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| 16:34.22 | mindjuju | talk about netsplit weekend |
| 16:34.44 | josePHPagoda | yeah, craziness |
| 16:35.15 | josePHPagoda | mindjuju: my son has really enjoyed playing minecraft with your son. |
| 16:35.23 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:35.55 | mindjuju | i've actually been studying for finals all weekend, not much fun :( |
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| 16:35.59 | mindjuju | that ends tomorrow though |
| 16:36.45 | josePHPagoda | good luck on those |
| 16:36.52 | mindjuju | :) |
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| 16:49.18 | beandog | monin |
| 16:49.26 | mindjuju | hi |
| 16:49.31 | beandog | hows it going mindjuju |
| 16:49.32 | mindjuju | when are your finals beandog? |
| 16:49.33 | beandog | did you finish finals |
| 16:49.36 | beandog | Saturday |
| 16:49.57 | mindjuju | i was going to take both this morning, but decided on 1, next one at 5p |
| 16:50.15 | mindjuju | so far i got an 88, not the A i wanted on the final, but oh well |
| 16:50.20 | beandog | which class |
| 16:50.24 | mindjuju | maybe a q will be thrown out |
| 16:51.15 | mindjuju | the dog was asking questions about MS expression wysiwg |
| 16:51.47 | beandog | whut |
| 16:51.51 | beandog | now I wanna know what questions you missed |
| 16:52.03 | beandog | "What is CSS an abbreviation for?" |
| 16:52.10 | mindjuju | i had to install MS expressions on my computer! |
| 16:52.14 | macnewbold | ~CSS |
| 16:52.14 | ibot | CSS DVD security lock see http://livid.on.openprojects.net/ for more information, or cascading style sheets, or http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ or http://www.webreference.com/html/tutorials/ and http://www.alistapart.com/ for some great tips, or http://www.meyerweb.com/eric/css/ |
| 16:52.19 | beandog | mindjuju: whats that |
| 16:52.38 | mindjuju | it's MS 's web coding app |
| 16:52.49 | macnewbold | ewww |
| 16:52.55 | mindjuju | but the teacher was asking stupid quextions in the view like, what is the tab called to see CSS code |
| 16:53.04 | mindjuju | and how do you create a new site in MS expressions |
| 16:53.10 | mindjuju | stuff you HAD to have it installed to see |
| 16:53.11 | macnewbold | so there are details of a specific crappy (optional) tool that are in your final? |
| 16:53.14 | macnewbold | how retarded |
| 16:53.31 | macnewbold | hold your head high, mindjuju - you took the moral high road by not installing the junk |
| 16:53.33 | mindjuju | yeah, was VERY pissed, he had 2 whole sections on it |
| 16:53.46 | beandog | mindjuju: what? that sounds horrible |
| 16:54.03 | macnewbold | unless the point of the class is specifically to learn that tool, he shouldn't be testing on it. |
| 16:54.13 | mindjuju | i know, i'm thinking of arguing that point |
| 16:54.23 | mindjuju | class REALLY taught coding badly |
| 16:54.44 | mindjuju | we had to do embedded CSS for half the class |
| 16:54.52 | mindjuju | why teach it wrong? |
| 16:55.04 | mindjuju | i axe you, why teach it wrong and against industry standards? |
| 16:55.17 | mindjuju | how difficult is it to link to a .css file in a web page? |
| 16:55.33 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 16:55.34 | raifbot | changes carmony's permissions to 0777 and tells the world. |
| 16:55.36 | beandog | I always forget how to do it |
| 16:55.38 | beandog | lol |
| 16:55.46 | carmony | bah |
| 16:55.50 | carmony | $lart TuxToaster |
| 16:55.51 | raifbot | gives TuxToaster a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades". |
| 16:55.55 | TuxToaster | doh |
| 16:56.02 | mindjuju | there was some other stupid stuff he did in the class |
| 16:56.06 | mindjuju | total waste of time |
| 16:56.15 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: but then they have to teach the diff between relative and absolute paths, file system and server paths |
| 16:56.32 | beandog | mindjuju: well you can do one of two things ... complain and see about getting it fixed, or be glad you're done and never take anything from that prof again |
| 16:56.40 | mindjuju | yeah, i got docked 2 points for using absolute paths |
| 16:57.10 | mindjuju | teacher's pref was for relative |
| 16:57.15 | mindjuju | yeah, i love this stuff |
| 16:57.30 | mindjuju | ../../../some/dumb/structure/image.gif |
| 16:57.36 | mindjuju | puh lease |
| 16:59.14 | beandog | whut |
| 16:59.23 | beandog | btw, anyone know any good resources in utah for ged? |
| 16:59.25 | beandog | not for me |
| 16:59.38 | mindjuju | ~dict catheter |
| 17:00.13 | beandog | ~beat mindjuju with a waste pipe |
| 17:00.13 | ibot | ACTION beats mindjuju with a waste pipe with a dripping-wet & less-than-fresh fish |
| 17:00.16 | TuxToaster | eh, there are some advantages to relative paths... but usually not big unless there's a chance of the site getting moved to a subfolder or something |
| 17:00.53 | mindjuju | beandog, we've got a white elephant Christmas party this Friday at work, i'm going to buy a catheter and put some mineral oil/yellow water in it |
| 17:01.19 | mindjuju | seal both ends, and you've got a little wave machine, LOVE IT |
| 17:02.02 | mindjuju | the catch is, it has to be see-through or it's moot |
| 17:02.11 | mindjuju | and surprisingly, or perhaps no, most of them aren't |
| 17:02.25 | mindjuju | i did find this one, http://www.amazon.com/Bard-Touchless-Unisex-Intermittent-Catheter/dp/B000BF1FNK/ref=sr_1_3?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1323708107&sr=1-3 |
| 17:02.41 | tierra | mindjuju: wow, that is retarded (re: CSS final) |
| 17:03.07 | mindjuju | and figured out the 1100cc is roughly 32 fl oz, so that should be big enough |
| 17:03.11 | mindjuju | tierra, no doubt |
| 17:03.29 | tierra | you should definitely contest that if it was a general CSS class and not specifically for teaching that tool |
| 17:05.25 | Bikerdan | @mindjuju: You should put a hand warmer in the bottom of the box to make sure it's nice and warm when they open it... Just for the extra effect :) |
| 17:05.58 | mindjuju | funny you say that, i was trying to figure out how to keep it warm |
