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| 14:21.18 | Lone_Wanderer | So, if I want to listen to some sort of randomized playlist of programming-friendly techno, but I don't want to build it myself, and I don't want to have to install music software (which would be required for something like Bluemars or Groove Salad, iirc) |
| 14:21.22 | Lone_Wanderer | where might I turn? |
| 14:22.43 | mindjuju__ | shoutcast.com, search for ravetrax.com or digitally imported breaks |
| 14:23.13 | Lone_Wanderer | awesome, thanks |
| 14:23.23 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot, mindjuju is the music master |
| 14:23.23 | ibot | ...but mindjuju is already something else... |
| 14:23.31 | Lone_Wanderer | ibot, mindjuju is also the music master |
| 14:23.31 | ibot | Lone_Wanderer: okay |
| 14:23.41 | mindjuju__ | yup, if breaks to hard, look for other DI techno styles |
| 14:23.52 | mindjuju__ | they have goa - psy, progressive , everything |
| 14:23.53 | Lone_Wanderer | NOTHING breaks too hard |
| 14:24.01 | mindjuju__ | :) |
| 14:24.04 | Lone_Wanderer | This is The Lone you're talking to. |
| 14:25.02 | mindjuju__ | :) |
| 14:25.37 | Lone_Wanderer | What's cydia? |
| 14:25.46 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm learning why I don't like M. |
| 14:26.08 | mindjuju__ | when you jailbreak an iphone you can use cydia as an alternative to apple app store |
| 14:26.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Correction, learning why I don't like MUMPS, which is apparently (incorrectly) called M sometimes. |
| 14:26.31 | mindjuju__ | we're investigating if it makes a reasonable distribution platform for an internal only app |
| 14:27.02 | Lone_Wanderer | ah, cool |
| 14:27.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Hey, has anyone seen datawolf recently? |
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| 14:27.37 | mindjuju__ | dataw0lf has become stderr |
| 14:28.01 | mindjuju__ | he's not on here so much but posts some great pictures of his little girl on FB |
| 14:28.12 | Lone_Wanderer | ah, right |
| 14:28.17 | mindjuju__ | and occassionally pipes in on grilling tips |
| 14:28.19 | Lone_Wanderer | how old is she? |
| 14:28.27 | mindjuju__ | i think 2 now |
| 14:28.27 | Lone_Wanderer | I should make sure I've got him on FB |
| 14:28.30 | Lone_Wanderer | man |
| 14:28.49 | Lone_Wanderer | I wonder if he's given up some of his wild ways now that he's spawned a child process. |
| 14:29.29 | mindjuju__ | ah yes |
| 14:29.35 | mindjuju__ | i was trying to place that movie quote |
| 14:29.41 | mindjuju__ | oh brother, love that movie |
| 14:30.25 | Lone_Wanderer | I didn't intend for it to end up as a quote |
| 14:30.33 | Lone_Wanderer | she just doesn't want kids, and I do |
| 14:30.47 | mindjuju__ | hmm01 |
| 14:30.52 | Lone_Wanderer | Indeed. |
| 14:31.00 | mindjuju__ | ever, or just now? |
| 14:31.03 | Lone_Wanderer | Ever. |
| 14:31.12 | mindjuju__ | hmm |
| 14:31.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Indeed. |
| 14:31.46 | mindjuju__ | how important is it to you? |
| 14:31.59 | Lone_Wanderer | That's what I'm figuring out right now. |
| 14:32.13 | Lone_Wanderer | She is very important to me. |
| 14:32.35 | Lone_Wanderer | So it's not as easy a decision as I would have thought it would be, at one time. |
| 14:32.43 | mindjuju__ | yup |
| 14:32.45 | Lone_Wanderer | Ah well, we shall see. |
| 14:32.50 | Lone_Wanderer | How have you been? |
| 14:32.58 | mindjuju__ | doing really well |
| 14:33.15 | mindjuju__ | back in school, though my education isn't nearly as robust as yours |
| 14:33.34 | mindjuju__ | but it is local and it is cheap and it is on the way to work |
| 14:33.37 | Lone_Wanderer | Ah, cool. |
| 14:33.43 | Lone_Wanderer | That's perfect then. |
| 14:33.54 | mindjuju__ | yeah, it fits in nicely for now |
| 14:34.07 | Lone_Wanderer | Honestly, I've started to kind of question how much the education here gives beyond the name and the cool professors. |
| 14:34.11 | mindjuju__ | and it does fill in some of the gaps, or at least provides the occassion for me to do so |
| 14:34.49 | Lone_Wanderer | I took a class on data visualization last semester. I was disappointed. |
| 14:34.56 | Lone_Wanderer | Quite disappointed. |
| 14:35.26 | mindjuju__ | how far is MIT from where you are? |
| 14:35.36 | Lone_Wanderer | The description talked about how we're awash in all kinds of data and how understanding it is more than half the battle, and how visualizations of data can help us understand it better |
| 14:35.54 | Lone_Wanderer | it gave examples like scientific, financial, medical/genetic, etc. |
| 14:36.02 | Lone_Wanderer | (one sec, I'm complaining) |
| 14:36.03 | Lone_Wanderer | ;) |
| 14:36.15 | mindjuju__ | :) |
| 14:36.36 | mindjuju__ | 8minutes btw |
| 14:36.39 | Lone_Wanderer | in class we did visualizations on things like pancake recipes, where our cats spent most of their time during the day, and what the most popular Google search terms were |
| 14:37.07 | Lone_Wanderer | well, the T stop that I get off at for work is called Kendall/MIT, and I walk about two blocks |
| 14:37.46 | Lone_Wanderer | and that's about three stops (I think... Kendall, Central, Harvard, Porter...) from where I live. |
| 14:38.01 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm about a ten minute walk from Porter, and about a 20 minute walk from Harvard |
| 14:38.17 | mindjuju__ | i didn't realize they were so close to each other |
| 14:38.43 | Lone_Wanderer | oh yeah, they're really close |
| 14:38.58 | Lone_Wanderer | they considered merging a long time ago and rejected it for some reason I don't remember |
| 14:38.59 | mindjuju__ | so what were you looking for in a data visualization class? |
| 14:39.13 | Lone_Wanderer | well, at the time I was working at an oilfield services company |
| 14:39.27 | Lone_Wanderer | which, by the way, is a lot cooler and high-tech than I used to think |
