| 00:00:26 | brailsmt | same here for 'cat /dev/psaux' |
| 00:00:36 | brailsmt | I don't have a /dev/input/ directory... |
| 00:00:59 | BZFlag | brailsmt: you don't have a usb mouce, though do you? that's what fugalh is trying to get working. |
| 00:01:01 | brailsmt | i'm running gentoo, if that matters any |
| 00:01:17 | brailsmt | oh, ok... no mine is ps2... |
| 00:01:53 | BZFlag | usb-uhci 21028 0 (unused) |
| 00:01:53 | BZFlag | mousedev 3808 1 |
| 00:01:53 | BZFlag | hid 12576 0 (unused) |
| 00:01:53 | BZFlag | input 3072 0 [mousedev hid] |
| 00:01:53 | BZFlag | usbcore 51872 1 [usb-storage usbserial usbnet usb-uhci hid] |
| 00:02:52 | fugalh | brailsmt, i get stuff from /dev/psaux but not /dev/input/mice |
| 00:03:10 | brailsmt | then you must have a ps2 mouse... |
| 00:03:40 | brailsmt | or at least some ps2 device... |
| 00:04:13 | fugalh | well, I have both |
| 00:04:18 | fugalh | the usb mouse is a trackball |
| 00:04:36 | fugalh | but that's irrelevant. It's worked with its ps2 adapter and works at work (redhat 7.3) |
| 00:04:40 | brailsmt | is your /dev/psaux a symlink? mine is... |
| 00:04:47 | BZFlag | got all those modules? (or statics...) |
| 00:05:00 | fugalh | all but usb-uhci |
| 00:05:11 | BZFlag | fugalh: what do you have instead? |
| 00:05:16 | fugalh | goes to eat dinner in the middle of his project. *sigh* but yumm. :) |
| 00:05:18 | BZFlag | uhci? ohci? |
| 00:05:29 | brailsmt | well, anyway, I don't know much about devices anyway... but if you have a vim question, I'm your man! :) |
| 00:05:53 | BZFlag | how do I do a search and replace on multiple buffers? |
| 00:06:08 | fugalh | bzflag - I did modprobe usb-ohci and now it works. mil gratzi!\ |
| 00:06:09 | brailsmt | sed :) |
| 00:06:37 | BZFlag | fugalh: np. ;-) that's what the channel is all about. ;-) |
| 00:06:53 | BZFlag | fugalh: oh, now add that to /etc/usbmgr/usbmgr.conf |
| 00:07:03 | BZFlag | so it will happen next reboot. |
| 00:08:40 | fozzmoo | moos |
| 00:09:25 | brailsmt | BZFlag: I am not sure if you can do that with vim, but you can pass the buffer numbers to sed via ":r !sed -e "s///" #1 #2" |
| 00:09:32 | brailsmt | i beleive that syntax is right... |
| 00:11:18 | BZFlag | is there an option to pass them all? |
| 00:11:57 | brailsmt | hrmm... |
| 00:11:59 | BZFlag | I wish there was a way to enhance %. something like :*%s/foo/bar/gc would rock. |
| 00:12:25 | brailsmt | '*' meaning run on all buffers? |
| 00:12:29 | BZFlag | yeah. |
| 00:12:39 | BZFlag | *% would mean all lines in all buffers. |
| 00:13:49 | BZFlag | msc version 5.x had that feature in the editor. the only thing I liked about it. ;-) |
| 00:14:29 | BZFlag | well, there it was a wildcard file name with the option to recurse the tree even. |
| 00:15:17 | brailsmt | well you could du something like ":ruby Vim::Buffer.each {|buf| buf.gsub!(/pattern/, 'replacement') }" |
| 00:15:21 | brailsmt | :) |
| 00:16:15 | brailsmt | at least you could write a script to do it for you |
| 00:22:20 | fugalh | bzflag: i don't have an /etc/usbmgr - should I install that? |
| 00:26:17 | BZFlag | fugalh: ah. I'd suggest it, unless space is critical. it just loads the usb drivers on the fly for you and can give you nice soothing beeps when it does. |
| 00:26:40 | BZFlag | ruby? |
| 00:26:41 | HarleyBot | BZFlag, An object-oriented language for quick and easy programming. URL: http://www.ruby-lang.org/ |
| 00:26:52 | fugalh | vim? |
| 00:26:52 | HarleyBot | fugalh, Popular vi clone that features syntax highlighting and an X11 interface. URL: http://www.vim.org/ |
| 00:26:57 | fugalh | heh |
| 00:27:00 | brailsmt | ruby is awesome! |
| 00:27:20 | fugalh | thx, bzflag. will do. |
| 00:27:25 | fugalh | scuttles off to do the dishes |
| 00:27:26 | | ruby is probably the OO scripting language from Japan or in feed "http://httpd.chello.nl/k.vangelder/ipaq/feed/" or featuring the best from Perl and SmallTalk or in feed "http://handhelds.org/feeds/ruby/" |
| 00:27:26 | BZFlag | ibot ruby? |
| 00:28:08 | brailsmt | you program ruby? |
| 00:29:50 | brailsmt | who here is from the byu uug? |
| 00:51:59 | fugalh | raises his uug hand |
| 00:52:39 | brailsmt | cool, I just joined yesterday :) |
| 00:53:00 | fugalh | welcome :) |
| 00:55:46 | fugalh | judging from your vim conversation you'll be a good asset. |
