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| 13:52.30 | mindjuju | ~apb PoeticIntensity |
| 13:52.30 | ibot | ACTION calls Duane Lee to rough up PoeticIntensity |
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| 14:34.03 | mindjuju | it's like watching a train smash into a yugo |
| 14:34.16 | mindjuju | train = http://www.thenorthwestern.com/article/20121016/OSH04/310160091/Apple-expected-unveil-new-iPad-next-week?odyssey=nav%7Chead |
| 14:34.26 | mindjuju | yugo = http://www.zdnet.com/microsoft-reveals-surface-pricing-7000005856/ |
| 14:35.41 | mindjuju | for some reason i want to say that i heard they either reveal or take preorders on the 20th |
| 14:36.22 | mindjuju | ipad mini that is |
| 14:38.02 | romanovic | anyone know if any linux tablets are coming in the near future? |
| 14:38.19 | romanovic | Ubuntu based maybe? |
| 14:38.20 | mindjuju | sure! |
| 14:38.34 | mindjuju | http://zareason.com/shop/home.php?cat= |
| 14:40.34 | mindjuju | i met the guy at UTOSC 2012, nice guy |
| 14:40.42 | mindjuju | his kid and mine played miencraft all day |
| 14:40.59 | romanovic | mindjuju: nice! I was looking at another product on their site last week, didn't realise they had a tablet too |
| 14:42.25 | mindjuju | all their gear too, is linux friendly |
| 14:42.29 | mindjuju | web cams, etc |
| 14:42.42 | mindjuju | as far as i remember |
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| 14:47.41 | mindjuju | i keep asking myself: if i was balmer, what woudl i do different? |
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| 15:03.23 | unum | buy sturdier chairs? |
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| 16:16.11 | PoeticIntensity | wassup, mindjuju ? |
| 16:16.47 | DexterTheDragon | ~dtdhit PoeticIntensity |
| 16:16.47 | ibot | ACTION stikes at PoeticIntensity with the ruinous sun scratch knocking off an appendage! |
| 16:17.28 | PoeticIntensity | I liked that appendage! |
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| 16:55.14 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
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| 17:19.09 | ninnypants | https://lockitron.com/preorder |
| 17:19.35 | ninnypants | I think I may have posted that before actually |
| 17:32.31 | fridgesm | what's the meeting topic this week? |
| 17:33.50 | SunSparc | ~topic fridgesm |
| 17:33.54 | TuxToaster | fridgesm: last I saw it's something to do with VCS |
| 17:34.08 | TuxToaster | but they were going to bring a few ideas and let people decide which one they wanted to hear. |
| 17:34.25 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: still think it's ugly |
| 17:34.32 | SunSparc | That was suggested, but I think that may be for another month. |
| 17:34.42 | TuxToaster | IMO a Kwikset or Schlage and a Z-wave controller is the way to go |
| 17:35.38 | TuxToaster | you can use something like Vivint to do the control from outside of the house, or there are plenty of interfaces to the Vera controllers as well |
| 17:36.04 | SunSparc | http://www.vivint.com/products/catalog/automatic-door-locks |
| 17:40.44 | TuxToaster | they work well |
| 17:40.55 | TuxToaster | my main complaint is you can only do a doorknob or a deadbolt |
| 17:41.02 | TuxToaster | haven't found a good solution for doing both |
| 17:41.19 | TuxToaster | so unlocking the door is useless if you have the knob manually locked |
| 17:42.02 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: links? |
| 17:42.14 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: for? |
| 17:42.16 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:42.29 | TuxToaster | the one SunSparc linked would be the Kwikiset |
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| 17:43.10 | ninnypants | ahh well the vivint encoding is off so I'm not sure I trust it ;) |
| 17:43.21 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 17:43.34 | TuxToaster | you're starting to sound like josephscott |
| 17:44.02 | ninnypants | nah though I'm not sure I've ever seen badly encoded dashes before |
