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14:09.09 | influx | Morning. |
14:09.21 | influx | $lart 6am wake-up |
14:09.21 | raifbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets 6am wake-up feel it. |
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15:00.57 | captbrogers | So I have to say that OpenVZ may not be that great of an option for servers, I'm thinking of moving back to Xen |
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15:45.32 | mgeary | ~rlart |
15:45.32 | ibot | says "boot to the head" and knocks seant23 over |
15:46.00 | mgeary | seant23? i think i may have interviewed seant23 once... |
15:46.12 | seant23 | Ya buddy |
15:46.14 | seant23 | a while ago |
15:46.21 | mgeary | thought so. You still in PC? |
15:46.31 | seant23 | Probably everybody in Utah has at least once... |
15:46.35 | mgeary | hah |
15:46.39 | seant23 | Nah, I'm out at Franklin Covey now a days |
15:46.43 | mgeary | oho |
15:46.46 | seant23 | in west valley |
15:46.49 | mgeary | yeah |
15:47.16 | mgeary | do you know Curtis Morley? |
15:47.21 | seant23 | nope |
15:47.35 | seant23 | I do contract work here, mostly just hang out in there developer cave |
15:47.42 | mgeary | right on |
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16:26.23 | romanovic | captbrogers: i assume you are on OpenVZ at ThrustVPS? |
16:27.26 | captbrogers | Yeah, I think I'll stay with ThrustVPS, just change to Xen |
16:27.52 | romanovic | what problems have you had? |
16:28.10 | captbrogers | High load times and after a little research it seems to be the kernel version is to blame |
16:28.22 | captbrogers | Plus I was having some trouble with IPTables |
16:28.32 | captbrogers | Found out I do like that much control |
16:34.59 | mindjuju | ~apb tierra |
16:34.59 | ibot | ACTION calls Tim to rough up tierra |
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16:53.29 | captbrogers | This silence is too dang much! |
16:53.31 | captbrogers | $chuck-fact |
16:53.31 | raifbot | There used to be a street named after Chuck Norris, but it was changed because nobody crosses Chuck Norris and lives. |
16:53.47 | mindjuju | if you want something to talk about, talk about tierra's bday |
16:54.08 | captbrogers | Will there be cake and balloons for lunch? |
16:54.40 | mindjuju | virtual cake maybe ;) |
16:54.50 | captbrogers | I was promised that once before... |
16:54.53 | captbrogers | It didn't end well. |
16:55.12 | mindjuju | ha, very true |
16:55.19 | mindjuju | turned out the cake was a lie |
16:55.32 | captbrogers | It was, but I got a cool gun out of it. And some science got done as well |
16:59.08 | mindjuju | HL:3 is a lie, a metaphorical carrot to keep us interested in Valve software, i'm beginning to believe it will never arrive, expectations too high, unrealistic anything short of our dreams will be a let down |
17:00.03 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju: it is similar to the cake |
17:00.08 | josePHPagoda | in many ways |
17:05.44 | mahelious | im sure HL:3 will come out right after HL:2Ep3 |
17:18.12 | mahelious | so, teenage mutant ninja turtles from outer space. |
17:19.10 | josePHPagoda | mahelious: i don't know what you are talking about. Aren't they mutants? |
17:19.39 | mahelious | apparently michael bay got film rights. he's decided they are mutants. but also aliens. |
17:19.50 | josePHPagoda | mutant aliens... |
17:19.52 | josePHPagoda | seems... excessive |
17:20.00 | josePHPagoda | i guess all we'll see are baysplosions |
17:20.04 | mahelious | im hoping bart simpson shows up to spraypaint the entire thing pink. |
17:20.08 | josePHPagoda | also, what about the rat guy? |
17:21.11 | clintberry | spliter |
17:21.17 | NoCoolName_Tom | Alien. |
17:21.34 | josePHPagoda | this just seems broken |
17:21.38 | josePHPagoda | ... |
17:21.40 | josePHPagoda | no ooze? |
17:21.46 | NoCoolName_Tom | Alien ooze. |
17:21.49 | mahelious | alien rats and alien turtles. apparently the good guys are some federated alliance of ninja planets? |
17:21.50 | josePHPagoda | hmm |
17:23.06 | captbrogers | So it looks like when Verizon sent out that last update for my Droid X to put it on 2.3.4, they did something that locked the phone up to prevent it being rooted. Any version I try to flash it to causes errors on bootloader and I can't do anything other than put it back at the latest |
