| 00:04.06 | mgeary | anyone know of a command line font conversion tool? i need to create a TrueType font from a Postscript font. I could swear i used to have a converter, but can't find it now | 
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| 00:13.08 | mgeary | ah, fondu, i think | 
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| 15:25.03 | josephscott | $rlart | 
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| 15:47.46 | carmony | good morning :) | 
| 15:49.12 | josephscott | howdy | 
| 15:54.01 | josephscott | mindjuju: this might be helpful for your environment : http://blogs.technet.com/b/dataplatforminsider/archive/2011/11/28/available-today-preview-release-of-the-sql-server-odbc-driver-for-linux.aspx | 
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| 16:12.17 | Monnok | Am i missing something? Does chrome not have a net panel in its version of firebug? | 
| 16:13.06 | josephscott | it's called 'Network' in chrome | 
| 16:13.58 | Monnok | ah, yes some forum is telling me that too... | 
| 16:17.59 | mindjuju | josephscott, VERY interesting | 
| 16:20.25 | josephscott | not sure if you'd used freetds or something for linux <-> sql server, that looked like another option | 
| 16:21.13 | mindjuju | we're using freetds for php<->sql | 
| 16:21.34 | mindjuju | but we found that freetds has issues with special chars, and have had to look at something else | 
| 16:22.15 | mindjuju | the sad thing about that link is that it appears to be for c/c++, are apps are written in java/php | 
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| 16:25.40 | josephscott | would be worth reaching out to the group at MS though, see if they've got something planed for java/php | 
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| 16:32.30 | mahelious | i was looking into that a month or two ago.  seem to remember two pdo libraries for mssql | 
| 16:32.46 | mahelious | one was based on sybase drivers and depended on freetds | 
| 16:34.16 | mahelious | the other (PDO_SQLSRV) was independent of freetds, but was fairly strict about lining a specific pdo driver up with whatever vers of sql server youre running | 
| 16:35.18 | mahelious | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc296170.aspx | 
| 16:36.21 | josephscott | mahelious: I think those are windows only drivers | 
| 16:36.52 | eggyknap | $weather 84637 | 
| 16:36.52 | raifbot | 3eggyknap - 0,2current weather for 84637 - Clear 26f / -3c Humidity: 85% Wind: N at 0 mph | 
| 16:37.22 | josephscott | $weather 84092 | 
| 16:37.22 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for 84092 - Clear 28f / -2c Humidity: 80% Wind: N at 0 mph | 
| 16:39.50 | josephscott | blame google | 
| 16:49.01 | mindjuju | ~seen xtrementl | 
| 16:49.10 | ibot | xtrementl <~xtrementl@neutroninteractive-xmission.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 20d 17h 56m 30s ago, saying: 'mindjuju: that's pretty awesome'. | 
| 16:49.10 | macnewbold | google is probably using noaa too | 
| 16:49.14 | macnewbold | put up your own weather station i guess? | 
| 16:52.00 | fungus | $weather Rio, Brazil | 
| 16:52.00 | raifbot | fungus - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for Rio, Brazil | 
| 16:52.06 | fungus | $weather Rio | 
| 16:52.07 | raifbot | fungus - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for Rio | 
| 16:53.37 | fungus | $weather Rio de Janeiro | 
| 16:53.38 | raifbot | 3fungus - 0,2current weather for Rio de Janeiro - Mostly Cloudy 77f / 25c Humidity: 78% Wind: SE at 7 mph | 
| 16:54.43 | mindjuju | $weather north pole | 
| 16:54.43 | raifbot | mindjuju - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for north pole | 
