IRC log for #uphpu on 20110208

00:01.57TuxToaster$8ball time to go home now?
00:01.57raifbotTuxToaster - Without a doubt.
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00:17.30SunSparcWell, it WAS decent weather earlier.  Now a blizzard will ice every road.  Better head home.
00:17.35SunSparcLater allz.
00:21.18josephscott$weather sandy, ut
00:21.19raifbotjosephscott -* current weather for sandy, ut - Showers 36f / 2c Humidity: 76% Wind: N at 20 mph
00:21.36TuxToasteroi
00:24.41eggyknap$help
00:24.49eggyknap(it was a shot in the dark)
00:25.57TuxToasterlol
00:26.53josephscottI should post some docs some where, that $help could at least point to URL with more info
00:27.40eggyknap$weather tallin, estonia
00:27.40raifboteggyknap - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for tallin, estonia
00:27.43eggyknapBummer.
00:27.51eggyknap$weather tallinn, estonia
00:27.51raifboteggyknap - current weather for tallinn, estonia - Light snow 33f / 1c Humidity: 96% Wind: S at 7 mph
00:27.56eggyknap(helps if I remember how to spell)
00:29.22TuxToaster$weather Sydney
00:29.23raifbotTuxToaster - current weather for Sydney - Mostly Cloudy 70f / 21c Humidity: 68% Wind: W at 5 mph
00:29.31TuxToasterhmm. need to go there.
00:29.34TuxToasteror even
00:29.38TuxToaster$weather Miami
00:29.38raifbotTuxToaster - current weather for Miami - Partly Cloudy 77f / 25c Humidity: 67% Wind: SW at 13 mph
00:30.33eggyknap$weather anywhere-but-here
00:30.33raifboteggyknap - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for anywhere-but-here
00:33.41josephscott$weather sacramento
00:33.41raifbotjosephscott - current weather for sacramento - Partly Cloudy 68f / 20c Humidity: 52% Wind: S at 5 mph
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00:45.07supernovia$8ball since I remembered to add the 8 this time, will I be able to get through a movie before my power goes out?
00:45.07raifbotsupernovia - You may rely on it.
00:46.04supernoviaw00ts
00:46.32supernovia$8ball even if I wait for a few hours?
00:46.32raifbotsupernovia - Very doubtful.
00:47.04supernoviaboo.
00:47.15ninnypantspower issues up there?
00:47.39supernoviaYeah I keep getting brown-outs
00:48.12ninnypants$8ball did my mom believe me when I said I'd be putting elk bones in my blender regularly?
00:48.13raifbotninnypants - My sources say no.
00:48.30ninnypantssupernovia: that sucks luckly we haven't had any issues yet
00:48.48eggyknap$8ball will $baby let me sleep tonight?
00:48.49raifboteggyknap - It is certain.
00:48.55ninnypantsstorm is pretty mellow here
00:48.59eggyknapI think that's the first positive answer I've seen 8ball give :)
00:49.12supernoviaElkbones? Rad
00:49.22ninnypants8ball is usually pretty synical
00:49.38supernovia$8ball should I stay in my current relationship? :-D
00:49.39raifbotsupernovia - It is decidedly so.
00:49.40ninnypantssupernovia: yeah I get them from a local butcher we'll see how it goes
00:49.51supernoviaYay! (I'm officially in love with life :-D)
00:49.58ninnypantssweet!
00:50.14supernoviaCool :)  I didn't get hold of Tom btw so I'm not sure what else you should stick in there
00:50.36supernoviadude never checks his email & isn't at his desk :-D but I'll find him sometime soon
00:50.58ninnypantsthat's ok I'm still researching what I should feed them so it's all good
00:51.12ninnypantsand shakes or something will do for tonight :)
00:51.14supernoviaI think there are recipes online but most of them don't count on you blending stuff whole
00:51.17supernovia:-D
00:51.27supernoviathick shakes?
00:51.37ninnypantsvery
00:51.44supernoviaawesome
00:51.50supernoviaare you going to make your own icecream too?
00:52.09ninnypantsnot tonight but probably will in the future
00:52.50supernoviafor DQ-like shakes, I usually tell people to pulse their chunky ingredients first, then make soft-serve icecream, then add the chunky stuff and do speed 1 for a few seconds
00:53.09supernoviaor if you use hard icecream, you'll want to make it soft-servish with a little milk, and then proceed
00:53.28supernovia(it'll still work the other way, just you don't want your ingredients to get too smooth, typically)
00:53.39ninnypantsyeah makes sense
00:53.55ninnypantsthis blender may make me fat
00:53.55supernoviaand you'll have to scrape the sides, etc. just use speed 1 for super thick stuffs.