| 17:44.23 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: what page are you seeing the encoding on? |
| 17:44.27 | DexterTheDragon | my condo has something like that Kwikiset deadbolt. was nice unless the knob was locked too |
| 17:44.39 | TuxToaster | DexterTheDragon: exactly |
| 17:44.45 | TuxToaster | I'd love to see a combo lock |
| 17:44.50 | ninnypants | the one SunSparc linked in the overview |
| 17:44.53 | TuxToaster | or at least a smaller z-wave only lock without the keypad |
| 17:45.07 | TuxToaster | aha, now I see the encoding |
| 17:45.31 | DexterTheDragon | I bought a lockitron tho :D |
| 17:46.28 | TuxToaster | DexterTheDragon: they looked like someone slapped an iPhone case on a door |
| 17:46.39 | TuxToaster | I'd like the idea if they made them look better |
| 17:47.11 | ninnypants | DexterTheDragon: I did too |
| 17:47.34 | DexterTheDragon | I don't look at the inside of my door often enough to care |
| 17:47.42 | TuxToaster | nice catch ninnypants |
| 17:47.46 | TuxToaster | ~ninnypants++ |
| 17:47.52 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: I try ;) |
| 17:48.16 | TuxToaster | easy fix too. |
| 17:51.04 | TuxToaster | the advantage to using a Z-wave or similar lock and network is that you can do more than just the lock from one place |
| 17:51.21 | TuxToaster | though I'd venture with the right controller you could have it hit an API or something to unlock the door |
| 17:52.15 | TuxToaster | for me being able to say "when someone unlocks the front door with their code, turn on these lights" is pretty freaking cool. |
| 18:02.39 | SunSparc | It would be sweet it the app would check your location and if you are within 20 meters of the house, unlock the door for you and turn the lights on. Similarly, if you leave and forgot to lock up, take care of it, unless someone else is still home. |
| 18:03.51 | SunSparc | Of course, I also want to be able to walk up to the mini food replicator in the wall and say, "Tea, Earl Gray, hot" and have it appear. |
| 18:17.24 | josephscott | javascript political humor http://www.romneytaxplan.com/ |
| 18:23.48 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: the lockitron is capable of sensing the bluetooth on your phone and unlocking when you walk up |
| 18:25.28 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Nice. |
| 18:25.48 | SunSparc | josephscott: Cute little shy button. |
| 18:28.19 | Bikerdan | Did Romney say that he was going to cut taxes by 5 trillion dollars? |
| 18:46.17 | ninnypants | I think the tax credits he proposed would lose 5T in tax income or something like that |
| 18:48.00 | Bikerdan | So, if that's true, the real question is whether those tax cuts will generate enough of a positive economic turn-around to over compensate for that loss of tax revenue... |
| 18:48.22 | mindjuju | tee hee hee, that funny |
| 18:48.33 | Bikerdan | ? |
| 18:49.02 | Bikerdan | explain? |
| 18:49.14 | mindjuju | so Bikerdan, i'm just curious here |
| 18:49.19 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: I think so the main question I've been hearing asked is "how are you going to make up the loss?" etc |
| 18:49.26 | mindjuju | and this isn't pointed at you at all, it's pointed in general |
| 18:49.33 | mindjuju | at politics, the current structure and lobbyists |
| 18:50.08 | mindjuju | but let us suppose that in 2k8 when Barrack made his campaign promises, he REALLY had intended to do them |
| 18:50.33 | mindjuju | he had a democrat congress at his back everything going in the right direction |
| 18:50.44 | mindjuju | many things didn't happen |
| 18:51.00 | mindjuju | so then comes the question: why? |
| 18:51.27 | mindjuju | and the answer to that question cross applies to romney if he wins, me thinks |
| 18:52.00 | Bikerdan | I agree... but what does that have to do with what we're talking about? |
| 18:52.18 | mindjuju | variance is minimal and we're headed down the same path |
| 18:52.29 | Bikerdan | So I should go vote for Obama? |
| 18:52.34 | Bikerdan | Doesn't make a difference? |
| 18:52.41 | mindjuju | i'm not sure that it does |
| 18:53.05 | Bikerdan | Presidents still have the ability to make executive orders. |
| 18:53.13 | Bikerdan | And make critical military decisions. |
| 18:53.23 | Bikerdan | So I'm pretty sure it does make a difference. |
| 18:53.56 | mindjuju | i guess what i'm saying is, we lost control of the country a long time ago |
| 18:54.07 | Bikerdan | I would agree with that as we.. |
| 18:54.09 | Bikerdan | well. |
| 18:54.21 | mindjuju | between lobbyist, MIC, mega corporations |
| 18:54.30 | ninnypants | MIC? |
| 18:54.50 | ninnypants | ahh |
| 18:55.11 | ninnypants | don't forget that mega corps are people now too |
| 18:55.15 | mindjuju | yeah |
| 18:55.17 | mindjuju | true that |
| 18:55.20 | Bikerdan | I don't think that the actions taken by a president will necessarily be able to turn things around overnight. |
| 18:55.38 | ninnypants | I'm such good friends with WalMart we talk all the time |
| 18:56.28 | ninnypants | Bikerdan: definitely not. It seems more like choosing the lesser evil |
| 18:56.45 | mindjuju | so let me just throw this out there |
| 18:56.52 | fungus | mindjuju, I wholly agree with you. A vote for president should focus on policies the president can affect. Eg. Foreign policy, military, etc. |
| 18:56.53 | mindjuju | what is the greater risk: |
| 18:57.37 | mindjuju | 1. a strong military at the cost of being indentured to China since they are footing the bill or, 2. a reduced military and pay to get out of debt with china |
| 18:58.50 | Bikerdan | Are those the only two options? |
| 18:58.51 | mindjuju | i mean realsitically, we can big bird is only using so much money and pails in comparison to other things we spend money on, i think the whole budget needs a strong review |
| 18:59.02 | mindjuju | Bikerdan, are there others? |
| 18:59.06 | fungus | That is a tuff decision. Though accurately weighing the risks of reduced military is critical to making that decision. |
| 18:59.27 | mindjuju | fungus, totally agree |
| 18:59.48 | Bikerdan | Can't we support a strong military without relying on china? We've done it before. |
| 19:00.01 | Bikerdan | It all has to do with the strength of the economy. |
| 19:00.08 | mindjuju | the probably is evident though, we spend more on our military than most conutries combined; and the reality of the matter is, we can't afford it |
| 19:00.13 | Bikerdan | If we can figure that out, we've solved the problem. |
| 19:00.34 | Bikerdan | Agreed. |
| 19:00.45 | Bikerdan | That is our problem now. |
| 19:01.14 | Bikerdan | I just don't think that we should assume that that is our only option. |
| 19:01.33 | Bikerdan | Or that is how things will always have to be. |
| 19:01.36 | fungus | Bikerdan, then why did we continue to have extreme deficits when our country had an extremely thriving economy. |
| 19:02.03 | Bikerdan | Democrats. |
| 19:02.06 | Bikerdan | Just kidding. |
| 19:02.07 | fungus | lol |
| 19:02.11 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 19:02.22 | mindjuju | i wish i could remember who said it, but it is something like: It isn't in the property of soil to raise good soliders and good fruits |
| 19:02.34 | mindjuju | it's amazing how warlike as a society we've become |
| 19:02.35 | Bikerdan | I'm not sure our economy was as strong as you might have thought it was. |
| 19:03.09 | fungus | Our deficits have nearly always increased heavily in times of war. Hence mindjuju's linking of debt to military spending. |
| 19:03.24 | mindjuju | yup |
| 19:03.27 | Bikerdan | Agreed. |
| 19:03.58 | Bikerdan | It's one of those things that you just can't live without... If it takes putting it on the old AMEX then so be it. |
| 19:04.21 | Bikerdan | But with a strong enough economy we might have more options. |
| 19:04.32 | fungus | Are you sure we can't live without such an extreme military? All other countries do. |
| 19:04.48 | mindjuju | so Bikerdan, let's follow the logic on your idea |
| 19:04.51 | Bikerdan | You mean the ones that get wiped out in world wars? |
