| 00:00.00 | mindjuju | yeah, is hard to guess as to what might have happened different |
| 00:01.27 | mindjuju | i doubt they can, but i'd like to see a lot of the provisions from the patriot act rolled back |
| 00:01.38 | mindjuju | from a privacy standpoint |
| 00:01.41 | mgeary | oh yes |
| 00:01.45 | unum | I think we'll see some of them |
| 00:03.57 | beandog | did you guys hear that Obama orderd Guantamano closed |
| 00:04.35 | mindjuju | yup |
| 00:04.51 | mindjuju | closed within a year, will be interesting to see 2 things |
| 00:05.07 | mindjuju | where they will be tried, and if they can sue |
| 00:06.34 | beandog | well, we obviously have plenty of cash since we're bailing out companies left and right |
| 00:07.22 | tierra | weird day today... dealt with 2 completely unrelated attacks on two different servers of mine |
| 00:07.44 | mindjuju | what kind of attacks? |
| 00:09.11 | tierra | one was attempting a fraudulent order |
| 00:09.24 | tierra | the other was some web crawler on the loose |
| 00:09.35 | tierra | two crawlers actually |
| 00:10.06 | tierra | which seemed to try to be distracting from their CGI attacks by just spidering the site at the same time |
| 00:10.23 | mindjuju | curious |
| 00:10.28 | tierra | fraudulent order attempt was made from Pakistan |
| 00:11.03 | tierra | the web crawlers were from lanck.net (in Saint Petersburg, Russia) |
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| 00:11.52 | itimber | I'm out guys.... catch ya'll later |
| 00:11.54 | tierra | neither of the attacks were successful, but just weird that I've only ever dealt with stuff like this maybe once a year, and these completely unrelated attacks were on the same day |
| 00:13.28 | dataw0lf | Ugh. I just hope Holder doesn't get the AG spot. |
| 00:14.11 | mindjuju | what do you feel is wrong with holder? |
| 00:14.47 | SunSparc | Night all! |
| 00:23.49 | dataw0lf | mindjuju: mostly his drug policy stances, but various other things like his support for the handgun ban in D.C. (D.C. v. Heller), etc. |
| 00:24.35 | mindjuju | ah |
| 00:27.11 | unum | nice, he's going to end the war on drgus |
| 00:27.13 | unum | hopefully |
| 00:27.28 | dataw0lf | who? |
| 00:27.33 | mgeary | me |
| 00:27.33 | mgeary | i am |
| 00:27.43 | unum | sorry I read that wrong |
| 00:27.49 | dataw0lf | Holder is about as pro-drug war as one can be. |
| 00:27.51 | mgeary | there we go |
| 00:28.24 | unum | ya I was readding the headline wrong |
| 00:28.30 | unum | that is unfortuante |
| 00:29.26 | mindjuju | so how would ya'll approach war on drugs differently? |
| 00:29.55 | dataw0lf | Uh, legalize it and tax it. |
| 00:30.12 | unum | definetly on the softer drugs(maruijana) |
| 00:30.18 | dataw0lf | Marijuana is a trillion dollar crop. Whole swatches of the United States rely on it directly economically. |
| 00:30.32 | unum | I'm not sure how I feel about the harder ones |
| 00:30.41 | dataw0lf | Prohibition has never worked. |
| 00:30.58 | unum | set up more treatment centers |
| 00:31.14 | unum | and don't jail users |
| 00:31.17 | dataw0lf | well I say decriminalize all drugs. I say legalize weed. |
| 00:31.33 | unum | I think I can agree with that |
| 00:31.34 | dataw0lf | nobody should go to jail for 5 years because they have personal use meth. |
| 00:31.49 | dataw0lf | whether or not one agrees with their health decision, it's not a criminal issue. |
| 00:31.58 | unum | we create more problems by jailing people for drug use then we solve |
| 00:33.15 | dataw0lf | definitely. But start small. Let's legalize weed (much like prohibition was repealed at the onset of Roosevelt's term) |
| 00:33.43 | dataw0lf | even conservatives I know who think Roosevelt is a dirty word agree that the repeal of prohibition was a boon economically and socially. |