00:54.07supernovianahhh! you can make green smoothies to offset it all :)
00:54.31ninnypantsyeah we're thinking we'll do that for breakfast from now on
00:54.58ninnypantsthough I may try to copy the captin crunch shake carl's jr used to have
00:55.52supernoviaoh  yah? hehe
00:56.24ninnypantsyeah they were good and I've got plenty of captin crunch laying around
00:56.46ninnypants:)
00:56.59supernoviaperfect :-D
00:57.12supernoviaI once made a PBJ shake (at the kids request)
00:57.17mgearyewww
00:57.20ninnypantscan't wait to see how it does with the dog food though :)
00:57.23supernoviait had bread in it and everything, so I thought it'd be really gross
00:57.30supernoviabut it was actually quite tasty
00:57.30mgearyyou know what's particularly not good? mint + peanut butter
00:57.30ninnypantsthat sounds delicious!
00:57.46ninnypantsmgeary: that sounds terrible
00:57.53mgearyyeah
00:57.55supernoviamint+pb .. hmm, does sound less-than-good
00:58.03supernoviabut i have had peanuts and after-dinner-mints
00:58.05supernoviaand that's not so bad
00:58.26ninnypantspeanuts and peanutbutter taste different though
00:58.28supernoviathose little buttermint pillow thingys
00:58.32supernoviayou think so?
00:58.40mgearyturns out Reeses PB cups tend to take on the aroma/essence of whatever they've been stored with. I had some alongside some mints (lifesavers), and ... yuck
00:58.50mgearythey were even wrapped in foil, but even so
00:58.53supernoviathat'd be weird :T
00:59.11supernovianinnypants: you can make homemade peanut butter and peanut  butter cups
00:59.13supernovia:-D
01:00.14ninnypantsI saw the peanut butter on the box and figured you could. How does it do with thins like wheat? would it make it into flower or is it too small to start with?
01:00.25supernoviaanyway. I'm gonna sign off here. call me if you have any usage questions, ninnypants. the manual sucks, honestly, but I know all the tricks now
01:00.45ninnypantssupernovia: thanks will do
01:01.07supernoviaIt makes flour just fine. Takes a few seconds at speed 6-7 or so
01:01.27ninnypantssweet! now that 50 pounds of wheat I have may be useful
01:01.48supernoviabut it will cloud your jar over time just so ya know. little scratches. but it's not a big deal if you don't mind.
01:02.32supernoviayup. we love making homemade flour, powdered sugar, snow.. :-)
01:02.38supernoviaanyway. I'm off for reals now. Seeya
01:04.54ninnypantsanyone use the jquery validate plugin?
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02:26.41josephscott$weather sandy, ut
02:26.41raifbotjosephscott - current weather for sandy, ut - Snow 31f / -1c Humidity: 86% Wind: NW at 18 mph
02:26.51josephscottlooks like I'll be shoveling snow tonight :-)
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02:44.20herlo$weather murray, ut
02:44.20raifbotherlo - current weather for murray, ut - Snow 33f / 1c Humidity: 87% Wind: NW at 14 mph
02:47.12josephscott$chuck-fact
02:47.12raifbotWhen Chuck Norris had surgery, the anesthesia was applied to the doctors.
02:47.26josephscott$8ball any way I can get Chuck Norris to shovel my driveway?
02:47.26raifbotjosephscott - Yes.
02:47.35josephscottsweet
02:50.33josephscott$8ball do you know what method I need to use?
02:50.33raifbotjosephscott - Very doubtful.
03:04.18josephscottthe ad&d action http://www.hulu.com/watch/212754/community-advanced-dungeons-and-dragons
03:19.44josephscott$chuck-fact
03:19.45raifbotChuck Norris can sit in the corner of a circular room
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15:54.30Utah_DaveI recently upgraded to a new server and I'm noticing an odd behavior
15:54.49Utah_DaveWhen I would run my deploy scripts on the older server everything would just work.
15:55.32Utah_DaveOn the new server, once I deploy I get an HTTP Error 500
15:55.38Utah_Daveuntil I restart apache
15:55.42Utah_Daveand then it works.
15:55.58mindjujucurious
15:56.20mindjujuthe page that you pull up, is it an HTML page or a PHP page?