| 16:57.04 | josephscott | $weather north pole, alaska | 
| 16:57.05 | raifbot | 3josephscott - 0,2current weather for north pole, alaska - Light snow -11f / -24c Humidity: 77% Wind: N at 0 mph | 
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| 17:00.38 | influx | Oi. | 
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| 17:01.57 | influx | I read that Facebook imposes a 420-character limit on descriptions for shared content on walls, but I'm running into a 301-character limit. | 
| 17:02.26 | influx | Are any of you aware of a reason or of reasons for that? | 
| 17:02.40 | influx | possible reason(s) | 
| 17:18.40 | unum | 301? | 
| 17:18.58 | unum | that's an interesting number for it to stop at | 
| 17:19.12 | unum | I guess 420 isn't special either | 
| 17:19.30 | mindjuju | influx, link to a picture, it's worth a 1000 words | 
| 17:19.34 | mindjuju | limh | 
| 17:20.38 | Utah_Dave | you should all get back to wrok!!! | 
| 17:21.01 | mindjuju | yeah! | 
| 17:23.36 | influx | mindjuju: I would, but I don't know how this company would feel about something like that. | 
| 17:23.49 | mindjuju | i was kidding influx | 
| 17:31.44 | influx | mindjuju: Sorry. I left my funny hat at home. | 
| 17:32.10 | influx | :) | 
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| 17:35.48 | *** topic/#UPHPU by wps -> Big thanks to C7 for our hosting | 
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| 17:38.24 | beandog | C7? | 
| 17:38.37 | wps | Center 7 | 
| 17:38.40 | beandog | oh | 
| 17:38.59 | wps | moved the server to the bluffdale data center last night | 
| 17:39.06 | beandog | where's bluffdale | 
| 17:39.12 | wps | C7 is shutting the orem one down | 
| 17:39.25 | wps | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=bluffdale+utah&hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=57.42297,78.75&vpsrc=0&hnear=Bluffdale,+Salt+Lake,+Utah&t=m&z=13 | 
| 17:40.01 | influx | Big thanks to my C7 for supporting my head. | 
| 17:42.32 | beandog | whut | 
| 17:42.58 | josephscott | that was bone joke | 
| 17:43.04 | josephscott | s/was/was a/ | 
| 17:43.20 | josephscott | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_vertebrae | 
| 17:43.31 | wps | whut… a whut… a whut a whut a whut… I've got spirt… | 
| 17:43.36 | wps | yeah… yeah… I've got spirit | 
| 17:43.54 | eggyknap | Gotta love anatomy jokes. | 
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| 18:27.32 | mindjuju | fungus, what's that thing you always say about many eyes? | 
| 18:27.53 | mindjuju | bugs shallow | 
| 18:27.56 | mindjuju | something like that | 
| 18:28.21 | beandog | autonomy jokes write themselves | 
| 18:28.22 | beandog | har har har | 
| 18:28.54 | mindjuju | beiber jokes write themselves too | 
| 18:29.12 | beandog | -_- | 
| 18:29.15 | beandog | mindjuju didn't get it | 
| 18:29.47 | mindjuju | hands / anatomy write jokes | 
| 18:30.03 | DexterTheDragon | ~fail mindjuju | 
| 18:30.03 | ibot | mindjuju: FAIL! | 
| 18:30.06 | beandog | lol | 
| 18:30.10 | beandog | not anatomy | 
| 18:31.11 | mindjuju | ~tunafart beandog | 
| 18:31.12 | ibot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to beandog, leg raised, to let 'em rip. | 
| 18:31.21 | beandog | lol | 
| 18:33.49 | fungus | mindjuju, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linus'_Law | 
| 18:36.39 | mindjuju | thx fungus! | 
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| 19:12.35 | influx | herlo: What's the trick to auto-completing commands that are at any point in a history? | 
| 19:12.47 | influx | Say I want to run a particular thing again, but I don't want to type it all out again. | 