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| 14:39.49 | Lone_Wanderer | (Granted I was in the R&D building, which is about a block from MIT and hires some of the smartest people in the world, but *anyway*) |
| 14:40.09 | Lone_Wanderer | so I was thinking, maybe for a class project I can get some oil well data or something and make a visualization to help someone out |
| 14:40.30 | Lone_Wanderer | or take network traffic data and make a visualization for that (there was some traffic on the email list about it, before the idea got shot down) |
| 14:41.04 | mindjuju__ | you know who might be a good source of info on that is John Taber |
| 14:41.12 | mindjuju__ | do you know him? |
| 14:41.16 | Lone_Wanderer | You know, something useful. Instead we did Google search terms over time. It was little more than a toy. |
| 14:41.20 | Lone_Wanderer | I don't, no. |
| 14:41.45 | mindjuju__ | John got his Ph.D from princeton i think but i think his undergrad is from harvard |
| 14:41.52 | mindjuju__ | smart smart man |
| 14:41.56 | Lone_Wanderer | awesome |
| 14:42.36 | Lone_Wanderer | Cornell maybe? johntaber.com |
| 14:42.54 | mindjuju__ | nope, not him |
| 14:42.54 | Lone_Wanderer | Oh wait, that's an econ guy apparently. |
| 14:43.59 | mindjuju__ | i'll find his info and send it your way |
| 14:44.11 | Lone_Wanderer | It's actually kind of cool that I can make a pretty decent DB with about 200 lines of code or so, but even so this language is a PITA |
| 14:44.14 | Lone_Wanderer | thanks :D |
| 14:44.39 | mindjuju__ | but was working on traffic analysis , i remember him talking about collecting huge sums of data articulating it as needed |
| 14:47.07 | mindjuju__ | Lone_Wanderer, what language are you making the db out of? |
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| 14:49.02 | mindjuju__ | james, please review timecard and let me know of any changes so i can get it in before 9a |
| 14:50.01 | mindjuju__ | no wonder he's not responding, wrong win |
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| 14:50.27 | supernovia | :) |
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| 15:00.15 | Lone_Wanderer | mindjuju: Cache, but the language we use is based on MUMPS, which is older than C |
| 15:00.33 | Lone_Wanderer | older, but.... significantly less awesome |
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| 15:04.52 | mindjuju | oh gotcha |
| 15:05.32 | captbrogers | Need advice: CentOS (with PHP 5.3.3) or Fedora (with PHP 5.4.5) as a server? |
| 15:05.54 | captbrogers | I understand Fedora isn't always recommended because of how often I have to update it, but I don't mind that |
| 15:06.00 | mindjuju | so captbrogers, is this being used for ecomm? |
| 15:06.07 | mindjuju | i ask because of this |
| 15:06.16 | captbrogers | mindjuju: No, just blog websites |
| 15:06.21 | mindjuju | PCI requires a current version of PHP and you won't get that out of centOS |
| 15:06.28 | captbrogers | <10% that it may have one at some ponit |
| 15:06.56 | captbrogers | Wouldn't I get that if I did decide to use the Remi repo to update PHP? |
| 15:07.41 | mindjuju | so the other argument is that centOS is incredibly stabe because it uses the stable versions of apps, i've not had my ubuntu server fail me and it offers more current versions |
| 15:08.15 | captbrogers | mindjuju: Nothing against Ubuntu, but I was "raised" on RPM based systems so I am far more confident on them |
| 15:08.17 | mindjuju | on remi that's what i'm using to work around it |
| 15:08.25 | mindjuju | ah |
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| 15:08.56 | mindjuju | in that case i'm running 3 production centOS 5.x servers in production and they are very goot |
| 15:10.07 | captbrogers | Please explain this "goot" |
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| 15:12.04 | mindjuju | das server runs very goot, ya |
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| 15:17.02 | carmony | gooooooood morning |
| 15:17.43 | mindjuju | morning carmony |
| 15:17.51 | mindjuju | when does your youngin' come? |
| 15:18.01 | mindjuju | soon, right? september? |
| 15:18.45 | carmony | october |
| 15:18.49 | carmony | 7 weeks |
| 15:18.52 | carmony | ahhhhhhh! |
| 15:19.08 | Lone_Wanderer | Is this your first one? |
| 15:19.17 | carmony | yup |
| 15:19.18 | mindjuju | here is my $.05 worth of free advice carmony, get sleep now |
| 15:19.22 | carmony | so, think after a few weeks Marshall will be up for playing some Portal 2? |
| 15:19.26 | carmony | lol, mindjuju, I'm trying |
| 15:19.33 | Lone_Wanderer | Get sleep now, and save up for amphetamines. |
| 15:19.37 | carmony | but for some reason Jo and I have been having a hard time sleeping these last few weeks |
| 15:19.41 | mindjuju | carmony, so much fun |
| 15:19.54 | mindjuju | i was playing RTS with corban the other day |
| 15:20.02 | mindjuju | and portal 2 with your own kiddo too muc hfun |
| 15:20.08 | Lone_Wanderer | #utah test |
| 15:20.11 | Lone_Wanderer | hmm |
| 15:20.27 | captbrogers | carmony: That happens |
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| 15:35.36 | ninnypants | what insurance companies does everybody use? |
| 15:35.47 | captbrogers | State Farm |
| 15:35.52 | captbrogers | They've been a champ for me |
| 15:36.10 | ninnypants | oh I meant medical/dental should have been specific |
| 15:36.18 | captbrogers | Well jeez. |
| 15:36.19 | ninnypants | but I do use state farm for my house |
| 15:36.27 | Benni_Hanna | Bear River |
| 15:36.55 | captbrogers | Beech Street |
| 15:37.26 | mindjuju | we just shifted from BC/BS to UHC |
| 15:37.34 | mindjuju | but UHC has been decent in the past |
| 15:38.29 | mindjuju | ~apb Utah_Dave |
| 15:38.30 | ibot | ACTION summons Beth to find Utah_Dave |
| 15:39.53 | ninnypants | awesome thanks guys |
| 15:39.59 | Utah_Dave | ~tunafart mindjuju |