15:56.27mindjujuguessing PHP
15:56.33Utah_DaveThey're both running the latest Ubuntu server. The only difference is that the newer is 64 bit
15:56.39Utah_Davemindjuju: yeah, it's php
15:56.58mindjujudo you think it has to do something with php settings that require httpd reboot to load?
15:59.08Utah_DaveI'm not sure.  In the apache error log I'm getting a fatal error because a class in my codeigniter install can't be found. But it goes away after restarting apache
15:59.15Utah_DaveI wonder if it's a caching issue.
15:59.24mindjujuah
15:59.33Utah_DaveIt's not a big deal for me to restart apache, but I was just curious.
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16:05.29Utah_Davehey, mindjuju.  You said you had done some pdf stuff with php, right?
16:06.16mindjujuyup, on 2 occassions
16:06.33mindjujumaking legal forms with inserted data PHP - > PDF
16:06.39Utah_DaveIs it possible to open an existing pdf file to use as a template and add stuff to it?
16:06.53mindjujuand taking an RTF, inserting data (with PHP) and creating PDFs (harder)
16:06.59jsmithUtah_Dave: Yeah, most of the PDF libraries for PHP allow you do do that
16:07.20Utah_Davedo either of you have a library preference?
16:07.32Utah_DaveI'm seeing fpdf and tcpdf in google results
16:07.47mindjujuhmm, i didn't actually manipulate an existing pdf, just creation
16:07.53mindjujubut fpdf i did use, and Iliked
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16:08.47Utah_DaveI'm browsing the fpdf docs right now
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17:11.46TuxToaster$chuck-fact
17:11.46raifbotChuck Norris can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
17:13.07mindjujuthis article that cameron moll posted on is interesting - http://www.andyrutledge.com/profit-lies-theft-and-idiocy.php
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17:16.40TuxToasterI like it.
17:17.04mindjujuits interesting, isn't it
17:17.06macnewbold$8ball will today be stressful?
17:17.06raifbotmacnewbold - It is decidedly so.
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17:20.15mgeary~doubt raifbot
17:20.15ibotACTION looks suspiciously at raifbot
17:20.24TuxToastermacnewbold: you should try asking the bot if it will be a good day instead. Optimism, my friend, optimism.
17:22.29TuxToaster$8ball will today be a good day? (say yes)
17:22.29raifbotTuxToaster - Yes - definitely.
17:22.35TuxToasterthank you, raifbot.
17:22.36TuxToaster:P
17:45.22mgearya day can be both stressful and good
17:45.37mgearyspeaking of which, my boy was a winner at the science fair. Moving on to the district fair
17:45.44mgearywoot
17:45.50wpscongrats, mgeary
17:46.02wpswhat'd he make?
17:46.35mindjujucongrats mgeary
17:46.45mgearyhis question was, "Is it possible to use static electricity for practical purposes, such as lighting a light bulb?"
17:47.11mgearyhypothesis was "no", but the actual answer was, yes, it is possible, but no, it's not really practical
17:47.34mgearyhis display was hugely popular because we turned on the Van de Graaff generator and did a bunch of demos
17:47.50mindjujulove van de graff machines
17:48.05mgearyi think for next year, we'll make one from scratch
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17:48.12mgearythey're surprisingly simple to make
17:48.39supernoviawhat is?
17:48.47mgearya Van de Graaff generator
17:48.57supernoviaAh.
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17:56.42TuxToastermgeary: congrats!
17:57.28TuxToastersupernovia: a styrofoam ball and tin foil?
17:57.36TuxToasteror were you going for something different
17:57.52TuxToasterseems like that would be the easiest way to pull one off, though I've never tried :-)
17:59.07supernoviaI actually just need to papermache a punching ball at this point
17:59.19supernoviaand then you cut up old CDs (but not burnable CDs)
17:59.25supernoviaand glue them to the ball
17:59.41supernoviaI tried gluing them to a bouncy ball and that was a fail.. got most of the way done and the ball popped ;-o
18:09.58TuxToasteroof
18:18.18supernoviayeah all my "mirrors" came off. Sadness.
18:19.15mindjujuvery interesting
18:19.46mindjujuVERY interesting
18:19.55mindjujuyou know supernovia, you've given me an idea
18:20.04supernoviaYeah?
18:20.27supernoviaShall we all have a discoball making party at my house in case ya'll need them for work too?
18:20.29DexterTheDragonare you thinking what I'm thinking, mindjuju?
18:20.34supernovianarf!
18:21.35macnewboldneed a stiffer ball - maybe styrofoam core?
