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| 09:46.04 | mindjuju | the basics haven't changed |
| 09:46.27 | mindjuju | you'll have some major features added between major versions |
| 09:46.54 | mindjuju | so for example between MySQL 4 --> MySQL 5 they added support for stored procedures |
| 09:47.16 | mindjuju | but the syntax for select, insert, update, delete, joins hasn't changed |
| 09:48.47 | influx | Ko. The more advanced stuff probably isn't necessary until whatever I'm working on gets complicated then. |
| 09:49.07 | justincarmony | mindjuju: go to bed! :P |
| 09:49.08 | justincarmony | ;) |
| 09:50.02 | mindjuju | justincarmony, what you doing up? |
| 09:50.27 | justincarmony | I couldn't sleep |
| 09:50.38 | mindjuju | ah |
| 09:50.40 | justincarmony | talking with the guy who basically taught me PHP atm :) |
| 09:50.54 | mindjuju | way cool! |
| 09:51.18 | justincarmony | We're now equals in skill, with our own specialties :P |
| 09:52.38 | influx | Snatched the pebble from his hand? |
| 09:53.10 | justincarmony | hehe, yeah :P |
| 09:55.04 | influx | Making it a functional resume instead of reverse-chronological. |
| 09:58.29 | mindjuju | what ever way you make it, make sure it is flexible enough to customize |
| 09:58.33 | mindjuju | that's the trick |
| 09:58.53 | mindjuju | so if job A says they want somebody with exp in SQL, and you have it, make sure that is visible |
| 09:59.11 | mindjuju | or if they say they want skill A, skill b, make sure easy to find |
| 09:59.24 | mindjuju | a great cover letter will help |
| 09:59.34 | influx | Any tips on the cover letter? |
| 10:00.06 | influx | I have no idea what to put on there other than a paragraph of "I would be so good for ur company and I would wrk my butt off. Pls hire me. Kthx." |
| 10:00.37 | mindjuju | I would recommend going through the job listing, writting out the requirements and give a brief statement on how you have those skills |
| 10:00.59 | influx | Aye aye. |
| 10:01.00 | mindjuju | so when they say we need a web dev with familiarity in LAMP environ |
| 10:01.03 | mindjuju | you can be all |
| 10:01.34 | mindjuju | In several of my past employments, I've worked in LAMP enviroments working to optimize the applications, blah blah blah |
| 10:06.27 | influx | Enlightening. :D |
| 10:06.49 | influx | I guess I shouldn't have a fear of a little redundancy then. |
| 10:07.37 | mindjuju | between cover letter and resume, no, no worry about redundancy |
| 10:07.51 | mindjuju | well, let me clarify |
| 10:08.01 | mindjuju | you shouldn't be just I work in LAMP environs |
| 10:08.11 | mindjuju | you should say what you did in LAMP environ |
| 10:08.43 | mindjuju | so think of it as confirm that you were have the skill or experience and extended it a little |
| 10:08.53 | mindjuju | what did you do in the lAMP environ |
| 10:09.02 | mindjuju | hope that makes sense |
| 10:09.13 | mindjuju | :) |
| 10:09.29 | influx | It's for expanding on what the resume lists. |
| 10:09.33 | influx | In part. |
| 10:09.39 | mindjuju | exactly |
| 10:09.43 | influx | Cool. |
| 12:34.12 | influx | Is anyone in here rolling through SLC on their way to Draper for UPHPU on Thursday? |
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| 15:33.10 | utahcon | good morning PHPers |
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| 15:41.08 | Zelut | morning |
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| 16:07.04 | wps | mindjuju: I posted your new years and jan meeting announcements to the site |
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| 16:29.07 | supernovia | 'morning |
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| 17:06.23 | ibot | pong mindjuju |
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| 17:33.06 | supernovia | hey swb, how was your trip? |
| 17:33.19 | swb | so very good! |
| 17:33.33 | supernovia | I am so very glad. And jealous, but that's OK |
| 17:33.47 | utahcon | swb: where'd you go? |
| 17:33.58 | swb | Tybee Island, GA |
| 17:34.49 | utahcon | cool |
| 17:35.19 | utahcon | did you go to Capt Mike's Dolphin tour? |
| 17:36.23 | swb | no, it was mostly a work trip, but I did go to The Crab Shack a couple times :) |
| 17:39.16 | mgeary | does anyone have any good metrics/tests to determine, generally speaking, how close a given server is to capacity on the usual resources (ram, cpu, network bandwidth)? I'm trying to decide the best way to determine which of our servers to put a new site onto |
| 17:41.35 | supernovia | mmm, trying to remember the name if this script.. cPanel with whm uses it |
| 17:41.44 | supernovia | (and the host I was with for so long used whm on most servers...) |
| 17:42.32 | herlo | supernovia: hey |
| 17:43.08 | supernovia | hey herlo |
| 17:43.16 | brasto | wps fixed the events food.... food? Where's the food! |
| 17:43.56 | wps | still working on that |
| 17:44.01 | brasto | couldn't resist wps :) |
| 17:44.09 | wps | I deserved it |
| 17:44.32 | brasto | ah, good save in the next message though |
| 18:00.35 | justincarmony | man |
| 18:00.39 | justincarmony | I'm craving tacos |
| 18:00.44 | justincarmony | I can't help myself |
| 18:00.57 | supernovia | Del Taco can help you |
| 18:01.02 | SunSparc | stderr: You prefer Nikon over Canon? |
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| 18:01.17 | justincarmony | no, I mean *real* tacos! :P |
| 18:01.20 | SunSparc | ~Del Taco++ |
| 18:01.23 | stderr | SunSparc: yea |
| 18:01.24 | mgeary | Taco Bell > Del Taco > Taco Time |
| 18:01.27 | merrick | hey guys... I've got a question. |
| 18:01.44 | supernovia | best place for tacos ever = ? |
| 18:01.47 | merrick | http://pastie.org/783489 |
| 18:01.50 | merrick | why wouldn't that work |
| 18:02.00 | merrick | I realize that traditionaly you would assign a variable |
| 18:02.02 | merrick | to my_array() |
| 18:02.03 | merrick | but |
| 18:02.10 | merrick | I don't want to if I don't have to |
| 18:02.13 | SunSparc | stderr: I have always used Canon's and heard good things about them. But I have also always heard good things about Nikon. Have you done much in the way of comparing the two brands? |
| 18:02.23 | mgeary | merrick: what version of php? |
| 18:02.34 | merrick | 5 plus |
| 18:02.35 | merrick | I know that |