| 15:39.59 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to mindjuju, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 15:40.17 | mindjuju | Utah_Dave, how is the broken arm? |
| 15:40.45 | Utah_Dave | Well, it's set and in a temporary cast. |
| 15:40.54 | Utah_Dave | But she's still feeling miserable. |
| 15:40.58 | mindjuju | oh man, poor little bug |
| 15:41.09 | Utah_Dave | And she's mad we won't take the cast off. :) |
| 15:41.45 | Utah_Dave | A bunch of people came to see her at the house last night. She loved the attention, especially when her cousins came. |
| 15:43.26 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 15:50.12 | mahelious | geico for my car, not a fan but they are dirt cheap. some nationwide sub for the home. |
| 15:50.41 | mahelious | and educators mutual for medical. my wife teaches first grade and hers trumps mine. |
| 15:52.06 | mgeary | i had geico for like 4 years, then, out of the blue, they hit me with a 30% increase. Had never even filed a claim. I called them and they were all, "oh, yeah, it's based on your zip code. All the insurance companies will have this same increase for your zip code." I then called Metropolitan and got almost exactly my old geico rate back. switched immediately |
| 15:53.07 | mahelious | mgeary: i had that exact situation with Allstate. i get the feeling thats a game they all play. have an "introductory rate" and then every few years jack the premium and hope you won't notice. |
| 15:53.15 | mgeary | yep |
| 15:53.30 | mindjuju | yup |
| 15:53.37 | mgeary | i'm probably due to shop around again. Been with Metropolitan for 6+ years now |
| 15:54.17 | mahelious | i think i need to get an independent agent that will shop around for me every couple years. |
| 15:54.34 | mindjuju | i like having my insurance man's personal cell phone |
| 15:54.46 | mindjuju | i never use it, but i like to have it |
| 15:55.21 | mahelious | also need to get an appraiser out to see my house. apparently utah county has decided my house gained $30,000 in property value between last year and now |
| 15:56.00 | mindjuju | better watch out mahelious, i hear they are raising property taxes |
| 15:56.54 | mgeary | well, if it's any consolation, i believe those increases are nearly exclusively going to education, which sorely needs more funding |
| 15:57.27 | mindjuju | hmm, i heard UTOPIA was taking the lion's share of it |
| 15:57.50 | mindjuju | i'll have to pin down specifics, i know they talked about it, but not sure when the final is ready |
| 15:58.09 | mgeary | i could be wrong. haven't seen specifics. I just know that most of prop. taxes go to education |
| 15:58.39 | mindjuju | if majority of $$ went education, i'd be ok with that |
| 15:58.50 | mgeary | but Provo didn't buy into UTOPIA (we've got our own iProvo boondoggle), so i'd be surprised if that increase went to UTOPIA from Provo |
| 15:58.56 | mindjuju | 1 visit to the computer lab a week, not a computer in sight in the class room? |
| 15:59.31 | mindjuju | that's what i was doing in jr. high. |
| 15:59.32 | fridgesm | The UTOPIA stuff is mostly misinformation |
| 16:00.01 | fridgesm | http://www.freeutopia.org/2012/08/16/local-groups-whipped-oremites-into-an-unhinged-frenzy/ |
| 16:01.56 | mindjuju | fridgesm, i see UTOPIA like i think early government saw the first roads, a needed public function that will help local econ, etc so i'm in it for the long haul |
| 16:02.09 | mindjuju | i'm mainly bitter that i don't have access to it and i've lived in Orem for going on 5yrs |
| 16:02.50 | mindjuju | it doesn't help though that they are under projected income though, AFAIK |
| 16:03.12 | mindjuju | and my understanding was taht they needed a tax increase to help offset that loss |
| 16:03.34 | mgeary | i support government-created infrastructure, like UTOPIA, but i get really irked that they have a completely unrealistic idea of how much they can/should charge for their service |
| 16:04.04 | fridgesm | UTOPIA has had some mismanagement. Not as much as iProvo, thank goodness, but there have definitely been some problems |
| 16:04.14 | fridgesm | I agree with the long-term benefits though |
| 16:04.45 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:04.47 | fridgesm | And just think about this: has UTOPIA forced Qwest and Comcast to increase the speed of their offerings? |
| 16:04.56 | mindjuju | totally |
| 16:05.21 | mindjuju | my arguement is, imagine how freeways and roads would be different if they were built and owned by Exxon or Chevron |
| 16:06.02 | mindjuju | luckily 2 orem counsilmen are in my ward (as you could imagine things were interesting last year when both were campaigning ) |
| 16:06.21 | ninnypants | mindjuju: all the intersections would be "continuous flow" |
| 16:06.34 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:06.56 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:07.07 | mindjuju | don't get me started on that |
| 16:07.18 | mindjuju | it is a punch to the eye of Logic |
| 16:07.26 | ninnypants | mindjuju: I take it your opinion is the same as mine and |
| 16:07.46 | mindjuju | i've already seen it fubbed up twice |
| 16:08.18 | mindjuju | or that u-turn business in Draper |
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| 16:08.48 | josephscott | haha, that intersection in Draper is a joke now |
| 16:08.59 | josephscott | I think what they really wanted was for everyone to avoid it |
| 16:09.06 | josephscott | which they have accomplished :-) |
| 16:09.34 | ninnypants | mindjuju: my favourite part about the orem one is that they somehow managed to replace one light with ~4 and still call it continuous flow |
| 16:09.36 | TuxToaster | IMO it wouldn't be so bad if it really did what they claimed (the supposed time savings) |
| 16:09.52 | TuxToaster | but having sat there for over five minutes waiting for a left turn light is rediculous |
| 16:10.16 | TuxToaster | ninnypants: where is the one in Orem? Parkway? |
| 16:10.28 | mindjuju | can't we get these UDOT a budget so they can visit another city and see traffic management really work? |
| 16:10.40 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: that's supposedly what they're doing :P |
| 16:10.43 | mahelious | TuxToaster: yep, right out front of UVU |
| 16:10.51 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: yeah right on that intersection between the college and walmart |
| 16:11.02 | TuxToaster | my opinion on the CFI is they would probably work better if they actually timed the turns better |
| 16:11.19 | TuxToaster | they've tried a couple of timings with them on bangerter |
| 16:11.20 | ninnypants | TuxToaster: probably true |
| 16:11.46 | mahelious | "timing lights? thats crazy-talk. from a crazy-person. crazy" |
| 16:11.49 | TuxToaster | but they'd have plenty of time to start queuing up the left turn lanes a bit earlier and then you wouldn't have to sit as long... hence "continuous" |
| 16:12.00 | ninnypants | but I'm not sure it was needed there I drove it during rush hour and it never really got backed up |
| 16:12.05 | TuxToaster | the best ones are the ones they added to streets that weren't wide enough |
| 16:12.23 | TuxToaster | so you have right turns that are blocked while the left turns are going through. |
| 16:12.37 | TuxToaster | like 41st and 62nd south |
| 16:13.04 | mindjuju | houton, with surrounding pop has nearly 6mill people compare to the entire state of Utah's 2.8 mil and i NEVER say something as goofy as continuous flow |
| 16:13.19 | mindjuju | oops, not say , but saw |
| 16:13.51 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: yeah. I want to say when we got our first CFI here on 35th that there weren't any in the US |
| 16:13.59 | TuxToaster | I know they did a lot of the research from Mexico City |
| 16:14.09 | mindjuju | omg |
| 16:14.23 | mindjuju | are you saying we're going to have school buses for public transportation now? |
| 16:14.25 | TuxToaster | or somewhere in Mexico at least |
| 16:14.36 | TuxToaster | aha http://www.continuousflowintersections.org/intersections/view/77 |
| 16:14.52 | mahelious | makes almost as much sense as the countless roundabouts with gigantic gardens and waterfalls. |
| 16:14.52 | mindjuju | local merchants riding to market with their livestock |
| 16:15.36 | TuxToaster | wow... http://cl.ly/image/0X2U2S0c252k |
| 16:15.44 | TuxToaster | the traffic patterns are insane. |
| 16:16.04 | TuxToaster | mahelious: lol. At least those look nice... and roundabouts are not that hard to figure out. Used heavily in other countries |
| 16:16.21 | josephscott | roundabouts are awesome, if you make them right and people know who to use them, which in the US we fail on both points :-( |
| 16:16.24 | TuxToaster | but the what.. four different types of intersections UDOT has piloted here now? confusing. |
| 16:16.28 | mahelious | right, but in other countries you can see whats on the other side coming towards you. |
| 16:16.48 | TuxToaster | I just like them to go around a few times and get my kid laughing |
| 16:17.12 | josephscott | in Australia we look at each roundabout as "shoot the gap" :-) |
| 16:17.22 | TuxToaster | (if there's not other cars around, of course... I wouldn't do that if it were busy) |
| 16:18.19 | mindjuju | round abouts aren't the most efficent thing in the world |
| 16:18.27 | mindjuju | what we do need is |
| 16:18.35 | mindjuju | ramps |
| 16:18.46 | mindjuju | ala Dukes of Hazzard |
| 16:19.14 | mindjuju | and some PA speakers playing the DoH car horn sound |
| 16:19.20 | TuxToaster | LOL |
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| 16:19.39 | mahelious | ~mindjuju++ |
| 16:20.05 | TuxToaster | sorry, still picturing it |
| 16:20.15 | mindjuju | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4W7E5BlLGM |
| 16:20.17 | TuxToaster | particularly over bangerter and 201 |
| 16:20.22 | TuxToaster | nice open space there |
| 16:20.30 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: that's the best idea I've heard all morning! |
| 16:20.30 | mindjuju | Can yo uimagine like an astrovan trying some of that |
| 16:23.47 | ninnypants | I wonder how many cars they went through in that series |
| 16:25.25 | mindjuju | prolly every jump a new car |
| 16:26.08 | ninnypants | 300 in the series according to answers.com |
| 16:26.22 | mindjuju | that's awesome |
| 16:26.43 | mahelious | you just know someone from idaho would come down and then this happens |
| 16:26.44 | mahelious | http://www.theaterhopper.com/wordpress/comics/2005-08-05.jpg |
| 16:27.24 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:30.14 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 16:30.51 | mindjuju | you know mahelious, seeing your comic, reminds me of something that happended a couple weeks ago where i was stuck waiting for a train to pass |
| 16:31.14 | mindjuju | seeing about 10 flat cars go buy i thought for a moment about a nice ramp to try to jump across |
| 16:31.34 | mahelious | hah |
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| 16:47.10 | captbrogers | I'm really getting frustrated with vps6.net, as of late my server seems down, but I am able to get in through their online console. Something is wrong with them and it's bugging me |
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| 16:59.03 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
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| 17:02.55 | captbrogers | supernovia is now a food? That's interesting |
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| 17:33.24 | supernovia | Truth be told, I'm more a nap than a food |
| 17:33.36 | captbrogers | Yes |
| 17:33.44 | supernovia | Or at least I was :) |
| 17:33.48 | captbrogers | Speaking of, anyone going to lunch anywhere good today? |
| 17:34.34 | supernovia | I'd go see a doctor about the daytime fatigue but I know he'd just tell me to get more sleep... |
