | thx, att is having network problems i think |
| 20:58:27 | Kryptik | what makes you say that? |
| 21:24:53 | brailsmt | i have lost connection at least 3 times a day for the last 3-4 days |
| 21:26:05 | brailsmt | anyone in the mood for a game of starcraft? |
| 21:26:29 | han_solo | i might be, but I've got some stuff due tomorrow and I'd have to boot into windows. :) |
| 21:27:08 | Jayce^ | yeah, the whole windows thing kinda kills it.. |
| 21:27:17 | Jayce^ | and since I dont' have it installed even.. |
| 21:27:29 | Jayce^ | used to paly a lot.. but it's been a long time. |
| 21:28:04 | Jayce^ | paly == play |
| 21:28:05 | brailsmt | i just bought it today :) |
| 21:28:19 | brailsmt | my wife would be pissed if she knew I got it... :o |
| 21:28:32 | Jayce^ | ahh, one of those purchases :D |
| 21:28:55 | brailsmt | well, it'll be ok so long as i also do my homework... |
| 21:29:01 | brailsmt | which i intend to do |
| 21:29:16 | Jayce^ | "intend" oh yeah... riiight.. |
| 21:29:50 | han_solo | lol |
| 21:30:06 | brailsmt | plus it is an old game... if i got warcraft III, then i would have a hard time... |
| 21:30:14 | han_solo | you're gonna shoot me for this, brailsmt but I found freecraft much more addicting than starcraft |
| 21:30:29 | han_solo | not that I'm good at either, and I discovered freecraft first |
| 21:30:41 | brailsmt | really? i found the gameplay and controls to be lacking in freecraft |
| 21:30:43 | han_solo | but it's also that the whole space thing doesn't really interest me in a game as much |
| 21:30:55 | han_solo | me too, but there is a simplicity to freecraft |
| 21:31:22 | han_solo | i might like warcraft more than starcraft |
| 21:31:34 | brailsmt | you are right, but I was so into starcraft before that that simplicity doesn't keep me interested |
| 21:31:38 | Jayce^ | freecraft is rather lacking IMHO.. |
| 21:32:34 | brailsmt | *sigh* |
| 21:32:45 | brailsmt | starts a new game v the cpu... boring... |
| 21:33:14 | Jayce^ | yeah, it get's to the point where you can always whup the computer.. |
| 21:33:35 | scott | I've only played computer a couple times in war3 but I got my butt kicked |
| 21:33:52 | brailsmt | it gets to the point that you play protoss get dark archons mind control a peon of each race and then attack with hydras, zealots and medics... |
| 21:34:14 | Jayce^ | yup.. |
| 21:35:19 | brailsmt | or better yet, attack with an army of infested terrans, just for the heck of it... |
| 21:36:17 | brailsmt | oh, or play big game hunters versus 7 computers... |
| 21:37:11 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 21:38:21 | brailsmt | goes for the mindcontrol game... |
| 21:57:41 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |