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| 00:09.56 | PoeticIntensity | adios, all! |
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| 03:27.08 | mindjuju | any DJ or audioPhiles in the house? |
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| 04:07.58 | orsonj | not really, but you pique my curiosity. |
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| 12:48.25 | timinator | mawnin' |
| 12:49.21 | mindjuju | morn to you timinator |
| 12:51.54 | mindjuju | what you doing up so early? |
| 12:53.56 | influx^^ | >.< |
| 12:54.17 | mindjuju | sup influx^^ |
| 12:54.31 | influx^^ | nm, good sir |
| 12:54.37 | influx^^ | How are u |
| 12:54.54 | mindjuju | just getting started on the day early, have tons of stuff to push out |
| 12:54.57 | mindjuju | 4a, wow |
| 12:55.00 | mindjuju | that's gross |
| 12:55.02 | mindjuju | why? |
| 12:55.12 | influx^^ | Yeah. Went to bed at 6/7 though. |
| 12:55.27 | influx^^ | My sleep schedule has been weird the past few days. |
| 13:23.54 | timinator | *yawn |
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| 14:38.50 | timinator | oh, sorry mindjuju, just noticed your question |
| 14:39.18 | timinator | I get up anytime between 4-6am |
| 14:39.45 | timinator | :) |
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| 15:46.32 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 15:47.44 | mindjuju | what i don't get is, how does a compnay with that many sploits, this week alone, have the huevos to release a firewall/virus scanner? |
| 15:47.55 | thebigdog | i had to install 4 today |
| 15:48.03 | thebigdog | reboot install more and reboot |
| 15:48.04 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 15:48.53 | PoeticIntensity | quite simply - because "Microsoft is the trusted name in both the home and the office." |
| 15:49.05 | PoeticIntensity | Microsoft makes it, CTOs trust it. :) |
| 15:49.16 | mindjuju | yeah, trusted to be 'sploit friendly |
| 15:49.17 | PoeticIntensity | despite all the other crud. |
| 15:49.23 | mindjuju | trusted to require tons of time to patch |
| 15:49.47 | mindjuju | talking about MS, have ya'll seen the latest in MS v RedHat from ballmer yesterday? - http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2200717/microsoft-sharpens-aims-patent |
| 15:49.48 | influx^^ | More like trusted to be awesome. |
| 15:51.55 | mindjuju | i think ballmer may be the devil |
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| 15:52.54 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: why do you run windows on your servers? You mentioned it was colo'ed with xmission. |
| 15:53.10 | Utah_Dave | why not run you php apps on linux? |
| 15:53.21 | mindjuju | because i like living on the edge |
| 15:53.33 | mindjuju | a stress junkie |
| 15:53.51 | mindjuju | actually, it's cause the owner here LOVES microsoft, tried that transfer 2 years ago |
| 15:53.55 | Utah_Dave | :) |
| 15:54.03 | mindjuju | and even with my vaunted powers here, i got struck down |
| 15:54.30 | Utah_Dave | don't tell him |
| 15:54.31 | mindjuju | but just like lichen, php springs up in the oddest places! |
| 15:54.52 | dataw0lf | you're right, PHP is like lichen. |
| 15:54.56 | dataw0lf | AND PYTHON IS A REDWOOD |
| 15:55.00 | mindjuju | yup, i'm rolling out an app next week that will be the front end of a file transfer system |
| 15:55.20 | thebigdog | anyone ever use a fm radio card on linux? |
| 15:55.31 | mindjuju | ~flip dataw0lf |
| 15:55.32 | jbot | ACTION gives dataw0lf the .|.. ..|. |
| 15:56.34 | Utah_Dave | dataw0lf: I still don't like using Python on the web yet |
| 15:56.40 | mindjuju | some days, i'm glad i'm from Texas - http://www.break.com/residentevil/girl-is-human-sling-shot.html |
| 15:56.51 | dataw0lf | Utah_Dave: Man, I love it. |
| 15:58.00 | Utah_Dave | django? |
| 15:58.09 | dataw0lf | Django and Pylons |
| 15:58.37 | dataw0lf | my only complaint about Django after using it for so long is SQLObject. I'd prefer SQLAlchemy. |
| 15:58.52 | dataw0lf | and the SQLAlchemy branch isn't as refined. |
| 15:59.05 | Utah_Dave | I've fooled around with both a while back. I just feel so at home with PHP though |
| 15:59.24 | dataw0lf | Not me. |
| 16:03.31 | mgeary | mindjuju: that slingshot video is at the house of a good friend of mine |
| 16:03.35 | mgeary | in Hobble Creek Canyon |
| 16:03.45 | mindjuju | too risky |
| 16:03.49 | mgeary | i've done it. it's a rush |
| 16:03.55 | mindjuju | you're kidding |
| 16:03.56 | mgeary | nope |
| 16:04.08 | mgeary | it's a pretty solid system. several bungee cables |
| 16:04.27 | mgeary | attached to basically two telephone poles that were installed just for that reason |
| 16:04.37 | mindjuju | how deep do they go? |
| 16:04.41 | mgeary | dunno |
| 16:05.03 | mgeary | now, when i did it, i just had a bunch of guys pull me back. didn't use an ATV |
| 16:05.19 | mindjuju | looks like they pull her back like 50' |
| 16:05.29 | mindjuju | and looks like she sails away about the same |