| 17:35.09 | mindjuju | ibot, get supernovia hooked to breaks |
| 17:35.09 | ibot | ACTION fetches supernovia hooked to breaks |
| 17:35.52 | supernovia | I'm totally hooked to breaks (for napping, that is) |
| 17:36.12 | mindjuju | have you heard of breakbeats? kind of electronica music? |
| 17:37.52 | supernovia | mm, no - got a grooveshark playlist? |
| 17:38.17 | mindjuju | hmm, i'll have to make one |
| 17:38.36 | mindjuju | breakbeats == "1 can of Monster energy drink" |
| 17:38.38 | mindjuju | ; |
| 17:38.52 | captbrogers | I'm thinking I may have to go grab one of those |
| 17:39.14 | supernovia | sounds perfect |
| 17:39.31 | supernovia | I'm just about done making a standing desk — I think that'll help me out |
| 17:39.46 | supernovia | but I need a way to cut out a hole for my monitor cords |
| 17:40.24 | mindjuju | DtD, supernovia needs the music hookups |
| 17:40.54 | mindjuju | supernovia, shoutcast.com search for ravetrax, that's mainly got good stuff |
| 17:41.46 | supernovia | cool. thanks :) |
| 17:41.53 | mindjuju | you know though supernovia, you strike me as a hybrid kind of a person |
| 17:41.58 | Lone_Wanderer | I couldn't get it to work :( |
| 17:42.03 | Lone_Wanderer | (Shoutcast I mean) |
| 17:42.05 | mindjuju | i'll send ya something real quick |
| 17:42.09 | supernovia | OK |
| 17:43.45 | macnewbold | supernovia: drill saw works nice for making monitor-cord-sized holes |
| 17:44.08 | macnewbold | imma start using a standing desks in a couple of weeks myself - looking forward to it |
| 17:44.24 | supernovia | Mmm, drill saw |
| 17:44.40 | supernovia | Might you have one I could borrow? |
| 17:45.03 | mindjuju | i've actually got one here at work with the doorknob bit |
| 17:45.10 | mindjuju | punch a 3" hole into anything |
| 17:45.18 | mindjuju | err, maybe it's 2.5 |
| 17:45.30 | mindjuju | wide enough for the whole plug to go through if needed |
| 17:45.39 | supernovia | 3" would be a bit too big, but if it goes smaller that'd be superrad |
| 17:46.00 | supernovia | 2.5" might be just right |
| 17:46.28 | mindjuju | heh |
| 17:46.29 | supernovia | so if you wouldn't mind letting me borrow one that'd be awesomesauce |
| 17:47.11 | supernovia | thanks for these tunes btw, you are right |
| 17:51.03 | TuxToaster | supernovia: make sure to sand the edges of the hole, particularly on the bottom |
| 17:51.17 | TuxToaster | sharp desks are not friends with cords :-) |
| 17:51.28 | supernovia | Mmm, thanks for the heads up. |
| 17:51.36 | josephscott | I wonder what the details are on the Java exploit - http://krebsonsecurity.com/2012/08/attackers-pounce-on-zero-day-java-exploit/ |
| 17:52.06 | TuxToaster | no problemo. Ran into that with a desk at a previous job that had been cut |
| 17:52.38 | macnewbold | supernovia: looks like mindjuju has the hookup. I don't have one myself that would be the right size, usually end up borrowing from my dad. I think anything I have only goes up to about a 1" hole. |
| 17:54.05 | supernovia | ah, well thanks anyhow. I'll have to show you my nifty standing desk hack once it's all together. And I'm mostly there now :) |
| 17:55.11 | TuxToaster | supernovia: also, been meaning to ask you... how much spinach flavor actually comes through when you put it in a smoothie? |
| 17:55.27 | supernovia | depends on what other ingredients you add |
| 17:55.38 | supernovia | but if you do it right - very little if any |
| 17:56.24 | TuxToaster | woot. I've been tempted to try a couple of the recipes in the blendtec book, but my wife isn't a fan of spinach |
| 17:56.32 | supernovia | use something with a strong tart flavor and something sweet. so a pineapple chunk or two, and a banana, and then maybe an orange, along with some water, ice, and spinach is a nice taste :) |
| 17:56.44 | supernovia | which blendtec book do you have? |
| 17:56.50 | TuxToaster | fresh blends |
| 17:56.53 | supernovia | is it the one with a hard cover (newer than the soft cover one) |
| 17:56.57 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 17:57.04 | supernovia | everything in Fresh blends = ridiculously amazing |
| 17:57.25 | TuxToaster | yup yup. Has been so far anyways. |
| 17:57.26 | supernovia | the old soft cover one has some … recipes that would require a developed taste. |
| 17:57.44 | supernovia | (hence making the fresh blends book) :) |
| 17:57.54 | TuxToaster | Ihehe |
| 17:58.13 | TuxToaster | I finally quit procrastinating and got a blender a few weeks ago |
| 17:58.16 | supernovia | but I helped put it together and left before it was printed |
| 17:58.23 | supernovia | yay for you guys! You're gonna love it. |
| 17:58.26 | supernovia | did you get a wildside jar? |
| 17:58.53 | TuxToaster | yeah, we got the designer series so it came with one |
| 17:59.01 | supernovia | Ohhh sweeet! |
| 17:59.13 | supernovia | I designed most of the buttons on that one :) |
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| 17:59.36 | TuxToaster | FWIW, Bed Bath and Beyond is awesome if you want a designer series... you can sign up for their email list and get a 20% off cupon within an hour or so |
| 17:59.38 | supernovia | I didn't get to see the finished product before I left |
| 17:59.41 | mindjuju | super, the smallest cup i have is a 2" |
| 17:59.42 | supernovia | Sweet |
| 17:59.47 | TuxToaster | it's freaking awesome. :-) |
| 17:59.50 | supernovia | 2" is perfect mindjuju |
| 18:00.17 | mindjuju | so super fast, if you want to go uber cool, lowes sells the plastic molding for like $1 |
| 18:00.36 | TuxToaster | yeah, anything smaller is going to be hard to squeeze power and monitor cables through |
| 18:00.46 | mindjuju | so that's the little to cover the hole, it's an aestics thing |
| 18:00.52 | mindjuju | but you don't need it |
| 18:01.20 | supernovia | sweet, plastic molding would be perfect. I'll go pick some up when I get the kids this afternoon |
| 18:01.32 | supernovia | if they've got it in black |