| 19:13.09 | Bikerdan | !number | 
| 19:14.28 | Bikerdan | Sorry... I'm not herlo.  Nevermind that. | 
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| 19:39.59 | beandog | herlo: ping | 
| 19:40.01 | beandog | er, actually | 
| 19:40.03 | beandog | jsmith: ping | 
| 19:40.05 | beandog | ~unping herlo | 
| 19:58.02 | mindjuju | ~apb wps | 
| 19:58.02 | ibot | ACTION summons baby Lyssa to spray mace at wps | 
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| 20:03.47 | beandog | lol | 
| 20:03.51 | beandog | that's great | 
| 20:25.07 | jsmith | beandog: pong | 
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| 20:25.43 | beandog | jsmith: do you use cronie | 
| 20:25.52 | jsmith | beandog: A bit... why? | 
| 20:25.54 | beandog | for cron daemon | 
| 20:26.01 | beandog | I'm trying to make sure I've got the syntax right | 
| 20:26.04 | beandog | it's not the same as vixie-cron | 
| 20:26.12 | beandog | doesn't seem to take the user as a variable on the crontab line | 
| 20:26.23 | beandog | so * * * * root /bin/foo would be vixie-cron | 
| 20:26.32 | beandog | cronie thinks root is part of the command though | 
| 20:29.19 | jsmith | Interesting... I've never seen that syntax used for anacron | 
| 20:29.39 | jsmith | or vixie-cron | 
| 20:29.52 | jsmith | Typically, if I want a cronjob to run as a non-root user, I put it in that users crontab | 
| 20:30.40 | herlo | beandog: what is the actual cron syntax you are using? | 
| 20:31.03 | herlo | also beandog: the syntax for crond *is* the same as vixie cron | 
| 20:31.07 | herlo | it's just in a file | 
| 20:31.25 | jsmith | herlo: Above he pasted "* * * * root /bin/foo" | 
| 20:31.26 | herlo | something like * * * * * [user] /path/to/script | 
| 20:31.43 | herlo | jsmith: indeed, but that was what he was using for vixie-cron, and it should work in crond | 
| 20:31.43 | beandog | http://pastebin.com/1bUyMB1W | 
| 20:31.52 | herlo | jsmith: I was just wondering if he was using something different | 
| 20:31.53 | beandog | that's what is in default for cronie, which doesn't work | 
| 20:31.59 | beandog | I had to edit it to remove root | 
| 20:32.05 | beandog | then it worked | 
| 20:32.25 | herlo | beandog: is that in /etc/crontab? | 
| 20:32.33 | beandog | that is the default /etc/crontab | 
| 20:32.46 | beandog | er, sorry, that's what I meant to say above, not cronie | 
| 20:32.55 | herlo | and I thought you were using /etc/cron.d not /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,montly} dirs | 
| 20:33.29 | beandog | I'm not worried about /etc/cron.* | 
| 20:33.39 | herlo | beandog: but you seem to be | 
| 20:33.48 | beandog | no ...... | 
| 20:33.53 | beandog | I'm worried about the correct syntax | 
| 20:34.01 | beandog | crontab -e | 
| 20:34.04 | beandog | * * * * /usr/bin/foo | 
| 20:34.07 | herlo | beandog: oh, okay | 
| 20:34.10 | beandog | not * * * * root /usr/bin/foo | 
| 20:34.18 | herlo | um, well crontab -e is specific to a user | 
| 20:34.21 | beandog | So, the default crontab that ships with Gentoo, is wrong | 
| 20:34.23 | herlo | so you wouldn't need to specify the user | 
| 20:34.28 | beandog | Hmm | 
| 20:34.30 | beandog | Good point. | 
| 20:34.32 | herlo | I don't think so | 
| 20:34.50 | herlo | /etc/crontab would have * * * * * [user] /etc/cron.daily | 
| 20:34.57 | herlo | for each | 
| 20:35.00 | beandog | one sec. | 
| 20:35.22 | herlo | I know in the newer versions of fedora cronie defaults to a set so you don't have to even have those entries | 
| 20:36.55 | beandog | Hmm.  now I'm wondering who provides this crontab file. | 
| 20:37.25 | herlo | yeah, if only you had rpm and could do rpm -qf /etc/crontab :) | 