| 00:56:04 | brailsmt | just don't ask me about devices :) |
| 01:07:01 | sigcode | hi all, anyone from byu uug? |
| 01:07:12 | brailsmt | |
| 01:07:21 | brailsmt | raises hand... |
| 01:08:54 | sigcode | i saw the posting on the club website and thought I'd check in |
| 01:09:14 | brailsmt | what posting? |
| 01:09:15 | HarleyBot | posting is n. Noun corresp. to v. post (but note that post can be nouned). Distinguished from a `letter' or ordinary email message by the fact that it is broadcast rather than point-to-point. It is not clear whether messages sent to a small mailing list are postings or email; perhaps the best dividing line is that if you don't know the names of all the potential recipients, it is a posting. |
| 01:09:24 | fugalh | rases hand |
| 01:09:25 | brailsmt | haha |
| 01:09:34 | fugalh | thanks harleybot |
| 01:09:53 | brailsmt | that was edifying... |
| 01:09:58 | | no idea, fugalh |
| 01:09:58 | fugalh | ibot, what is posting? |
| 01:10:10 | fugalh | harleybot is smarter than ibot already. |
| 01:10:12 | brailsmt | what foo? |
| 01:10:14 | brailsmt | haha |
| 01:10:30 | fugalh | foo? |
| 01:10:38 | fugalh | foo must be long. :) |
| 01:10:39 | fugalh | foo? |
| 01:10:59 | brailsmt | dict foo is 187 lines long... |
| 01:11:10 | fugalh | what was the posting about? just the existence of this lowly channel? |
| 01:11:21 | brailsmt | and if it is trying to pipe 'dict foo' to irc opn will kill it every time... |
| 01:12:11 | brailsmt | ltes have some fun... |
| 01:12:12 | brailsmt | emacs? |
| 01:12:13 | HarleyBot | i think emacs is /ee'maks/ [from Editing MACroS] n. The ne plus ultra of hacker editors, a program editor with an entire LISP system inside it. It was originally written by Richard Stallman in TECO under {ITS} at the MIT AI lab, but the most widely used versions now run under UNIX. It includes facilities to run compilation subprocesses and send and receive mail; many hackers spend up to 80% of their {tube time} inside it. Some versions running under wind |
| 01:12:17 | brailsmt | vim? |
| 01:12:18 | HarleyBot | brailsmt, Popular vi clone that features syntax highlighting and an X11 interface. URL: http://www.vim.org/ |
| 01:12:24 | brailsmt | boo, hiss... |
| 01:12:31 | brailsmt | a little disparity there... |
| 01:13:08 | fugalh | harleybot, vim is also the very best editor. |
| 01:13:08 | HarleyBot | okay, fugalh. |
| 01:13:11 | fugalh | vim? |
| 01:13:11 | HarleyBot | fugalh, Popular vi clone that features syntax highlighting and an X11 interface. URL: http://www.vim.org/ or the very best editor. |
| 01:13:21 | brailsmt | forget vim |
| 01:13:22 | HarleyBot | brailsmt: I forgot vim |
| 01:13:26 | brailsmt | vim? |
| 01:13:35 | brailsmt | vim is <reply>The BEST! |
| 01:13:40 | brailsmt | hrmm... |
| 01:13:42 | brailsmt | vim? |
| 01:13:42 | HarleyBot | The BEST! |
| 01:13:44 | sigcode | any C/C++ coders??? |
| 01:13:45 | brailsmt | :) |
| 01:13:50 | brailsmt | raises hand |
| 01:13:53 | fugalh | sigcode, me |
| 01:14:03 | brailsmt | forget emacs |
| 01:14:03 | HarleyBot | brailsmt: I forgot emacs |
| 01:14:23 | sigcode | i need a tutorial on makefiles (automake,etc) I know makefiles well, just have problems with header deps. |
| 01:14:24 | brailsmt | emacs is to RSI as vim is to l33t |
| 01:14:27 | brailsmt | emacs? |
| 01:14:28 | HarleyBot | rumour has it emacs is to RSI as vim is to l33t |
| 01:14:34 | brailsmt | haah |
| 01:14:47 | brailsmt | what problems with deps? |
| 01:15:14 | sigcode | changes to headers don't trigger make to compile .cc files |
| 01:15:26 | fugalh | lol |
| 01:15:38 | sigcode | I was trying something from gcc like -M or something, can't remember....didn't work tho |
| 01:15:41 | fugalh | oh, I've never delved into automake stuff |
| 01:15:55 | brailsmt | I don't know automake, other than it is evil... |
| 01:16:03 | brailsmt | but you can add something like this... |
| 01:16:09 | brailsmt | in normal makefiles... |
| 01:16:50 | brailsmt | crap... hang on, I gotta dig up my past makefiles... :) |
| 01:17:53 | fugalh | don't you have the .h files in the .cc file dependencies? |
| 01:18:01 | fugalh | then the main target would have all the .o files as dependencies |
| 01:18:25 | fugalh | so .cc files get recompiled with header changes, the target gets relinked with implementation changes |