| 17:06.35 | mindjuju | oh man! that's one of my finest ideas for white elephant |
| 17:06.35 | Bikerdan | I aim to please :) |
| 17:06.49 | mindjuju | i might just make one for me to have at my desk |
| 17:10.42 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 17:10.46 | Bikerdan | sick |
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| 17:54.59 | TuxToaster | $chuck-fact |
| 17:54.59 | raifbot | Chuck Norris was in all 6 Star Wars movies............... As The Force. |
| 17:55.05 | TuxToaster | lol |
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| 17:58.39 | mindjuju | doesn't SOPA get settled this week? |
| 18:04.49 | ninnypants | mindjuju: but I sure hope it doesn't pass |
| 18:04.54 | ninnypants | http://torrentfreak.com/megaupload-to-sue-universal-joins-fight-against-sopa-111212/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter |
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| 18:08.37 | mindjuju | ninnypants, that's a funny article, i hadn't read it before |
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| 18:09.39 | ninnypants | yeah kinda messy that someone's own content is being taken down by record labels |
| 18:09.49 | ninnypants | mindjuju: who is that? |
| 18:10.14 | mindjuju | chafhttp://chaffetz |
| 18:10.23 | mindjuju | oops, http://chaffetz.house.gov/ |
| 18:10.36 | ninnypants | http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/12/saudi-woman-executed-practising-sorcery?CMP=twt_gu |
| 18:11.27 | ninnypants | ahh ok that's who I thought it might be |
| 18:11.56 | mindjuju | yeah, he's twittered his status on it like 5 times in the last week |
| 18:12.02 | mindjuju | i guess a ton of us keep buggin' him |
| 18:12.17 | mahelious | I'd like Chaffetz more if he would man up and run against Orrin in '12 |
| 18:12.39 | mindjuju | grrr, that orrin |
| 18:13.06 | beandog | I don't know much about politics, but I know he's a twit. |
| 18:13.21 | mindjuju | mahelious, you know orrin is a co-sponsor on SOPA/PIPA |
| 18:13.26 | mahelious | no, unfortunately hes very smart. |
| 18:13.36 | mindjuju | and he's taking campaign contributions from MPAA, lots of it |
| 18:13.47 | mahelious | mindjuju: if a corporation is buying legislation, Orrin seems to be their go to guy |
| 18:14.15 | mindjuju | i'm trying to pin down exact amounts |
| 18:14.41 | beandog | mindjuju: there's websites that have that stuff |
| 18:14.50 | beandog | track all the donations to political peeps |
| 18:14.53 | mindjuju | yeah, but i'd like to have it better documented |
| 18:15.01 | mindjuju | i want to see xamples before I quote it |
| 18:15.08 | beandog | mindjuju: study for your final! |
| 18:15.12 | mindjuju | i should be |
| 18:15.17 | beandog | no abolute paths for you! |
| 18:15.17 | mindjuju | stop talking about Orrin! |
| 18:15.28 | mindjuju | he makes me mad! |
| 18:15.38 | beandog | oh, mindjuju, you love it. |
| 18:16.36 | beandog | how big of a filesystem can I make fat32 |
| 18:17.17 | mahelious | i think max partition for fat 32 is around 32GB. |
| 18:17.41 | beandog | hmm |
| 18:17.42 | beandog | oh well |
| 18:17.50 | beandog | when is windows going to support ext3? :C |
| 18:17.55 | mahelious | technically you can make it larger with the right tools, but it starts to fall apart when you fill it up |
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| 18:18.48 | beandog | hmm |
| 18:18.48 | beandog | okay |
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| 18:38.42 | mindjuju_ | i've got a box that allows for hot-swap SATA drives, the OS on the box is linux, i'm trying to figure out how to actually make hot swap work. the drives are for a backup system (just a bunch of scripts cobbled together), should I write something in that mounts / unmounts the drives? |
| 18:38.49 | mindjuju_ | i'm not having a bunch of luck on google |
| 18:40.29 | mindjuju_ | fungus, herlo ^^ |
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| 19:04.02 | fungus | mindjuju_, unmount, swap drives, rescan scsi devices, mount |
| 19:05.39 | mindjuju_ | sounds good, i'm going to upgrade my scripts to rdiff-bk (something herlo recommended) and include that in the process |
| 19:05.41 | mindjuju_ | thx fungus |
| 19:05.44 | mindjuju_ | ~fungus++ |
| 19:10.40 | beandog | ~swap mindjuju_ |
| 19:10.46 | beandog | ah man |
| 19:10.54 | beandog | ~trade mindjuju_ |
| 19:10.54 | ibot | ACTION trades mindjuju_ up for a paper clip |
| 19:10.59 | beandog | lol |
| 19:11.51 | mindjuju_ | thx fungus! |
| 19:11.56 | mindjuju_ | oops, thx beandog! |
| 19:12.06 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:12.18 | beandog | $27 for an 8gb usb stick? isn't that a bit much? |
| 19:12.18 | TuxToaster | ~trade ibot |
| 19:12.18 | ibot | ACTION trades ibot up for a paper clip |
| 19:12.22 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 19:12.28 | TuxToaster | beandog: yes |
| 19:12.57 | TuxToaster | Seems like you should be able to get an 8GB for less than $20 I believe |
| 19:13.05 | beandog | that's my biggest requirement |
| 19:13.34 | mindjuju_ | ~coupon beandog |
| 19:13.44 | beandog | oh you guys |
| 19:13.46 | TuxToaster | I personally loved my Lexar Firefly, their 8GB runs about $12 on NewEgg |
| 19:13.48 | mindjuju_ | ~give beandog a coupon for USB jump drive |
| 19:13.48 | ibot | ACTION gives a coupon for USB jump drive to beandog |
| 19:13.48 | mahelious | 8GB for $30 sounds high, but i guess it depends on form-factor and latency. |
| 19:14.00 | beandog | mahelious: it's pretty |
| 19:14.25 | TuxToaster | beandog: link? |
| 19:14.53 | mahelious | personally i have a usb card reader (microSD) on my keychain. i like that i can upgrade the flash card from time to time, but keep the same device |
| 19:15.13 | mindjuju_ | sounds like good idea |
| 19:16.12 | beandog | oh whoops I just found the same on for $10 |
| 19:16.14 | beandog | n/m TuxToaster |
| 19:16.17 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-USB-Flash-Drive/dp/B0012X5766/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1323717359&sr=8-2 |
| 19:16.36 | beandog | oh wait, that's not prime |
| 19:16.37 | beandog | screw that! |
| 19:16.46 | mindjuju_ | looks pretty cheap, prolly smells badly whilst operating |