18:21.36SunSparcnarf?!  lol
18:21.51mindjujudisco balls are pretty dated, what would a new disco ball look like?  what if you took some cds, some small pins and a ton of rubber bands.  you take a pin, pull the rubber band through the hole and put a pin through the band loop, then, do the same for the other side of the band
18:22.03mindjujui don't think you need a ball, just more cds to feel the gap
18:22.29mindjujuyou could make a cube easy enough with the cds for the sides forcing the space and putting tension on the bands to keep it together
18:22.46mindjujulike i say, a cube would be easy enough, but how to take that into a ball?
18:23.06mindjujumaybe something along the lines of a bucky ball?
18:24.08mindjujues cool?
18:25.42wpsslow day at work, mindjuju ?
18:26.04DexterTheDragonmindjuju: companion cube is your friend
18:26.56mindjujuno, actually quite busy, but there is always time for experimentation
18:27.35mindjujugood point DtD, i could draw hearts on it and give it to wife for Valentines day
18:27.41mindjujucourse, she hasn't played portal
18:27.55mindjujui still can't believe i destroyed my companion cube
18:28.06mindjujudarn that glados
18:28.26supernoviahehe, cube would be fun mindjuju
18:29.12supernoviain fact our summer project might be making a bead curtain :-o
18:29.13josephscott$8ball a cube for a disco ball?
18:29.14raifbotjosephscott - Outlook not so good.
18:29.25TuxToasterlol
18:29.31mindjujui'm going to build one and hang it on the sprinkler over my desk, that way when there is a fire, it'll be disco inferno
18:29.39supernoviaAWESOME
18:30.12TuxToasterLOL
18:30.34TuxToastermindjuju: need to have something that plays Stayin' Alive
18:30.45mindjujuthe fire alarm
18:31.02TuxToasterplus some non-disco songs would go well too, Great Balls of Fire?
18:31.10mindjujuoh yeah!
18:31.17TuxToasterwho says fire alarms can't be entertaining.
18:31.38wpsamazing: I took the day off today and have only received one email from work
18:31.55TuxToasterwow
18:32.54jsmithwps: You took the day off work, but are anxiously checking your work email?  I'm not sure what lessons we can draw from that...
18:33.02TuxToasterwhen I went on vacation I didn't just get tons of e-mails, I ended up on a conference call with the other developers. In the middle of Disneyland.
18:33.12wpsI'm not anxiously checking
18:33.20wpsin fact, I'm quite proud of my self control
18:33.23wpsI've only checked twice
18:33.31wpsonce around 9:00 and then again just now
18:33.35TuxToasterjsmith: it's a hard habit to break sometimes.
18:33.37wpsto make sure there weren't any SOS emails
18:34.42supernoviaI'd tell them to call me if there were trouble, but there wouldn't be.
18:34.47supernoviaAh, the glories of working part time.
18:34.58TuxToaster:P
18:36.01TuxToasterI really don't take days off very often (usually only for things like a friday for a weekend family reunion, etc.)
18:36.36TuxToasterbut seems like any time I have off I always get calls or an email about *something*
18:36.45wpsI was supposed to have friday off but ended up putting out fires all day friday and saturday so I told them I wasn't coming in today
18:43.10TuxToasterwps: sounds like you needed mindjuju's fire disco cube.
18:43.21wpsmost definitely
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18:47.34TuxToasterhehe
18:48.41TuxToasterwhy does cheezburger have to keep changing how they do their sites?
18:49.41SeKtAyo :)
18:49.52TuxToasterthey used to have tons of separate sites (too many, even) like oddlyspecific.com... then they moved to oddlyspecific.failblog.org, now they are moving them to just tags.
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19:27.37SunSparcTuxToaster: you should just make a whole new site, but steal all their content and display it the way you want it, and call it Ching.
19:28.07carmonyoh wow, you know today's google logo?
19:28.29SunSparcYeah, with accelerometer enabled?
19:28.41carmonyyeah! I didn't know my mac had an accelorometer
19:29.41carmonyso my MBP works with it too
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19:37.46SunSparccarmony: Yep, way cool!
19:48.29TuxToasterSunSparc: lol.
19:48.34TuxToastercha-Ching
19:48.44SunSparc:)
20:22.00TuxToaster$rlart
20:22.00raifbotforces TuxToaster to use Outlook Express.
20:22.05TuxToasterdoh!
20:23.08TuxToaster$8ball is raifbot obsessed with Outlook?
20:23.08raifbotTuxToaster - My sources say no.
20:23.19TuxToaster$8ball your sources are biased.