17:23.11 | NoCoolName_Tom | It's okay though, because the turtles are going to be tough, edgy, funny, and completely loveable. |
17:23.29 | josePHPagoda | and won't have shells |
17:23.34 | josePHPagoda | cuz, alien turtles don't have shells |
17:23.42 | josePHPagoda | heck, why even be turtles |
17:23.49 | josePHPagoda | i mean, TAMT |
17:23.55 | josePHPagoda | or |
17:23.58 | josePHPagoda | TANT |
17:24.06 | josePHPagoda | what am I supposed to abreviate it as |
17:24.30 | josePHPagoda | captbrogers: that sucks |
17:24.59 | mahelious | i liked "teenage alien interstellar ninja turtles" myself |
17:28.37 | mindjuju | as long as they don't mess with donatello, we'll be fine |
17:32.05 | mahelious | the potential is rich. "im an inventor carrying a weapon the director can't distinguish from a phallis. look, i made a smart-bomb out of a toothpick, rubberband and paperclip!" |
17:43.05 | captbrogers | josePHPagoda, it really does. Especially when my wife doesn't think I could use an upgrade on my phone. Like the new Nexus |
17:43.36 | captbrogers | and wouldn't it be TMNA, or Teenage Mutant Ninja Aliens? |
17:43.52 | josePHPagoda | captbrogers is right |
18:04.59 | captbrogers | Anyone have any idea why MySQL daemon would be a memory hog and slow down my system? |
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18:13.07 | captbrogers | MySQL just seems so dang slow, and I'm not sure if it is the host or my setup |
18:17.40 | skinner | To iterate through the keys of an array to do some processing on them, one could do: |
18:17.40 | skinner | foreach ($array as $key => $value) { |
18:17.40 | skinner | <PROTECTED> |
18:17.40 | skinner | } |
18:17.40 | skinner | But is this considered cleaner?: |
18:17.41 | skinner | foreach (array_keys($key) as $key) { |
18:18.07 | skinner | the first example I don't use the variable $value.... |
18:21.17 | Bikerdan | I would say that the second one makes it more clear that you're specifically doing something with the key and not the value. |
18:21.29 | skinner | cool |
18:21.35 | skinner | thanks Bikerdan |
18:21.39 | Bikerdan | No problem |
18:22.09 | skinner | That was one of those, "This looks right, I like it better, but I'd like some justification from someone else..." lol |
18:22.22 | Bikerdan | :) Glad I could help |
18:23.11 | Bikerdan | In case you copy and paste, you probably meant array_keys($array) instead of array_keys($key). |
18:23.26 | skinner | ah yes |
18:23.39 | skinner | I was just typing a quick example for irc |
18:23.44 | Bikerdan | Ah. |
18:23.52 | Bikerdan | Sorry to nitpic |
18:23.56 | skinner | but yes, array_keys($array) |
18:24.13 | skinner | no worries, made me do a double take on my actual code so I don't break anything :) |
18:24.25 | Bikerdan | I think that's the first time I've attempted to write that word... (nitpick) |
18:24.44 | skinner | now my IDE is happy that I no longer have variables I'm not using |
18:24.45 | skinner | lol |
18:24.56 | Bikerdan | Which IDE? |
18:25.02 | skinner | Netbean |
18:25.06 | Bikerdan | Cool. |
18:25.07 | skinner | +s |
18:25.10 | Bikerdan | That's what I use too. |
18:25.49 | jtsnow | Any tips on how to get Netbeans to not be so slow? |
18:26.04 | skinner | Rewrite it NOT in Java |
18:26.06 | skinner | j/k |
18:26.06 | Bikerdan | It helps to restart it periodically |
18:26.10 | skinner | That too |
18:26.15 | jtsnow | It is slow from the start :P |
18:26.25 | skinner | How much RAM you has? |
18:26.33 | Bikerdan | It's not slow for me... |
18:26.35 | jtsnow | 4GB |
18:26.54 | skinner | It only loads slightly slow for me |
18:26.56 | Bikerdan | I have 8 gigs though. |
18:27.01 | skinner | but it's not slow running |
18:27.04 | skinner | I have 8 GB too |
18:27.15 | skinner | jtsnow: You could turn off the auto complete stuff |
18:27.32 | skinner | and the doc on demand pop-up |
18:27.47 | skinner | as nice as they are, those slow it down |
18:28.07 | Bikerdan | I would play around with turning off and on various features to see which ones make the most difference. |
18:28.52 | Bikerdan | Which version are you running jtsnow? |
18:29.14 | jtsnow | 7.1 |
18:29.44 | Bikerdan | What color do you use for comments? |
18:29.55 | Bikerdan | Just kidding. |
18:30.01 | Bikerdan | :) |
18:30.13 | jtsnow | I started using sublime text 2 about a month ago. Not sure I can go back to NetBeans, but there are some things I miss |