| 18:02.35 | stderr | SunSparc: A little bit. It basically comes down to what your lens investment is already. |
| 18:02.45 | mgeary | merrick: i believe in php 5.2.+ that should work, but it may not in 5.1 |
| 18:02.52 | SunSparc | mgeary: Taco Bell your favorite out of those three? |
| 18:02.54 | merrick | really... ok thats good to know |
| 18:02.59 | josephscott | merrick: I think only the very latest versions of PHP support that type of chaining |
| 18:03.03 | merrick | thanks megeary. just trying to save on a line of code |
| 18:03.10 | merrick | thanks josephscott |
| 18:03.11 | wps | they also feel very different in your hands, SunSparc |
| 18:03.15 | merrick | and mgeary |
| 18:03.20 | SunSparc | stderr: Yeah, I would imagine that a person could not really go wrong with either brand. |
| 18:03.31 | SunSparc | wps: How so? |
| 18:03.39 | wps | there are people that swear each wayâ¦Â likes fords and chevys |
| 18:03.46 | wps | I picked up a Nikon and hated it |
| 18:03.49 | wps | felt cheapâ¦Â like a toy |
| 18:03.53 | mgeary | SunSparc: it is |
| 18:03.56 | stderr | which Nikon? |
| 18:04.02 | wps | but there are nikon people that would say the same thing about a canon I'm sure |
| 18:04.14 | josephscott | after reading about the auto worker jobs back I'm rather disgusted with the american auto industry |
| 18:04.21 | wps | unfortunately, I don't recall the model, stderr. sorry |
| 18:04.33 | stderr | well that's pretty important :P both Canon and Nikon use plastic in their cheaper bodies |
| 18:04.47 | wps | this was a pro DSLR |
| 18:04.47 | SunSparc | mgeary: Yeah, their shells are pretty good. Although, I enjoy the veggie burrito from Del Taco better. |
| 18:04.49 | wps | metal body |
| 18:04.51 | supernovia | I have an ancient nikon5700 (not even a DSLR) |
| 18:04.59 | wps | my biggest complaint was the shutter button |
| 18:05.07 | supernovia | heavy cameras = good ... less shake |
| 18:05.07 | wps | how it depressedâ¦Â the resistanceâ¦Â when it engaged |
| 18:05.11 | wps | hated it |
| 18:05.34 | justincarmony | josephscott: what news is this about the auto industry? |
| 18:05.39 | supernovia | especially if they're heavier at the bottom. |
| 18:05.40 | stderr | which Canon do you have? |
| 18:05.44 | wps | 20D |
| 18:05.45 | SunSparc | Every brand has their crappy product lines. |
| 18:06.28 | stderr | just go to Best Buy or somewhere and see how each feels in your hands |
| 18:06.31 | supernovia | yeah josephscott. let's hear it. |
| 18:06.34 | josephscott | justincarmony: jobs bank has now been suspended, but it's insane that this went on at all http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/28/news/companies/gm_uaw_jobsbank/index.htm |
| 18:06.52 | wps | yeahâ¦Â and really, you'd need to commit to one for a month and run it through some real tests |
| 18:07.15 | josephscott | it basically paid people not to work, with up to 95% of their salary |
| 18:07.32 | stderr | I've owned the D40 (Nikons entry-level DSLR), and it's a pretty dang good camera |
| 18:07.32 | supernovia | bah! |
| 18:07.51 | josephscott | http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/39803 |
| 18:07.54 | stderr | but I had to upgrade to the D90 |
| 18:08.03 | supernovia | and we wonder why Toyota runs circles around em |
| 18:08.10 | josephscott | this is no longer, true, but at the time: |
| 18:08.13 | josephscott | âRight now if a plant closes in St. Louis and a new one opens in Kansas City, the workers donât have to move from St. Louis to Kansas City; they can opt to get a $105,000 payout or go on Jobs Bank where they can collect 95 percent of pay for the rest of their lives,â Morici said |
| 18:08.28 | stderr | SunSparc: http://www.makethephoto.com/how-to-choose-a-digital-camera/ |
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| 18:09.35 | wps | unions are such a load of crap |
| 18:09.45 | josephscott | These contracts say that GM agreed to allocate $2.1 billion in Jobs Bank payments over four years |
| 18:09.46 | SunSparc | stderr: nice flow chart |
| 18:10.18 | josephscott | $525 million/year so that they could pay people who weren't working |
| 18:10.32 | mgeary | wps: but unions served an important role in the development of workers' rights |
| 18:11.39 | supernovia | on top of this making us extraordinarily non competitive price and technology wise, living on the dole has a neat little way of messing people up |
| 18:12.23 | justincarmony | I think unions today are a lot different from what they were in 1920s |
| 18:12.43 | wps | crud |
| 18:12.53 | wps | my 1.5 year old pulled a ribbon out of an antique typewriter |
| 18:12.54 | wps | twice |
| 18:13.14 | wps | covered in ink |
| 18:13.14 | supernovia | d'oh. time for a taller shelf eh |
| 18:13.51 | justincarmony | so mgeary is right, they served a great role in developing worker's right. But I have yet to meet a union worker lately that is happy with their union :P |
| 18:13.54 | SunSparc | wps: That is a fun age. |
| 18:14.05 | supernovia | unions are good when they help people.. not so good when they're more or less legal organized crime |
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| 18:14.44 | SunSparc | I do not usually hear anything good about unions. |
| 18:14.57 | supernovia | and paying someone to sit around and do nothing = great way to keep them quiet :-p |
| 18:15.07 | wps | yes, mgeary, some truth to that |
| 18:15.14 | wps | but it's been a long time since they were a positive force |
| 18:16.16 | supernovia | they have a way of zapping self reliance |
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| 18:16.54 | merrick | so I'm runnnig 5.2.9 |
| 18:17.01 | merrick | and its not yet implements |
| 18:17.04 | merrick | implemented |
| 18:17.28 | mgeary | merrick: that does seem weird. maybe it's php5.3+, but i didn't think so |
| 18:17.47 | merrick | mgeary, Alright well, thanks I appreciate the help |
| 18:18.28 | mgeary | merrick: but it makes for cleaner code if you use a variable anyhow |
| 18:18.38 | merrick | arguable :) |
| 18:18.38 | merrick | hehe |
| 18:19.36 | mgeary | not really |
| 18:19.56 | stderr | It certainly is arguable, but not in PHP where there's such a fundamental difference between variables and functions. |
| 18:20.56 | stderr | SunSparc: so you thinking of purchasing a new body? |