| 01:00.32 | dataw0lf | Oh wow, Hillibrand tapped to replace Clinton in the Senate. |
| 01:00.42 | dataw0lf | good choice. |
| 01:01.03 | dataw0lf | err Gillibrand |
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| 16:04.01 | jbot | well, baa is the sound a sheep makes |
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| 16:15.10 | mindjuju | morning all |
| 16:15.49 | mgeary | ~yow |
| 16:15.52 | SunSparc | ~morning mindjuju |
| 16:15.53 | jbot | ACTION bends space and time, trapping mindjuju in a universe of eternal monday mornings |
| 16:16.55 | mgeary | ~work jbot |
| 16:16.56 | jbot | ACTION looks over the shoulder of jbot to see what needs to be done and then sets the elves to work getting it all done so jbot can play bzflag |
| 16:21.21 | PoeticIntensity | hooray for bzflag. |
| 16:23.08 | mgeary | python mechanize++ |
| 16:24.19 | mindjuju | ...sigh... google up $17 to 323.91. I wonder if i should sell my 100 shares |
| 16:24.45 | mindjuju | jk - no google stocks ...sigh... |
| 16:24.49 | mindjuju | good to dream though |
| 16:26.27 | SunSparc | Good thing I bought 1000 shares back when it was still $12. |
| 16:26.52 | mindjuju | :) |
| 16:28.01 | mgeary | you know, the whole exec/system/passthru/shell_exec muddle is just a mess |
| 16:28.09 | mgeary | 4 commands that all basically do the same thing |
| 16:28.13 | mgeary | with very slight variations |
| 16:32.25 | mgeary | oh, and backtics |
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| 16:58.22 | carmony | morning |
| 16:58.47 | mgeary | what? Already!? |
| 16:59.28 | orsonj | Yep. An hour after you get here and its suddenly morning! |
| 16:59.58 | orsonj | 'cause it isn't morning till Utah_Dave gets here. |
| 17:00.00 | mgeary | and an hour and a half before itimber will be here ;) |
| 17:00.35 | orsonj | yeah, that is the official marker for early lunch. |
| 17:00.53 | carmony | lol |
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| 17:09.46 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 17:15.50 | mindjuju | ~tunafart utah_dave |
| 17:15.51 | jbot | ACTION eats a week-old tuna sandwich with relish and walks over to utah_dave, leg raised, to let 'em rip. |
| 17:16.03 | Utah_Dave | ~lart mindjuju |
| 17:16.03 | jbot | throws mindjuju's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 17:16.11 | Utah_Dave | oh, not the doggy! |
| 17:16.16 | Utah_Dave | ~lart mindjuju |
| 17:16.16 | jbot | pours gasoline all over mindjuju, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 17:16.17 | mindjuju | :( |
| 17:18.27 | mindjuju | so, who recently wrote some PHP code that they are particularly proud of? |
| 17:21.51 | mindjuju | come on guys, here is your chance and immortality and forever going down in uphpu history! |
| 17:22.21 | mgeary | oh oh oh |
| 17:22.39 | utahcon | mindjuju: I wrote awesome code daily. Unfortunately it is all owned by the overlords. |
| 17:22.49 | mgeary | why do you ask, mindjuju ? |
| 17:23.00 | mindjuju | mgeary --> PM |
| 17:23.09 | utahcon | Anyone worked with Flourish? Likes/dislikes? |
| 17:23.53 | unum | I don't think I've ever written any php code that I'm proud of |
| 17:23.57 | carmony | mindjuju, I have a class that you can pass it a Lat/Lng combo, and it will tell you the City, State, Country, and visa versa |
| 17:24.01 | carmony | lol undertakingyou |
| 17:24.04 | carmony | er unum |
| 17:24.05 | unum | I have c++ code, and some database tricks |
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| 17:37.59 | carmony | mornin thebigdog |
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| 18:06.44 | Utah_Dave | has anyone messedd around with the google ajax api playground? |
| 18:06.58 | Utah_Dave | s/messedd/messed/ |
| 18:07.08 | Utah_Dave | it's pretty cool. |
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| 18:12.27 | carmony | not yet |