| 19:16.52 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-Generation-Flash-Drive/dp/B001ROVLWO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1323717359&sr=8-6 |
| 19:16.55 | mindjuju_ | possibly making curious sounds when backing up |
| 19:16.56 | beandog | there's the $27 one |
| 19:17.08 | beandog | mindjuju_: I already have a bunch of these, different sizes |
| 19:17.18 | mindjuju_ | i'm just teasing |
| 19:17.38 | beandog | wow 16gb is $1 more |
| 19:17.47 | beandog | no prime! |
| 19:17.57 | mindjuju_ | prime rox |
| 19:17.59 | beandog | meh |
| 19:18.03 | TuxToaster | but double space for $1? |
| 19:18.12 | beandog | anybody wanna root my phone for me? |
| 19:18.21 | TuxToaster | what's the benefit of it being prime if you get free shipping anyways? |
| 19:18.25 | TuxToaster | (i.e. if it's over $25 |
| 19:18.47 | beandog | TuxToaster: free 2 day air |
| 19:18.49 | mindjuju_ | oh talking about rooting, do you still have that soft mod kit i gave you beandog, i want to softmod the lst xboxen i have |
| 19:18.55 | TuxToaster | aha |
| 19:18.59 | mindjuju_ | if you don't its ok, since i gave it to you |
| 19:19.01 | beandog | mindjuju_: no, bu t I have a ton of xbox stuff |
| 19:19.18 | beandog | http://spaceparanoids.org/downloads/xbox/ |
| 19:19.19 | TuxToaster | my xbox hasn't been started up in a long time |
| 19:19.26 | beandog | these were super hard to dig up, or I had to go through stinky filesharing sites |
| 19:19.26 | TuxToaster | bringing back some memories there :-) |
| 19:19.35 | beandog | so I threw it all up in a public directory just to spite everyone |
| 19:20.16 | mindjuju_ | :) |
| 19:20.27 | mindjuju_ | i don't think it's on the part of xbins that they didn't want it out |
| 19:20.32 | mindjuju_ | i think it was from MS |
| 19:20.32 | beandog | mindjuju_: I totally bricked that one xbox you gave me :C |
| 19:20.49 | mindjuju_ | that's ok, i'm sure it makes a nice dust collector |
| 19:20.54 | beandog | I had to go in and play around |
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| 19:20.55 | beandog | le sigh. |
| 19:20.57 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 19:20.57 | beandog | big mistake |
| 19:21.10 | beandog | "I wonder what this does ... oh, that bricks the machine" |
| 19:21.11 | beandog | derp |
| 19:21.11 | mindjuju_ | oh well, life goes on, no? |
| 19:21.20 | skinner | （╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ |
| 19:21.21 | beandog | yah, in fact, I'm looking at building a new HTPC |
| 19:21.29 | beandog | there is a super hawt mini-itx I wanna get |
| 19:21.45 | TuxToaster | nice |
| 19:21.48 | mindjuju_ | have link; will look |
| 19:21.50 | beandog | lemem see if I can find it |
| 19:21.52 | mindjuju_ | beandog^^ |
| 19:22.07 | TuxToaster | beandog: have you looked at mini-box.com? They have some slick stuff too |
| 19:22.16 | TuxToaster | (if that's not where you're already looking) |
| 19:22.24 | beandog | TuxToaster: that's one of those sites that it is dangerous for me to spend time on |
| 19:22.31 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:22.49 | beandog | men have died for less |
| 19:23.11 | beandog | check out this sexy beasat |
| 19:23.11 | TuxToaster | I actually bought some stuff from them a couple years ago to put a carputer in my car |
| 19:23.12 | fungus | lol, that's a pretty low bar to set |
| 19:23.12 | beandog | beast |
| 19:23.14 | beandog | http://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-Dual-Core-Intel-Wi-Fi-Motherboard/dp/B004WO8OA8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323717777&sr=8-1 |
| 19:23.21 | beandog | super so want |
| 19:23.21 | TuxToaster | but... haven't actually installed it as of yet. |
| 19:23.28 | beandog | fanless! \o/ |
| 19:23.32 | beandog | bluray playback! \o/ |
| 19:23.37 | mindjuju_ | i want a carputer |
| 19:23.37 | beandog | nvidia! \o/ |
| 19:23.42 | beandog | mindjuju_: mp3car.com |
| 19:24.00 | mindjuju_ | TuxToaster, does yours have some kind of monitor? |
| 19:24.11 | mahelious | is that....hdml? |
| 19:24.11 | beandog | http://www.zotacusa.com/intel-atom-d525-mini-itx-ionitx-t-u.html |
| 19:24.13 | TuxToaster | yeah I've got one of the voodoo cases that looks like an amp and a 7" touchscreen |
| 19:24.15 | beandog | ^^ mini-itx specs |
| 19:24.18 | mahelious | on a $200 chipset? |
| 19:24.41 | beandog | whats hdml |
| 19:25.09 | TuxToaster | I need to get a different monitor though. Apparently if I get the 8" liliput I can take it out of the bezel and it will fit perfectly in the factory stereo spot in my dash, or so I'm told |
| 19:25.19 | mahelious | its how i type hdmi when i have the flu ;) |
| 19:25.42 | TuxToaster | hopefully will get around to working on it this spring now that I have a garage to keep my car in :-) |
| 19:25.50 | TuxToaster | mahelious: lol |
| 19:25.59 | beandog | mahelious: oh, yah, even my old one has that |
| 19:26.14 | beandog | mahelious: with VDPAU playback, it means you can decode MPEG2/MPEG4 on the hardware |
| 19:26.25 | beandog | mahelious: My current HTPC runs a 35W CPU ... it's so sexy nice :D |
| 19:26.29 | mindjuju_ | ~decode beandog |
| 19:26.31 | TuxToaster | beandog: wow, that one is a nice setup |
| 19:27.48 | TuxToaster | what amazes me is I bought my stuff back in July of '09 or so. And the specs aren't really that much different than what's available today. |
| 19:28.23 | beandog | yah |
| 19:28.27 | beandog | just gets much faster |
| 19:28.46 | TuxToaster | yeah, I think mine was a dual atom 1.6 |
| 19:28.55 | TuxToaster | probably a slower FSB |
| 19:28.57 | beandog | atom procs are nice |
| 19:29.10 | beandog | my netbook runs it, and it's fast enough to do all the basic home user stuff |
| 19:29.27 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 19:30.06 | beandog | anyhoo |
| 19:30.34 | beandog | I better get back to what the boss has been bugging me about for a week. |
| 19:30.39 | TuxToaster | ~distract beandog |
| 19:30.39 | ibot | ACTION flounces her blonde hair and saunters past beandog with a cold beer in her hand. "Hello, sailor! Wanna go for a ride?" |
| 19:30.40 | beandog | whatever it was. |
| 19:30.47 | beandog | LOL |
| 19:30.47 | beandog | whut |