| 18:01.51 | supernovia | except, apparently, when it comes to my clothing. Will have to change out of tie dye and scrubs before I pick up kiddos |
| 18:02.10 | supernovia | if I'm going into lowes at least :) |
| 18:02.28 | TuxToaster | supernovia: the best part was when I turned it on and the buttons appeared and my niece, nephew and kiddo all were like "wooooow" |
| 18:02.41 | mindjuju | awesome, i'm going to loan you a corded drill that i don't need back immediately so that'll give you some time |
| 18:03.27 | supernovia | cool |
| 18:03.32 | mindjuju | just let me know when you're going to be here and i'll have it ready. if it is going to be after 430p, i'll leave it with the front desk |
| 18:03.57 | supernovia | heheh, glad they liked that TuxToaster. I kinda battled a bit on whether to have complete blackout vs brighter buttons (blackout won, but it is a cool effect) |
| 18:04.09 | supernovia | Oh you have it right there at work? Rad |
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| 18:04.27 | supernovia | I'll text you before I get there, then |
| 18:04.31 | TuxToaster | supernovia: if you do go to Lowes, those plastic covers are usually down the same area where they have the bins of screws and nuts and stuff |
| 18:04.33 | mindjuju | awesome |
| 18:04.53 | supernovia | neat :) |
| 18:04.54 | mindjuju | yeah, i was just thinking TuxToaster, i can't remember what aisle i found them on |
| 18:05.01 | mindjuju | glad you remembered |
| 18:05.14 | TuxToaster | I just saw some the other day when I was getting a pin to put the wheel back on our garbage can :-) |
| 18:05.27 | TuxToaster | every time they'd put the can down the wheel would fall off |
| 18:05.53 | mindjuju | coolest thing was that Corban and I were punching 2 holes into the conference room table so we could route cables, and the conf table was so thick, we had to cut part way from top, then the her way from bottom |
| 18:06.04 | mindjuju | so much fun, he had blast |
| 18:06.55 | mindjuju | kids love power tools, i just make mine wear the safety glasses |
| 18:07.24 | supernovia | my kids get nervous :-/ |
| 18:07.42 | supernovia | probably because I don't have any power tools though and I don't think their dad lets them use his at all |
| 18:08.12 | mindjuju | :( |
| 18:08.51 | supernovia | I'll have to give him a nudge :) |
| 18:09.09 | supernovia | (or go buy a few myself :)) |
| 18:09.23 | mindjuju | now you're talkin |
| 18:09.33 | mindjuju | start with a mouse sander, you'll be hooked |
| 18:09.49 | TuxToaster | or a small cordless drill |
| 18:10.00 | mindjuju | you'll be refinishing your chairs, etc in no time |
| 18:10.08 | supernovia | :-D |
| 18:10.13 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 18:10.23 | supernovia | I do need to refinish my table, too... |
| 18:10.34 | TuxToaster | biggest thing I've got is a small table saw that I found on sale at Lowe's for ~100 |
| 18:10.54 | supernovia | man my ex has every power tool known to man I think, but he's in construction-ish stuff so it makes sense |
| 18:11.03 | TuxToaster | came in really handy when building bookshelves in my wife's library though |
| 18:11.07 | mindjuju | i think i know the one TuxToaster, thought about getting it too because i don't frequent enough |
| 18:11.13 | TuxToaster | (which will finally be finished this next weekend - yay) |
| 18:11.19 | supernovia | yay! |
| 18:11.32 | mindjuju | my FiL has the full sized one so if i need big cuts, i go there |
| 18:12.02 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: yeah, in my old car I could fold the seats down... so I spent a LOT of time picking up baseboard, moulding, and such from Lowe's and figured it'd be easier to get one so I could cut pieces as needed |
| 18:16.01 | mindjuju | oh man TuxToaster, you've got to ask my wife about the time we drove home on the freeway from home depot with a garbage can full of tools and stuff where the garbage can was strapped to the roof of a small hyandai |
| 18:16.24 | mindjuju | oh! i also got corban's bookshelf home from the di on that thing too, like 8ft long |
| 18:17.00 | mindjuju | heh, good times, being broke makes you improvise A LOT |
| 18:20.28 | supernovia | heheh, awesome :) |
| 18:27.12 | captbrogers | Not liking Laravel very much, a little too complicated |
| 18:27.38 | captbrogers | Trying to do the simple "Blog Tutorial" seems like there are so many pitfalls |
| 18:29.54 | macnewbold | interesting - i had someone trying to get me to try it, kinda glad now i didn't really |
| 18:31.54 | captbrogers | It honestly could be me. But as someone with a decent understanding of PHP, it shouldn't be this hard to set up a website with it |
| 18:36.10 | TuxToaster | mindjuju: heh |
| 18:36.12 | TuxToaster | most of ours went in the trunk + backseat |
| 18:37.00 | TuxToaster | probably the tightest fit was a table for our front room that I had to take out of the box and it literally fit with hardly 1/2" to spare |
| 18:37.46 | TuxToaster | I did strap a metal bunkbed on top of it once with bungee cords, and from that I learned the importance of putting a blanket or something under it |
| 18:40.19 | SunSparc | captbrogers: have you tried CakePHP or LI3? |
| 18:40.39 | captbrogers | I have tried CakePHP, and I didn't like it |
| 18:40.43 | captbrogers | I want to try Lithium |
| 18:40.58 | SunSparc | What did you not like about Cake? |
| 18:41.45 | captbrogers | Trying to get views the way I wanted, I don't remember exactly how it was being difficult but I just remember it was problematic for me |
| 18:44.17 | SunSparc | Ok |
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| 18:57.38 | captbrogers | switch to python? |
| 18:58.40 | mgeary | so much nicer |
| 18:58.52 | mgeary | two words: named parameters |
| 18:59.38 | captbrogers | But then I have to start at an absolute beginning |
| 19:00.10 | mgeary | you wouldn't have to if you switched PHP frameworks? I didn't see the beginning of the conversation |