| 18:12.30 | carmony | what is so cool about it? |
| 18:12.46 | carmony | orsonj, you were right, itimber connecting is about an early lunch ;) |
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| 18:13.29 | itimber | LOL |
| 18:13.41 | itimber | you're all jealous |
| 18:13.44 | itimber | :) |
| 18:14.05 | unum | I'm only jealous if you're having a nooner |
| 18:14.32 | itimber | that's a negative |
| 18:14.36 | itimber | at least for today |
| 18:14.38 | itimber | LOL |
| 18:14.58 | unum | I live close enough that if I had someone at home, I could pull it off... |
| 18:15.16 | josephscott | ~chuckfact |
| 18:15.17 | jbot | Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops |
| 18:15.33 | carmony | ~chuckfact |
| 18:15.34 | jbot | Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops |
| 18:15.41 | carmony | lol, broken? |
| 18:15.45 | carmony | ~chuckfact |
| 18:15.46 | jbot | Chuck Norris uses Tabasco Sauce for eye drops |
| 18:15.46 | josephscott | jbot needs new chuckfacts |
| 18:15.56 | carmony | there is a book of them now |
| 18:16.20 | itimber | I've heard Chuck Norris isn't a big fan of the Chuck Norris sayings |
| 18:16.23 | itimber | crazy huh |
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| 18:25.13 | mindjuju | hmm, i've actually heard the opposite, that he thought they were funny, but that he posted something on his site somewhere saying that he derives his powers from Jesus Christ and that Jesus is the ultimate power -- something like that, no joke |
| 18:26.28 | SunSparc | Fact = Chuck Norris enjoys Chuck Facts as much as anyone else. |
| 18:26.33 | SunSparc | Proof = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjYv2YW6azE |
| 18:30.14 | mindjuju | i love that one, sunsparc |
| 18:31.08 | mindjuju | i wonder if my code could get the "fist of approval" from chuck norris |
| 18:31.15 | SunSparc | Heh |
| 18:31.25 | SunSparc | That would be a cool "seal" to have on your code. |
| 18:31.45 | mindjuju | should make something up |
| 18:32.57 | SunSparc | Hmmmmm, fistofapproval.com is available.... |
| 18:59.29 | carmony | LOL |
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| 19:00.10 | mindjuju | carmony -> PM sent |
| 19:01.14 | itimber | thx for that SunSparc, I was beginning to think that Chuck Norris was a bit stuck up |
| 19:01.14 | SunSparc | ~smack carmony |
| 19:01.14 | jbot | ACTION smacks carmony upside the head. |
| 19:01.24 | SunSparc | itimber: you are welcome. :) |
| 19:01.46 | SunSparc | I think Chuck, while not the best actor, is a pretty great guy. |
| 19:02.03 | mgeary | except for that whole Huckabee thing |
| 19:02.11 | SunSparc | Well, yeah... heh |
| 19:02.24 | SunSparc | We all have our faults. ;) |
| 19:02.30 | mindjuju | sidekicks was awesome |
| 19:02.31 | mgeary | though i was kind of rooting for Huckabee at the end there, because it would have been so delicious to see Utah vote for Obama |
| 19:02.44 | mindjuju | oh, and Lone Wolf McQuade, was freakin nearly the best movie evar |
| 19:03.08 | mindjuju | it almost beat out Big Trouble in Little China |
| 19:03.23 | SunSparc | Whoa there, mindjuju. |
| 19:03.44 | mindjuju | i know, i know, I said, "almost beat" |
| 19:04.08 | mindjuju | k, gots to split! |
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| 20:08.12 | mindjuju | k, this is a question for all you artist types |
| 20:08.30 | mindjuju | i've got a brushed steel background that I HAVE to use for the background of the page |
| 20:08.49 | mindjuju | the image is 2659 x 1849 |
| 20:09.16 | mindjuju | i'm thinking i should cut it to 1024x768, set the background as black and leave it at that |
| 20:09.40 | mindjuju | that way, if your screen displays greater than 1024, you'll have a background of black on which the brushed is on, else, you're seeing brushed |