| 19:30.52 | TuxToaster | hmm. that's just awkward. |
| 19:31.04 | beandog | I know. I totally wanted a warm beer. |
| 19:31.10 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:37.23 | mindjuju_ | i wonder if it is possible to have a carputer that has bluetooth that my android could control |
| 19:37.30 | mindjuju_ | need to look that up tomorrow |
| 19:38.04 | TuxToaster | mindjuju_: most likely. |
| 19:38.24 | TuxToaster | ~mourn raifbot |
| 19:38.24 | ibot | ACTION lights some candles for raifbot |
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| 19:39.35 | josephscott | $8ball is everything ok? |
| 19:39.36 | raifbot | josephscott - Very doubtful. |
| 19:39.42 | josephscott | $8ball what about now? |
| 19:39.43 | raifbot | josephscott - It is decidedly so. |
| 19:43.17 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 19:43.23 | TuxToaster | had to finish warming up |
| 19:44.19 | beandog | mindjuju_: finals! |
| 19:50.38 | mindjuju_ | perhaps i should study? |
| 19:55.41 | beandog | only if you want a good job |
| 20:01.17 | jsmith | mindjuju_: Naw, minecraft is supposedly much more fun than studying... |
| 20:01.27 | mindjuju_ | shush you! |
| 20:01.31 | mindjuju_ | don't tempt me! |
| 20:01.38 | jsmith | mindjuju_: I already did. |
| 20:01.47 | jsmith | mindjuju_: And I distracted you as well -- two points for me :-p |
| 20:01.59 | mindjuju_ | block jsmith |
| 20:02.01 | mindjuju_ | ;) |
| 20:04.20 | beandog | I think mindjuju_ is just asking for temptation by staying on here |
| 20:08.19 | TuxToaster | $lart mindjuju_ |
| 20:08.20 | raifbot | beats mindjuju_ senseless with a 50lb Unix manual. |
| 20:12.34 | beandog | lol |
| 20:14.07 | beandog | I totally wanna see a 50lb unix manual |
| 20:15.07 | TuxToaster | would have really been timely if he were studying Unix for his finals |
| 20:15.19 | beandog | instead of some crapalicious windows app |
| 20:16.03 | josephscott | I bet you the old DEC manuals totaled well over 50 pounds |
| 20:16.24 | josephscott | their VMS and TruUnix docs where verbose to say the least |
| 20:16.34 | TuxToaster | I know many of IBM's used to come in 3 ring binders |
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| 20:16.48 | TuxToaster | and they'd send addendum packets so you could replace sections as they were updated |
| 20:16.54 | josephscott | I recall the VMS manuals had something like 30 volumes, in the large 3 ring binders |
| 20:17.07 | josephscott | yep, DEC would the same thing |
| 20:18.40 | ninnypants | Isaac Newton’s Personal Notebooks Go Digital: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2011/12/isaac-newton-papers/ |
| 20:20.29 | ninnypants | ahh the format is disappointing wish you could just download a pdf instead of only single images |
| 20:26.35 | TuxToaster | http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-57341535-52/verizon-eyeing-netflix-big-time-rumor-alert/ |
| 20:26.39 | TuxToaster | *eyeroll* |
| 20:28.43 | carmony | gah, I need to do my slides :P |
| 20:37.41 | josephscott | redis++ |
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| 20:54.03 | beandog | josephscott: whats so great about redis |
| 20:55.56 | josephscott | they took the simplicity of memcached and took the next natural steps |
| 20:56.32 | josephscott | being able to store data types (sorted arrays, hashes) |
| 20:56.52 | josephscott | do operations on that data inside redis |
| 20:57.08 | josephscott | come to carmony's presentation, I'm sure he'll cover it :) |
| 20:57.54 | carmony | basically they took the concept of memcached, but added a few more features that make it so much more powerful, and still keep the super high performance |
| 21:01.05 | TuxToaster | I really need to look at using Redis on my current stuff |
| 21:01.06 | josePHPagoda | redis is nice |
| 21:01.15 | josePHPagoda | it can also "persist" to the disk |
| 21:01.17 | josePHPagoda | which is nice |
| 21:01.25 | josePHPagoda | so you can have it occassionaly flush to the disk (it does it in a lazy manner) |
| 21:01.55 | beandog | okay |
| 21:02.11 | beandog | Ive never even worked with memcached, so I'm not following |
| 21:03.22 | carmony | macnewbold: hrm, have we posted about the presentation on the website? |
| 21:03.31 | macnewbold | memcached is basically a big associative array |
| 21:03.41 | macnewbold | you give it a key and some data and it stores it |
| 21:03.49 | macnewbold | then you ask about the key later, and it can give you back the data |
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| 21:04.54 | josePHPagoda | and it does it very very very quickly |
| 21:05.03 | TuxToaster | beandog: what macnewbold said, except the key is that with both the idea is they allow you to store and retreive data in memory |
| 21:05.17 | josePHPagoda | memcache doesn't apply anything to disk, it does it all in memory |
| 21:05.21 | beandog | macnewbold: intresting |
| 21:05.29 | josePHPagoda | so you consume a lot of ram, and when you run out of ram, it just discards the oldest |
| 21:05.46 | TuxToaster | really useful for loading things like say lists of countries or config settings and such |
| 21:06.44 | josePHPagoda | or, if used properly, sessions |
| 21:06.58 | josePHPagoda | but you still need to store sessions in the "slow" backend |
| 21:07.09 | josePHPagoda | so you don't lose them if something goes wrong with your memcache |
| 21:07.24 | TuxToaster | yup |
| 21:08.01 | josePHPagoda | but don't use it for storing info |
| 21:08.06 | josePHPagoda | use it for cacheing info |
| 21:15.58 | Bikerdan | If you need something like memcache that is persistent, you can check out Membase / Couchbase. It's basically Memcache using a persistent backend. All of the front end api stuff is the same. It's supposedly just as fast as well... |
| 21:19.39 | josePHPagoda | redis also can flush to disk |
| 21:32.12 | Bikerdan | I'm a little scared of redis... |
| 21:32.26 | Bikerdan | I went to a presentation on redis at MySQL Con. |
| 21:33.13 | Bikerdan | The presenter basically complained about all of the problems they had with it and how they worked around the problems. Seriously... I wasn't sure if the presentation was supposed to get me hyped up or psyched out.... |