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| 19:01.00 | mgeary | all I can say is that i've inherited CakePHP projects and Zend projects, and working in them after working in Django feels like i'm trying to walk through a 9-foot wall of Jell-o |
| 19:01.02 | captbrogers | One PHP framework to another isn't a huge deal, but switching to Django means I have to learn a new language |
| 19:02.00 | TuxToaster | ~mgeary++ |
| 19:02.43 | mgeary | i would assert that switching frameworks within a language can sometimes be a bigger deal than learning a new language |
| 19:02.54 | mgeary | but i acknowledge your point, and it may not be worthwhile |
| 19:03.09 | mgeary | but Django is such a nice framework |
| 19:05.54 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: I wrote a blog engine and resume builder in it once |
| 19:05.54 | mgeary | yeah, just working through the 1-2 hour tutorial really opened my eyes when i did it. that was ~8 year ago now, i think. Before then i had no idea how awesome using an ActiveRecord pattern could be |
| 19:06.20 | TuxToaster | I still prefer PHP (ducks from mgeary) but I still use it to generate my resumé |
| 19:06.21 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: nice! |
| 19:06.39 | mgeary | TuxToaster: you'll get no hate from me |
| 19:06.45 | SunSparc | mgeary: yeah, I worked through the tutorial and it was awesome |
| 19:06.56 | TuxToaster | the automagic admin controller is actually pretty sweet |
| 19:07.22 | TuxToaster | you set up your models how you want them to work, and the admin interface lets you add and remove [Model]s easily |
| 19:07.35 | SunSparc | Yeah, that was nice. |
| 19:07.52 | TuxToaster | assuming your models don't end with an 's', it even correctly says "Add Jobs" / 'Remove Job" etc |
| 19:09.04 | SunSparc | Dude, Jobs has already passed on to the next world. ;) |
| 19:09.23 | SunSparc | ~jobsify TuxToaster |
| 19:09.25 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:10.03 | SunSparc | :) |
| 19:23.51 | mindjuju | anybody know difference between bz2 and tar.bz2 |
| 19:24.51 | TuxToaster | not much, it's just like tar.gz vs .gz |
| 19:25.23 | TuxToaster | basically should offer some extra compression, but I've not seen a huge difference between the two |
| 19:25.35 | SunSparc | mindjuju: bz2 is a compression algorithm. Tar is a package utilitiy. |
| 19:25.41 | mindjuju | so they are 2 different kinds of file though |
| 19:26.10 | TuxToaster | yes |
| 19:26.27 | SunSparc | "tar" stands for "tape archive". Tar just packages up a group of files/directories into one file. |
| 19:26.28 | TuxToaster | tar by itself doesn't offer compression |
| 19:26.35 | SunSparc | BZ just compresses the file. |
| 19:27.47 | SunSparc | A file with a .tar.bz2 extention just means that someone tarred some files, which added the .tar extention to the file, then bz2'd it, which added the .bz2 extension. |
| 19:28.07 | SunSparc | The extensions are added by default, but are unnecessary. |
| 19:29.14 | TuxToaster | I think the reasoning for using tar vs just bzip/gzipping the files directly is to preserve attributes, permissions, etc. |
| 19:29.15 | mindjuju | oh funny, all i had to do was say bzip2 Packages |
| 19:29.27 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Yes. |
| 19:29.30 | TuxToaster | because you can zip without tarring and it works fine |
| 19:31.09 | SunSparc | tar was originally used for archiving data to tape media. It preserves all metadata under the sun about files/directories. |
| 19:31.32 | TuxToaster | ~tar SunSparc |
| 19:31.33 | ibot | ACTION shoves SunSparc in a box then tosses the box in a trash compactor |
| 19:31.41 | TuxToaster | ... |
| 19:31.49 | SunSparc | ~zip TuxToaster |
| 19:31.53 | josephscott | streaming a single file is also more efficient |
| 19:31.55 | TuxToaster | ibot: read man tar |
| 19:31.58 | ninnypants | supernovia: I've got one |
| 19:32.12 | josephscott | last thing you wanted a tape drive to do was have to pause |
| 19:32.44 | TuxToaster | a cookie? |
| 19:32.56 | TuxToaster | josephscott: true that. |
| 19:33.08 | SunSparc | josephscott: Good old tape drives. I never used one. I joined the fray in the 5.25 days. |
| 19:33.18 | ninnypants | wow I was scrolled up a long way |
| 19:33.23 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:33.32 | SunSparc | ~scroll ninnypants down |
| 19:33.32 | supernovia | lol |
| 19:33.48 | supernovia | ninnypants has an awesome, that's what! |
| 19:33.53 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: so did I, though I ended up collecting older hardware for quite a while |
| 19:34.04 | SunSparc | supernovia: just one? |
| 19:34.31 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Have you heard about the computer museum in California? |
| 19:34.40 | ninnypants | SunSparc: actually two. Got the wife and the kid. :) |
| 19:34.47 | supernovia | +1 |
| 19:34.49 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:34.50 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Nice |
| 19:34.58 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: I want to take my kids there someday. |
| 19:35.07 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: I'm still a bit bitter about the hardware I lost in my brother's storage unit |
| 19:35.22 | TuxToaster | since I had a couple of things that you might find in that museum.. |
| 19:35.31 | SunSparc | Stolen? |
| 19:36.15 | TuxToaster | no, I'd probably feel better about that actually... the guy that manages the units hired someone to clean one out from someone who hadn't paid... |
| 19:37.01 | SunSparc | Lame |
| 19:37.08 | TuxToaster | so they told him to clean like unit 147 or something. The guy gets there, realizes there aren't even 100 units, and asks them if they meant 47 instead, so without checking they just say probably, and he empties my brother's unit and hauls 95% of the stuff there to the dump, where it was crushed within two hours. |
