| 00:45:50 | brailsmt | my 4 year old just came and asked me if "dumba**" is an ok word to say... |
| 00:46:00 | brailsmt | I tried my best to keep a straight face... |
| 03:28:02 | graffix | Does anyone know of a way to send a ctrl+alt+delte via a command ? |
| 03:39:19 | BZFlag | nope. |
| 03:39:52 | BZFlag | You could hack the kernel to generate the same event, but there is so normal software way that I know of. |
| 03:40:20 | BZFlag | sysctl gives you break handling on a serial port though. |
| 03:45:15 | graffix | crazy |
| 03:45:31 | graffix | I just found a really strange think about the vncviewer for linux |
| 03:46:04 | graffix | woops wrong window |
| 03:46:53 | han_solo | let me say, neat (web interface for configuring netsaint) is not neat. |
| 03:46:55 | han_solo | it is lame |
| 03:46:59 | han_solo | gnight |
| 13:01:34 | cosmic_away | is back (gone 14:49:53) |
| 14:52:21 | han_solo | so brailsmt, does infringement-bot play mp3s too? |
| 15:02:48 | han_solo | does the ^ mean you're awake? |
| 15:03:15 | han_solo | this ^_^ looks nothing like a person, smiling or not. anyone want to clue me in? |
| 15:07:25 | Jayce^ | no.. from my days in pascal :D |
| 15:07:40 | Jayce^ | got tagged on by some other students.. and stuck |
| 15:08:00 | han_solo | i did pascal for a semester brefore the mission... but I was much more comfortable in basic and C++ |
| 15:08:12 | han_solo | now I can't remember pascal. although i can read it |
| 15:09:12 | Jayce^ | I did it in 11th grade.. |
| 15:10:23 | Jayce^ | but then I did delphi after the mission |
| 15:10:23 | Jayce^ | I can't remember squat :D |
| 15:10:47 | han_solo | but on your deathbed you'll probably remember how to write perl. :) |
| 15:12:31 | Jayce^ | of course... |
| 15:12:36 | Jayce^ | prays in perl :D |
| 15:12:44 | Jayce^ | wow.. did you hear that thunder? |
| 15:12:45 | han_solo | :) |
| 15:12:51 | han_solo | headphones |
| 15:12:59 | han_solo | is it going to storm? |
| 15:13:14 | Jayce^ | being funny.. about the prayer joke... |
| 15:13:19 | han_solo | I'd better put on my umbrella hat (built-in lighting rod) |
| 15:13:29 | han_solo | took me a sec. ;-) |
| 15:13:35 | Jayce^ | no, I know the real language to use.. heard it from the first presidency .. |
| 15:14:02 | CosmicPenguin | Jayce^: thunder? Where are you? |
| 15:14:22 | Jayce^ | at Ricks, elder Eyring and Pres. Faust were dedicating a new building. Eyring spoke first and went on about the eloquence of spanish, and the beauty of it for prayer.. |
| 15:14:26 | Jayce^ | CosmicPenguin: a joke. |
| 15:14:33 | CosmicPenguin | is out of it |
| 15:14:42 | han_solo | that's what you get for being cosmic |
| 15:14:51 | Jayce^ | Pres Faust got up after him and mentioned that while one could pray in Spanish, God answered in Portuguese |
| 15:14:52 | han_solo | 5 miles off the ground at least |
| 15:14:53 | Jayce^ | :D |
| 15:14:58 | han_solo | :) |
| 15:15:13 | han_solo | brazilian portuguese is a beautiful language |
| 15:15:22 | Jayce^ | oh yeah |
| 15:15:46 | Jayce^ | just not from Rio or Manaus.. they say their s's funny |
| 15:16:53 | TheTool | what is the syntax for a logical or with grep |
| 15:16:54 | TheTool | I tried |
| 15:16:59 | TheTool | grep 80 || 443 |
| 15:18:28 | Jayce^ | as in grep "80|40" |
| 15:18:29 | han_solo | grep and regexes have always been a mystery for me. never does what I expect |
| 15:19:34 | TheTool | hmm |
| 15:19:36 | TheTool | that didn't work |
| 15:19:41 | TheTool | surrounding it with quotes |
| 15:20:25 | Jayce^ | witht the single pipe? |