| 21:34.11 | josephscott | what sort of problems/work around did then run into? perhaps it wasn't a good choice for the problem they were trying to solve |
| 21:34.54 | Bikerdan | I believe that most of the problems were around them using virtual memory. |
| 21:35.32 | josePHPagoda | Bikerdan: they were doing it wrong then |
| 21:35.32 | jtsnow | I think virtual memory has been removed from Redis |
| 21:35.43 | Bikerdan | That's probably why... |
| 21:36.25 | josePHPagoda | virtual memory goes against all that redis is meant to be |
| 21:36.28 | josePHPagoda | :-/ |
| 21:36.37 | Bikerdan | josephpagoda: I take it you like redis? |
| 21:36.51 | josePHPagoda | for what it's good at |
| 21:36.55 | josePHPagoda | that's like asking me if I like forks |
| 21:36.59 | josePHPagoda | or spoons |
| 21:37.00 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 21:37.01 | josePHPagoda | or knives |
| 21:37.03 | josePHPagoda | it really depends on what i'm doing |
| 21:37.05 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:37.08 | Bikerdan | I LOVE FORKS! |
| 21:37.11 | beandog | what *are* you doing with forks? |
| 21:37.12 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:37.24 | josePHPagoda | well... i can tell you i'm not using them to help me drink water |
| 21:37.28 | josePHPagoda | cuz forks suck |
| 21:37.31 | Bikerdan | Yeah... but if you don't like forkss, you'll try to use something else. |
| 21:37.32 | josePHPagoda | once I was trying to get a drink |
| 21:37.35 | josePHPagoda | the fork didn't help me at all |
| 21:37.44 | Bikerdan | Even when they would work. |
| 21:37.45 | josePHPagoda | i even got a bigger, more scalable fork, and it still didn't help |
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| 21:37.51 | josePHPagoda | i don't see why ANYONE would use a fork |
| 21:38.00 | macnewbold | i like forks - they're great for making more processes |
| 21:38.09 | josePHPagoda | (i'm referring to real forks...) |
| 21:38.12 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:38.14 | macnewbold | so am i |
| 21:38.25 | josePHPagoda | (none of these newfangled virtual forks) |
| 21:38.27 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:38.28 | macnewbold | my fork is realer than your fork |
| 21:38.28 | Bikerdan | Laugh it up fuzzballs |
| 21:38.39 | Bikerdan | :) |
| 21:38.49 | josePHPagoda | Bikerdan: does that make sense> |
| 21:38.52 | josePHPagoda | ? |
| 21:38.58 | josePHPagoda | we actually use redis as part of our load balancer |
| 21:39.03 | Bikerdan | Yeah... Did you read my statement though? Did that make sense? |
| 21:39.14 | Bikerdan | So you like it enough to use it. |
| 21:39.18 | Bikerdan | There are other tools... |
| 21:39.31 | josePHPagoda | we found redis to be the best match for what we were trying to accomplish |
| 21:39.43 | Bikerdan | And it's worked for you? |
| 21:39.45 | josePHPagoda | and we are using it in a production environment |
| 21:39.48 | josePHPagoda | yes |
| 21:39.50 | josePHPagoda | very well |
| 21:39.52 | Bikerdan | Enough to be pleased with it. |
| 21:39.53 | TuxToaster | $8ball do you like redis? |
| 21:39.53 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Yes. |
| 21:40.00 | TuxToaster | $8ball how about memcached? |
| 21:40.01 | raifbot | TuxToaster - My sources say no. |
| 21:40.02 | Bikerdan | That's what I was asking when I said "like" |
| 21:40.08 | josePHPagoda | ah |
| 21:40.10 | TuxToaster | that settles it. lol |
| 21:40.11 | Bikerdan | Sorry |
| 21:40.11 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 21:40.13 | josePHPagoda | we use redis |
| 21:40.30 | josePHPagoda | it acts as a data store for our load balancer routes |
| 21:41.02 | Bikerdan | Cool. I still cannot believe that presentation... It was actually kinda sad.... |
| 21:41.16 | macnewbold | yeah, that's lame |
| 21:41.20 | macnewbold | unless the talk is about magento |
| 21:41.22 | josePHPagoda | i'm glad my presentation wasn't like that |
| 21:41.25 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 21:41.26 | macnewbold | then it is just truthful |
| 21:41.36 | josePHPagoda | ah, we had a decent sized magento implementation we had to fix |
| 21:41.44 | josePHPagoda | for the holidays |
| 21:41.45 | Bikerdan | Magento... The shopping cart thing? |
| 21:41.48 | josePHPagoda | yeah |
| 21:41.54 | Bikerdan | Intimidating.... |
| 21:42.03 | josePHPagoda | magento is kinda... weird |
| 21:42.07 | josePHPagoda | and slow |
| 21:42.10 | josePHPagoda | and bloated |
| 21:42.15 | josePHPagoda | and it doesn't like to use joins |
| 21:42.18 | macnewbold | s/kinda… //g; |
| 21:42.24 | TuxToaster | $lart magento |
| 21:42.24 | raifbot | acting on orders from an unspecified client drags magento into court suing for $200 million. |
| 21:42.25 | josePHPagoda | at elast, the last time I looked, so it tries to do joins in the codebase |
| 21:42.32 | macnewbold | sometimes |
| 21:42.39 | macnewbold | other times it does a whole lotta joins |
| 21:42.43 | beandog | lol nice lart |
| 21:42.47 | beandog | $lart finals |
| 21:42.47 | raifbot | smacks finals up side the head with a clue-by-4. |
| 21:42.52 | beandog | lol |
| 21:42.52 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 21:42.55 | beandog | clue-by-4? |
| 21:43.03 | macnewbold | the silly eav model they overused made it a terribly convoluted database |
| 21:43.08 | TuxToaster | mix of cluebat and two-by-four |
| 21:43.12 | TuxToaster | (guessing) |
| 21:43.14 | josePHPagoda | the most annoying thing is how the cache is wildly inefficient, unless you switch to memcache |
| 21:43.27 | macnewbold | they should have only used eav for custom fields you add on, cause most people wouldn't have any |
| 21:43.30 | josePHPagoda | also, it logs all sorts of useless stuff to the db, which causes higher load on the db with any real benefit |
| 21:43.45 | josePHPagoda | err... *without any real benefit* |
| 21:43.50 | Bikerdan | Yeah... Is started to look into it once... it made me want to write my own from scratch. |
| 21:43.51 | TuxToaster | would have been optimal if it had executed a killall magento |
| 21:43.56 | TuxToaster | or the chmod 777 magento |