| 20:38.24 | beandog | upstream doesn't ship with one | 
| 20:38.42 | herlo | oh, really? | 
| 20:38.55 | josephscott | $lart mysql query optimizer | 
| 20:38.55 | raifbot | beats mysql query optimizer over the head with a microkernel. | 
| 20:38.57 | herlo | wow, kind of makes it hard to run crond I guess | 
| 20:39.12 | herlo | beandog: it may be that it's not needed though | 
| 20:39.17 | beandog | herlo: not that I can see | 
| 20:39.27 | beandog | herlo: hard to know ... the documentation is non-existent | 
| 20:39.33 | beandog | which makes me want to go back to vixie anyway | 
| 20:39.38 | beandog | well, there's man pages | 
| 20:39.47 | herlo | and google | 
| 20:39.53 | herlo | but I bet it's not too prevalent yet | 
| 20:39.56 | beandog | yah I couldn't find anything | 
| 20:40.23 | herlo | that's one big problem with switching from one popular bit of software to a lesser known bit of software | 
| 20:40.31 | herlo | at least in the initial part | 
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| 20:40.53 | herlo | beandog: the example I get is this for /etc/crontab | 
| 20:40.54 | herlo | # *  *  *  *  * user-name  command to be executed | 
| 20:41.11 | beandog | herlo: right, that's the example that everything else seems to use | 
| 20:41.15 | beandog | er, syntax. | 
| 20:42.00 | herlo | I honestly haven't mucked with /etc/crontab though, since I only ever put scripts in /etc/cron.{hourly,daily,weekly,montly} or in crontab -e | 
| 20:42.21 | herlo | crond runs the scripts on time for me | 
| 20:42.42 | herlo | but if I want to run it at an arbitrary time, I use /etc/cron.d/{my_script} | 
| 20:42.54 | beandog | herlo: it's irrelevant though whether it's in /etc/crontab or crontab -e | 
| 20:43.03 | beandog | I'm talking about the syntax, not where it's put | 
| 20:43.06 | beandog | basically | 
| 20:43.11 | herlo | well, it's a bit important | 
| 20:43.12 | beandog | cronie's syntax != vixie's syntax | 
| 20:43.13 | beandog | that's throwing me off | 
| 20:43.15 | herlo | agreed | 
| 20:43.46 | herlo | the problem is that /etc/crontab has *nothing* to do with a users' cron | 
| 20:44.09 | herlo | so I keep thinking you want to talk about the system cron vs the user's cron | 
| 20:44.13 | herlo | sorry | 
| 20:44.24 | beandog | no, just syntax | 
| 20:44.28 | beandog | I guess I'll use vixie instead | 
| 20:44.35 | beandog | I was switching from fcron, fwiw | 
| 20:44.45 | herlo | oh, wow, never heard of fcron | 
| 20:44.53 | herlo | so in crontab -e it should just be | 
| 20:44.57 | herlo | * * * * * script | 
| 20:45.01 | herlo | correct? | 
| 20:45.06 | beandog | herlo: for cronie, yes | 
| 20:45.20 | herlo | so what's the problem with that? | 
| 20:45.28 | jtsnow | anyone use the phpredis library? | 
| 20:45.45 | herlo | jtsnow: ask carmony or josephscott, I bet they've dealt with it :) | 
| 20:46.36 | josephscott | there are a few of them out there last time I looked, I don't recall which one carmony is  using in production | 
| 20:47.45 | jtsnow | carmony, josephscott: Ever had apache processes continue running for a long time with open connections to Redis when using phpredis? | 
| 20:48.45 | josephscott | I've never used it with apache, but my first guess would be a persistent connection setting | 
| 20:49.11 | josephscott | are you using pconnect, popen ? | 
| 20:49.17 | jtsnow | yes, pconnect | 
| 20:49.32 | josephscott | then it's doing what you asked | 
| 20:50.14 | carmony | yup, what josephscott said :) | 
| 20:50.19 | josephscott | a persistent connection is going to stay open, instead of closing when a page request is done | 