| 20:09.43 | mindjuju | what ya'll think? |
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| 20:10.50 | utahcon | got a preview of the image? |
| 20:11.01 | utahcon | what is the filesize of the full image? |
| 20:11.29 | utahcon | could it/does it repeat well? |
| 20:12.01 | mindjuju | hi res filesize is 4.11mb |
| 20:12.05 | mgeary | that's going to be a pig in your page weight |
| 20:12.17 | mgeary | at least 200kb, i'm guessing, if you go 1024x768 |
| 20:12.22 | mgeary | more like 500kb |
| 20:12.29 | mgeary | it won't compress well |
| 20:12.39 | mgeary | but tiling will probably also not look great |
| 20:12.47 | mindjuju | it is originally sized to 2659 x 1849, i think it would tile well |
| 20:13.14 | mgeary | well, what i mean is a smaller section (like 300x300) might not |
| 20:13.22 | mgeary | if your tile is bigger, it might pass |
| 20:13.23 | mindjuju | ah, true that |
| 20:13.34 | mindjuju | espeically if i give it a gausian blur or something |
| 20:14.35 | utahcon | rotate it 90 degrees, chop it to 1024 wide, and see what that does to the size :D |
| 20:14.41 | utahcon | then black around that... :D |
| 20:14.59 | utahcon | no repeat... fixed background. |
| 20:15.10 | utahcon | give you 2659 of height to work with :D |
| 20:15.17 | mindjuju | him, true that |
| 20:15.47 | utahcon | your file size might still be huge |
| 20:15.50 | utahcon | what format is it in? |
| 20:16.13 | mindjuju | 72 dpi jpeg |
| 20:16.28 | mindjuju | v low compression |
| 20:16.49 | mindjuju | since it uses a small band of silver and white, i'll prolly get huge advantage to throw in gif |
| 20:17.09 | utahcon | what about png? |
| 20:24.00 | macnewbold | ~rlart |
| 20:24.14 | jbot | runs at DexterTheDragon with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 20:32.52 | mindjuju | ravetrax is playing hybrid |
| 20:32.57 | mindjuju | so it's cool |
| 20:34.09 | josephscott | DexterTheDragon: see you on Tuesday? |
| 20:34.52 | mindjuju | OALUG Meeting ? |
| 20:35.01 | DexterTheDragon | I guess |
| 20:35.12 | DexterTheDragon | saw ya on the calendar. not sure whats going on |
| 20:35.45 | josephscott | haha |
| 20:35.48 | josephscott | ask mark |
| 20:36.40 | thebigdog | mgeary, what promo did i get? |
| 20:36.54 | mgeary | you were promoted to Operator by ChanServ |
| 20:37.19 | thebigdog | oh nice |
| 20:37.44 | thebigdog | i got 3 new solaris servers too...oh yeah.... |
| 20:38.01 | mindjuju | i heard solaris bites |
| 20:38.22 | thebigdog | yeah...it does have some cool stuff though |
| 20:38.35 | thebigdog | zfs is really nice and containers in solaris 10 are really awesome |
| 20:38.49 | mindjuju | ~dhit thebigdog |
| 20:38.49 | jbot | ACTION appears on thebigdog's left side and performs the Ricer Slayer Blow upon thebigdog's shoulder |
| 20:39.14 | cro | Solaris is fine after you install gcc and compile all the gnu tools for it. :-) |
| 20:39.36 | thebigdog | cro, no doubt |
| 20:39.45 | thebigdog | or just install linux on sun hardware |
| 20:40.09 | thebigdog | i will be trying the containers with linux and see how they are running |
| 20:41.12 | SunSparc | Linux on Sun is fun. |
| 20:42.50 | thebigdog | man i finally moved away from bind...oh yeah oh yeah |
| 20:43.11 | SunSparc | Congrats thebigdog! |
| 20:43.13 | SunSparc | To what? |
| 20:43.19 | thebigdog | djbdns |
| 20:43.22 | SunSparc | YES!!! |
| 20:43.27 | SunSparc | I was hoping you would say that. |
| 20:43.30 | SunSparc | You like it? |
| 20:43.47 | thebigdog | i have been meaning to do it for about 6 months now and finally did it |
| 20:43.52 | thebigdog | i really really like it |
| 20:44.14 | SunSparc | I have been using it for almost a decade and I have nothing but good things to say about it. |
| 20:45.32 | thebigdog | im surprised it took me so long |