| 01:18:33 | sigcode | yeah, but I have like 50 files...maintaining header deps stinks with that many... |
| 01:19:18 | brailsmt | stupid midnight commander... |
| 01:19:35 | fugalh | gmc or mc? |
| 01:19:58 | brailsmt | mc |
| 01:20:10 | brailsmt | i prefer term app, with the exception of gvim |
| 01:20:12 | fugalh | you know what we need? |
| 01:20:26 | fugalh | a decent file manager like the next one |
| 01:20:39 | fugalh | NeXT? |
| 01:20:48 | brailsmt | 29 .SUFFIXES: |
| 01:20:48 | brailsmt | 30 .SUFFIXES: .o .cpp .h |
| 01:20:48 | brailsmt | 31 %.o: %.cpp %.h |
| 01:20:48 | brailsmt | 32 ${CC} ${CPPFLAGS} -c $< |
| 01:20:51 | brailsmt | there... |
| 01:21:10 | brailsmt | put that in your makefile, and it will automatically make if a header changed... |
| 01:21:20 | sigcode | ahh, thanks |
| 01:21:32 | fugalh | you guys seen ltris? |
| 01:21:59 | brailsmt | ltris? is that a tetris clone? |
| 01:22:27 | fugalh | the best I've ever seen |
| 01:22:34 | fugalh | and it's multiplayer, incl. the cpu |
| 01:22:53 | brailsmt | i used to play lots of tetris... |
| 01:23:05 | brailsmt | that was before my mission though |
| 01:23:08 | fugalh | me too. and supertetris. and then it was puzznic |
| 01:23:38 | sigcode | brailsmt, sweetness... thx |
| 01:23:42 | sigcode | it works |
| 01:23:57 | brailsmt | the best cpu you could buy before my mission was a 486dx4 ... :) |
| 01:24:09 | brailsmt | and it was a screaming machine |
| 01:24:17 | brailsmt | internet didn't exist then either... |
| 01:24:38 | fugalh | internet barely existed before I left - 14.4, 56k was a novelty |
| 01:24:53 | fugalh | of course by exist we mean in the public... |
| 01:25:08 | brailsmt | I remeber using my parents 8088 with a 1200 baud modem :) |
| 01:26:24 | fugalh | and the bbs's |
| 01:26:38 | sigcode | ahh bbs's - those were the days... |
| 01:26:43 | brailsmt | TW2000 |
| 01:28:53 | fugalh | in a few years we'll be reminiscing about y2k |
| 01:33:19 | sigcode | anyone checked out eclipse lately? |
| 01:33:35 | fugalh | eclipse? |
| 01:33:39 | brailsmt | what is eclipse? |
| 01:33:54 | sigcode | www.eclipse.org It's an IDE |
| 01:34:16 | sigcode | 100% java, but performs like native app... can use it for C/C++ dev |
| 01:34:40 | brailsmt | vim/make/gdb is my ide |
| 01:34:42 | brailsmt | :) |
| 01:34:49 | fugalh | mine too :) |
| 01:35:05 | brailsmt | a-a-p looks interesting to me |
| 01:35:23 | brailsmt | it is in part an ide with a pluggable editor interface |
| 01:35:33 | brailsmt | www.aap.org <-- i think |
| 01:35:35 | brailsmt | emacs? |
| 01:35:36 | HarleyBot | somebody said emacs was to RSI as vim is to l33t |
| 01:35:38 | brailsmt | :) |
| 01:35:51 | sigcode | you have to use make and gdb |
| 01:36:06 | brailsmt | in eclipse? |
| 01:36:15 | sigcode | yeah |
| 01:36:32 | brailsmt | I don't like java much anymore |
| 01:36:45 | brailsmt | alhtough have you heard about gcj? |
| 01:37:04 | sigcode | sort of, been awhile... |
| 01:37:07 | brailsmt | Gnu Compiler for Java |
| 01:37:20 | brailsmt | supposedly it is pretty good now, except for gui's |
| 01:37:35 | sigcode | part of gcc now? |
| 01:37:39 | brailsmt | I use ruby now anyway |
| 01:37:50 | brailsmt | i don't know |
| 01:37:59 | sigcode | hmm. |
| 01:38:01 | fugalh | gcj is ok, but not java2 |
| 01:38:06 | fugalh | at least not completely |
| 01:38:15 | sigcode | java2, that's what most people need nowadays... |
| 01:38:15 | fugalh | so preach to me about ruby |
| 01:38:27 | sigcode | yeah, ruby? let's hear... |
| 01:38:40 | brailsmt | hrmm, it is a clean, pure OO scripting language |
| 01:39:12 | brailsmt | it is extremely easy to extend in C |
| 01:39:25 | brailsmt | if you need speed for example... |
| 01:40:04 | brailsmt | also I just used it to create a gui in Linux using the Ruby/tk module and then I created the C bindings to tie it to my C++ app :) |
| 01:40:39 | sigcode | kewl |
| 01:40:50 | sigcode | integration is fun...sometimes |
| 01:40:56 | brailsmt | with ruby it is :) |
| 01:41:12 | brailsmt | I also used to solve the N queens problem for CS 312 |
| 01:41:20 | sigcode | really? |
| 01:41:29 | sigcode | how fast could you get it to go? |
| 01:42:00 | fugalh | where do you suggest going for a quick orientation to the language? |
| 01:42:24 | fugalh | what is the advantage of oop for scripting - I generally use scripting when I have a quick n dirty task |