| 20:50.48 | josephscott | if you don't want that you should look at connect, open instead | 
| 20:51.42 | jtsnow | yeah, I thought pconnect would save resources since the connections could be reused instead of opening a new connection for each request | 
| 20:52.28 | jtsnow | ran for about 3 weeks with no problems using pconnect, but suddenly server load is high due to so many apache processes | 
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| 21:19.21 | mindjuju | <whisper>when responsible animal owners let their dogs go off the leash - http://news.yahoo.com/4-pit-bulls-destroyed-mauling-2-calif-runners-153056708.html </whisper> | 
| 21:19.34 | mindjuju | mgeary^^ | 
| 21:20.04 | mindjuju | you really should learn to lighten up in your beliefs of not letting animals run free | 
| 21:20.13 | mgeary | jeeze. 8 dogs?! | 
| 21:20.25 | mgeary | well, still, this is America, dammit! Land of the FREE | 
| 21:20.33 | mindjuju | yeah, they hunt mice and kill off little vermin and stuff | 
| 21:20.35 | mindjuju | tsk tsk | 
| 21:21.00 | mindjuju | :) | 
| 21:27.28 | ninnypants1 | why the heck would you ever let 8 dogs just roam near a trail | 
| 21:28.10 | herlo | mindjuju: ping | 
| 21:28.22 | mindjuju | sup | 
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| 21:28.51 | herlo | mindjuju: need some minecraft help | 
| 21:29.27 | herlo | mindjuju: ping again | 
| 21:52.37 | mindjuju | DtD, you around? | 
| 21:52.44 | mindjuju | ~apb DtD | 
| 21:52.44 | ibot | ACTION summons Leland to find DtD | 
| 21:52.54 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: settle down | 
| 21:53.21 | mindjuju | d00d, i just downloaded some good stuff | 
| 21:53.30 | mindjuju | i was going to send ya the link, but i think they pulled it down? | 
| 21:53.42 | mindjuju | it was a post from dj baby anne though so se's the artist | 
| 21:53.52 | mindjuju | maybe i'lld ropbox it to ya | 
| 21:55.41 | carmony | DexterTheDragon: nice facebook profile :P | 
| 21:56.13 | beandog | herlo: sorry got sucked into a meeting | 
| 21:56.37 | herlo | np | 
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| 21:58.38 | DexterTheDragon | carmony: that was made by Shepard Fairey | 
| 21:58.48 | beandog | herlo: I got confused because I assumed cronie syntax was same as fcron/vixie ... and got confused when my cron jobs weren't running.  So I wanted to verify I had cronie's syntax right, in removing the user it's running as in crontab lines ... which never made much sense to me anyway | 
| 21:58.51 | mindjuju | DtD, try this http://www.mediafire.com/?h1qkj6fsbnnyieq | 
| 21:58.56 | beandog | anyway, problem solved | 
| 21:59.02 | mindjuju | it's posted by baby anne, so es legit | 
| 21:59.02 | beandog | and the villagers rejoiced | 
| 21:59.25 | herlo | beandog: cool | 
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| 22:00.01 | mindjuju | here is the abbrv version http://t.co/f8orubqd | 
| 22:00.08 | beandog | herlo: it just took me a bit to figure it out, because in messages it was saying root^I/usr/bin/foo | 
| 22:00.44 | beandog | silly cron | 
| 22:00.50 | beandog | ~lart mgeary | 
| 22:00.50 | ibot | keeps mailing mgeary free America Online CDs until he drowns | 
| 22:01.00 | beandog | I lol'd | 
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| 22:02.00 | herlo | beandog: glad you got it working :) | 
| 22:02.45 | beandog | yarr | 
| 22:02.54 | beandog | unhappy cron = unhappy beandog | 
| 22:06.19 | mindjuju | ~give unhappy beandog a cookie | 
| 22:06.20 | ibot | ACTION gives unhappy beandog a home-baked lemon cookie to cheer him up. | 
| 22:06.26 | beandog | nice | 
| 22:09.26 | skinner | ~give beandog 16 gallons of internets | 