| 18:21.07 | merrick | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.39 | mgeary | merrick: but it creates logical debug points. trying to debug a line that has 10 things going on in it is a nightmare |
| 18:21.44 | Lone_Wanderer | I wish I could buy a new body, and then move my consciousness into it. |
| 18:21.59 | merrick | referencing a value from a returned array is hardly 10 things |
| 18:22.07 | mgeary | merrick: true :) |
| 18:22.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Not right now, but in 60 years or so. |
| 18:22.14 | merrick | hehe :) |
| 18:22.24 | mgeary | i'm just espousing my philosophy, i suppose |
| 18:22.51 | SunSparc | stderr: I have been thinking about it for a long time. I love photography. Used to develop my own BW photos in high school for photo class. Used my parents Canon SLR (not sure which model it was). But since then I have stuck with cheap point and shoot models. Always been hoping to justify the cost of a real camera. |
| 18:22.51 | stderr | SunSparc: there's a Photowalking event in February, a night for a miniclinic on studio shooting, and a studio lighting photowalk two days later |
| 18:23.02 | stderr | if you wanted to you could come and try my D90 on for size |
| 18:23.19 | stderr | I _may_ be coming to the UPHPU meeting on Thursday too, could bring it with |
| 18:23.21 | Lone_Wanderer | D90 isn't full frame is it? |
| 18:23.29 | stderr | nope it's DX |
| 18:23.48 | SunSparc | stderr: I have seen you mention that. What exactly is a photo walk? |
| 18:23.57 | Lone_Wanderer | and how do you find out about them? |
| 18:24.23 | stderr | I'm a member of the Photowalking Utah group and visit their site every so often ( I think it's currently down ) |
| 18:24.25 | Lone_Wanderer | SunSparc: I have a D80 and it's fantastic. |
| 18:24.26 | stderr | http://www.flickr.com/groups/photowalkslc/discuss/72157623080755433/ |
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| 18:27.10 | stderr | Lone_Wanderer: The D90 is essentially Nikon's replacement for the D80 |
| 18:27.15 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah I figured. |
| 18:27.36 | stderr | but they took a LOT of features from the D300 so it's a pretty far step up |
| 18:27.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Essentially the same model, but with more awesome. |
| 18:27.43 | Lone_Wanderer | oh cool |
| 18:27.45 | stderr | Just wish I had the 51 AF points :`( |
| 18:27.55 | Lone_Wanderer | 51 autofocus points?? |
| 18:28.02 | Lone_Wanderer | that's a bit excessive isn't it? |
| 18:28.06 | stderr | Yea, the D300 and D700 have 51 AF points |
| 18:28.11 | stderr | pft |
| 18:28.18 | Lone_Wanderer | dang |
| 18:28.21 | stderr | never can be excessive with AF points |
| 18:28.32 | Lone_Wanderer | do they overlap? |
| 18:28.41 | Lone_Wanderer | maybe I'm thinking of something different |
| 18:29.17 | stderr | nah they don't overlap |
| 18:29.56 | Lone_Wanderer | ohhh, photo-related swag just for showing up |
| 18:29.58 | stderr | http://shashinki.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/nikon_d300_af_pointsb.jpg |
| 18:30.40 | Lone_Wanderer | Yep, that's what I was thinking of. |
| 18:33.10 | stderr | I'm not using any auto exposure lock / recompose picture tricks anymore, just going off the sunny 16 rule |
| 18:33.19 | Lone_Wanderer | What's that? |
| 18:34.26 | stderr | great way to figure out exposure in your head |
| 18:34.28 | stderr | http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=30235 |
| 18:35.14 | stderr | http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/understanding-series/understandexposure.shtml |
| 18:35.40 | Lone_Wanderer | ah, cool |
| 18:36.22 | tierra | just ran across this pretty ingenious site: http://www.abtests.com/ |
| 18:38.46 | wps | tierra, the google website optimizer does that with more features |
| 18:39.28 | tierra | google provides an API for doing A/B testing... but this site is an archive of results from various A/B tests |
| 18:39.45 | wps | ahâ¦Â I see |
| 18:42.37 | justincarmony | aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrgg |
| 18:42.39 | justincarmony | I hate novell atm |
| 18:42.58 | wps | I've hated them for the past decade |
| 18:43.08 | wps | well, hate's a little strong |
| 18:43.14 | wps | no sense in harboring hate |
| 18:43.57 | Lone_Wanderer | but you really, really, really, really, really, really don't like them? |
| 18:44.11 | justincarmony | actually, this particular issue isn't novell's direct fault. Its more the people who setup this office's networking did it haphazardly |
| 18:44.18 | wps | noâ¦Â just don't have any respect for them |
| 18:44.27 | wps | and am surprised that they are still in business |
| 18:44.32 | justincarmony | so now when new software updates come, it won't run on their system |
| 18:51.54 | fungus | How does a bad network setup prevent updates from installing? |
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| 19:30.22 | justincarmony | fungus: the have Novell setup all weird, so the new version of their software that uses services now instead of just a standard windows app can't authenticate against their eDirectory |
| 19:31.07 | fungus | eww, all that crazy windows stuff. GL |
| 19:31.19 | justincarmony | yeah |
| 19:31.27 | justincarmony | mixing Novell & Windows |
| 19:31.28 | justincarmony | sucks |
| 19:31.36 | fungus | didn't used to be bad. |
| 19:31.46 | fungus | about 10 years ago, it worked pretty good |
| 19:31.51 | justincarmony | All because their Novell server is basically a glorified network share |
| 19:31.54 | justincarmony | thats it |
| 19:39.46 | SunSparc | One thing I really really want in a camera is a shutter that releases as soon as I press the shutter release button. So many point and click cameras just do not understand the idea of candid shots of children who move at light speed. |
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| 19:41.26 | SunSparc | A camera with a good power supply that allows me to take quick shots and minimal intervals. |
| 19:42.10 | SunSparc | Of course, my budget is $500-$1000 for a whole package, not just the body. At the moment anyway. |
| 19:42.44 | supernovia | SunSparc, in my humble experience, cannon's got a very quick shutter |
| 19:42.48 | SunSparc | The Rebel or D90 are probably what would fit my needs. I still consider myself a photography novice. |