| 15:20:42 | TheTool | [fosdick@d03proxy100 fosdick]$ netstat -na|grep LISTEN|grep "80 || 443" |
| 15:20:43 | TheTool | [fosdick@d03proxy100 fosdick]$ netstat -na|grep LISTEN|grep "80 | 443" |
| 15:20:47 | Jayce^ | tries to make the switch from perl regex to grep.. |
| 15:20:48 | TheTool | returns nothing |
| 15:20:52 | Jayce^ | get rid of the space |
| 15:20:59 | Jayce^ | unless you really want them |
| 15:21:03 | han_solo | runs off to rtm |
| 15:21:12 | han_solo | there's a section on regular expressions in the grep manpage |
| 15:23:29 | han_solo | $ netstat -r | grep "128\|127" |
| 15:23:29 | han_solo | 128.187.171.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 40 0 0 eth0 |
| 15:23:29 | han_solo | 127.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 40 0 0 lo |
| 15:23:58 | TheTool | awsome han_solo |
| 15:23:59 | TheTool | thanks |
| 15:24:46 | han_solo | "In basic regular expressions the metacharacters ?, +, {, |
| 15:24:47 | han_solo | |, (, and ) lose their special meaning; instead use the |
| 15:24:47 | han_solo | backslashed versions \?, \+, \{, \|, \(, and \). |
| 15:24:47 | han_solo | " |
| 15:25:08 | han_solo | grep -E "128|127" also works |
| 15:25:36 | Jayce^ | interesting.. I wouldn't have figured you need to backslash it in the quotes.. |
| 15:26:27 | han_solo | default is basic regexes, which traditionally didn't include those things. GNU grep includes the same functionaility for basic or extended regexes - the difference being in basic mode you have to escape the chars. |
| 15:26:48 | han_solo | . and * still get expanded though, without escaping |
| 15:26:49 | TheTool | but |
| 15:26:55 | Jayce^ | wow.. egrep then :D |
| 15:26:58 | TheTool | if you escape the special meaing of | |
| 15:27:09 | TheTool | then would that just be searching for the literal | |
| 15:27:10 | TheTool | ? |
| 15:27:26 | han_solo | in basic mode, | has no special meaning until you do escape it. |
| 15:27:34 | han_solo | egrep = grep -E |
| 15:27:45 | han_solo | I recommend egrep when using regexes :) |
| 15:27:48 | TheTool | so the escape is giving it its meaning? |
| 15:27:52 | han_solo | yes |
| 15:28:12 | TheTool | thanks again |
| 15:29:06 | han_solo | np |
| 15:40:10 | han_solo | it's times like this, when I finally learn the basic functionality of one of the most basic tools that I have been using for nearly 4 years now, that are both fun and humbling. |
| 15:43:05 | Jayce^ | han_solo: I recommend perl when using regexes :) |
| 15:43:40 | han_solo | :) of course you do. But I recommend grep for grepping |
| 15:43:51 | han_solo | stops soliquilizing |
| 15:45:48 | Jayce^ | so, plug should be running just fine again.. |
| 15:49:59 | han_solo | don't you mean it should be plugging along merrily? |
| 15:50:13 | Jayce^ | umm.. yeah.. something like that :D |
| 15:59:40 | levi__ | I have a little nit to pick. Shouldn't 'Slashdot Like' be hyphenated? |
| 15:59:55 | han_solo | he's absolutely right |
| 16:00:02 | han_solo | it's an adjective |
| 16:01:22 | levi__ | Are you saying I'm right or the webpage as it stands now is right? |
| 16:01:29 | han_solo | levi is right |
| 16:01:41 | han_solo | multi-word adjectives should be hyphenated. |
| 16:01:48 | levi__ | Right. |
| 16:01:58 | han_solo | As in "Levi is a most-excellent person" |
| 16:02:07 | han_solo | well, maybe most isn't part of the adjective |
| 16:02:11 | levi__ | Hmm. I don't know about that one. :) |
| 16:02:28 | levi__ | That's an adverb modifying the adjective. |