| 22:09.26 | ibot | ACTION gives 16 gallons of internets to beandog | 
| 22:09.34 | beandog | nice | 
| 22:09.37 | beandog | I can use it to make eggnog | 
| 22:09.50 | herlo | ooh, eggnog sounds yummy right now | 
| 22:09.58 | skinner | Mmmmm, love the smell of hot eggnog internets in the morning | 
| 22:10.31 | mindjuju | eggyknap = mindjuju bane | 
| 22:10.42 | mindjuju | oops, eggnog, not eggyknap! | 
| 22:11.36 | herlo | mindjuju: really? | 
| 22:16.40 | herlo | http://sn.im/20yynpq <-- looks familiar, doesn't he? | 
| 22:16.55 | mindjuju | who dat? | 
| 22:17.00 | mindjuju | jsmith^^ | 
| 22:17.51 | herlo | lol | 
| 22:17.53 | mahelious | at first i thought that must have been from the early 90s.  why do we still publish that poorly? | 
| 22:18.22 | herlo | mahelious: what do you mean? | 
| 22:18.27 | herlo | are you referring to the layout? | 
| 22:18.33 | mahelious | right | 
| 22:18.35 | herlo | because you can still screw up a layout with good tools | 
| 22:19.09 | herlo | albeit, I don't think the layout is that poor | 
| 22:21.44 | mahelious | i still have a fedora 1 dvd that i downloaded from duke.  cant believe how quickly its grown | 
| 22:22.11 | ninnypants | anyone use google's custom search engine tool? | 
| 22:22.48 | ninnypants | wondering if it has an api that I can use rather than having to put a search box into teh page | 
| 22:36.25 | DexterTheDragon | ninnypants: xtrementl might know | 
| 22:39.16 | xtrementl | have you looked here? http://code.google.com/apis/customsearch/docs/api.html | 
| 22:43.03 | jsmith | If anyone is looking for a work-from-home job doing awesome work in PHP and VoIP, please let me know. | 
| 22:43.30 | mindjuju | ~awesome jsmith | 
| 22:43.56 | jsmith | If I didn't already have the best job in the world, I'd consider this one :-) | 
| 22:44.22 | mindjuju | is it working for jsmith Co. ? | 
| 22:44.56 | jsmith | No, it'd be working for a friend of mine | 
| 22:45.03 | herlo | mahelious: I'd love to see what FC1 looked like. Didn't get into it until FC4 | 
| 22:45.06 | jsmith | (Who can't seem to find enough good PHP programmers) | 
| 22:45.13 | ninnypants | xtrementl: I hadn't seen that one found most of what I needed on this one though http://code.google.com/intl/en/apis/customsearch/v1/getting_started.html | 
| 22:45.24 | jsmith | herlo: archive.fedoraproject.org :-p | 
| 22:45.30 | herlo | http://xmission.com/jobs | 
| 22:45.38 | herlo | jsmith: hehe, well there's that :) | 
| 22:45.46 | Nafai | must. resist. making. smart-alec. comment. about. PHP. | 
| 22:45.58 | herlo | I'd have to build up an i386 vm... | 
| 22:46.33 | herlo | oh, even x86_64, nice | 
| 22:46.57 | herlo | haha, 3 discs | 
| 22:48.49 | jsmith | herlo: Or, in particular, it looked like this: http://jsmith.fedorapeople.org/fc1.png | 
| 22:49.12 | herlo | hehe | 
| 22:49.26 | jsmith | Nostalgia isn't what it used to be... | 
| 22:49.34 | herlo | never was | 
| 22:49.42 | herlo | we just think it was :) | 
| 22:51.04 | mahelious | mindjuju: yeah, godaddys been bugging me for the last month about that. | 
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| 23:07.22 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: Do you have minute for a question? | 
| 23:07.32 | josephscott | Utah_Dave: sure, what's up? | 
| 23:08.23 | Utah_Dave | in the "after_save" option in jeip, can I call a function I've created? Or do I have to create an anonymous function right there? | 
| 23:09.16 | Utah_Dave | I have a "refreshdata()" function that I call in a couple .onclick triggers that works with buttons, I'd like to call that function once the data is saved. | 
| 23:09.39 | josephscott | if it accepts a function you can do it either way | 