| 19:05.15 | mindjuju | stronger economy = stronger army = requires more money = need stronger economy for even stronger army; repeat |
| 19:05.18 | fungus | Bikerdan, the strength of the economy has little to do w/ our income/spending ratios |
| 19:05.40 | Bikerdan | It has a lot to do with our income... not so much spending. |
| 19:06.01 | mindjuju | dave ramsey and half the financial consultants that preach debt reduction would disagree |
| 19:06.04 | Bikerdan | I'm not saying we can't adjust our ratios. |
| 19:06.09 | mindjuju | you've got to cut back to fit within your means |
| 19:06.17 | fungus | Bikerdan, but stronger economies also affect the spending half of the equation. |
| 19:06.19 | mindjuju | you don't just keep spending or chasing your tial to make the $$ |
| 19:06.22 | Bikerdan | But that's not the only direction of attack. |
| 19:06.47 | Bikerdan | They also say make more money if you can. |
| 19:07.06 | Bikerdan | fungus: Explain. |
| 19:07.08 | fungus | Did you miss what mindjuju said about our spending is more than the combined spending of other countries. |
| 19:07.17 | fungus | Including countries that have existing for much longer than the US |
| 19:07.18 | Bikerdan | I don't disagree with that. |
| 19:07.22 | macnewbold | tierra: following up on yesterday's discussion, are you on for thursday? |
| 19:07.37 | tierra | macnewbold: yeah |
| 19:08.46 | fungus | We could reduce military spending while still remaining safe. Finding the right balance is difficult however. |
| 19:08.57 | Bikerdan | I also agree with that. |
| 19:09.27 | Bikerdan | But I do believe we should keep a strong military. |
| 19:09.56 | mindjuju | maybe we should quantify that, what does "strong military" mean |
| 19:10.04 | DexterTheDragon | even the actual military wants to stop spending http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/09/army-to-congress-thanks-but-no-tanks/ |
| 19:10.05 | Bikerdan | Competitive... |
| 19:10.33 | mindjuju | what is more competitive than a billion thermo-nuclear warheads? |
| 19:10.54 | Bikerdan | Is that what we have? |
| 19:10.59 | mindjuju | well, i guess i answered my own question: 2 billion |
| 19:11.07 | mindjuju | but really do we need 2 billion? |
| 19:11.13 | macnewbold | tierra: do you have a preferred title for the announcement? |
| 19:11.16 | Bikerdan | Is that what we have? |
| 19:11.51 | mindjuju | we do have thermo-nuclear warheads, i don't know how many, but it was said during the 80s that there were enough to destroy like 90% of the earth |
| 19:12.01 | mindjuju | if the soviets and the US launched |
| 19:12.16 | Bikerdan | If we already have them it's a mute point. |
| 19:12.23 | Bikerdan | I wouldn't recommend selling them. |
| 19:12.25 | tierra | macnewbold: not really... |
| 19:12.39 | Bikerdan | I wouldn't recommend making more. |
| 19:12.55 | Bikerdan | moot |
| 19:13.17 | TuxToaster | "Tierra's Tirade on Tried and Tested VCS Technologies" ? |
| 19:13.23 | macnewbold | haha |
| 19:13.38 | TuxToaster | if only VCS started with a T |
| 19:13.40 | tierra | heh |
| 19:13.45 | mindjuju | Bikerdan, to be honest, i know who i'm goign to vote for but he never won my vote |
| 19:13.49 | mindjuju | i'm settling and i'm sad |
| 19:13.56 | tierra | TuxToaster: "tracking" |
| 19:14.02 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: pedro? ;-) |
| 19:14.06 | Bikerdan | What would win you over? |
| 19:14.08 | mindjuju | word |
| 19:14.22 | mindjuju | i just don't believe that he believes what he says |
| 19:14.43 | Bikerdan | Believes it? |
| 19:14.49 | Bikerdan | Or will follow through with it? |
| 19:14.58 | mindjuju | either |
| 19:15.27 | mindjuju | and thus we come full circle to Obama |
| 19:15.31 | Bikerdan | Why don't you think that he believes it? |
| 19:15.52 | mindjuju | didn't he believe? did he want to and just couldn't? what stopped him? |
| 19:16.20 | mindjuju | i want to believe that he meant well, and despite pelosi comment that they were just camapaign promises, i want to think he intended to do those things |