| 19:43.27 | SunSparc | supernovia: have you tried Nikon's? |
| 19:43.30 | supernovia | well, not shutter speed so much but speed of shutter response |
| 19:43.49 | supernovia | I haven't owned either but I've used both |
| 19:44.12 | SunSparc | What are your thoughts on both? |
| 19:44.48 | supernovia | actually: both of them I've used have been older models |
| 19:44.53 | SunSparc | I probably just need to put my hands on both. My brother in law has a Rebel that I played with briefly. |
| 19:45.02 | supernovia | Yeah, that's the best way to do it |
| 19:45.28 | supernovia | There's a camera store in AF that will let you try them out |
| 19:46.10 | SunSparc | Allen's? |
| 19:46.46 | supernovia | er, canon. sheesh. but yeah I think Allen's can help you out |
| 19:47.36 | SunSparc | There is a Canon store in AF? |
| 19:48.12 | supernovia | it has been a long time since I shopped there |
| 19:51.30 | supernovia | http://tinyurl.com/yfbhf3g - they do carry them online at least |
| 19:51.52 | SunSparc | Yeah, I was looking at their site. I have been to their store. |
| 19:52.34 | influx | Canon EOS line of DSLRs |
| 19:52.36 | influx | ^^^^^^^ |
| 19:52.52 | influx | Used end up being pretty good. I had a 10D that worked swimmingly. |
| 19:53.15 | SunSparc | But stderr has me interested in Nikon as well. |
| 19:53.21 | influx | stderr doesn't know anything |
| 19:53.35 | influx | ;] |
| 19:53.44 | influx | Nikon's always good to check out. |
| 19:55.00 | SunSparc | heh |
| 20:06.33 | stderr | "speed of shutter response" depends upon a lot of things |
| 20:06.47 | stderr | #1 being the lens you're using, not the body (due to AF) |
| 20:07.57 | SunSparc | Yeah, I always assumed that power supply was the greatest factor, especially with so many features all requiring power before a shot is taken and then the recovery phase. |
| 20:08.39 | stderr | not really. the lens is number 1, but number two would be the body's AF mechanism itself, and #3 would be the sensor and how much buffer the sensor has |
| 20:09.14 | stderr | the body's AF mechanism + the the body's metering system |
| 20:09.36 | SunSparc | Makes sense. |
| 20:09.39 | stderr | (depends on if you've set the body to get focus and/or meter right before it allows the shot to be taken, it's the default on most Nikon and Canon bodies) |
| 20:10.58 | SunSparc | Right, the final focus. I can see how that would cause extra time. |
| 20:11.11 | *** join/#uphpu redroy (n=Adium@66.60.105.178) |
| 20:11.27 | stderr | yea, which you can certainly disable |
| 20:12.30 | stderr | then if you have a wireless flash system setup, that can lag the shutter response as well. |
| 20:13.02 | SunSparc | Waiting for communication confirmation? |
| 20:13.11 | stderr | so it isn't really a Nikon vs Canon thing. It's more of a specific body vs body thing and a specific lens vs lens thing |
| 20:13.17 | stderr | yea, waiting for communication |
| 20:13.36 | justincarmony | this just made my day: http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/post/338073088/client-the-logo-looks-great-but-can-we-change |
| 20:13.57 | influx | Can you make it pop? |
| 20:14.11 | influx | Sure I can. Let me get my 9mm. |
| 20:14.29 | SunSparc | justincarmony: lol |
| 20:15.04 | influx | that's just dumb |
| 20:16.46 | utahcon | Scary cool: http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/01/18/1742230/Nano-Scale-Robot-Arm-Moves-Atoms-With-100-Accuracy?from=rss&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29&utm_content=Google+Reader |
| 20:16.54 | utahcon | the link is a bit big... |
| 20:16.58 | influx | ugh |
| 20:17.52 | utahcon | smaller link http://tinyurl.com/ycwtgf5 |
| 20:19.30 | Lone_Lunch | What exactly is an A B test? |
| 20:19.58 | wps | Lone_Lunch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multivariate_testing |
| 20:20.20 | justincarmony | http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/post/333065879/i-have-printed-it-out-but-the-animated-gif-is-not |
| 20:20.42 | SunSparc | utahcon: that is pretty cool stuff |
| 20:20.54 | wps | justincarmony: hallelujah! |
| 20:22.23 | influx | Is there anyone willing to give me a ride to/from the meeting on Thursday? |
| 20:22.31 | influx | I will provide money for gas. |
| 20:22.45 | influx | I have... however much is in my change jar. |
| 20:23.08 | wps | alas, he is triple-booked |
| 20:24.27 | supernovia | I saw you post earlier about coming in from SLC - I'm pretty sure most of the group comes from that direction |
| 20:24.50 | supernovia | well, at least a lot of the people who are always there |
| 20:25.37 | Lone_Lunch | Where do you live influx? |
| 20:27.19 | influx | I live in the Avenues, by LDS hospital. |
| 20:27.27 | influx | Quarter-block away actually. |
| 20:27.28 | Lone_Lunch | ah. I'm in Orem. |
| 20:28.00 | influx | No idea where Orem is; it's sad, really. |
| 20:28.01 | supernovia | might you meet up with someone and have them bring you in the rest of the way? |
| 20:28.22 | influx | supernovia: Possibly, yeah. I could take Trax down to Sandy and meet someone there. |
| 20:28.22 | Lone_Lunch | Do you know where Provo is? |
| 20:28.23 | mgeary | influx: you live in SLC and y ou don't know where Orem is? |
| 20:28.32 | influx | Lone_Lunch: Next to mount olympus? |
| 20:28.34 | Lone_Lunch | He might be really, really new to Utah. |
| 20:28.37 | supernovia | I'm coming from the wrong direction, btw, but I'm sure someone there could help you out |
| 20:28.48 | influx | mgeary: I'm not kidding. I hardly venture anywhere. |
| 20:28.49 | Lone_Lunch | Not as far as I know. |
| 20:29.05 | influx | Lone_Lunch: I've lived here about fifteen years now. |
| 20:29.07 | supernovia | and tells influx to hop on trax sometime. |
| 20:29.10 | fungus | influx I will be heading down from West Valley |
| 20:29.13 | Lone_Lunch | Well, then you have no excuse ;) |
| 20:29.15 | influx | Heh. |
| 20:29.19 | supernovia | see ya :) |
| 20:29.35 | Lone_Lunch | Orem and Provo are basically the same city. BYU is in Provo, if that helps. It's 45 minutes to an hour south of downtown SLC, depending on traffic. |
| 20:29.39 | influx | fungus: Yeah? What can we work out? |
| 20:29.39 | SunSparc | Orem is an awesome city to live in. |
| 20:29.44 | Lone_Lunch | It is? |