| 01:42:51 | brailsmt | yeah, hang on... |
| 01:42:59 | brailsmt | www.pragmaticprogrammer.com |
| 01:43:08 | brailsmt | lemme get the ful url... |
| 01:45:20 | brailsmt | http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/talks/introruby/introruby.htm |
| 01:45:29 | brailsmt | that is a ppt presentation about tuby |
| 01:45:59 | brailsmt | prepared by the guys that wrote "The Pragmattic Programmer" which is an excellent which I *highly* recommend |
| 01:51:11 | sigcode | when did you take CS 312? |
| 01:51:47 | fugalh | excellent - book? |
| 01:52:01 | fugalh | I recommend Design Patterns for anyone who hasn't read it. |
| 01:52:28 | brailsmt | I am in it right now |
| 01:52:56 | brailsmt | yeah, it is a boolk |
| 01:53:48 | brailsmt | s/boolk/book |
| 01:53:57 | fugalh | isn't it a great book? |
| 01:54:18 | brailsmt | yeah, I have the patterns book by the gang of four right next to the keyboard :) |
| 01:54:32 | brailsmt | where it stays |
| 01:54:42 | sigcode | design patterns ? |
| 01:54:44 | fugalh | i had a blast the other day writing a ContentHandler (SAX) in Java - the handler of the event-based XMLReader parser. |
| 01:55:09 | brailsmt | you guys check out that url? |
| 01:55:16 | fugalh | nested classes make the State pattern cake. |
| 01:55:20 | fugalh | yeah, I'm going through it now |
| 01:55:35 | brailsmt | ruby has open classes... which is very, very nice |
| 01:56:10 | fugalh | what's an open class? |
| 01:56:15 | sigcode | ruby looks interesting |
| 01:56:40 | fugalh | yes it does, I am definitely going to look into it further |
| 01:56:47 | brailsmt | for example say you have an Array, and you wish the Array class had a method to do stuff with the Array... |
| 01:57:01 | brailsmt | you can simply do this in ruby |
| 01:57:05 | fugalh | what about ruby with xml? |
| 01:57:05 | brailsmt | class Array |
| 01:57:11 | brailsmt | def a_new_method |
| 01:57:18 | brailsmt | p "somtehing" |
| 01:57:19 | brailsmt | end |
| 01:57:21 | brailsmt | end |
| 01:57:22 | fugalh | oic. that's pretty cool. |
| 01:57:23 | sigcode | what about full system call api? |
| 01:57:34 | brailsmt | and your array now has a new method called "a_new_method" |
| 01:57:50 | brailsmt | sigcode: you mean relfection? |
| 01:58:07 | sigcode | no, like int socket (. . .) etc |
| 01:58:07 | brailsmt | s/lf/fl |
| 01:58:15 | brailsmt | yes |
| 01:58:24 | sigcode | kewl |
| 01:58:46 | sigcode | what platforms are supported? |
| 01:58:48 | brailsmt | the author to ruby basically rewrote perl in an OO manner and re-organized it... |
| 01:59:02 | brailsmt | linux, BSD, windows, OSX, etc... |
| 01:59:11 | brailsmt | now it is much faster... |
| 01:59:25 | sigcode | interpreted or byte code? |
| 01:59:31 | brailsmt | uhmm... I meant much faster to learn then perl |
| 01:59:43 | brailsmt | it is at the moment slower than perl |
| 02:00:01 | brailsmt | interpreted, but there is a byte-code compiler being written for it |
| 02:00:25 | brailsmt | and I am working on a CPAN-ish pkg system for ruby called rubynet... www.rubynet.org |
| 02:00:30 | BZFlag | fugalh I prepended jargon entries. |
| 02:00:41 | BZFlag | jargon posting? |
| 02:00:47 | | jargon posting is, like, n. Noun corresp. to v. post (but note that post can be nouned). Distinguished from a `letter' or ordinary email message by the fact that it is broadcast rather than point-to-point. It is not clear whether messages sent to a small mailing list are postings or email; perhaps the best dividing line is that if you don't know the names of all the potential recipients, it is a posting |
| 02:00:47 | BZFlag | ibot: jargon posting? |
| 02:01:18 | BZFlag | 90210? |
| 02:01:19 | HarleyBot | rumour has it 90210 is Beverly HillsLos AngelesCA |
| 02:01:25 | fugalh | baz? |
| 02:01:25 | HarleyBot | i think baz is /baz/ [Stanford corruption of bar] n. 1. The third metasyntactic variable, after foo and bar and before quux (or, occasionally, `qux'; or local idiosyncracies like `rag', `zowie', etc.). "Suppose we have three functions FOO,BAR, and BAZ. FOO calls BAR, which calls BAZ...." 2. interj. A term of mild annoyance. In this usage the term is often drawn out for 2 or 3 seconds, producing an effect not unlike the bleating of a sheep; /baaaaaaz/. 3. |
| 02:01:27 | | it has been said that zip 90210 is Beverly Hills Los Angeles CA |