| 20:45.50 | thebigdog | i have been a huge fan of postfix and i just thought i would have moved to it long ago |
| 20:46.36 | SunSparc | Now you can breathe a sigh of relief. |
| 20:47.48 | mgeary | i'd like to know more about it |
| 20:50.05 | thebigdog | mgeary, that is a great article from linux journal on it that i referenced |
| 20:50.10 | thebigdog | let me grab the link |
| 20:50.12 | SunSparc | http://cr.yp.to/djbdns.html |
| 20:50.37 | thebigdog | http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/10112 |
| 20:51.05 | thebigdog | the one thing that i did not like about that site SunSparc is that he does not really go over the format of the data file |
| 20:51.13 | thebigdog | i had to find other examples that helped me out |
| 20:51.40 | thebigdog | but it does have some really good examples |
| 20:51.44 | SunSparc | thebigdog: Yes, the documentation could be a bit more verbose. |
| 20:53.58 | herlo | josephscott: ping |
| 20:54.07 | josephscott | herlo: pong |
| 20:54.26 | herlo | josephscott: got some interesting questions for you about wp, got a minute? |
| 20:54.32 | josephscott | sure |
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| 20:55.24 | herlo | k, so at the Fedora Project, we're talking about a CMS and they have this template of features they want. Wondered if you could talk to me about each one, whether WP has it and why or why not WP as a CMS in this fashion is a good idea |
| 20:55.39 | herlo | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_CMS_Template <-- here's the list |
| 20:57.00 | herlo | josephscott: unfortunately, I'm not well informed enough to answer these questions and thought you might be |
| 20:58.09 | josephscott | list is a bit odd, how many times to the have to re-phrase the same question? |
| 20:58.48 | josephscott | I'm not familiar with their auth, but presumably could work |
| 21:01.52 | josephscott | Haven't seen WP do 'Content expiration (automatic) ' but would be good for a plugin |
| 21:03.35 | josephscott | "Handle making certain pages or content areas static/non-database driven" - does caching count? |
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| 21:06.28 | josephscott | herlo: I think WP is a possibility there, though not sure how well it will do at all of the workflow items. There are contributor roles in WP that do some of that, but it's fairly simple |
| 21:06.43 | herlo | sorry, phone call |
| 21:07.06 | herlo | FAS has an API, I think we can work with that |
| 21:07.12 | herlo | I understand it well enough |
| 21:07.50 | jsmith | josephscott: What about translations into different languages? |
| 21:08.07 | jsmith | josephscott: (As long as herlo's going to bring the discussion here, I'll ask my questions here) |
| 21:08.09 | herlo | josephscott: so the content expiration stuff seems reasonably simple enough. I think part of the issue is to have the documentation workflow fit here |
| 21:08.21 | herlo | jsmith: hehe, I am glad you are here to have the conversation |
| 21:08.35 | josephscott | jsmith: WP as locale support |
| 21:09.00 | jsmith | herlo: Good plan... |
| 21:09.17 | josephscott | themes and plugins can even include their own translations |
| 21:09.27 | herlo | josephscott: you mind discussing that with us over there? Sounds like we might get more people though... |
| 21:09.33 | josephscott | k |
| 21:11.11 | herlo | lol it shouldn't be too bad |
| 21:17.47 | mgeary | ~rlart |
| 21:17.48 | jbot | DoSes eggyknap |
| 21:19.20 | josephscott | ~chuckfact |
| 21:19.21 | jbot | Chuck Norris hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush |
| 21:28.42 | DexterTheDragon | jbot needs more than the 5 chuckfact's it has |
| 21:29.23 | mindjuju | jbot has a string limit |
| 21:29.31 | mindjuju | seems like it only allowed those 5 |
| 21:30.28 | mgeary | Chuck Norris is a pansy |