| 21:44.38 | tierra | eav tables should be used sparingly, where it makes sense... I hate it when people use them for stuff that isn't actually metadata |
| 21:47.23 | josePHPagoda | it's like using an application dictionary |
| 21:47.29 | josePHPagoda | (compiere and adempiere take that approach) |
| 21:47.36 | josePHPagoda | makes it extremely flexible, but not really high performance |
| 21:53.55 | ninnypants | but who really need performance from their store I hear Amazon makes their page load times as long as possible ;) |
| 21:57.28 | TuxToaster | haha |
| 21:57.47 | TuxToaster | come on, you only do a 30? 600 is where it's at. |
| 21:57.57 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 21:58.24 | TuxToaster | With everyone into the retro kick now, you've got to really emulate the feel of a 2400 baud modem to make true geeks feel at home |
| 21:59.22 | beandog | TuxToaster: heh, have you seen the Muppets movie? |
| 21:59.25 | Monnok | How about a sleep(30) for every request on the page? |
| 21:59.38 | TuxToaster | beandog: not yet |
| 22:01.04 | TuxToaster | Monnok: things like that will ultimately end up in the user going to sleep. |
| 22:01.23 | mindjuju_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihW56Xa3XGQ |
| 22:01.27 | TuxToaster | which could explain some certain phenomenon I've seen from time to time. |
| 22:01.35 | mindjuju_ | i hate the song so much, i have to listen to it, at least 1x each year |
| 22:01.40 | TuxToaster | mindjuju_: wow, that's an awesome final. |
| 22:01.42 | TuxToaster | err... wait. |
| 22:01.43 | beandog | ~curse mindjuju_ |
| 22:01.43 | ibot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mindjuju_ ! |
| 22:01.45 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:02.09 | beandog | $lart compaq |
| 22:02.09 | raifbot | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets compaq feel it. |
| 22:02.15 | josephscott | mindjuju_: best christmas song ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3eAaxQVaHE |
| 22:02.37 | beandog | that lart was extremely fitting |
| 22:03.21 | beandog | josephscott: what ... the ... crap |
| 22:03.31 | josephscott | lol |
| 22:03.33 | beandog | $ban josephscott |
| 22:03.44 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:03.47 | beandog | I cant look away |
| 22:03.54 | TuxToaster | you'd think after that response you'd second think clicking the link |
| 22:04.02 | beandog | are you kidding? |
| 22:04.15 | beandog | non-mindjuju youtube links > mindjuju youtube links |
| 22:04.45 | TuxToaster | yeah, figured that one out |
| 22:04.50 | josephscott | it's pretty much the best video ever made |
| 22:04.56 | beandog | josephscott: yahp |
| 22:05.10 | TuxToaster | I thought the "what ... the ... crap" above was because it was bad. (hadn't clicked it yet) |
| 22:05.25 | beandog | it's the next justin bieber |
| 22:05.27 | beandog | I kid you not. |
| 22:06.20 | beandog | I have to watch it again. |
| 22:06.26 | mindjuju_ | calling somebody justin bieber, that's not an insult? |
| 22:06.44 | TuxToaster | was just going to say, that doesn't sound like a good thing |
| 22:07.23 | beandog | TuxToaster: I mean, in the same way h e was discovered (youtube) |
| 22:07.33 | beandog | although I guess he isn't singing. |
| 22:07.45 | beandog | I love how he points to the tree. that's hilarious |
| 22:08.02 | mindjuju_ | justin bieber was discovered on youtube? |
| 22:08.14 | mindjuju_ | you sure it wasn't Star Search? |
| 22:09.28 | beandog | mindjuju_: uh, I'm sure. |
| 22:09.31 | TuxToaster | it's YouTube, according to Wikipedia |
| 22:09.37 | beandog | I figured th at was common knowledge. |
| 22:09.38 | josePHPagoda | it was a sad day in history is what it was |
| 22:09.53 | mindjuju_ | im' curious how beandog knows so much about justin beber |
| 22:09.54 | beandog | you can go back and see him singing on youtube at like 8 years old |
| 22:09.57 | beandog | mindjuju_: lol |
| 22:10.02 | beandog | I admit nothing. |
| 22:10.14 | josePHPagoda | beandog: i don't know if I can be your friend anymore... |
| 22:10.23 | beandog | we were friends? |
| 22:10.28 | josePHPagoda | i thought so..... |
| 22:10.30 | mindjuju_ | ibot, beandog is also a belieber |
| 22:10.30 | ibot | okay, mindjuju_ |
| 22:10.32 | josePHPagoda | but now.... |
| 22:10.33 | beandog | :D |
| 22:10.38 | mindjuju_ | ~beandog |
| 22:10.39 | ibot | from memory, beandog is the gentoo guru, or a wannabe racer. a skater. the enlightened one, or <3 Janeway, or a non-girl, or has a large intestine filled with mealworms, or a belieber |
| 22:10.45 | beandog | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:10.48 | beandog | :c |
| 22:10.53 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 22:10.56 | Monnok | lol |
| 22:10.58 | josePHPagoda | ~josePHPagoda |
| 22:11.09 | mindjuju_ | ~mindjuju |
| 22:11.09 | ibot | it has been said that mindjuju is sleeping with his left eye open, or insane, or a windows system administrator *GASP*, or the Prophet of Breakbeats, or sweat sexy hawtness, or a Texan, or wears his snuggie in the buff, or has a thing for hawt sitcom moms, or likes ponicals, or listens to celine dijon. DJ Nerd Magic, or can't tell toast from a pop-tart, or can beat a viper in a sedan |
| 22:11.09 | josePHPagoda | apparently, it doesn't know anything about me |
| 22:11.23 | beandog | Today a stain has been marked on my soul. |
| 22:11.26 | mindjuju_ | that's true about my left eye, btw |
| 22:11.52 | josePHPagoda | so who was it during my presentation that had questions about pricing? |
| 22:12.05 | josePHPagoda | (i know it was a while ago, just never had a chance to talk w/ that person) |
| 22:12.20 | mindjuju_ | oh, and I vehemently deny the part about snuggie in the buff |
| 22:12.23 | TuxToaster | ~pity beandog |
| 22:12.23 | ibot | I pity da fool beandog! |
| 22:12.37 | mindjuju_ | ~tuxtoaster |
| 22:12.37 | TuxToaster | ok, not quite the pity I was after. |
| 22:12.46 | mindjuju_ | ~herlo |
| 22:12.46 | ibot | somebody said herlo was the best boardgamer ever, works for Guru Labs and generally reads good things his friends lend him |
| 22:12.56 | beandog | ~fungus |