| 20:29.52 | Lone_Lunch | Are we thinking of the same Orem? |
| 20:29.56 | SunSparc | :) |
| 20:30.02 | influx | Maybe he's thinking of Or'm? |
| 20:30.05 | SunSparc | I like it. |
| 20:30.07 | SunSparc | lol |
| 20:30.30 | wps | I think Orem was great in the eighties and nineties but I wouldn't live there now |
| 20:30.32 | fungus | thinking... |
| 20:30.47 | utahcon | influx: you may wish to email to list to get a carpool/ride setup |
| 20:31.05 | Lone_Lunch | My sister and me, on my choice in shirts: "I'm missing how looking like a lumberjack makes cool..." "Wolverine was a lumberjack." |
| 20:31.11 | Lone_Lunch | makes you cool* |
| 20:31.16 | fungus | influx, can you get to the trax station at 21st? I could swing by there pretty easy |
| 20:31.29 | influx | For sure. |
| 20:31.53 | influx | Just tell me when. |
| 20:32.31 | Lone_Lunch | I don't mind it, but I'd rather live in the Avenues. |
| 20:32.34 | fungus | You check the schedule and tell me when you will be there. That way I can try to make sure you don't have to wait too long in the cold. |
| 20:32.37 | Lone_Lunch | Or, better yet, Seattle or St. Paul. |
| 20:32.47 | wps | I'd rather live in heber |
| 20:32.56 | Lone_Lunch | Isn't Heber kind of |
| 20:33.04 | Lone_Lunch | a small town? |
| 20:33.08 | wps | indeed! |
| 20:33.10 | fungus | I'm with Lone_Lunch, small towns suck |
| 20:33.11 | macnewbold | yeah, heber is awesome |
| 20:33.14 | macnewbold | not too small though |
| 20:33.19 | macnewbold | they have an airport... |
| 20:33.24 | Lone_Lunch | It's the one that's on the way to Park City if you go from Orem via the canyon, right? |
| 20:33.31 | wps | yeah |
| 20:33.33 | macnewbold | so you can get a small plane and fly to SLC or provo when you need to |
| 20:33.33 | Lone_Lunch | An airport without a tower. |
| 20:33.34 | SunSparc | I have thought of Heber, because I would like a bigger lot. |
| 20:33.38 | Lone_Lunch | I don't think it has a tower anyway. |
| 20:33.43 | fungus | If they don't have an international Airport, it's a small town |
| 20:33.53 | macnewbold | doesn't need a tower... they're already at 7,000 ft or something... |
| 20:33.58 | Lone_Lunch | I'd live in Heber. |
| 20:34.13 | Lone_Lunch | mac - I can't tell if you're joking or not |
| 20:34.14 | wps | macnewbold: how does elevation affect the need for a tower? |
| 20:34.35 | wps | :) |
| 20:34.51 | influx | Will this meeting be recorded on audio? |
| 20:35.05 | influx | err, will there be an audio recording of the meeting, I mean. |
| 20:35.30 | wps | no live recording, but mindjuju is going to recreate the entire event later with legos and stop-motion photography |
| 20:35.41 | SunSparc | LOL |
| 20:35.43 | influx | hahaha |
| 20:35.45 | macnewbold | wps: presumably the tower is to get you higher... heber's already high |
| 20:35.57 | influx | I'll take a notebook. |
| 20:36.06 | fungus | influx, recorded yes, live stream, no |
| 20:36.39 | macnewbold | influx: i'm going to the meeting and could get you there if you want. you could meet me at Code Greene (work) right near 400 S State St. I could get you back to sandy trax afterward. |
| 20:36.42 | wps | "merchandise" is hard to type fast |
| 20:37.01 | Lone_Lunch | macnewbold: the tower is so that you can see what's going on everywhere in the airport, and in the air around the airport, and so an aircraft that's having trouble can do flybys and you can visually inspect it to see (for example) if their landing gear has descended or not |
| 20:37.17 | Lone_Lunch | and, in general, to control what's going on |
| 20:37.25 | influx | fungus: 6:37PM work for you? |
| 20:37.28 | Lone_Lunch | it's where the air traffic controllers work |
| 20:37.55 | Lone_Lunch | and an airport that's small enough to not need a tower is really, really tiny, and can be dangerous to fly into and out of |
| 20:37.59 | fungus | Is there one earlier. we might be late for that. traffic gets ugly around that time. |
| 20:38.14 | Lone_Lunch | (Not that I've been studying aviation or anything.) |
| 20:38.51 | wps | the twitter engine should have a filter that automatically refuses posts about children and pets |
| 20:39.08 | Lone_Lunch | Or at least lets you choose what to filter. |
| 20:40.34 | influx | fungus: There's 6:22 and 6:07 |
| 20:40.57 | influx | wps: You should start a Facebook group. |
| 20:41.19 | Lone_Lunch | "If we get 10,000 members Twitter will do what we want!" |
| 20:41.25 | influx | Heh. |
| 20:41.26 | Lone_Lunch | Do it. I'd join. |
| 20:41.50 | wps | heyâ¦Â anything's possible |
| 20:41.52 | wps | I'm on twitter now |
| 20:41.57 | Lone_Lunch | I would join specifically to mock anyone delusional enough to think that Twitter programmers are going to bow to our whim just because we shout really loudly on an unrelated social networking site. |
| 20:42.01 | Lone_Lunch | But I would nevertheless join. |
| 20:42.10 | fungus | influx, 6:22 that sounds great. |
| 20:42.16 | influx | Deal. |
| 20:42.36 | Lone_Lunch | (Actually having the ability to filter the content of people you follow based on key words is a really reasonable feature to ask for.) |
| 20:42.59 | wps | not sure how you would filter some things though |
| 20:43.09 | wps | for exampleâ¦Â a friend just posted about his kid having croup |
| 20:43.14 | wps | while that's sadâ¦Â who cares? |
| 20:43.25 | Lone_Lunch | Wade |
| 20:43.39 | Lone_Lunch | ...are you familiar with the basic premise behind Twitter? |
| 20:44.01 | Lone_Lunch | Don't get me wrong. I agree with you. |
| 20:44.14 | Lone_Lunch | I'm just not sure we're on the same page regarding Why Twitter Exists. |
| 20:44.29 | utahcon | Lone_Lunch: So my friends can talk and I don't have to listen |
| 20:44.37 | Lone_Lunch | EXACTLY |
| 20:44.37 | wps | :) |
| 20:44.49 | utahcon | please note that is why IRC became popular :D |
| 20:45.10 | wps | IRC is a good place to mention your kid having croup |
| 20:45.17 | utahcon | ick |
| 20:45.18 | Lone_Lunch | What is croup? |
| 20:45.28 | josephscott | IRC is popular? |
| 20:45.35 | utahcon | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=croup |
| 20:45.36 | Lone_Lunch | A lot of people use it. |
| 20:45.38 | utahcon | josephscott: it was |
| 20:45.42 | Lone_Lunch | The military uses it. |
| 20:45.58 | utahcon | Lone_Lunch: that is a -- in some books |