| 02:01:27 | BZFlag | ibot zip 90210 |
| 02:01:36 | | hmmm... jargon baz is /baz/ [Stanford corruption of bar] n. 1. The third metasyntactic variable, after foo and bar and before quux (or, occasionally, `qux'; or local idiosyncracies like `rag', `zowie', etc.). "Suppose we have three functions FOO,BAR, and BAZ. FOO calls BAR, which calls BAZ...." 2. interj. A term of mild annoyance. In this usage the term is often drawn out for 2 or 3 seconds, producing an effect not unlike the bleating of a sheep; /baaaaaaz/. 3. Occasionally appended to foo to produce `foobaz'. |
| 02:01:36 | BZFlag | ibot jargon baz |
| 02:01:53 | fugalh | cool. instant jargon file |
| 02:01:55 | brailsmt | i tried perl for about three months, but I was never able to use it without the camel book at my side... after a week with ruby I was writing all my shell scripts with ruby |
| 02:01:56 | fugalh | i have the book |
| 02:02:10 | fugalh | and oop at that. |
| 02:02:18 | fugalh | oop in perl is Not Easy TM |
| 02:02:28 | brailsmt | oop in perl is butt ugly... |
| 02:02:30 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:02:35 | brailsmt | but that is just my bias :) |
| 02:03:15 | brailsmt | brb... feeding the kids... |
| 02:03:16 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:04:04 | sigcode | quick question -- glibc and libpthread -- are the glibc libs thread safe or not? if not how do I find which ones that aren't and how do I protect them? |
| 02:06:04 | BZFlag | sigcode: not completely. all the calls that are thread safe in POSIX should be thread safe in glibc. |
| 02:06:15 | fugalh | does ruby depend on whitespace? |
| 02:07:38 | sigcode | BZFlag: k |
| 02:09:26 | brailsmt | fugalh: NO! |
| 02:09:33 | fugalh | phew |
| 02:09:35 | brailsmt | that is a python 'feature' |
| 02:09:47 | fugalh | shudders just thinking about depending on whitespace |
| 02:10:21 | brailsmt | ruby is already more popular than python in japan, and it is rapidaly gaining on python in the US |
| 02:10:27 | sigcode | who wrote the bots in this channel? |
| 02:10:31 | BZFlag | most all bugs are features if you ask the right person. |
| 02:10:43 | BZFlag | maintains ibot |
| 02:10:57 | BZFlag | is the channel founder |
| 02:10:59 | brailsmt | what are infobots written in? |
| 02:11:04 | BZFlag | perl |
| 02:11:35 | fugalh | harleypig wrote harleybot |
| 02:11:51 | sigcode | are the bots open source? if so, is there a url? |
| 02:11:52 | BZFlag | fugalh: wrote? no. modified? yes. |
| 02:11:55 | brailsmt | are rbots humorous? |
| 02:11:59 | | somebody said infobot was http://infobot.org/ |
| 02:11:59 | BZFlag | ibot: infobot? |
| 02:12:00 | HarleyBot | BZFlag, Pseudo-AI IRC bot written in Perl. URL: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~infobot/infobot.html |
| 02:12:01 | brailsmt | err... infobots |
| 02:12:03 | fugalh | i stand corrected |
| 02:12:12 | BZFlag | HarleyBot has the old url. |
| 02:12:13 | sigcode | thx |
| 02:12:13 | HarleyBot | BZFlag: what? |
| 02:12:36 | | BZFlag: Maintence window broken |
| 02:12:36 | BZFlag | ibot excuse |
| 02:12:37 | fugalh | you heard him harleybot. |
| 02:12:40 | brailsmt | rbot is open source and written in ruby :) |
| 02:12:47 | | brailsmt is nothing but a spam-sucking puddle of toad-spotted cat-hair-balls. |
| 02:12:47 | BZFlag | ibot insult brailsmt |
| 02:12:47 | brailsmt | and they are funny |
| 02:12:49 | sigcode | heh |
| 02:13:04 | brailsmt | |lart BZFlag |
| 02:13:05 | rbot | uninstalls all editirs on BZFlag's system, leaving him with only "echo >>" |
| 02:13:05 | fugalh | morning rbot |
| 02:13:21 | brailsmt | |part #utah |
| 02:13:36 | brailsmt | just had to bring rbot to bear, against the ibot... |
| 02:13:42 | | anyone is nothing but a decayed coagulation of penguin-molesting poopy. |
| 02:13:42 | sigcode | ibot insult anyone |
| 02:13:48 | fugalh | who is anyone? |
| 02:13:48 | HarleyBot | hmmm... anyone is nothing but a decayed coagulation of penguin-molesting poopy. |
| 02:13:51 | fugalh | seen anyone? |
| 02:13:51 | HarleyBot | I haven't seen 'anyone', fugalh |
| 02:14:21 | brailsmt | do infobots track word usage stats? |
| 02:14:22 | BZFlag | rubybot looks kinda cool. I'm not itching to learn another language at the moment though. |