| 22:12.56 | ibot | from memory, fungus is Kinda smelly, but grows on you, or a ASCII guru, or an Okra fan, or the new hawtness, or a hip, or gaga for Gaga |
| 22:12.58 | mindjuju_ | hmm, that old |
| 22:13.15 | beandog | josephscott: man I can't stop watching this |
| 22:13.19 | beandog | Ive never even heard of t his song |
| 22:13.21 | mindjuju_ | ~josephscott |
| 22:13.21 | ibot | i heard josephscott is unknowable |
| 22:13.30 | mindjuju_ | curious |
| 22:13.46 | TuxToaster | ~ibot |
| 22:13.46 | ibot | It's me |
| 22:13.49 | TuxToaster | meh |
| 22:13.57 | Bikerdan | ponicals.... Sick.... |
| 22:13.59 | TuxToaster | ~raifbot |
| 22:14.00 | josePHPagoda | ~lart ibot |
| 22:14.00 | ibot | nukes josephpagoda with a single large nuke |
| 22:14.04 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 22:14.07 | beandog | Bikerdan: lol |
| 22:14.07 | josephscott | I first heard that song probably 10 years ago, the wife and I always get a kick out of hearing it now |
| 22:14.08 | josePHPagoda | it defends itself apparently |
| 22:14.15 | beandog | Bikerdan: mindjuju brought up my little pony musicals in here |
| 22:14.27 | TuxToaster | $lart ibot |
| 22:14.27 | raifbot | wielding the mighty hammer of Thor, Mjölnir, I summon lighting to destroy ibot. |
| 22:14.41 | beandog | er, My Little Pony |
| 22:14.48 | beandog | not "my" little pony musicals ... |
| 22:14.50 | TuxToaster | $lart $lart |
| 22:14.50 | raifbot | does a little 'dpkg -P $lart' action. |
| 22:14.54 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:14.55 | josephscott | did the email list archive on uphpu.org die? |
| 22:15.15 | beandog | mindjuju_: every comment you make on here today drops your grade by another letter. |
| 22:15.24 | TuxToaster | josePHPagoda: shows up for me |
| 22:15.28 | TuxToaster | http://uphpu.org/pipermail/uphpu/2003-September/thread.html |
| 22:15.47 | TuxToaster | err, josephscott* |
| 22:15.49 | beandog | okay my turn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hAUWyp0qzs |
| 22:15.57 | josePHPagoda | TuxToaster: i appreciate the info, but I didn't ask |
| 22:15.59 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 22:16.01 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 22:16.08 | mindjuju_ | for beandog |
| 22:16.14 | josephscott | TuxToaster: right, but I don't see anything recent |
| 22:16.27 | josephscott | maybe we need a test message to make sure it is still alive |
| 22:16.49 | TuxToaster | Oooh.... I see what you mean |
| 22:17.16 | TuxToaster | I'm guessing something might not be running. Last message was when Wade said it was being moved to C7 |
| 22:18.50 | mgeary | anyone here use haproxy? |
| 22:19.14 | mgeary | i've been asked to troubleshoot a problem with some EC2 servers |
| 22:19.20 | Bikerdan | Is it me or is this a little wierd... I get an email from a sales guy, that I've never met, and at the end of the email, right before his signature it says, "With thanks I remain yours truly," |
| 22:19.35 | mgeary | i know next to nothing about the server set-up, but they're production machines and currently unhappy |
| 22:20.20 | utahcon | any WP custom post type masters chilling in here today? |
| 22:20.45 | mindjuju_ | bikerdan, i think that's from the recession |
| 22:20.53 | mindjuju_ | people not usually in sales are getting jobs there |
| 22:21.15 | mindjuju_ | i got a call from a sales guy who when discovering he was in sales, i told him to send me a list of products in an email |
| 22:21.24 | Bikerdan | ? What was he BEFORE the recession?... :{ |
| 22:21.32 | mindjuju_ | he screen captured the products page from their site, browser window and all and emailed it to me |
| 22:21.33 | mindjuju_ | no joke |
| 22:21.42 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 22:22.03 | Bikerdan | What's with the ,"yours truly" bit though? |
| 22:22.07 | Bikerdan | Sounds a little needy. |
| 22:22.15 | utahcon | Bikerdan: Is submissive. |
| 22:22.22 | utahcon | err... HE is submissive. |
| 22:22.26 | Bikerdan | lol |
| 22:22.27 | utahcon | You own him now. Enjoy! |
| 22:22.48 | Bikerdan | I don't wanna own a guy.... Except at Quake 3 |
| 22:22.59 | Bikerdan | But that's more of a Pwn |
| 22:23.09 | utahcon | you have low expectations, but I was raised in the South |
| 22:23.15 | beandog | I can see this conversation quickly deteriorating |
| 22:23.19 | Bikerdan | So was I... |
| 22:23.25 | TuxToaster | mgeary: what's going on with it? I haven't really done a lot with haproxy directly |
| 22:23.35 | Bikerdan | Yours truly reminds me of what you'd say in a valentine card. |
| 22:24.01 | utahcon | josephscott: Any suggestions for WP custom types in the loop docs? |
| 22:24.01 | mgeary | not really sure, frankly, TuxToaster |
| 22:24.06 | mgeary | i'm getting 503 Service Unavailable: No server is available to handle this request. messages |
| 22:24.41 | TuxToaster | mgeary: can you reach the web servers from the haproxy box? |
| 22:24.46 | mgeary | well |
| 22:24.50 | TuxToaster | like telnet port 80 on one that should be in the queue? |
| 22:25.11 | TuxToaster | 503 would be if it thinks all of the nodes in the queue are down |
| 22:25.21 | josephscott | utahcon: http://codex.wordpress.org/Post_Types#Template_Files ? |
| 22:26.02 | mgeary | TuxToaster: it's a wonky setup through RightScale |
| 22:26.05 | mgeary | and i'm just trying to even take stock of what's there |
| 22:26.16 | TuxToaster | oof |
| 22:35.16 | utahcon | josephscott: I am trying to make it so my custom post type hits the front page loop, I was hoping there was a better way than this: http://www.wprecipes.com/how-to-display-custom-post-types-on-your-wordpress-blog-homepage |
| 22:35.31 | utahcon | That seems like it would break other custom post types from showing up in the loop too |
| 22:36.03 | utahcon | Was hoping there was a magically call for "all currently registered post types in the query" and then I could tack mine on |
| 22:36.53 | josephscott | I don't think there's a concept of 'all currently registered post types' from the loops point of view |
| 22:37.05 | josephscott | is something where you don't have control of the theme? |
| 22:37.21 | utahcon | how would you go about having multiple custom post types show on the home page then? from the plugin POV |
