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16:25.59infobottakes out a cattle prod and gives mindjuju a good jolt
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16:44.38HumanCellIs it really  a herlo birthday today?
16:45.26herloindeed it is
16:45.51HumanCellOh the benefits of technology!  Happy Birthday!
16:46.14herlo:)
16:46.17herlothanks
16:51.01josephscott~remind carmony about UPHPU topic :-)
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17:05.49HumanCelljosephscott: does the "email a post" in Wordpress support photos?  And add them to a album?
17:07.17josephscottHumanCell: I suggest the post by email in Jetpack - http://jetpack.me/support/post-by-email/
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17:09.17HumanCellNice ... thanks.  Now I want to know if I can find a slider to hook up to display the last 10 photos that have arrived that way.
17:16.15ninnypantsHumanCell: you should be able to grab the latest 10 photos pretty easily
17:16.39HumanCellHa ... I'm being lazy and don't want to write anything ...  :-)
17:16.59HumanCellI'm hoping to find a slider - I've used the Revolution Slider a lot - that will grab the last 10 from an album?
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19:02.27SunSparcinfobot: Today is Friday
19:02.27infobot...but today is already something else...
19:02.40SunSparcinfobot: You must be confused.
19:02.54ninnypants~today
19:05.09josephscott~lart this whole week
19:05.09infobotjudo chops this whole week
19:05.21ninnypantsjosephscott: glad I'm not the only one
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19:44.44*** topic/#UPHPU is UPHPU Meeting: October 17th - Real-Time Data with Redis | Utah PHP Users Group | uphpu.org
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20:14.06TuxToasterlol
20:14.10TuxToaster~rlart
20:14.11infobotwhips out a shotgun, trudges over to mindjuju, and goes postal
20:14.20TuxToaster~8ball picking on mj today?
20:14.20infobotYes.
20:17.52josephscott~8ball haters gotta hate?
20:17.52infobotI'm sure of it.
20:31.19mgearyhey ninnypants (or anyone, really), are you aware of a WP plugin that enables site searches, and provides a report of the terms that users enter?
20:32.40ninnypantsmgeary: I'm not sure if it tracks search terms, but search wp is a really good plugin for search stuff https://searchwp.com/
20:33.58mgearythanks
20:34.01mgeary"SearchWP keeps a log of searches performed on your site, keeping track of those queries that come up empty. This way you’re able to make sure the most requested content on your site is as easy to find as possible."
20:34.04mgearylooks promising
20:35.08mgearythanks
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20:42.31ninnypantsnp
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21:50.19shanemhansenI'm out of ideas. Any reason why a standard .htaccess file in a /wp/ folder doesn't seem to be doing anything?
21:50.34shanemhansenI know it's read because if I really mess it up, apache throws a 500.
21:50.36herlois htaccess support compiled into apache?
21:50.37carmonyAllowOverride None?
21:50.45shanemhansenAll static content in the server works.
21:51.04shanemhansenWould the fact apache reads the .htaccess file imply that AllowOverride is not none?
21:51.47tierra500s can happen if the file is there, but apache can't read it (check file permissions)
21:51.56tierrayou might have 600 and it needs 644
21:52.14shanemhansenI know apache reads it. 500 only happens if there is an actual error (directive in context where it's not allowed to be)
21:52.19shanemhansenso apache reads and parses it.
21:52.32shanemhansenBut somehow sends everything to the rule defined in /.htaccess
21:52.37shanemhansenWhich is our zend application.
21:52.48shanemhansenThis worked until recently and I have no  idea how I broke it.
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21:53.15shanemhansenBut rewrites work, zend application rewrites work, static files our of our wp folder work (and dynamic files like index.php)
21:53.23shanemhansenBut no pretty urls.
21:53.25tierrawhat does error.log sayu?
21:53.29shanemhansenThey just give us the zend 404 page.
21:53.51shanemhansennothing.
21:54.17shanemhansenApache has somehow decided, against my express wishes that all urls which don't match filesystem content go to the zend framework.
21:54.44shanemhansenBut I swore that .htaccess on a lower level directory would override that, and, afaik has been overriding that for some time.
21:54.47shanemhansenI don't know what changed.
21:54.48tierrashould say something... 500s are logged there with actual error messages by default unless you turned that off
21:55.01shanemhansenoh, I know where the 500's come from.
21:55.13shanemhansen"AllowOverride not allowed here"
21:55.15shanemhansenthis sort of thing.
21:55.30shanemhansenThat's not the problem, that's an error thrown by one of the like 20 things I've tried.
21:57.14shanemhansenI know it has to be some sort of site config.
21:57.19shanemhansenThe .htaccess files haven't changed.
21:57.41shanemhansenThe only thing that's changed is that all of our "stores" now use a common include file which aliases the zend framework entry point.
21:58.03shanemhansen(so they don't all need a copy of what we call "index_mvc.php")
21:58.14shanemhansenSo it has to be some sort of global config I messed up.
21:58.30shanemhansenDoes the order of <Directory> and allowoverride matter?
21:59.10shanemhansenwait!
21:59.12shanemhansenIt is my include.
22:00.24shanemhansenA file like this is causing the problem:
22:00.25shanemhansenhttps://gist.github.com/shanemhansen/7492381
22:00.27shanemhansen(scrubbed)
22:00.44shanemhansenDoes the alias directive affect rewrites in strange ways?
22:01.07shanemhansenThat include file is in every ecommerce vhost.
22:01.22shanemhansenprocess of elimination
22:03.32ninnypantsshanemhansen: is the rewrite base in your WP htaccess correct?
22:03.38shanemhansenyes.
22:03.46shanemhansenProbable cause found.
22:04.06shanemhansenThe Location directive in my host config seemed to be clobbering everything.
22:04.23shanemhansenBut the original .htaccess files for zend are still there.
22:08.25shanemhansenApparently I need to learn the precedence of rewrite rules in vhost configs vs .htaccess files and subdirectories.
22:09.06shanemhansenBut thanks for everyone's advice.
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22:11.56shanemhansenMaybe someone can point me to RTFM, but from what I've gathered this is the skinny:
22:12.19shanemhansenWhen using mod_rewrite, a/b/.htaccess trumps a/.htaccess allowing for fine grained control.
22:12.42shanemhansenBut a server config containing <Location a/> keeps a/b/.htaccess from doing anything.
22:12.46shanemhansenUnless I'm smoking crack.
22:13.36shanemhansenThe apache docs imply that some situations require rewritebase and some don't depending on whether or not your working with an alias outside the docroot.
22:13.49shanemhansenI did have an alias outsite the docroot, but that wasn't the rewrite that was failing.
22:14.05shanemhansenI'm going to stop regurgitating now.
22:20.05shanemhansenyeah, I'm done.
22:20.10shanemhansenor maybe I'm not.
22:20.14shanemhansenIt's been a rough day.
22:20.43shanemhansenpro-tip memcached does not speed up your servers if the firewall doesn't allow one webapp to connect to another and instead there is like a 30s timeout.
22:29.12josephscottI think that is the method for making your caching layer super slow ;-)
22:31.55shanemhansenjust fyi
22:31.55shanemhansenFun thing is that we made our site about 25% faster.
22:32.06shanemhansenTurns out shoveling bytes to people takes a long time.
22:32.16shanemhansenI guess that's a good position to be in.
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23:31.08josephscottwow, I think this business might have perfected the shakedown approach - http://www.kutv.com/news/features/gephardt/stories/vid_474.shtml
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