20:23.19raifbotTuxToaster - My sources say no.
20:23.24TuxToastersee what I mean?
20:23.47TuxToaster$8ball should I force you to use Outlook Express?
20:23.48raifbotTuxToaster - Yes - definitely.
20:23.51TuxToasterhaha
20:24.17influx$8ball will you retaliate?
20:24.18raifbotinflux - My reply is no.
20:24.22influxWow.
20:24.38TuxToaster$8ball is your inbox still full?
20:24.39raifbotTuxToaster - Signs point to yes.
20:24.50TuxToaster$8ball are you going to check your e-mail then?
20:24.50raifbotTuxToaster - My reply is no.
20:24.57TuxToasterlol
20:25.17TuxToaster$8ball what would you tell Chuck Norris if he made you check your e-mail?
20:25.17raifbotTuxToaster - As I see it, yes.
20:25.29TuxToasterdang. was hoping for an Outlook answer there.
20:25.39josephscottgotta have yes or no answerable questions
20:25.48josephscott$8ball does Chuck Norris check your email?
20:25.49raifbotjosephscott - Outlook not so good.
20:25.52josephscottsee :-)
20:25.58TuxToasterwell, technically that was answerable... he said he'd tell him 'yes'
20:26.07TuxToasterwhich is a good answer, if Chuck is on the other end.
20:26.49TuxToaster$8ball are you a sockpuppet for josephscott's alter ego?
20:26.49raifbotTuxToaster - Most likely.
20:26.55josephscottlol
20:27.02TuxToaster:-D
20:27.21josephscott$8ball are you ever going to stop teasing TuxToaster ?
20:27.22raifbotjosephscott - Don't count on it.
20:27.34TuxToastersounds about right
20:29.59bhosiei'm working on an example from the simplexml docs http://www.php.net/manual/en/simplexml.examples-basic.php . In my output, i'm only receiving the first <title> key and not all 3 when i run this script -> http://pastebin.com/04AkSE6e
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20:33.59TuxToasterbhosie: that's because you're not looping through each event
20:34.15TuxToasteryou're telling it to loop through event->title
20:34.17TuxToasterso it only sees one
20:34.36bhosieoh hmm
20:35.49TuxToasterbhosie: try foreach($xml->event as $event) {
20:35.56TuxToasterthen echo $event->title in the loop
20:36.11bhosieTuxToaster: oh, i get it :P
20:37.13bhosieTuxToaster: yep, that does it. i get why now. :)
20:40.08TuxToasterawesome
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20:46.37fatal3rrPING
20:46.48SeKtArequest time out
20:46.54fatal3rrrats
20:46.55fatal3rrI knew it
20:46.56macnewboldPONG
20:47.03TuxToasterooh, pong!
20:47.04macnewboldPONG
20:47.11macnewbolderror: duplicate response received
20:47.20fatal3rr|     .|
20:47.21TuxToasteroh wait, you didn't mean the game. /me goes back to work
20:47.21TuxToasterlol
20:48.16josephscott$chuck-fact
20:48.16raifbotIf you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death.
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21:19.47mgearyyou know, i always thought that if you moved a domain with an ssl cert, you'd have to generate a new CSR from the new machine. Apparently you can just copy the files right over...
21:19.49mgearygood to know
21:23.49mgearyhey, y'all mind giving me some data? I'd like to know who here has gotten a raise in the last 12 months, and the approximate percentage of that raise, if you got one.
21:24.53TuxToastermgeary: yup, just need the key and the cert, they are not tied to a specific machine (I used to think the same)
21:24.57jsmithmgeary: Does job hopping count?
21:25.03mgearyjsmith: no
21:25.03mindjujuwell, i got a new job with an increase of pay
21:25.08mindjujuoh
21:25.11mindjuju:p
21:25.14jsmithmindjuju: You don't count either :-(
21:25.34mindjujuyeah, that's cuz we're l337, we're outliers we buck the trend
21:25.34TuxToastermgeary: no raise in the last two years, unless you count getting my agreed salary back after having taken a "temporary" paycut. :P
21:25.36mindjuju^5
21:26.05mgearyTuxToaster: noted
21:29.22macnewbold$8ball bacon?
21:29.22raifbotmacnewbold - Yes - definitely.
21:29.39TuxToasterlol
21:29.46mgeary$8ball, tofu?
21:29.47raifbotmgeary - Cannot predict now.
21:29.52TuxToaster$8bal I can has cheezburger?
21:29.56TuxToasterdoh
21:29.59TuxToaster$8ball I can has cheezburger?