| 19:17.00 | tierra | you know, in the world of open source software, we're required to submit fully implemented patches before they are accepted upstream... would be nice if presidential candidates were required to submit similar, detailed proposals on changes before being elected |
| 19:17.04 | mahelious | mindjuju: the difference between a starry-eyed congressman from Chicago and actually assuming the seat of power |
| 19:17.09 | mindjuju | i think we've got a much bigger problem on our hands: we've lost control of our government and it no longer works like it used to |
| 19:17.14 | tierra | :) |
| 19:17.32 | mindjuju | tierra, man i've been waiting for that |
| 19:17.43 | tierra | I guess technically, that wasn't even specific to open source, that's any software |
| 19:17.44 | mindjuju | a firmly worded platform of this is exactly what i want to do |
| 19:17.47 | mahelious | tierra: aye |
| 19:20.25 | macnewbold | tierra: part of the problem is that i wouldn't expect someone without the full resources and authority of the office to be able to do all the necessary research, negotiations, etc, to come up with the best solution |
| 19:20.49 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: you could always vote for Gary Johnson |
| 19:21.28 | macnewbold | for someone who _has_ the office, I _do_ expect that they would have done that, but for someone who doesn't have the office, imho they should recognize the problems, have good ideas for solving them, and a track record for being able to solve issues in the past |
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| 19:23.36 | ninnypants | mindjuju: thoughts on the current two party system ;p |
| 19:24.21 | mindjuju | ninnypants, there aren't 2 parties |
| 19:24.27 | mindjuju | just 2 sides to the same party |
| 19:25.12 | Lone_Wanderer_ | I've pretty much decided that the single most important facing the world right now is American campaign finance reform. |
| 19:25.21 | Lone_Wanderer_ | single most important issue |
| 19:25.23 | ninnypants | and the effects of those two sides? |
| 19:25.31 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/140634 |
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| 19:26.14 | Lone_Wanderer_ | because it affects everything else negatively, and until the problems it causes are solved we're going to have a hell of a time getting anything else meaningful done. |
| 19:26.36 | mindjuju | i've decided that i'm going to write in SunSparc |
| 19:27.18 | ninnypants | Lone_Wanderer_: very true |
| 19:27.36 | mindjuju | true that Lone_Wanderer_ |
| 19:28.22 | ninnypants | I think the size of bills and not being able to hold law makes accountable for what they put into them |
| 19:28.42 | ninnypants | unless there is a good reference on who wrote what parts of the bills that are being voted on |
| 19:29.22 | Lone_Wanderer_ | Yeah, that's a good point. The lawmaking process is entirely too opaque. |
| 19:29.55 | SunSparc | ~lart Qwest/Centurlink for the Internet outage they just put me through |
| 19:29.55 | ibot | pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Qwest/Centurlink for the Internet outage they just put me through |
| 19:30.10 | Bikerdan | What I love is when Congress makes laws and then exempts themselves from them. |
| 19:30.50 | ninnypants | yeah I've heard it mentioned before and think it's a good idea but something like GitHub for bills would be really nice. Public additions and deletions with public voting on pull requests and things like that. |
| 19:31.04 | ninnypants | not public as in citizens but publicly visible |
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| 19:31.18 | SunSparc | mindjuju: hehe, that would be as effective as my writing in Kenobi. :) But I am actually planning on writing in Ron Paul. |
| 19:32.28 | DexterTheDragon | Ron Paul should have run on the Libertarian Party |
| 19:32.29 | mindjuju | DtD, i looked at your link and i think i'm going to register for president next election |
| 19:32.59 | mahelious | SunSparc: don't waste your vote. write in Stephen Colbert! |