| 22:37.49 | josephscott | probably something like that filter you linked to |
| 22:38.01 | josephscott | alter the query so that in gets the additional type included |
| 22:38.49 | utahcon | I will keep digging, thanks. |
| 23:09.07 | ninnypants | utahcon: there should be a get post types function that will grab all the registered post types and you can make a black list of the ones you don't want included |
| 23:13.53 | macnewbold | for your monday afternoon video viewing pleasure, enjoy: http://youtu.be/p4nRI5BjR8I |
| 23:17.08 | josePHPagoda | epic |
| 23:17.11 | josePHPagoda | :-P |
| 23:18.03 | beandog | he didn't really take a drink |
| 23:19.04 | tierra | macnewbold: heh, nice |
| 23:20.07 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: lol |
| 23:20.30 | TuxToaster | I want to do some automation stuff to my house eventually |
| 23:20.42 | macnewbold | wps did his place not long ago |
| 23:20.54 | mindjuju_ | there were no labeled guarantees that it wasn't a rickroll, so had to wait an appropriate amount of time to make sure vid was safe |
| 23:20.55 | macnewbold | he gets all excited every time his house texts him that his garage door has been open >5min |
| 23:21.09 | TuxToaster | heh |
| 23:21.18 | macnewbold | mindjuju_: i considered putting a guarantee, but figured by this point i'd make it look more suspicious that way... |
| 23:21.20 | TuxToaster | did he use vivint or something custom? |
| 23:21.26 | macnewbold | yeah, vivint |
| 23:21.44 | TuxToaster | how customizable is it? |
| 23:22.34 | macnewbold | there are a lot of things you can customize, but if you mean rooting the panel and running your own firmware, i don't think it does that |
| 23:22.41 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:22.49 | macnewbold | you can customize all the alerts and such pretty easily |
| 23:22.57 | macnewbold | rules for time of day, event-based, etc. |
| 23:23.08 | TuxToaster | yeah, knowing me I'd probably build my own panel with a nix distro on a mini-ITX |
| 23:23.18 | josePHPagoda | can I have it release the hounds? |
| 23:23.26 | macnewbold | the full package ties in doorlocks, lights, the security sensors, thermostat, and cameras |
| 23:23.33 | TuxToaster | * josePHPagoda presses the big red button |
| 23:23.42 | TuxToaster | *woof* *woof* in the distance |
| 23:23.45 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 23:23.53 | macnewbold | josePHPagoda: yes, if your hounds are contained by one of the doorlocks |
| 23:24.00 | josePHPagoda | lol |
| 23:24.26 | TuxToaster | macnewbold: anything for controlling blinds or curtains? Probably one of the key things I want to do involves a window that I want to shade at night |
| 23:25.04 | macnewbold | if you have something that can be plugged into an outlet, it is probably doable. The lamp/small appliance module turns power on and off to the outlet. |
| 23:25.05 | TuxToaster | been thinking I might be able to do it with an Arduino and a small motor or something |
| 23:25.25 | TuxToaster | right now I don't even have anything in the window, heh. |
| 23:25.27 | macnewbold | there would probably be some Rube Goldberg ways too, say using a doorlock |
| 23:26.07 | TuxToaster | could be interesting |
| 23:26.25 | TuxToaster | brb |
| 23:33.56 | mindjuju_ | TuxToaster, there are windows that do that |
| 23:34.16 | mindjuju_ | you run a current through the window (Somehow) and it becomes opaque |
| 23:34.58 | mindjuju_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_glass |
| 23:35.18 | *** join/#uphpu cro (~cro@204-228-149-217.ip.xmission.com) |
| 23:43.37 | TuxToaster | mindjuju_: yeah I remember seeing those a while back |
| 23:43.48 | TuxToaster | or at least some similar ones, were LCD based I believe |
| 23:45.44 | josephscott | $rlart |
| 23:45.45 | raifbot | chops pelaofeliz in half with a free AOL CD. |
| 23:46.07 | pelaofeliz | ooh! intestines! |
| 23:46.59 | josePHPagoda | ... |
| 23:47.12 | TuxToaster | I think getting an arduino and some blinds or curtains to close would be cheaper than making the window smart glass |
| 23:47.14 | josephscott | $8ball can pelaofeliz be patched up? |
| 23:47.14 | raifbot | josephscott - It is decidedly so. |
| 23:47.34 | TuxToaster | though, I think the changing glass is a worthy competitor for geek cred |
| 23:47.52 | beandog | quick, get his wallet! |
| 23:51.05 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:52.26 | TuxToaster | $rlart |
| 23:52.26 | raifbot | takes out a cattle prod and gives pelaofeliz a good jolt. |
| 23:52.49 | TuxToaster | $8ball are you picking on pelaofeliz today? |
| 23:52.49 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Yes - definitely. |
| 23:53.06 | TuxToaster | $8ball can I go home now? |
| 23:53.06 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Outlook not so good. |
| 23:53.09 | TuxToaster | doh |
| 23:53.21 | TuxToaster | $8ball how about now? |
| 23:53.21 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Outlook good. |
| 23:53.23 | TuxToaster | yay! |
| 23:53.37 | TuxToaster | pelaofeliz: lol |
| 23:55.36 | josephscott | 80s video dating - http://devour.com/video/80s-video-dating/ |
| 23:55.43 | josephscott | who comes up with this stuff? |
| 23:56.36 | beandog | why, are you looking to cash in? |
| 23:56.46 | beandog | because I have an amazing investment opportunity |
| 23:57.00 | TuxToaster | josephscott: $8ball dating. enough said. |
| 23:57.11 | beandog | lol |
| 23:57.30 | TuxToaster | example: |
| 23:57.35 | TuxToaster | $8ball does she love me? |
| 23:57.36 | raifbot | TuxToaster - It is certain. |
| 23:57.40 | beandog | lol |
| 23:58.07 | TuxToaster | $8ball will she marry me? |
| 23:58.07 | raifbot | TuxToaster - Very doubtful. |
| 23:58.18 | beandog | $8ball do I have something in my teeth |
| 23:58.19 | raifbot | beandog - My reply is no. |
| 23:58.29 | TuxToaster | lol |
| 23:58.38 | TuxToaster | see? quick and easy. |
| 23:59.00 | beandog | $8ball should I return this ring |
| 23:59.00 | raifbot | beandog - You may rely on it. |
| 23:59.06 | beandog | ~sadface |
| 23:59.07 | TuxToaster | ouch |
| 23:59.43 | TuxToaster | ok, going home for real now. Ciao! |