21:29.59raifbotTuxToaster - Reply hazy, try again.
21:30.10TuxToaster~lart raifbot
21:30.10ibotcats /dev/urandom into raifbot's ear
21:30.15TuxToaster$8ball I can has cheezburger?
21:30.15raifbotTuxToaster - My sources say no.
21:30.31macnewbold~soupnazi
21:30.31ibotNO SOUP FOR YOU
21:30.42mindjujunice
21:31.03mindjujubrb, got to clone a server and prep for VM
21:33.52influxsmushes*
21:33.58influxnonexistent
21:34.09mgearyso NO ONE got a raise in the last year?!
21:34.18influxmgeary: No.
21:34.19mgearybesides those that changed jobs
21:35.21fatal3rr$chuck-fact
21:35.22raifbotChuck Norris once stabbed a knife with a human being.
21:35.33fatal3rrheh
21:35.38fatal3rrI changed jobs as well
21:35.44fatal3rrIt was for more money
21:35.51fatal3rrno raise tho
21:36.35TuxToastermgeary: actually at least one of my coworkers did, though I don't know the percentage.
21:37.47fatal3rr$weather Hooker Corner
21:37.47raifbotfatal3rr - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for Hooker Corner
21:37.53fatal3rr$weather Hooker Corner, Indiana
21:37.53raifbotfatal3rr - current weather for Hooker Corner, Indiana - Partly Cloudy 14f / -10c Humidity: 59% Wind: W at 8 mph
21:38.13fatal3rreish
21:42.00SunSparcI am pretty sure I would not want to live in that town, just so that I would not have to say that I lived there.
21:42.27fatal3rrI just like to keep an eye on the weather there
21:43.40SunSparcRiiiight...
21:44.11TuxToasterlol
21:44.19fatal3rrDont want mah hoes gettin too comfy, you know
21:44.21fatal3rrlol
21:44.30SunSparcGood point
21:44.41influxGot to keep them rigid and pronged.
21:44.52influxWait, those are rakes.
21:45.07SunSparc:)
21:45.12TuxToasterlol
21:45.15fatal3rrlol
21:45.16TuxToasternice
21:45.27TuxToaster$weather outside
21:45.27raifbotTuxToaster - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for outside
21:45.31TuxToastermeh.
21:46.21fatal3rrhah
21:46.39fatal3rr$weather north pole
21:46.39raifbotfatal3rr - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for north pole
21:46.41fatal3rrhm
21:46.47TuxToasterthat one is in AK
21:47.16TuxToasterapparently it only works on bigger cities to not specify the state/country
21:47.20TuxToaster$weather North Pole, AK
21:47.21raifbotTuxToaster - current weather for North Pole, AK - Partly Cloudy 8f / -13c Humidity: 80% Wind: N at 0 mph
21:47.28TuxToasterbrr
21:47.37macnewbold$weather park city
21:47.37raifbotmacnewbold - current weather for park city - Sunny 22f / -6c Humidity: 56% Wind: N at 6 mph
21:47.40fatal3rryea, ouch, thats cold
21:47.52macnewbold$weather hell
21:47.53raifbotmacnewbold - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for hell
21:47.56SunSparcWow, it is only -13 in North Pole Alaska?  Not bad.
21:47.59macnewbold$weather hell mn
21:47.59raifbotmacnewbold - sorry, I couldn't get weather data for hell mn
21:48.07macnewbold$weather hell mi
21:48.07raifbotmacnewbold - current weather for hell mi - Partly Cloudy 18f / -8c Humidity: 50% Wind: W at 14 mph
21:49.21SunSparcIt is a balmy -1 in Orem.  Beach weather, compared to last night.
21:49.49TuxToasterlol
21:50.07TuxToastermacnewbold: at some point they need to start tracking that so that it can report when it freezes over
21:50.44SunSparcTuxToaster: Oh, I am pretty sure we will all know when that happens.
21:50.49TuxToasterlol
21:51.10TuxToaster$8ball will we know? seriously?
21:51.10raifbotTuxToaster - Yes - definitely.
21:51.45SunSparcIt will be about the same time that Microsoft admits that Bing was just a shell using using Google search results.
21:52.21TuxToasterhaha
21:52.30TuxToaster$8ball do you like Microsoft?
21:52.30raifbotTuxToaster - Better not tell you now.
21:52.39TuxToasterAHA. traitor.
21:53.25macnewboldbing? a shell around google? no way. their results are way too crappy.
21:53.42TuxToaster$8ball do you like Microsoft?