18:30.32 | Bikerdan | I've been playing with sublime text 2 also. |
18:30.47 | Bikerdan | It's great for small things, but when working with big projects netbeans is much better. |
18:30.50 | josePHPagoda | i'm from the future, i've been using sublime text 4 for months now |
18:30.52 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
18:30.53 | raifbot | puts xtrementl into a headlock and administers a mighty noogie, rubbing half of xtrementl's hair off. |
18:31.20 | Bikerdan | Which options ar checked in netbeans under options->editor->Code Completion? |
18:34.05 | jtsnow | everything but Display Documentation... and Case Sensitive... |
18:34.47 | Bikerdan | Try unchecking auto popup documentation window. |
18:34.52 | Bikerdan | That's a big one. |
18:35.36 | Bikerdan | I only have Auto Popup Completion... and Show Deprecated... checked. |
18:36.12 | jtsnow | I'll give it a shot |
18:36.37 | Bikerdan | Under view->toolbars do you have memory checked? |
18:36.57 | jtsnow | not at the moment |
18:37.05 | Bikerdan | Check it and tell me what it says. |
18:37.23 | Bikerdan | You should have a new little graph at the top. |
18:37.28 | Bikerdan | That shows memory usage. |
18:37.37 | Bikerdan | You can click it to force garbage collection. |
18:38.41 | mahelious | TIL I can halve my ide's footprint by forcing garbage collection |
18:38.48 | mahelious | ~Bikerdan++ |
18:38.59 | Bikerdan | Thx :) |
18:41.27 | Bikerdan | That little tool also gives you a button where you can profile the IDE... Might help figure out slowness. |
18:43.53 | jtsnow | yeah... right now it just locks up my machine trying to scan projects |
18:44.09 | Bikerdan | How many projects do you have open? |
18:44.12 | jtsnow | one |
18:44.38 | jtsnow | it gets stuck at 75% |
18:44.43 | Bikerdan | Hmmmm |
18:45.02 | Bikerdan | Do you possibly have some recursive symlinks or shortcuts or something? |
18:46.15 | Bikerdan | I have 12 projects open... It usually only scans the projects when I first open a project or the IDE has been closed for a while. |
18:46.37 | Bikerdan | It can be slow during that time. But once that passes, it's nice and snappy. |
18:47.14 | Bikerdan | http://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=178180 |
18:47.28 | jtsnow | yeah, I've used it for ~2 years and never had it this slow |
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18:49.04 | clintberry | jtsnow: Sublime Text 2 ftw... |
18:49.57 | Bikerdan | Wish Sublime had something like Netbeans' Shift+Alt+0 |
18:50.08 | Bikerdan | Shift+Alt+o |
18:50.29 | Bikerdan | I use it all the time. |
18:50.33 | Bikerdan | Can't live without it. |
18:51.43 | Bikerdan | Plus when I'm using PHP linter in sublime, it's extremely slow. |
19:00.18 | ninnypants | I've never had Sublime run slow because if a linter but it will pop up and tell me it is for some reason |
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19:02.31 | clintberry | Bikerdan: what does that key do? |
19:02.46 | Bikerdan | Shift alt o? |
19:02.48 | clintberry | yeah |
19:02.56 | Bikerdan | It's a find file feature. |
19:03.01 | clintberry | control P |
19:03.06 | clintberry | in sublime text |
19:03.15 | Bikerdan | You just start typing part of a file name and it finds it wherever it is in any open project. |
19:03.21 | clintberry | yup |
19:03.24 | clintberry | same functionality |
19:03.29 | clintberry | command P if you are hip |
19:03.44 | ninnypants | http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and/?a_dgi=aolshare_twitter |
19:04.05 | ninnypants | cntrl+r to find a function in a file |
19:04.46 | clintberry | and ctrl g to shortcut to a line :-) |
19:07.14 | Bikerdan | Cool. Thanks clintberry! |
19:07.22 | Bikerdan | And ninnypants. |
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19:08.35 | ninnypants | oh and I found out the other day that you can create snippets with variables in them and editing one variable can edit multiple variables in the snippet |
19:09.14 | ninnypants | https://gist.github.com/2140971 |
19:09.15 | Bikerdan | Can you do the equivalent of CTRL+click a class and have it jump to the definition? |
19:09.38 | ninnypants | I think if you use a plugin you can |
19:09.50 | ninnypants | I can't remember what it's called though |
19:09.54 | clintberry | yes |
