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| 02:38.12 | SunSparc | ~rlart |
| 02:38.12 | ibot | smacks mgeary up side the head with a clue-by-4 |
| 02:38.31 | SunSparc | ~rlart raifbot |
| 02:38.37 | SunSparc | heh |
| 02:39.05 | SunSparc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:39.05 | ibot | wallops TuxToaster with a main rotation server that needs rehubbing. It won't take long |
| 02:39.15 | SunSparc | x ~rlart |
| 02:39.38 | SunSparc | x $rlart |
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| 04:25.26 | TuxToaster | oof |
| 04:25.29 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 04:25.29 | raifbot | throws jsmith-away's poor little doggy off a cliff. |
| 04:25.38 | TuxToaster | hmm, that's a new one |
| 04:25.47 | TuxToaster | $lart SunSparc |
| 04:25.47 | raifbot | moos at SunSparc. |
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| 06:56.55 | SunSparc | ~stats |
| 06:56.55 | ibot | Since Mon Feb 13 18:02:22 2012, there have been 2 modifications, 77 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 51 commands. I have been awake for 1d 12h 54m 33s this session, and currently reference 118383 factoids. I'm using about 22564 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 543.58/11.05 child 0/0 |
| 06:57.27 | SunSparc | ibot, what do you like to do in your free time? |
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| 15:49.47 | carmony | good morning |
| 15:50.14 | jsmith | Morning carmony |
| 15:50.46 | carmony | jsmith: gettin' ready to go to Czech Republic? :P |
| 15:50.56 | jsmith | carmony: Leaving this afternoon |
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| 15:58.21 | mgeary | jsmith: ooh. i loved my visit there |
| 15:58.28 | mgeary | gonna have any time for sightseeing in Prague? |
| 15:59.22 | jsmith | mgeary: Nope :-( |
| 15:59.33 | jsmith | mgeary: Work doesn't exactly let me play tourist on their nickel |
| 16:00.14 | mgeary | but surely you're not expected to work 12-24 hours a day |
| 16:00.35 | jsmith | Right, but I won't be in Prague |
| 16:00.39 | jsmith | I'll be in Brno |
| 16:00.48 | mgeary | gotcha |
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| 17:35.02 | influx | Morning y'all. |
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| 18:02.32 | clintberry | Has anyone used the ssh2_scp_send function before in php? |
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| 18:45.25 | romanovic | Did you all see? Looks like LiHjttEhZcwJomywCqU is hiring a VRiwTOXgHZmfCkWMN in New York |
| 18:45.52 | mahelious | that on the jobs list? ive noticed that getting a bit of spam the last week |
| 18:46.09 | romanovic | Yeah... its the second or third i've noticed lately |
| 18:53.01 | clintberry | I didn't get the email. In fact, I haven't been receiving job emails lately |
| 18:53.56 | mgeary | sorry, guys, i just accepted that job position |
| 19:04.51 | captbrogers | Well let us know how it goes |
| 19:20.48 | mahelious | I am curious, do you actually have skills in NEuTE2? Can someone go to school for that? |
| 19:30.36 | carmony | hey, its tjbell :) |
| 20:01.10 | xtrementl | isn't that eerie? |
| 20:09.11 | romanovic | anyone experienced issues in FF using play() and pause() on html5 videos? |
| 20:09.40 | romanovic | I call video_element.pause(), and it does pause, but firefox processor usage hits the ceiling |
| 20:39.53 | mahelious | ~lart firefox |
| 20:39.53 | ibot | strangles firefox with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 21:07.07 | mahelious | ugh. reading about the state of web video makes me want to hit someone, like the Steves. |
| 21:12.40 | mahelious | http://www.epa.gov/radon/pubs/citguide.html |
| 21:12.51 | mahelious | that may be the funniest thing ive seen this month. |
| 21:13.53 | mahelious | "if you have radon in your home and you smoke, stop smoking and don't worry about the radon." |
| 21:14.22 | mahelious | "t's never too late to reduce your risk of lung cancer. Don't wait to test and fix a radon problem. If you are a smoker, stop smoking." |
| 21:14.58 | influx | lol |
| 21:15.06 | influx | *hackcoughwheeze* |
| 21:16.43 | mahelious | ~influx++ |
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| 21:25.21 | Monnok | $chuck-fact |
| 21:25.22 | raifbot | Chuck Norris once got bit by a rattle snake........ After three days of pain and agony ..................the rattle snake died |
| 22:01.23 | mahelious | so this is what bothers me about development...today. I get a project down and break it up into what I think are more or less equal chunks. say, 5. |
| 22:01.26 | carmony | mindjuju: that is hillarious about those newsletters |
| 22:02.00 | mahelious | im whipping through the first few, and after knocking out 4 in 3 hours im feeling pretty confident in myself. |
| 22:02.22 | mahelious | then the last one throws me for a complete loop, takes me two hours and my boss starts giving me the stink eye |
| 22:02.37 | carmony | mahelious: I know exactly what you mean |
| 22:03.29 | mahelious | guess i need to go read more spolsky |
| 22:16.32 | mindjuju | any senior PHPers looking for a change of venue, i've got a headhunter looking for 4 people at a couple locations, sounds like they are all contract and pay is DOE "up to" 95k |
| 22:17.00 | mindjuju | i hate that "up to" stuff, so disingenuous |