| 20:46.10 | josephscott | indeed it was, about a decade ago :-) |
| 20:46.14 | Lone_Lunch | When my S2 said something about putting intel on mIRC, I had to excuse myself because I was laughing too much. |
| 20:46.28 | utahcon | josephscott: furthermore... we are still here, must be where teh cool kids hang out |
| 20:46.39 | Lone_Lunch | utahcon: I prefer http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+croup ;) |
| 20:46.42 | utahcon | S2? |
| 20:46.48 | Lone_Lunch | military intelligence |
| 20:46.55 | utahcon | ah |
| 20:46.57 | Lone_Lunch | they deal with intel |
| 20:46.59 | wps | Lone_Lunch: I have found some great people to follow that post great stuff (opposed to just logging their actions) |
| 20:47.06 | influx | /ignore |
| 20:47.44 | Lone_Lunch | I found out later that their IRC network is on... siprnet, I think it's called, which is secure and encrypted and doesn't go over any public cables or anythingg |
| 20:48.13 | Lone_Lunch | but still, I'm really amused that they're using IRC to communicate and organize realtime operations |
| 20:50.11 | utahcon | Lone_Lunch: if the lag is low, why not |
| 20:50.20 | utahcon | it is a pretty mature protocol |
| 20:50.34 | utahcon | on a private network I can only imagine it is damn good |
| 20:50.56 | Lone_Lunch | no, it does make sense |
| 20:50.57 | macnewbold | yeah, no netsplits :-D |
| 20:51.09 | Lone_Lunch | it's just one more thing about the military that's kind of a let down |
| 20:51.21 | influx | Howcome? |
| 20:51.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Like, the first time I ever learned anything classified |
| 20:52.07 | Lone_Wanderer | I was all excited. They brought us into a big room and locked the door and an officer was all "What you're about to learn is classified, don't tell anyone or you'll go to jail forever, bla bla" |
| 20:52.14 | Lone_Wanderer | And made a big deal about it |
| 20:52.20 | Lone_Wanderer | and then they told us and it was like |
| 20:52.26 | Lone_Wanderer | ....that's it? That's BORING. |
| 20:53.04 | supernovia | hey wps - there are twitter apps with filters |
| 20:53.42 | Lone_Wanderer | Nothing like the movies at all. So when I went to Ft. Huachuca (home of military intel) I was all excited that I might finally see some cool stuff, and I find out that they're using.... IRC. |
| 20:54.23 | supernovia | See mindjuju, Huachuca is a real word. |
| 20:54.37 | influx | It's a proper noun. |
| 20:54.42 | Lone_Wanderer | wah-choo-kah |
| 20:54.48 | influx | And will not stand in a game of Scrabble. |
| 20:54.56 | supernovia | dang! |
| 20:55.04 | utahcon | yeah but supernovia we don't use it in polite society, only behind closed doors |
| 20:55.18 | supernovia | lol utahcon |
| 20:55.20 | Lone_Wanderer | It sounds like you should say "Bless you" afterward. |
| 20:55.34 | supernovia | ahhh I wish I could go there... now |
| 20:55.50 | Lone_Wanderer | You've been there, supernovia? |
| 20:55.51 | supernovia | we need freakin teleporters already |
| 20:55.52 | utahcon | supernovia: behind closed doors? |
| 20:56.06 | Lone_Wanderer | Closed and locked doors that are EM-shielded. |
| 20:56.10 | supernovia | lol |
| 20:56.33 | supernovia | My brother and sister and their families live in SV |
| 20:56.44 | *** join/#uphpu cro (n=cro@166-70-222-105.ip.xmission.com) |
| 20:57.01 | supernovia | and I'm pretty sure they don't have perma-snow right now |
| 20:57.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I heard about a kid who brought his cell phone into a skiff on accident (sealed building that supposedly no EM can get into our out of, for top secret stuff) so he hid it under a vending machine, which was fine until it started ringing. |
| 20:57.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Yeah I don't think it snows much there. |
| 20:57.18 | stderr | Lone_Wanderer: hey, where are we going snowshoeing again? |
| 20:57.29 | supernovia | It snowed a few weeks ago |
| 20:57.34 | Lone_Wanderer | 30th |
| 20:57.38 | Lone_Wanderer | Doughnut Falls |
| 20:57.40 | supernovia | my nephew was thrilled out of his socks |
| 20:57.41 | stderr | ah word ty |
| 20:57.52 | influx | Lone_Wanderer: What happened to the kid? |
| 20:57.55 | Lone_Wanderer | http://www.utahoutdooractivities.com/doughnutfalls.html |
| 20:58.18 | utahcon | Lone_Wanderer: the donut is no longer there |
| 20:58.20 | utahcon | :( |
| 20:58.24 | Lone_Wanderer | He just got a stern talking to, probably. It was at Huachuca, so he was just an IET student and the stuff they were working on, while technically top secret, probably isn't very sensitive. |
| 20:58.26 | utahcon | it caved |
| 20:58.27 | Lone_Wanderer | What was the donut? |
| 20:58.28 | Lone_Wanderer | awww |
| 20:58.48 | utahcon | The water falls down through what used to look like a donut in the mountain side... |
| 20:58.54 | Lone_Wanderer | It's still a good hike though, right? Plenty of scenery, etc.? |
| 20:59.01 | utahcon | Lone_Wanderer: yes |
| 20:59.08 | utahcon | and quite and easy one too |
| 20:59.09 | Lone_Wanderer | k good |
| 20:59.21 | Lone_Wanderer | Well, we're going on the 30th if you want to come. |
| 20:59.35 | supernovia | Oh yeah? bt I'd have to have snowshoes right? |
| 20:59.40 | Lone_Wanderer | There may be beautiful women from Europe joining us. |
| 20:59.43 | Lone_Wanderer | You can rent them. |
| 20:59.52 | DexterTheDragon | the women? |
| 21:00.01 | Lone_Wanderer | There may also be burly, hairy Russians joining us. I don't really know. |
| 21:00.02 | supernovia | I was invited to a baby shower that day for a girl who hasn't talked to me once in the past 10 months (so I had no idea she was pregnant) |
| 21:00.05 | Lone_Wanderer | (The SNOWSHOES man.) |
| 21:00.12 | stderr | supernovia: you can rent snowshoes from the U for like 4 bucks / day |
| 21:00.22 | Lone_Wanderer | Do you have to be a student? |
| 21:00.25 | stderr | nope |
| 21:00.32 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet |
| 21:00.43 | supernovia | Oooh, I could brush up on my ruski |
| 21:00.51 | utahcon | DexterTheDragon: All women are rentals. |
| 21:01.10 | supernovia | I would be the only non rental eh |
| 21:01.11 | stderr | http://web.utah.edu/campusrec/outdoor_rec/rentals.html |
| 21:01.22 | supernovia | no one's bringing their wife / gf? |