| 02:14:41 | | Since Fri Jul 26 18:56:51 2002, there have been 63 modifications and 227 questions. I have been awake for 8 hours, 17 minutes, 50 seconds this session, and currently reference 83812 factoids. Addressing is in require mode. |
| 02:14:41 | BZFlag | ibot status |
| 02:14:55 | sigcode | url for rubybot? |
| 02:15:01 | BZFlag | rubybot? |
| 02:15:12 | brailsmt | rbot... www.linuxbrit.co.uk |
| 02:15:13 | BZFlag | ibot search for rubybot |
| 02:15:22 | sigcode | thx |
| 02:15:26 | brailsmt | ibot search for rbot |
| 02:15:44 | BZFlag | /msg rbot version I think that will say. |
| 02:15:54 | brailsmt | yeah |
| 02:16:30 | brailsmt | actually it is /msg rbot version? |
| 02:16:35 | brailsmt | with the '?' |
| 02:16:50 | BZFlag | ah |
| 02:17:23 | brailsmt | about the stats... if I can bring in rbot I can demostrate what i mean... |
| 02:18:00 | BZFlag | brailsmt: sure. |
| 02:18:09 | brailsmt | |track foo |
| 02:18:10 | rbot | now tracking foo |
| 02:18:13 | brailsmt | |listtokens |
| 02:18:13 | rbot | is currently keeping stats for: foo |
| 02:18:17 | brailsmt | this is foo |
| 02:18:20 | brailsmt | |stats foo |
| 02:18:20 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:18:22 | fugalh | foo bar |
| 02:18:24 | fugalh | bar foo |
| 02:18:26 | brailsmt | dangit.../// |
| 02:18:26 | BZFlag | I don't mind having rbot here from time to time. |
| 02:18:28 | brailsmt | foo |
| 02:18:32 | brailsmt | |stats foo |
| 02:18:32 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:18:41 | brailsmt | I guess I need to fix that plugin... |
| 02:18:41 | BZFlag | |stats rbot |
| 02:18:42 | rbot | rbot is not currently being tracked. |
| 02:18:48 | BZFlag | |stats run |
| 02:18:49 | rbot | run is not currently being tracked. |
| 02:18:54 | brailsmt | |listtokens |
| 02:18:55 | rbot | is currently keeping stats for: foo |
| 02:18:56 | fugalh | |track fugalh |
| 02:18:58 | rbot | now tracking fugalh |
| 02:18:58 | brailsmt | |track rbot |
| 02:18:59 | rbot | now tracking rbot |
| 02:19:01 | BZFlag | ah. |
| 02:19:06 | fugalh | |stats fugalh |
| 02:19:07 | rbot | Stats for fugalh. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:19:10 | BZFlag | rbot stats rbot |
| 02:19:11 | rbot | Stats for rbot. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:19:20 | brailsmt | but it isn't tracking them properly... I need to tweak the regex... |
| 02:19:21 | BZFlag | what an rbot rbot is. |
| 02:19:21 | fugalh | heh. well I'm off to watch a flick |
| 02:19:27 | BZFlag | rbot stats rbot |
| 02:19:28 | rbot | Stats for rbot. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:19:33 | brailsmt | anyway, that is what I was refering to... |
| 02:19:39 | BZFlag | |stats |
| 02:19:40 | rbot | What a crazy fool! Did you mean |help stats? |
| 02:19:43 | brailsmt | |part #utah |
| 02:19:49 | brailsmt | I need to fix it... |
| 02:19:51 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:20:33 | brailsmt | rbot is based on infobot |
| 02:20:56 | brailsmt | and the plugins that I have written are shamelessly ripped from moobot... :) |
| 02:21:18 | brailsmt | oh... rbot also has ruby documentation :) |
| 02:21:36 | sigcode | lets see, bots are just irc clients and quasi servers in that they listen and respond... |
| 02:21:47 | brailsmt | yes |
| 02:22:03 | sigcode | so coding a bot is a matter of coding a client that listens to others' commands and responds. |
| 02:22:52 | brailsmt | sort of, you also have to add authtentication, and spam/flood control and security |
| 02:22:59 | brailsmt | etc... |
| 02:23:15 | sigcode | k |
| 02:24:05 | BZFlag | |praise brailsmt |
| 02:24:12 | BZFlag | oh, gone. ;-) |
| 02:24:25 | brailsmt | |track :) |
| 02:24:25 | rbot | now tracking :) |
| 02:24:27 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:24:29 | BZFlag | |praise brailsmt |
| 02:24:30 | rbot | takes BZFlag's tea |
| 02:24:31 | brailsmt | |stats :) |
| 02:24:32 | rbot | Stats for :). Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:24:35 | brailsmt | dangit... |
| 02:24:37 | BZFlag | |praise brailsmt |
| 02:24:37 | rbot | gives BZFlag a Chicago Steamer |
| 02:24:41 | BZFlag | |praise brailsmt |
| 02:24:42 | rbot | smacks BZFlag in the face with a burlap sack full of broken glass |
| 02:24:51 | sigcode | oops... |
| 02:24:56 | brailsmt | hrmm.... |
| 02:25:02 | BZFlag | me thinks praise is broken too. |
| 02:25:07 | sigcode | lol rotf |
| 02:25:12 | brailsmt | dangit... |