| 19:37.56 | TuxToaster | I had a couple of old IBM 3270 series machines that were in perfect working order, an original Mac, etc. |
| 19:38.56 | TuxToaster | ha, sure enough... http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/accession/102625127 |
| 19:39.06 | TuxToaster | except I had the full system. |
| 19:41.07 | TuxToaster | still hoping some of it might have not been put into the storage unit, but I think all that's left at his house would be some of the parts that I canabalized into it. |
| 19:41.11 | SunSparc | TuxToaster: Wow, I would have been extrememly angry and demanding compensation. |
| 19:41.22 | captbrogers | http://rrrrrrrroll.tumblr.com |
| 19:41.28 | captbrogers | dafu did I just see? |
| 19:42.47 | TuxToaster | SunSparc: yeah, problem was I wasn't involved in it -- it was his unit, and the owner supposedly talked to his lawyer about it... my brother didn't push the issue as far as I would have |
| 19:43.06 | SunSparc | captbrogers: mezmorizing... |
| 19:43.18 | captbrogers | I don't even know what I was watching |
| 19:43.28 | TuxToaster | I think they ended up paying him maybe $1500 for everything that was lost, but it was worth much more than that |
| 19:44.36 | TuxToaster | there was a lot of other stuff in there besides mine, so I estimated $3-$4k would have been more reasonable, but by the time I found out about it they'd already talked to him and agreed to take the money. |
| 19:47.09 | SunSparc | Bummer |
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| 20:54.37 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 20:54.38 | raifbot | decapitates TuxToaster conan the destroyer style. |
| 20:54.45 | captbrogers | Karma |
| 20:54.56 | TuxToaster | it had to happen sooner or later... been a while. |
| 21:01.16 | Monnok | $rlart |
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| 21:28.33 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 21:28.33 | ibot | whips out a sword and chops herlo in half |
| 21:28.43 | SunSparc | $rlart |
| 21:28.43 | raifbot | slaps SunSparc around with a large trout. |
| 21:29.24 | SunSparc | $rlart |
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| 21:29.36 | SunSparc | ~lart raifbot |
| 21:29.36 | ibot | whacks raifbot with a giant beaver's tail |
| 21:31.36 | ninnypants | anyone had issues with pdfs not downloading for people? It's something like 1 person every few months, so I haven't been able to get any real info on it other than what I tracked down from the access logs today |
| 21:32.10 | ninnypants | the only thing that was different was that the user was using IE8 with the chromeframe addon installed |
| 21:32.34 | ninnypants | I've tested that like crazy but still haven't been able to reproduce |
| 21:32.39 | mindjuju | hmm, from that frequency, that's a layer 8 issue |
| 21:33.13 | mindjuju | just a guess though |
| 21:34.50 | ninnypants | mindjuju: that's my thinking as well |
| 21:34.57 | mindjuju | word |
| 21:35.02 | mindjuju | ^5 |
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| 21:47.21 | SunSparc | lol |
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| 21:48.06 | mgeary | PEBKAC ? |
| 21:48.32 | ninnypants | SunSparc: I had to google it too |
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| 22:09.12 | TuxToaster | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2321 |
| 22:09.34 | SunSparc | ninnypants: Another version of id10t and "keyboard chair interface" errors. |
| 22:11.25 | ninnypants | I like the doesn't require the IANA name space part |
| 22:14.23 | ninnypants | "few network toughs are willing to face down a sysadmin armed with a RITA and a confident demeanor." |
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| 22:24.08 | beandog | morning |
| 22:24.14 | beandog | oh crap, I'm late to work. |
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| 22:28.50 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 22:28.50 | raifbot | Chuck Norris got set on fire. The fire had to stop, drop, and roll. |
| 22:29.06 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:31.45 | beandog | $chuck-fact |
| 22:31.45 | raifbot | Once the cop pulled over Chuck Norris....the cop was lucky to leave with a warning. |
| 22:31.48 | beandog | lol |
| 22:32.06 | TuxToaster | nice |
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| 22:37.35 | ninnypants | josephscott: ping |
| 22:39.25 | josephscott | ninnypants: pong |
| 22:40.20 | ninnypants | josephscott: I'm curious with the Akismet plugin is there a reason it doesn't just automatically mark comments on posts with comments closed as spam? |
| 22:41.26 | josephscott | not off the top of my head |
| 22:41.59 | josephscott | there are some other related tests inside of Akismet that could/should fail in those cases though |
| 22:42.09 | josephscott | was this for a post that you recently closed comments on? |
| 22:42.15 | josephscott | or one that was always closed? |
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| 22:44.12 | beandog | try not to think about typing |
| 22:44.43 | ninnypants | josephscott: this is on posts from 3 years or so ago |
| 22:45.45 | josephscott | ok, that is a bit more odd |
| 22:45.51 | josephscott | make sure you mark it as spam |
| 22:46.38 | josephscott | another thing that could happen is that Akismet has already figured out it is spam, but wasn't aware of that at the time that you got hit |
| 22:47.06 | SunSparc | ~timetravel beandog |
| 22:47.22 | beandog | wow |
| 22:47.23 | beandog | spelling |
| 22:47.35 | ninnypants | josephscott: yeah I was surprised akismet didn't catch it though it looks like my close comments after 14 days got turned off so comments were actually open |
| 22:47.53 | josephscott | :-) |
| 22:48.58 | ninnypants | yeah that may have been exactly why I was seeing those ;) |
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