| 22:17.03 | mindjuju | usually |
| 22:17.05 | carmony | lol, yeah |
| 22:17.10 | carmony | I say |
| 22:17.22 | carmony | "I'm worth every penny. Not interested? Thats okay." |
| 22:18.04 | captbrogers | I hate it when I see opening that under payment all that is listed is "DOE" |
| 22:18.05 | macnewbold | we ought to all start replying to those, saying our salary requirements are "up to nnnK" |
| 22:18.14 | mindjuju | i'm not sure why it is, but when ever i see that phrase, "up to" i always hear it as Billy Mays would say it |
| 22:18.23 | macnewbold | yeah, they're useless for determining if it's a waste of your time or not |
| 22:18.43 | macnewbold | I've seen ads for "senior" positions they're trying to fill for $50k, |
| 22:19.08 | carmony | lol |
| 22:19.52 | captbrogers | I think the same. I had someone tell me to "look at it from the manager's point of view", I told him that my experience may be worth more to me than it is to an employer. And if an employer isn't willing to tell me what they're willing to pay, they can't get upset when I ask for way more than they budgeted for. |
| 22:21.07 | captbrogers | I also told him to quantify experience, is it years? I've spent five years doing include and echo statements in PHP, does that mean I can claim I'm a senior? Nope, so basing it on years is arbitrary. Someone may only have one year of experience but written an entire MVC framework to match the big ones |
| 22:21.53 | captbrogers | It just got more and more frustrating because he wouldn't look at it from the developer's point of view but expected me to look at it from a managers. |
| 22:22.11 | mindjuju | that reminds me of when flex came out and within like 3 months, there was requests for senior flex devs with 2 yrs experience |
| 22:22.19 | carmony | haha |
| 22:22.27 | captbrogers | Awesome. |
| 22:22.46 | macnewbold | yeah, it's hilarious |
| 22:23.01 | macnewbold | we're only now barely to a point where something like 12 years of PHP experience is even meaningful |
| 22:23.17 | carmony | I've seen people ask for 5 years w/ degree, or 10 years w/o the degree, and I think "those extra 5 years vs the degree are not even close to being the same" |
| 22:23.21 | macnewbold | the guys saying they've been web devs for over 20 years kinda crack me up |
| 22:23.49 | captbrogers | Well, knowing how to write HTML in 1991 was considered a "web dev" position |
| 22:23.51 | herlo | macnewbold: oh, but they have. it's 20 dog years |
| 22:24.01 | herlo | :P |
| 22:24.12 | captbrogers | Back then it was something special |
| 22:24.46 | macnewbold | I've been doing html since 1994, does that mean i've been a webdev for 18 years? |
| 22:25.16 | captbrogers | Of course. And you are now considered a "guru" of web devs. |
| 22:25.31 | influx | mindjuju: Volt Denim? |
| 22:25.32 | captbrogers | I'm surprised you haven't merged your body with the essence of the internet |
| 22:25.33 | macnewbold | if "guru" gets me a raise, I'll take it :) |
| 22:25.34 | influx | err |
| 22:25.42 | influx | mindjuju: s/Volt/Vault/ |
| 22:26.31 | mindjuju | vault denim? |
| 22:26.36 | carmony | wow, this is pretty funny. I <3 the soup: http://thesouptv.com/latest/True_Terror/294650 |
| 22:26.59 | influx | mindjuju: Got a call from a HH about a position that sounded similar. High-end was 95k/yr. Contract-to-hire. |
| 22:27.06 | influx | Sandy area. |
| 22:28.07 | mindjuju | yeah, sounds right |
| 22:28.11 | mindjuju | i didn't ask, truthfully |
| 22:28.26 | influx | Was the HH from Intermountain Tech? |
| 22:28.34 | mindjuju | i've always felt headhunters equal to leaches |
| 22:29.02 | mindjuju | just sit there feeding on ya |
| 22:29.32 | mindjuju | HH was from RHT |
| 22:29.47 | influx | Ahh. |
| 22:30.09 | mindjuju | i'd ask for kick backs from referrals, but then if the situation turned out bad, i'd feel guilty, etc, etc, |
| 22:30.29 | mindjuju | plus i like standing in a biased towards developer position |
| 22:31.28 | carmony | I always tell people I'm open to hearing about new opportunities, but that my requirements are pretty high since I'm happy where I am at :P |
| 22:33.02 | mindjuju | i think i'd have to buy up 2 monopoly games to have enough "cash" to pay carmony wage |
| 22:33.09 | mindjuju | ;) |
| 22:33.18 | carmony | lol, maybe just 1 1/2 |
| 22:33.18 | carmony | ;) |
| 22:34.22 | influx | heh |
| 22:35.15 | mindjuju | oh yeah! i'm getting me some Popeyes! come to papa! http://www.standard.net/stories/2011/12/19/hill-air-show-planned-2012-memorial-day-weekend |
| 22:40.40 | mindjuju | so on the HH, i asked for clarity on the DOE and he didn't have any other info, so contact me if you want, YMMV |
| 22:44.52 | mahelious | i have a contract to developer job atm, and i found out today it actually is turning into a full-time position by the end of the month. |
| 22:45.08 | mindjuju | congrats! |
| 22:45.27 | mahelious | so there are a few good ones out there. im as surprised as anybody. |
| 23:22.34 | clintberry | whatever floats your boat, carmony :-) |
| 23:22.37 | carmony | lol |
| 23:28.11 | macnewbold | ?? |
| 23:28.25 | fungus | http://allthingsd.com/20120215/martha-stewart-on-the-web-a-good-thing-the-full-dive-into-media-interview/ |
| 23:29.31 | clintberry | nice macnewbold |
| 23:30.04 | macnewbold | :) |