| 02:25:17 | brailsmt | |lart bugs |
| 02:25:18 | rbot | sells bugs on E-Bay for foo |
| 02:25:29 | BZFlag | |stats foo |
| 02:25:29 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:25:37 | BZFlag | what the foo? |
| 02:25:38 | brailsmt | all in all a good showing for rbot today... |
| 02:25:43 | BZFlag | |stats foo |
| 02:25:44 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:25:49 | brailsmt | :( |
| 02:26:01 | sigcode | no no, its cool |
| 02:26:03 | BZFlag | nice bot you've got there. ;-) |
| 02:26:14 | brailsmt | seems HarleyBot needs some spam control... |
| 02:26:19 | BZFlag | |status |
| 02:26:23 | BZFlag | |help core |
| 02:26:23 | rbot | Core help topics: quit, join, part, hide, save, rescan, nick, say, action, topic, quiet, talk, version, botsnack, hello |
| 02:26:39 | BZFlag | |help hide |
| 02:26:40 | rbot | no help for topic hide |
| 02:26:46 | brailsmt | |msgri sigcode Array#each |
| 02:26:46 | sigcode | so, standard protocol for implementing a bot or whatever you want to do? |
| 02:26:47 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:26:56 | rbot | Finished telling sigcode about "ri Array#each" |
| 02:27:01 | brailsmt | you like? |
| 02:27:20 | brailsmt | rbot will tell you all about the ruby api |
| 02:27:22 | sigcode | kewl |
| 02:27:32 | BZFlag | so that part works? ;-) |
| 02:27:41 | BZFlag | |help search |
| 02:27:42 | rbot | search <string> => search google for <string> |
| 02:27:52 | BZFlag | |search BZFlag |
| 02:27:55 | rbot | BZFlag: http://www.bzflag.org/ |
| 02:28:05 | BZFlag | |search rubybot |
| 02:28:13 | rbot | rubybot: http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/21146 |
| 02:28:13 | brailsmt | the parts that aren't working are my plugins :( |
| 02:28:44 | brailsmt | its name is rbot, not rubybot... |
| 02:28:47 | brailsmt | |search rbot |
| 02:28:48 | BZFlag | search is broken in ibot cause google asked for the perl module to be removed. claimed license violation. |
| 02:28:48 | rbot | rbot: /search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&prev=/search%3Fq%3Drbot%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26sa%3DI&q=stocks:RBOT+ |
| 02:29:03 | BZFlag | heh |
| 02:29:06 | brailsmt | hrmm, a stock quote url... |
| 02:29:08 | brailsmt | interesting... |
| 02:29:09 | HarleyBot | it has been said that interesting is adj. In hacker parlance, this word has strong connotations of `annoying', or `difficult', or both. Hackers relish a challenge, and enjoy wringing all the irony possible out of the ancient Chinese curse "May you live in interesting times". Oppose trivial, uninteresting. |
| 02:29:17 | brailsmt | thank you HarleyBot |
| 02:29:33 | BZFlag | without the jargon prefix it's just too chatty. |
| 02:29:38 | BZFlag | HarleyBot: shut up |
| 02:29:38 | HarleyBot | Sorry, BZFlag, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 02:29:54 | brailsmt | haha |
| 02:30:00 | brailsmt | bot discipline |
| 02:30:03 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:30:03 | BZFlag | heh |
| 02:31:46 | BZFlag | that's actually a bug in the current infobot. I've fixed it in ibot. should still be fixed... |
| 02:31:47 | sigcode | pretty cool |
| 02:31:53 | | Sorry, BZFlag, I'll keep my mouth shut. |
| 02:31:53 | BZFlag | ibot: shut up |
| 02:32:03 | BZFlag | notice no quit. ;-) |
| 02:32:09 | sigcode | yeah |
| 02:32:12 | sigcode | kewl |
| 02:32:41 | brailsmt | |rescan |
| 02:32:41 | rbot | alright |
| 02:32:44 | brailsmt | |track :) |
| 02:32:45 | rbot | now tracking :) |
| 02:32:46 | brailsmt | :) |
| 02:32:49 | brailsmt | |stats :) |
| 02:32:49 | rbot | Stats for :). Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:32:54 | brailsmt | man... |
| 02:32:56 | | bar |
| 02:32:56 | BZFlag | ibot foo |
| 02:33:02 | BZFlag | |stats foo |
| 02:33:04 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 0 times. The top sayers are . |
| 02:33:26 | brailsmt | the rbot creator modified my plugin when he included it... apparently he broke it too... |
| 02:33:34 | brailsmt | *sigh* |
| 02:34:34 | sigcode | so, if I wanted to write my own bot from scratch (programming is an addiction for me), where could I test it out and keep etiquite? |
| 02:34:45 | brailsmt | create a channel |
| 02:35:07 | sigcode | sorry, I'm an irc noob, any tutorial urls? |
| 02:35:31 | brailsmt | type /join #<channel name> |