| 23:10.06 | josephscott | javascript will accept a function name, or an anonymous function | 
| 23:10.33 | Utah_Dave | so would that line be   "after_save"  => refreshdata() | 
| 23:10.56 | macnewbold | almost | 
| 23:11.05 | macnewbold | that would call refreshdata(), | 
| 23:11.35 | macnewbold | you probably want "after_save" => 'refreshdata' (in php) or refreshdata (in js) | 
| 23:11.59 | macnewbold | functionname rather than functionname() | 
| 23:12.21 | macnewbold | if you have the parens on, it would set your after_save to the _result_ of refreshdata() rather than the refreshdata function itself | 
| 23:14.50 | Utah_Dave | Hmm.   It's still not executing refreshdata | 
| 23:14.58 | josephscott | correct, similar to how a callback works in PHP, one example being array_map : http://us.php.net/array_map | 
| 23:15.15 | josephscott | Utah_Dave: I wouldn't rule out a bug in my code some where :-) | 
| 23:15.24 | josephscott | anything show up error wise in the console? | 
| 23:16.46 | Utah_Dave | nothing is showing up in Chrome's javascript console | 
| 23:18.23 | Utah_Dave | and nothing in firefox. | 
| 23:21.46 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: here's that whole block.    http://pastebin.com/YuFdsS3V | 
| 23:22.11 | josephscott | put quotes around refreshdata | 
| 23:22.21 | josephscott | the function name is a string | 
| 23:22.27 | josephscott | oh, wait | 
| 23:22.29 | josephscott | that is PHP | 
| 23:22.38 | josephscott | still a string I guess | 
| 23:22.50 | Utah_Dave | Yeah, that doesn't work either way. | 
| 23:23.28 | Utah_Dave | Does it matter where the <script> is in the page?   The function is in a <script> block down at the bottom, not in the head | 
| 23:23.56 | josephscott | as long as it is processed in the right order, doesn't matter in regards to footer or head | 
| 23:24.13 | josephscott | performance is better when JS is the last think in the HTML | 
| 23:24.32 | Utah_Dave | that's what I thought. | 
| 23:26.19 | josephscott | anything the PHP error logs? | 
| 23:30.05 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: I should be able to do this, right?    "after_save"   => "function(){ alert('yes!'); };" | 
| 23:30.16 | josephscott | yes | 
| 23:30.52 | Utah_Dave | that's not working either.   Maybe I need to take a step back and see if something else isn't right. | 
| 23:31.04 | Utah_Dave | Everything else is working. | 
| 23:31.27 | Utah_Dave | I can click on the text, update it, it updates the database and displays the new data. | 
| 23:32.01 | Utah_Dave | I just can't get it to run that function once it's finished. That would be very nice.  Right now I have a button that the user can click to update the data totals. | 
| 23:39.23 | Utah_Dave | josephscott: I think I got it, the after_save is an option to the eip function, not something to be returned in the json response. | 
| 23:39.28 | Utah_Dave | that fixed it. | 
| 23:39.36 | josephscott | oh, yep, that is true :-) | 
| 23:39.43 | Utah_Dave | :)   I knew I was almost there.  Now it's working great! | 
| 23:39.50 | josephscott | sorry, I wasn't paying enough attention | 
| 23:40.34 | Utah_Dave | thanks for helping talk my way through troubleshooting it.  I was sure I was just missing something simple, like reading the docs correctly.  :) | 
| 23:41.17 | josephscott | hehe | 
| 23:41.23 | josephscott | glad it is working for you | 
| 23:42.25 | Utah_Dave | Your code will now live forever in some deep dark corner of the government | 
| 23:42.54 | josephscott | fun | 
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| 23:46.11 | beandog | in committee |