19:09.59 | ninnypants | something like project recon |
19:09.59 | clintberry | sublime code intel |
19:10.22 | clintberry | but for big projects (symfony2 projects) it isn't nearly as reliable as netbeans |
19:10.36 | clintberry | https://github.com/Kronuz/SublimeCodeIntel |
19:11.43 | ninnypants | sublime has a really handy console too |
19:12.15 | ninnypants | though I just found that if you use it to try to divide and get a % it just returns 0 so 300 / 980 = 0 |
19:13.09 | clintberry | do 300.0/980.0 |
19:13.46 | clintberry | It is python, so it keeps them as integers unless you say otherwise. I guess that is same as PHP :-) |
19:22.52 | ninnypants | php has always converted to float for me |
19:24.53 | Bikerdan | can't get code intel to work.... |
19:25.28 | jtsnow | I couldn't get code intel to work either when I tried it |
19:28.28 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
19:28.28 | raifbot | In "ring around the rosie", Chuck Norris does not fall down. |
19:28.45 | mindjuju_ | ~lart chuck |
19:28.45 | ibot | lowers chuck's priority |
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19:30.11 | TuxToaster | $8ball can one really lower Chuck's priority? |
19:30.11 | raifbot | TuxToaster - As I see it, yes. |
19:30.32 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you just trying to make ibot feel better? |
19:30.32 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Better not tell you now. |
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20:07.05 | SunSparc | Check it out, AWS is making PHP app deployment super easy with git: http://aws.amazon.com/elasticbeanstalk/ |
20:08.28 | Utah_Dave | SunSparc: yeah, that looks pretty cool. |
20:09.06 | SunSparc | Utah_Dave: I am thinking it will be a great tool for a big project I am currently working on. |
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20:16.22 | carmony | SunSparc: interesting |
20:16.32 | SunSparc | carmony: indeed |
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20:33.42 | clintberry | Bikerdan: Sorry, I missed that. Is it giving you an error on code intel? |
20:34.00 | Bikerdan | It just doesn't respond... Like its not even enabled. |
20:34.39 | clintberry | so when you alt click on a function it doesn't put anything in the status bar? |
20:35.20 | Bikerdan | Nothing... |
20:35.34 | clintberry | That's strange. Let me look at my config and see why it is working for me |
20:35.46 | clintberry | you are in a project folder, right? |
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20:36.21 | Bikerdan | So I was clicking on a Class name in a class xxx extends yyy declaration and nothing. |
20:36.36 | Bikerdan | When I alt click on a function, the status bar says it's indexing. |
20:37.41 | Bikerdan | Taking a really long time. |
20:38.03 | clintberry | there you go |
20:38.12 | clintberry | so once it indexes, it should run faster |
20:38.20 | Bikerdan | So you can't alt click a class name? |
20:38.42 | clintberry | You are supposed to be able to. Let me see if I can |
20:38.46 | Bikerdan | k |
20:39.04 | clintberry | Shoot, mine works. I wonder what the deal is |
20:39.10 | clintberry | although it chokes with namespacing |
20:39.17 | Bikerdan | Maybe when it finishes indexing. |
20:39.28 | Bikerdan | How long does yours take to index? |
20:40.13 | clintberry | 10-30seconds. I make sure to set my ignore settings to not include caching directories, etc |
20:40.33 | clintberry | Either way, it seems too buggy |
20:40.58 | clintberry | it isn't like netbeans or eclipse that is instant and very accurate |
20:41.12 | Bikerdan | Ahhh |
20:41.13 | Bikerdan | ok |
20:41.18 | Bikerdan | What about debugging? |
20:41.23 | Bikerdan | Anything available there? |
20:41.32 | clintberry | Not integrated :-) |
20:41.45 | clintberry | pretty big feature gaps still :-) |
20:42.10 | clintberry | I started building and integrated xdebug app for it. But it has been harder than I thought it would be |
20:42.23 | clintberry | still a python newb |
20:42.43 | Bikerdan | Cool |
20:42.57 | Bikerdan | So I guess its back to netbeans for the main stuff. |
20:43.04 | Bikerdan | I do love a lot of things about sublime text |
20:43.14 | Bikerdan | Like the multi cursor editing stuff. |
20:43.27 | Bikerdan | And the high level code view. |
20:43.36 | clintberry | ah man, someone beat me to it: https://github.com/Kindari/SublimeXdebug |