| 02:35:49 | brailsmt | so... /join #sigcode |
| 02:35:53 | brailsmt | will work... |
| 02:36:37 | sigcode | so channels r dynamic, someone has to hang out to keep it live? |
| 02:37:13 | brailsmt | pretty much... |
| 02:37:16 | sigcode | I think I need to reed the RFC on IRC |
| 02:40:53 | BZFlag | sigcode /msg chanserv, nickserv, memoserv, seenserv, etc. on some networks there are "services" that do this. |
| 02:41:16 | BZFlag | it's not a proper part of irc though, services are an extension. |
| 02:41:45 | sigcode | so, I just created #sigcode, can anyone join? |
| 02:41:49 | brailsmt | yeah |
| 02:43:04 | BZFlag | sigcode unless you make it private or invite only |
| 02:43:16 | sigcode | k |
| 02:48:48 | sigcode | so +o ChanServ means that ChanServ owns this channel... |
| 02:50:41 | LrnChndlr | means it is a registered channel and chanserv is a system bot that prevents takeovers |
| 02:54:11 | sigcode | thx all, gotta code. later |
| 02:54:46 | BZFlag | well, chanserv is an operator here, but /me owns the channel. |
| 03:35:56 | brailsmt | now those plugins work :) |
| 03:36:01 | brailsmt | |track :) |
| 03:36:01 | rbot | now tracking :) |
| 03:36:08 | brailsmt | |track foo |
| 03:36:09 | rbot | now tracking foo |
| 03:36:13 | brailsmt | foo :) |
| 03:36:16 | brailsmt | |stats foo |
| 03:36:16 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 1 times. The top sayers are brailsmt:1. |
| 03:36:22 | brailsmt | |stats :) |
| 03:36:22 | rbot | Stats for :). Said 1 times. The top sayers are brailsmt:1. |
| 03:38:20 | brailsmt | any mountain bikers in here? |
| 03:38:29 | brailsmt | I need someone to mtb with |
| 03:47:05 | brailsmt | BZFlag: those plugins are now fixed :) |
| 04:12:29 | BZFlag | cool. |
| 04:13:01 | BZFlag | anyone participate in the "Sponsored Advocacy" discussion at uug? |
| 04:13:18 | BZFlag | does this mean that UUG will never advocate Debian? |
| 04:13:50 | BZFlag | advocating those that pay you does not sound like good ethics to me. |
| 04:16:46 | BZFlag | |stats foo |
| 04:16:47 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 1 times. The top sayers are brailsmt:1. |
| 04:16:54 | BZFlag | foo me out! |
| 04:17:01 | BZFlag | what a foo feature |
| 04:17:04 | BZFlag | |stats foo |
| 04:17:05 | rbot | Stats for foo. Said 3 times. The top sayers are BZFlag:2, brailsmt:1. |
| 04:17:29 | BZFlag | |help stats |
| 04:17:30 | rbot | Stats: The stats plugin tracks various tokens from users in the channel. The tokens are only tracked if it is the only thing on a line. |
| 04:17:30 | rbot | Usage: stats <token> -- lists the stats for <token> |
| 04:17:31 | rbot | [un]track <token> -- Adds or deletes <token> from the list of tokens |
| 04:17:33 | rbot | listtokens -- lists the tokens that are currently being tracked |
| 04:17:37 | BZFlag | |listtokens |
| 04:17:38 | rbot | is currently keeping stats for: :) foo fugalh rbot |
| 04:17:51 | BZFlag | |track bzflag |
| 04:17:52 | rbot | now tracking bzflag |
| 04:17:56 | BZFlag | |track ibot |
| 04:17:57 | rbot | now tracking ibot |
| 04:18:13 | BZFlag | ibot++ |
| 04:18:23 | BZFlag | |karma ibot |
| 04:18:25 | rbot | karma for ibot: 1 |
| 04:18:30 | BZFlag | ibot++ |
| 04:18:32 | BZFlag | |karma ibot |
| 04:18:34 | rbot | karma for ibot: 2 |
| 04:18:42 | | ibot has karma of 12 |
| 04:18:42 | BZFlag | ibot karma ibot |
| 04:19:06 | fozzmoo | bored, BZFlag? :) |
| 04:19:21 | BZFlag | waiting for a serial transfer. ;-) |
| 04:19:25 | fozzmoo | heh heh |
| 04:19:44 | fozzmoo | goes back to watching 'Amelie' |
| 10:43:39 | Bonez39 | help..My brain has failed...having mount trouble on a floppy drive |
| 10:44:15 | Bonez39 | anyone awake? |
| 10:48:30 | Bonez39 | back later |
| 15:28:51 | Bonez39 | greetings.. |
| 15:39:30 | fugalh | gday |
| 15:39:52 | fugalh | any x/3d whiz's here? |
| 15:41:30 | Bonez39 | what's x/3d? |
| 15:42:07 | fugalh | nothing officially, XFree86 and 3D acceleration stuff - i.e. high-capability graphics in x |
| 15:42:29 | fugalh | I love flight simulators, and i found flightgear but it needs 3d acceleration |
| 15:44:21 | Bonez39 | is flightgear written for linux natively? |
| 15:45:14 | fugalh | well, uses opengl and runs on more than just linux |
| 16:43:42 | Bonez39 | anyone up now here? |
| 17:42:28 | brailsmt | any mountain bikers in here? |