21:53.42raifbotTuxToaster - Most likely.
21:53.52TuxToasterheh.
21:54.06macnewboldi think it's hilarious that they have all these commercials about "search result overload" - one big propaganda campaign to convince people that a few lousy (and usually paid-for) search results are a feature, not a bug
21:54.09TuxToasterbing == a hodgepodge of other sites.
21:54.13SunSparcmacnewbold: Well of course, they have to put their own spin on it to make it look like they did it.
21:54.20TuxToasterthey take pieces of Kayak, pieces of Google, etc.
21:54.25TuxToasterand bing! they have a site
21:54.36SunSparclol
21:54.52macnewboldabout the only thing microsoft might do well is vacuums - they suck so much they could give dyson a run for their money
21:55.05SunSparc~rimshot
21:55.06ibotbadum-TISH!
21:55.13macnewbold~SunSparc++
21:55.15TuxToastermacnewbold: no, the day that Microsoft makes a product that DOESN'T suck, it will be a vacuum.
21:55.18SunSparclol
21:55.24macnewbold~TuxToaster++
21:55.29macnewbold~karma msie
21:55.29ibotmsie has neutral karma
21:55.36TuxToaster~karma ie
21:55.36ibotie has karma of -666
21:55.37macnewbold~karma MSIE
21:55.37ibotmsie has neutral karma
21:55.43SunSparc:D
21:55.49macnewboldyeah, ie is the one
21:55.55TuxToaster~karma bing
21:55.55ibotbing has karma of 1
21:55.59TuxToaster~bing--
21:56.01TuxToasterlol
21:56.12SunSparcCan't let that get into the positive
21:56.32SunSparc~bing
21:56.32ibotit has been said that bing is an Empirical stochastic bandwidth tester
21:56.48SunSparclol
21:56.52fatal3rr~bing--
21:57.03fatal3rr~karma bing
21:57.03ibotbing has karma of -1
21:57.04TuxToasterbing: v. An action that sounds too dirty to google.
21:57.08fatal3rrthere we go
21:57.39SunSparc~google bing
21:57.46TuxToasteruse $
21:57.59SunSparc$google bing
21:57.59raifbotSunSparc searching http://www.google.com/search?q=bing -- http://www.bing.com/ -- http://www.bing.com/maps/ -- http://www.bing.com/images
21:59.46fatal3rrIm actually quite shocked google hasnt put in an easter egg there
22:00.02SunSparcThat would be awesome
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22:00.53fatal3rrwell I mean, after their huge twitter battle I figured something would happen
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22:05.24TuxToaster$rlart
22:05.24raifbotwhacks ChanServ with the cluebat.
22:05.46TuxToasterat least it didn't backfire on me this time.
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22:25.43fatal3rrI love stumbling upon decent reading on wiki
22:36.41unumhave any of you used datagrid extensions with jquery?
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22:50.35mindjujuthe response from anonymous that they had been infiltrated by a reporter is funny
22:50.36mindjujuhttp://anonnews.org/?p=press&a=item&i=377
22:56.54fatal3rrhahaha
22:56.59fatal3rrthat is pretty awesome
23:18.06ninnypantswhat a way to go http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2011/02/07/rooster-kills-man-attending-cockfight/
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23:23.32TuxToaster$8ball is it almost time to go home?
23:23.32raifbotTuxToaster - You may rely on it.
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23:28.49mgearywait
23:29.04mgearya guy gets a rooster knife in his *calf* and two hours he's dead?!
23:29.11mgeary*two hours later
23:29.40TuxToasterwow
23:29.47TuxToasterhit an artery, maybe?
23:29.58mgearyi guess
23:30.00mgearyjeeze
23:39.20josephscott$8ball can you beat up a rooster?
23:39.21raifbotjosephscott - It is certain.
23:39.35herlooh, this is too good: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/restaurant_website
23:39.48herloI agree completely with it too
23:40.42supernoviahttp://neversaidaboutrestaurantwebsites.tumblr.com/
23:42.04herlosupernovia: nice
23:43.00herlothe best so far: “The website says it’s best viewed with Internet Explorer 4.0. It already looks fantastic, I can’t even imagine how great it would look in IE4!”
23:43.06herlo:P
23:43.07supernoviaHehe
23:43.28TuxToasteroi
23:43.44supernovia“Oooooh! I can’t wait to see what’s “Coming Soon!” for your Breakfast Menu, your Lunch Menu, your Dinner Menu, your About information, your Events schedule… the list just goes on and on! It’s a good thing you invested in a website to share such important news with your clientele.”