| 19:33.23 | mindjuju | i think i'll call it the technologist party, we'll outlaw MPAA and RIAA and force congress to do our bidding when we invoke sudo |
| 19:34.32 | josephscott | sudo "pass my bill" |
| 19:35.01 | mindjuju | yup, exactly |
| 19:35.20 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: He tried that. |
| 19:35.34 | SunSparc | mahelious: lol, that might not be a bad idea :) |
| 19:35.41 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: you mean in 1988? |
| 19:35.55 | SunSparc | mindjuju: sudo congress! Awesome |
| 19:36.21 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Yeah, whenever it was. |
| 19:36.27 | mindjuju | :) |
| 19:36.34 | mindjuju | oh well, better get back to work |
| 19:36.46 | DexterTheDragon | SunSparc: yeah, but it's not like running republican did much better |
| 19:37.06 | DexterTheDragon | I think being in the GOP debates was good publicity for him |
| 19:37.16 | DexterTheDragon | but I think he needs to run third party now |
| 19:39.00 | SunSparc | DexterTheDragon: Agreed. Though I hear he is done with politics. |
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| 20:20.35 | itimber | woops |
| 20:29.37 | SunSparc | ~join itimber |
| 20:30.45 | itimber | oh? |
| 20:30.53 | itimber | ~join #jquery |
| 20:31.14 | itimber | ibot just said: I am not allowed to join #jquery. |
| 20:31.27 | SunSparc | She does not trust you. |
| 20:31.30 | itimber | yet, if you click the #jquery link, it loads that room |
| 20:31.30 | SunSparc | ;) |
| 20:31.36 | itimber | haha |
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| 20:32.16 | itimber | oh |
| 20:32.37 | itimber | here I thought you were kidding about her not trusting me |
| 20:32.41 | SunSparc | Which I do not have either. :) |
| 20:32.51 | itimber | :( |
| 20:33.03 | SunSparc | Kid? Me? |
| 20:33.05 | SunSparc | :) |
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| 21:53.02 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: yeah, that pic is what happens when I get bored on Saturday mornings. |
| 21:53.54 | SunSparc | lol, might be a good Halloween costume. Freak some kids out. |
| 21:53.59 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:54.05 | TuxToaster | ideas |
| 21:54.50 | SunSparc | If you want to adjust the image any more, consider turning the human feet into green webbed fins with claws or something. :) |
| 21:55.08 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:55.31 | TuxToaster | well on the costume idea you could just put that over your head and throw eggs at people |
| 21:55.36 | TuxToaster | and when asked, tell them you're Birdo |
| 21:55.42 | SunSparc | lol |
| 21:55.54 | SunSparc | If they even ask. |
| 21:56.07 | TuxToaster | well, I was thinking more when you get arrested. |
| 21:56.24 | TuxToaster | even then, probably not much asking left to do. |
| 21:56.28 | SunSparc | HAHA! Right, that makes more sense. |
| 22:01.21 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 22:01.22 | raifbot | blasts fridgesm with a huge firehose then strangles fridgesm with it. |
| 22:01.48 | TuxToaster | $8ball that's twice in two days that raifbot has strangled fridgesm with something. Coincidence? |
| 22:01.48 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Ask again later. |
| 22:01.52 | TuxToaster | ... |
| 22:02.08 | TuxToaster | $8ball is "later" after you've done it for a third time? |
| 22:02.08 | raifbot | TuxToaster - You may rely on it. |
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| 22:12.40 | fridgesm | ** Packs the Samsonite and runs for the hills! ** |
| 22:27.33 | TuxToaster | haha |
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| 22:58.32 | mgeary | okay, folks, anyone got any great birthday ideas for wives? |
| 23:00.03 | TuxToaster | heh, that's always a fun area that depends on the person |
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| 23:02.17 | mindjuju | you know mgeary, i remember talking about this very issue with you before |
| 23:02.24 | SunSparc | mgeary: Interesting, I have the same question on only days to answer it. |