| 21:01.23 | Lone_Wanderer | I actually don't know who all will be there, but I'm posting it on the Couchsurfing International site so we'll probably have at least one person here from another country. |
| 21:01.31 | stderr | oh 6 bucks for a day rental |
| 21:01.37 | stderr | supernovia: my fiancee may come |
| 21:01.45 | Lone_Wanderer | My friend Josh (not DW, a different josh) might bring his wife. Err, she might decide to join him. |
| 21:01.52 | supernovia | cool |
| 21:01.54 | utahcon | supernovia: I would like to think there is such a thing as a free date, but I have never had one |
| 21:01.57 | utahcon | :) |
| 21:02.15 | Lone_Wanderer | The opportunity cost alone can be pretty high. |
| 21:02.23 | supernovia | dang. I need to brush up on those skills. |
| 21:02.47 | supernovia | I think I paid for most of the dates I ever went on in HS. :- |
| 21:02.48 | macnewbold | utahcon: what happened to the donut? did they cut it or something? |
| 21:04.06 | supernovia | *sigh* - anyone going to see Avatar anytime soon? in 3D? |
| 21:04.15 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd like to. |
| 21:04.24 | Lone_Wanderer | Haven't seen it yet. |
| 21:04.25 | supernovia | My kids and the little brother have no desire |
| 21:05.07 | supernovia | Cool. |
| 21:05.29 | Lone_Wanderer | Make your husband take you. |
| 21:05.44 | Lone_Wanderer | That's what they're there for. |
| 21:06.44 | Lone_Wanderer | Excuse me. |
| 21:06.50 | supernovia | It's all good :) |
| 21:06.52 | Lone_Wanderer | I need to go have my foot removed. |
| 21:07.09 | Lone_Wanderer | From my throat. |
| 21:07.44 | supernovia | I am thinking I'll break from my tradition of burying myself in homework and go watch it this afternoon while he's got the kids :-p |
| 21:08.05 | Lone_Wanderer | Where is it playing, and what time? |
| 21:08.44 | supernovia | I was thinking if a group of ppl here wanted to see it I'd go wherever was most convenient |
| 21:10.34 | supernovia | and whenever |
| 21:10.46 | supernovia | but I might just do it this afternoon since I keep meaning to go |
| 21:11.06 | Lone_Wanderer | I'll go |
| 21:11.16 | Lone_Wanderer | I have to be somewhere at... |
| 21:11.31 | Lone_Wanderer | 4:30 |
| 21:12.07 | supernovia | well it'd have to be a group is the thing. Ah, my awkward life. |
| 21:12.13 | Lone_Wanderer | Or 5:30. I can pick. |
| 21:14.37 | influx | I can join if you guys decide on Gateway. |
| 21:14.52 | supernovia | hows that for you, Lone_Wanderer? |
| 21:15.14 | fungus | I would love to see it again, but can't go until after 6 |
| 21:15.14 | Lone_Wanderer | Depends mostly on when. |
| 21:15.34 | supernovia | yeah |
| 21:15.46 | supernovia | I have to get the kids back around 7-ish |
| 21:16.42 | supernovia | also - def. want to see in 3D on Imax (otherwise I'd just wait for the cheap theaters - I've heard that's half the experience) |
| 21:17.13 | supernovia | but yeah I could also just go alone and likely will if a group doesn't work out |
| 21:17.23 | fungus | 3D definitely, Imax, meh. |
| 21:17.32 | tierra | 3d imax was definitely worth it |
| 21:19.00 | fungus | especially since most of the imax theaters in Utah are not full size imax. |
| 21:19.33 | supernovia | seems most of the theaters offering it in 3d are doing it on imax |
| 21:19.41 | supernovia | their version of it, anyhow |
| 21:19.58 | fungus | Not really, there are a ton more theaters doing 3d w/o imax, than w/ |
| 21:21.13 | supernovia | hows the weather in SLC? |
| 21:21.15 | fungus | There are only 3 theaters in salt lake valley with imax |
| 21:22.21 | DexterTheDragon | what are those fungus? |
| 21:22.52 | fungus | megaplex jordan commons, cinemark jordan landing, and I think Gateway does too. |
| 21:23.30 | DexterTheDragon | the clark planitarium is the only thing at the gateway with an imax |
| 21:24.05 | influx | 41 degrees out |
| 21:24.07 | fungus | oh right, so only 2 imax theaters |
| 21:24.15 | supernovia | There's supposedly an Imax screen at Jordan Commons |
| 21:24.41 | supernovia | I think I'm going to go there. |
| 21:26.08 | jtsnow | cinemark uses their own version of imax called "XD"... anyone ever watched a movie there? |
| 21:28.08 | supernovia | guess I'm going to go find out :o) |
| 21:28.21 | supernovia | will let you know. |
| 21:28.27 | *** part/#uphpu supernovia (n=Velda@c-98-202-112-234.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:28.58 | Lone_Wanderer | I wonder who she's going to let know. |
| 21:32.30 | justincarmony | ok |
| 21:32.38 | justincarmony | any windows gurus out there? :P |
| 21:41.24 | blendmaster1024 | yes there are. hopefully not in here./ |
| 21:48.33 | mindjuju | justincarmony - what up? |
| 21:48.59 | justincarmony | is it possible to run a service under the user who is currently logged in? |
| 21:49.10 | mindjuju | yes |
| 21:49.22 | mindjuju | do you know where the services are listed? |
| 21:50.16 | mindjuju | if no, i can tell you |
| 21:50.19 | *** join/#uphpu supernovia (n=Velda@c-98-202-112-234.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:50.23 | mindjuju | just wondering to include it |
| 21:50.32 | mindjuju | here is how you get there if you don't |
| 21:50.47 | mindjuju | start -> setting -> control panel |
| 21:50.55 | mindjuju | then there, choose administrative tools |
| 21:50.58 | mindjuju | then services |
| 21:51.04 | mindjuju | you'll have the list of services there |
| 21:51.10 | mindjuju | find the one you want to change |
| 21:51.15 | mindjuju | right click on it and go to properties |
| 21:51.25 | mindjuju | find the tab on top that says Log On |
| 21:51.34 | mindjuju | that is the account that 'll run the service |
| 21:54.17 | fungus | justincarmony, not dymanically, but statically yes. |
| 21:54.50 | mindjuju | oh was he looking for dynamic? |
| 21:54.52 | justincarmony | the problem mindjuju,fungus is that when I do that, it doesn't log into the eDirectory for Novell |
| 21:55.28 | supernovia | no one else was going to go to Avatar this afternoon right? |
| 21:56.25 | Lone_Wanderer | What time are you planning on going? |
| 21:56.39 | Lone_Wanderer | I'd like to |
| 21:56.41 | Lone_Wanderer | if I can make it |
| 21:57.26 | supernovia | K |
| 21:57.45 | mindjuju | justincarmony, i've never needed it to auth from an eDirectory, but I do know you can tell it a location to auth from, ie Domain account |