23:44.50TuxToasterherlo: someone else recently pointed out the same thing
23:44.58herloTuxToaster: oh, well that's cool
23:45.12TuxToasterI don't remember where, but they were ranting about restaurant sites not having basic info
23:45.29TuxToasterherlo: nah, not slowpoke, just interesting that it's come up quite a bit recently
23:46.18herloTuxToaster: facebook is the source of all of my news nowadays
23:46.27herloif it's on there, it is news to me
23:46.29supernoviaah, inspired by xkcd: http://xkcd.com/773/ — this one's good
23:46.40herlogood thing I block all of the stoopid games and political crap I don't care about
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23:48.51herloso the guys next to me at the coffee shop are talking about some MLM...
23:49.22supernoviaooh
23:49.26supernoviacan I still get in on the ground floor?
23:49.36herloprobably
23:49.41supernovia:-p
23:49.46herlowant me to ask?
23:49.51TuxToasterwow, someone just sent me this: http://www.beatsbydre.com/products/Products.aspx?pid=B5097&cat=2
23:49.51supernoviaheh, no'
23:49.51herlo:P
23:49.59TuxToaster$200 for headphones? seriously?
23:50.07herloahh, c'mon!  It'll be the bestest ever
23:50.26herloTuxToaster: I spent $300 for my boze QC2s and those beatsbydre are supposed to be good
23:50.42supernoviaran out of my fave. skincare products. but I _hhhaaaaatteeee_ selling the stuff
23:50.51supernovia(or just about anything for that matter)
23:50.55TuxToaster$8ball is $200+ too much for headphones?
23:50.55raifbotTuxToaster - Yes - definitely.
23:50.59TuxToasteragreed.
23:51.12SunSparcTuxToaster: Depends on the headphones.
23:51.13supernovia$8ball am I ever going to be …. normal?
23:51.13raifbotsupernovia - Outlook good.
23:51.36SunSparcsupernovia: Why would you, or anyone, want to be "normal"?
23:51.36herloTuxToaster: http://www.skullcandy.com/shop/mix-master-black.html
23:51.42TuxToasterSunSparc: I guess, but they'd have to be *really* good
23:52.13herloTuxToaster: the Bose QC2's are well worth it if you travel and don't want to listen to airplane noise.  
23:52.24TuxToasterherlo: yup, I've seen those
23:52.26herloNoise cancellation is sooo awesome and the sound quality rox
23:52.41TuxToasterand actually.. I guess I'd better rephrase
23:52.43herlothe MMM from SKDY I have not tried...
23:52.47TuxToaster$200 for earbuds seems killer
23:52.51herlobut I hear they are awesome...
23:53.05SunSparcTuxToaster: http://www.amazon.com/AKG-K702-REFERENCE-OPEN-HEADPHONES/dp/B001RCD2DW/
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23:53.09TuxToastera set like the MMM or Bose, maybe.
23:53.21ninnypants2TuxToaster: are they the ones you get sized to fit your ears perfectly?
23:53.34TuxToasterdunno, never have done that.
23:54.11TuxToasterI'd definitely want to be able to try out any headphone that I was going to spend that kind of money on though
23:54.25herloTuxToaster: those beats by dre let you control your music and talk on the phone, the QC2 can't do that.
23:54.32herlo:P
23:54.50TuxToasternice
23:54.52herloTuxToaster: go to teh Bose factory up in PC, try any headphones.  I love that feature...
23:55.02herloand the SKDY office in PC has a little store too
23:55.08herlocan totally try them out
23:55.09TuxToasteryup, been there
23:55.36TuxToasterstill think $200 is crazy for earbuds though :P
23:55.44herloI agree on that point
23:55.54TuxToasterunless you can hear the sounds of heaven when you put them in or something.
23:55.55herlobut I'm not an earbud man.  I like over-the-ear headphones
23:56.09supernoviathey were rather nice, too
23:56.18TuxToasterso far I just use the ones that came with my iPhone
23:56.26supernoviathe ones that came with my droid suck
23:56.39supernoviasounds like the music is being played through a pillow
23:56.41TuxToasterbeen looking for nicer ones, but just haven't found any I like yet
23:58.01supernovia*sigh*
23:58.21TuxToasterbe back later
23:58.48supernoviaI'm supposed to take this medicine every 6 hours, but it makes me loopy, right? so I try not to take it til night. but now when the day is going sucky I'm tempted to just take it so I can check out :-p  That can't be good.

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