| 21:31.18 | josephscott | ~lart mgeary |
| 21:31.18 | jbot | follow's mgeary with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION |
| 21:34.39 | mindjuju | mgeary, is your middle initial c? |
| 21:34.46 | mgeary | who wants to know? |
| 21:34.51 | mindjuju | well, me |
| 21:34.54 | mgeary | you wondering about my Abs of Steel? |
| 21:35.06 | mindjuju | abs of steel? |
| 21:35.10 | mgeary | http://www.michael-geary.com/ |
| 21:35.28 | mindjuju | oh, i remember, that's not you |
| 21:35.28 | mgeary | google michael geary and look at the sponsored links on the right |
| 21:35.49 | mgeary | or are you more thinking of Michael Geary the vedic |
| 21:35.58 | mgeary | http://www.drgeary.co.uk/approach.html |
| 21:36.14 | mindjuju | the one that says mike geary's a lunatic? |
| 21:36.17 | mindjuju | weird |
| 21:36.23 | mindjuju | so, about that middle initial |
| 21:36.28 | mgeary | it's J |
| 21:36.28 | mindjuju | is it C? |
| 21:36.30 | mgeary | why? |
| 21:36.39 | mgeary | where did you see michael c geary? |
| 21:36.59 | mindjuju | on facebook, i'm waiting for some clown to upload some materials for me to finish a project |
| 21:37.06 | mindjuju | so i'm just wasting time until they get to me |
| 21:37.12 | mindjuju | and I saw you comment in IRC |
| 21:37.18 | mindjuju | decided to see if you was on facebook |
| 21:37.28 | mindjuju | and there is a michael c geary, in Utah |
| 21:37.40 | mindjuju | but i just noticed he graduated in 08, which i doubt was you |
| 21:37.46 | mindjuju | should have noticed ealier |
| 21:37.49 | mgeary | psh. young punk |
| 21:38.07 | mgeary | i actually do have a facebook thingy |
| 21:38.13 | mgeary | had to for some testing recently |
| 21:38.31 | mgeary | but i try not to think about it |
| 21:38.43 | mindjuju | heh |
| 21:38.44 | josephscott | http://www.michael-geary.com/ - "Website currently offline............." :-) |
| 21:38.44 | mgeary | i'm on linkedin, though |
| 21:38.54 | mgeary | josephscott: that's because i'm working on my abs |
| 21:39.00 | mgeary | too busy to cobble html |
| 21:41.33 | mindjuju | for those of you listeniung to ravetrax and find the music totally awesome - like me - then feast your eyes on this |
| 21:41.34 | mindjuju | http://www.hybridized.org/sets/516 |
| 21:41.48 | mindjuju | the author page |
| 21:55.22 | DexterTheDragon | mindjuju: nice |
| 21:58.18 | mindjuju | :) |
| 22:18.03 | *** join/#uphpu jnbek (n=jnbek@unaffiliated/jnbek) |
| 22:34.41 | mindjuju | dexterthedragon, hyridized.org is an awesome site where hybrid and others post their mix tapes |
| 22:34.57 | mindjuju | so you'll see a lot of hybrid stuff and other things there for download, FREE & Legal! |
| 22:35.27 | mindjuju | much to the chagrin of dataw0lf and thebigdog, i'm sure |
| 22:41.39 | carmony_ | Chet? |
| 22:41.42 | carmony_ | Cher* |
| 22:41.49 | fungus | Of course! |
| 23:44.37 | fungus | I just got a new 1.5TB drive today. Time to start my torrent engines. :) |
| 23:44.46 | tierra | what model? |
| 23:45.07 | fungus | Seagate FreeAgent Desk (external) |
| 23:45.10 | mindjuju | awesome! |
| 23:45.17 | tierra | ah, nice |
| 23:45.17 | itimber | fo sho |
| 23:45.23 | fungus | Only $150 |
| 23:45.38 | itimber | nice |
| 23:46.25 | fungus | I actually started the order process before I even thought what I would use it for. I don't need it that badly. |
| 23:46.50 | mindjuju | you can give it to me if you like |
| 23:46.56 | fungus | lol |
| 23:47.19 | fungus | Too late, I plan to start ripping my DVD collection. |
| 23:47.21 | tierra | looks like I don't quite need a new 1.5TB drive yet |
| 23:47.24 | tierra | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 23:47.25 | tierra | /dev/md0 2.8T 1.6T 1.3T 56% /media/Levasseur |
| 23:47.35 | tierra | hehe |
| 23:47.37 | fungus | very nice. |