| 21:58.27 | justincarmony | thats the problem, the machine isn't setup on a domain |
| 21:58.38 | justincarmony | it uses Novell's custom NetWare login |
| 21:59.19 | mindjuju | what version of winders? |
| 21:59.23 | fungus | justincarmony, doesn't eDirectory replace the Client for Microsoft Networks, or is it just a replacement logon window? |
| 21:59.24 | justincarmony | xp |
| 21:59.40 | justincarmony | fungus: replacement logon window |
| 22:00.05 | fungus | ah, well then that wouldn't make the login available to system services IIRC |
| 22:01.17 | justincarmony | yeah |
| 22:01.24 | justincarmony | there supposedly is a hack to do it |
| 22:01.31 | justincarmony | but the hack isn't working |
| 22:02.45 | justincarmony | mindjuju: do you know a really good netware admin who knows his stuff? :P |
| 22:09.52 | mindjuju | as compared to |
| 22:10.07 | justincarmony | me who knows enough to fiddle around |
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| 22:14.43 | justincarmony | mindjuju: ^^^ |
| 22:15.45 | influx | Anyone have a minute to look over my resume? |
| 22:16.41 | mindjuju | 01If CIFS is enabled on the Netware Volume, he may be able to use the service credentials to access the volume. Otherwise, the service/app would have to be coded with the proper authentication strings to access the volume natively. |
| 22:16.48 | mindjuju | 01justincarmony ^^ |
| 22:18.05 | influx | wtc |
| 22:18.18 | influx | That text appear black to anyone else? |
| 22:18.37 | wps | yes, black for me |
| 22:18.56 | influx | Sorry. I should mention I'm using irssi. |
| 22:19.47 | influx | nm. doesn't matter. |
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| 22:23.58 | influx | 15:15 < influx> Anyone have a minute to look over my resume? |
| 22:24.02 | influx | :) |
| 22:26.48 | influx | K. |
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| 22:46.46 | Lone_Wanderer | ...Lightroom is pretty dang cool |
| 22:46.53 | Lone_Wanderer | and I've only been using it for like ten minutes |
| 22:50.42 | stderr | it's fantastic |
| 22:51.09 | Lone_Wanderer | Just the options for sorting through pictures and picking the good ones is going to save me so much time |
| 22:51.40 | stderr | you can get a flickr to plugin to upload directly from Lightroom too |
| 22:51.46 | Lone_Wanderer | sweet! |
| 22:51.53 | Lone_Wanderer | it goes into Lightroom, right? |
| 22:51.54 | stderr | also search for lightroom presets |
| 22:52.02 | stderr | yea directly into the import modal |
| 22:52.07 | Lone_Wanderer | not something on the Flickr web site? |
| 22:52.44 | stderr | nope built in |
| 22:52.47 | Lone_Wanderer | cool |
| 22:53.02 | Lone_Wanderer | I'm going through the tutorial videos on Adobe's web site |
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| 23:16.27 | influx | Lightroom is the bee's knees. |
| 23:18.14 | wps | lightroom is a pollen sack? |
| 23:18.20 | influx | yes. |
| 23:19.54 | SunSparc | Weird. |
| 23:30.34 | wps | I'm so sick of working |
| 23:30.37 | wps | I want to go ride my bike |
| 23:31.10 | Lone_Wanderer | You should. Go mountain biking. Oh wait, winter. |
| 23:40.27 | mgeary | java is teh suck |
| 23:40.39 | wps | true that |
| 23:43.11 | stderr | true dat* |
| 23:43.23 | stderr | fungus: Lady Gaga? Really? |
| 23:43.38 | fungus | hell yeah. I love me some GaGa |
| 23:44.02 | DexterTheDragon | any recommendations on uninterrupible power supplies? |
| 23:44.04 | PoeticIntensity | her mixes are pretty awesome, I must admit.... |
| 23:44.18 | PoeticIntensity | the power in the kick in "Just Dance" rattles my whole house. |
| 23:44.30 | fungus | DtD, is there really anything other than APC and Tripplite? |
| 23:44.38 | fungus | anything relative anyway... |
| 23:45.06 | DexterTheDragon | was looking at cyberpower ones |
| 23:45.23 | fungus | I guess for cheap personal use, it doesn't really matter. |
| 23:45.26 | wps | gaga released an album titled The Fame in 2008 and then one titled The Fame Monster a year later? |
| 23:45.41 | PoeticIntensity | wps - yes. |
| 23:45.43 | fungus | I think I have a cyberpower UPS at home |
| 23:45.46 | wps | that's the best title she could come up with? |
| 23:45.53 | PoeticIntensity | evidently. |
| 23:46.23 | stderr | I've heard one song once and that was enough |
| 23:46.33 | wps | my 2010 prediction: |
| 23:46.35 | stderr | I am glad that my radio consumption is completely limited to NPR |
| 23:46.37 | wps | The Fame Monster Dance |
| 23:46.47 | wps | I can't get NPR in Utah County |
| 23:46.48 | wps | it sucks |
| 23:47.11 | fungus | I listen to radio either, but I click links on the intarwebs |
| 23:47.45 | fungus | and my teenage niece hooks me up sometimes too. though lately she's been gravitating to J-Pop crap. |
| 23:50.29 | wps | wow, gang star's website is a piece of crap |
| 23:50.29 | wps | http://www.virginrecords.com/starr/indexa.html |
| 23:51.19 | justincarmony | ok fungus, and anyone else here |
| 23:51.20 | fungus | gah, that is painful |
| 23:51.44 | justincarmony | they agreed to change their server OS after tax season to something other than NetWare 6.5 |
| 23:52.00 | PoeticIntensity | holy cow... you're not kiddin', wps... |
| 23:52.00 | stderr | well it's almost been a decade since their last album so I have no doubt they have a crappy website |
| 23:52.03 | PoeticIntensity | that site is horrid. |
| 23:52.05 | justincarmony | for just doing file sharing, would you recommend they use OpenSUSE and what not |
| 23:52.21 | stderr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSszWXkDHa8 |
| 23:52.36 | justincarmony | from Novell |
| 23:52.50 | justincarmony | or just use whatever flavor of Linux I like (probably Ubuntu) :P |
| 23:53.02 | fungus | justincarmony, are you the admin? |
| 23:53.07 | herlo | justincarmony: openSUSE would be fine, or Ubuntu or Fedora or CentOS, or RedHat for something like that... |
| 23:53.37 | fungus | if you are the admin, you should dictate the choice based on your experience |
| 23:53.47 | justincarmony | anyone use Novell's Open Enterprise Server 2? |
| 23:54.21 | fungus | Though if this is production stuff, you may want to favor the production distros over dev |
| 23:54.43 | fungus | eg. SLES > OpenSUSE, RHEL > Fedora, Ubuntu LTS > non LTS, etc |
| 23:54.52 | herlo | for enterprise, sure |