20:43.56 | clintberry | Bikerdan: Yeah, understandable. I can see how those time saving functions are necessary |
20:44.12 | clintberry | It isn't quite there yet, but hopefully plugins will bring it there soon |
20:45.24 | Bikerdan | Yeah. And it seems like they are integrating some of the better more common plugins. |
20:45.31 | Bikerdan | Lot's of potential. |
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20:47.29 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
20:47.29 | raifbot | brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, opapo!" and lops off opapo's head. |
20:48.03 | Bikerdan | Looks like netbeans 7.1 now includes a block select. And it lets you type on multiple lines at the same time... They just have to be in the same column. |
20:50.59 | carmony | hehe, when looking up a question I had on Google, it took me to josephscott's blog :P |
20:51.23 | josephscott | that happens to me sometimes as well :-) |
20:52.48 | macnewbold | ~josephscott++ |
21:01.20 | TuxToaster | josephscott: "I could swear I've run into this before" |
21:01.22 | TuxToaster | *googles* |
21:01.25 | TuxToaster | "I have." |
21:10.22 | clintberry | mindjuju: When do you decide on speakers for UtahOS Conference? |
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21:48.52 | ninnypants | supernovia: you coming it WPSLC? |
21:49.03 | supernovia | I think so |
21:49.41 | supernovia | You? |
21:50.50 | josephscott | ~give supernovia some energy |
21:50.50 | ibot | ACTION gives some energy to supernovia |
21:51.12 | supernovia | Awe thanks. |
21:52.08 | supernovia | and one for josephscott as well, if I could transport it there |
21:52.13 | supernovia | and ninnypants |
21:52.40 | josephscott | we've got two batches upstairs I've been snacking on today :-) |
21:52.54 | supernovia | Oh nice! I need to make more dough since I'm about out |
21:53.25 | supernovia | We can't bake them all up in batches here. Not enough of us. |
21:53.29 | josephscott | we can't leave cookie dough around, we'd just eat it, so we have to cook them up to avoid the dough temptation |
21:53.41 | supernovia | lol |
21:53.57 | supernovia | see, we're not as tempted by the dough |
21:55.20 | josephscott | I've come to identify my strengths and weaknesses |
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21:55.39 | josephscott | I'm good about not buying them, because all I see are the $$s going out the door |
21:55.49 | josephscott | but once they are in the house, all bets are off |
21:56.00 | supernovia | Man, that's all I see ever, anyway. But they surely taste nice :) |
21:56.15 | supernovia | Someone has to let the $$ out. |
22:05.13 | hhatfield | $rlart |
22:05.13 | raifbot | wielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot. |
22:05.21 | hhatfield | ~retaliate |
22:05.29 | hhatfield | ~lart raifbot |
22:05.29 | ibot | strangles raifbot with a 9-pole serial cable |
22:08.51 | josephscott | $chuck-fact |
22:08.52 | raifbot | Chuck Norris destroyed the periodic table because the only element Chuck Norris recognizes is the element of suprise |
22:14.24 | hhatfield | $reboot |
22:15.48 | hhatfield | $8ball if a woodchuck chucked as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck, would they serve it at Chuck-a-rama? |
22:15.48 | raifbot | hhatfield - Outlook not so good. |
22:18.29 | hhatfield | $8ball is StackExchange behaving poorly wrt the ZendFramework site proposal? |
22:18.29 | raifbot | hhatfield - You may rely on it. |
22:25.35 | josePHPagoda | hello everyone! |
22:25.43 | josePHPagoda | i've got kind of a puzzling issue |
22:28.16 | josephscott | ~solve josePHPagoda's issue |
22:28.16 | ibot | ACTION grits her teeth while attempting to solve josePHPagoda's issue |
22:29.09 | josePHPagoda | ibot... nice try |
22:29.12 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
22:29.20 | josePHPagoda | essentially, i'm getting the message at joemagento.pagodabox.com |
22:29.25 | josePHPagoda | i'm trying to use redis for session storage |
22:29.51 | josePHPagoda | i've got the redis extension installed (which you can see if you go to joemagento.pagodabox.com/phpinfo.php) and magento is using it for cache |
22:29.59 | josePHPagoda | but i can't get things to work for using it for sessions |
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