| 16:02:41 | han_solo | i spoke too soon. need to think of a better example. :) |
| 16:03:55 | levi__ | Well, 'slashdot-like web page' |
| 16:04:11 | levi | Darn creeping underscores... |
| 16:05:10 | han_solo | true. I can't think of a better example at the moment |
| 16:05:59 | levi | Or any other noun with '-like' tacked onto the end. |
| 16:07:33 | han_solo | So, it's like, valley-girl-like speech, right? |
| 16:12:38 | levi | Like, totally. |
| 18:16:36 | han_solo | heh - using open office for the first time, and I notice that openoffice and openoffice.org both are marked as misspelled. :) |
| 18:36:13 | levi | Heh. |
| 18:45:28 | brailsmt | freecraft ai blows chunks... |
| 18:52:15 | han_solo | wb bra |
| 18:56:29 | levi | . o O ( Warner Brothers' brassiere ) |
| 18:56:44 | han_solo | bra<tab> |
| 18:56:49 | han_solo | pushed caps instead. :) |
| 18:57:48 | levi | Yeah, but alternate acronym/abbreviation expansions are fun. :) |
| 19:33:13 | Jayce^ | hey han_solo.. guess what just came via UPS for me :D |
| 19:33:33 | han_solo | my vim book? :) |
| 19:34:06 | Jayce^ | nope.. my vim.. oredered it a bit ago... :D |
| 19:34:16 | Jayce^ | got to try and get the schwag one still.. |
| 19:34:25 | han_solo | :) |
| 19:37:06 | Jayce^ | mmmm... 572 pages of vimness |
| 19:40:27 | han_solo | mmmm |
| 19:40:34 | han_solo | is it the new riders, or the oreilly? |
| 19:41:56 | Jayce^ | new riders |
| 19:45:44 | han_solo | is jealous |
| 19:45:50 | Jayce^ | bwahahaa... |
| 19:46:04 | Jayce^ | just get a good discussion ready for next month.. you'll get one :D |
| 19:47:35 | han_solo | ok :) |
| 19:48:59 | Jayce^ | might want to start trolling the group for things to hit on. eg.. here's how you do foo in vim |
| 19:50:42 | han_solo | hey, that's a slick idea |
| 19:51:14 | Jayce^ | it's useful.. plus I'd have some things to suggest :D |
| 19:53:45 | Jayce^ | like, although I now have the book, there are things I always forget.. |
| 19:53:53 | Jayce^ | like performing commands on a range |
| 19:54:02 | Jayce^ | (indenting of course :D ) |
| 19:54:12 | Jayce^ | or that code folding... oh man that's nice.. |
| 19:55:57 | han_solo | I'll get a good list of stuff to talk on |
| 19:59:20 | Jayce^ | I should look around.. I used to have a very cool Vim cheat sheat.. |
| 20:04:09 | Jayce^ | wb BZFlag |
| 20:06:18 | han_solo | or do you mean wb bra |
| 20:08:25 | BZFlag | bra? |
| 20:08:49 | | tangent was last seen on #handhelds.org 23 hours, 23 minutes and 6 seconds ago, saying: cdm: Howdy [Tue Aug 27 21:45:43 2002] |
| 20:08:49 | BZFlag | ibot: seen tangent |
| 20:08:52 | han_solo | sorry, inside joke from a few minutes ago |
| 20:08:55 | BZFlag | ah |
| 20:30:15 | han_solo | funny how different channels have different personalities |
| 20:30:40 | Jayce^ | oh? |
| 20:31:55 | han_solo | #ruby-lang is almost as cool as #utah, #vim is friendly, #mutt is quiet and mostly read the fine manual (at least politely), and #java is a bunch of apes in serious need of a better half. (all seen through the irc glasses of course) |
| 20:32:34 | Jayce^ | hehe |
| 20:32:47 | han_solo | then of course the big channels like #debian where there's way too much traffic to even glean a personality out of. :) |
| 20:33:05 | Jayce^ | #mysql is newbies who really should read.. #perl is usually more on task then the "original" |
| 20:33:42 | Jayce^ | #sourcemage usually get's used to discuss development.. usually :D |
| 21:12:00 | han_solo | brailsmt |
| 21:17:54 | han_solo | does anyone have a spare video card -> kvm cord? |