| 23:02.25 | mindjuju | seems like you got her ballet tickets |
| 23:02.32 | mindjuju | or maybe symphony |
| 23:02.33 | mgeary | i did |
| 23:02.40 | mindjuju | how did that go? |
| 23:03.14 | mgeary | it was alright, but looking for something else this time around. i've gotten her something, but i'm pretty lukewarm on it |
| 23:03.27 | mgeary | and i'm okay taking a break from Ballet West for a year or two |
| 23:03.47 | mindjuju | i guess what i'm more meaning, if is that her cup of tea |
| 23:03.52 | mgeary | doesn't want clothes, isn't really into jewelry |
| 23:03.58 | mgeary | she does like power tools…. |
| 23:04.14 | mgeary | she's very crafty, but hasn't had/made time for that lately |
| 23:05.21 | mindjuju | crafty as in handicrafts or crafty as in wood projects |
| 23:05.26 | mindjuju | refinish furniture, etc? |
| 23:05.26 | mgeary | both |
| 23:05.29 | mgeary | well |
| 23:05.32 | mgeary | not so much refinishing |
| 23:05.52 | mgeary | but she's got a few different power saws, drills, |
| 23:05.56 | mindjuju | do you have space to give her a workshop? her own space for different things? |
| 23:06.41 | mgeary | she's got a craft room, but she doesn't spend too much time there |
| 23:08.07 | mindjuju | so mgeary, is she a travel kind of person? |
| 23:08.17 | mgeary | yes. travel is good |
| 23:08.48 | mindjuju | hmm, but young kiddos in the house... is it feasible to take off for the weekend to Colorado or something? |
| 23:08.55 | mgeary | though we just got back from a week in San Diego |
| 23:08.59 | mindjuju | ah |
| 23:09.09 | mgeary | that's kind of why we went -- we have 2 birthdays within a week in October |
| 23:09.20 | mgeary | so we like to get away for Fall break and call it a vacation trip |
| 23:09.30 | mgeary | call it a *birthday trip |
| 23:10.00 | mindjuju | how soon is bday? |
| 23:10.06 | mindjuju | couple days? couple weeks? |
| 23:10.17 | mgeary | already past, but we just got back into town last night |
| 23:10.24 | mgeary | so i haven't given presents yet |
| 23:12.39 | mindjuju | you know, from what you've said, it sounds like she's a very active person |
| 23:14.37 | mgeary | for the most part, yes |
| 23:14.46 | mgeary | though i've tried unsuccessfully to get her excited about skiing |
| 23:15.47 | mindjuju | what about a nice camera? |
| 23:15.54 | mindjuju | like digital SLR kind |
| 23:16.01 | mindjuju | canon or nikon |
| 23:16.34 | mgeary | she's got one |
| 23:16.41 | mgeary | from her dad last year :S |
| 23:16.43 | SunSparc | How about a bag of her favorite bonbons? |
| 23:17.00 | mgeary | she's trying to lose weight, so high-sugar stuff is a no-no |
| 23:17.06 | mindjuju | heh |
| 23:17.07 | fungus | Best gift idea ever: Think of the thing you most want for your self. Give her one. ;) |
| 23:17.17 | SunSparc | :D |
| 23:17.18 | mindjuju | heh |
| 23:17.35 | SunSparc | Here honey, I got you this sweet new router. |
| 23:17.45 | fungus | exactly! |
| 23:18.03 | fungus | Then you both win. |
| 23:18.07 | SunSparc | I have heard that does not actually go over very well. ;) |
| 23:18.22 | fungus | bah, what do you know? |
| 23:18.25 | mgeary | well, in this case that would work brilliantly |
| 23:18.26 | SunSparc | lol |
| 23:18.33 | SunSparc | fungus: so true |
| 23:18.43 | mgeary | but i don't have $300k for a nice apartment in Cologne, Germany ;) |
| 23:18.45 | fungus | oh yeah, you are actually married. I'm not. hmm... |
| 23:18.54 | SunSparc | heh |
| 23:19.27 | SunSparc | mgeary: You could just give her a high five and tell her she has been a great team member so far and thanks for all the hard work this past year. |
| 23:19.34 | mindjuju | you know mgeary, it seems like thanksgiving point has Art classes |
| 23:19.42 | mindjuju | or perhaps you can take a dance class together |
| 23:19.46 | mindjuju | swing perhaps? |
| 23:20.07 | SunSparc | Or Karaoke. |
| 23:20.31 | SunSparc | My wife would probably dig the swing class... |
| 23:28.25 | mindjuju | hope that helps mgeary, got to split but i'll be back online in about 30 min |