| 16:05.30 | mgeary | yeah, they go back farther than i'd like |
| 16:05.45 | mgeary | but people go there literally every week to play on it |
| 16:06.00 | mindjuju | anybody ever played and not come back? |
| 16:06.04 | mgeary | the owner has BYU connections, so BYU wards schedule time and come up all the time |
| 16:06.15 | mindjuju | you're kidding! |
| 16:06.17 | mgeary | dunno if there've ever been injuries. never heard of any |
| 16:06.18 | mgeary | nope |
| 16:09.22 | brasto | anyone here stuck with using Novel Groupwise? |
| 16:09.24 | brasto | If so, what do you use for a client in Linux? |
| 16:10.21 | brasto | I like thunderbird for mail, but I can't get lightning to work with the calendar and "checklist" (aka "tasks")... |
| 16:11.06 | timinator | anyone programming php on a PC? |
| 16:11.14 | timinator | what IDE do you use/like? |
| 16:11.55 | orsonj | vim (or notepad++ on windows) |
| 16:13.05 | orsonj | I edit files directly on a local test site, then use rsync to upload to production. |
| 16:13.48 | orsonj | I keep backups with bzr (any vcs would work though) |
| 16:13.57 | timinator | k |
| 16:14.51 | orsonj | I still need a db backup procedure though. |
| 16:17.57 | Utah_Dave | timinator: I use eclipse with the PHP plugin |
| 16:18.11 | timinator | cool |
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| 16:34.01 | macnewbold | ~yow |
| 16:34.28 | mindjuju | heya macnewbold , did you ever build that SMS gateway we talked about like a year ago? |
| 16:35.04 | mindjuju | remember getting all the phone companies and their email address was it, or something like that? |
| 16:36.40 | mindjuju | hmmm... utah_dave , you still around? |
| 16:43.30 | Utah_Dave | yep! |
| 16:43.44 | Utah_Dave | wassup, mindjuju |
| 16:47.09 | Utah_Dave | ~wake mindjuju |
| 16:47.09 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on mindjuju and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 16:58.33 | influx^^ | *canned laughter* |
| 17:00.32 | orsonj | ~wash influx^^ |
| 17:00.33 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on influx^^ and says "That was for the smell" |
| 17:17.02 | mgeary | ~stinky influx^^ |
| 17:17.03 | jbot | ACTION throws influx^^ into the shower and scrubs vigorously with Liquid Plumber and a wire brush. "Ewww, i am NOT cleaning the hair from the drain" |
| 17:21.51 | mindjuju | utah_dave , sorry about that, had quick meet |
| 17:21.54 | mindjuju | you still around? |
| 17:22.32 | mindjuju | ~seen jsmith |
| 17:22.34 | jbot | jsmith is currently on #asterisk-doc (1h 23m 15s) #fredlug (1h 23m 15s) #asterisk-dev (1h 23m 15s) #asterisk-bugs (1h 23m 15s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 8m 4s, last said: 'blitzrage: Make sure you do an 'svn update' before writing docs today... I stubbed out some more chapters'. |
| 17:28.37 | cole_joplin | ping Black_Chaos |
| 17:31.00 | Utah_Dave | OK, mindjuju. I'm back |
| 17:31.05 | mindjuju | awesome |
| 17:31.11 | mindjuju | have you worked any with SMS ? |
| 17:31.24 | Utah_Dave | no, not yet. |
| 17:31.30 | mindjuju | i'm looking for an SMS gateway and looking for recommendations |
| 17:31.35 | Utah_Dave | But I'm going to be in the next few months |
| 17:31.54 | mindjuju | will prolly hit it at the same time |
| 17:36.22 | Utah_Dave | mindjuju: cool, we'll have to compare notes when we get going |
| 17:37.28 | mindjuju | fo sho |
| 17:38.36 | orsonj | meeting topic++ |
| 17:46.15 | thebigdog | clear |
| 17:46.50 | thebigdog | pull |
| 17:46.57 | mindjuju | oh, is that the verb |
| 17:47.02 | mindjuju | couldn't recall |
| 17:47.06 | thebigdog | yeah |
| 17:47.21 | thebigdog | hehe i was streaming kber out to our network |
| 17:47.25 | thebigdog | i wondering if that is bad |
| 17:48.23 | orsonj | clear == shock paddles |
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| 17:49.36 | thebigdog | hehe i love vlc |
| 17:50.00 | orsonj | ~vlc++ |
| 17:50.10 | thebigdog | i told my boss i wanted to setup a radio server...he actually is contemplating it |
| 17:52.19 | PoeticIntensity | nice! |
| 17:52.29 | mindjuju | rice! |
| 17:52.32 | PoeticIntensity | vlc++ |
| 17:54.01 | thebigdog | pvc |
| 17:54.15 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 17:54.20 | orsonj | mmmmm.. mexican sounds good right now. |
| 17:54.23 | PoeticIntensity | IRC |
| 17:55.25 | thebigdog | orsonj you got that right |
| 17:55.35 | mindjuju | so do we have enough people for a LAN on friday? |
| 17:55.39 | PoeticIntensity | do we have any La Frontera fans out there? |
| 17:55.53 | PoeticIntensity | (106 South) |
| 17:56.07 | PoeticIntensity | the most *amazing* smothered burritos I've ever had. |
| 17:56.17 | PoeticIntensity | but alas... I live in Springville. |
| 17:56.33 | thebigdog | oh man...smothered burrito sounds soo good |
| 17:57.26 | mindjuju | i could go for some Gen Tso 's chicken |
| 17:57.34 | PoeticIntensity | let's not talk about it, thebigdog . |
| 17:57.48 | PoeticIntensity | once I get the taste, I'd almost rather get fired than not have one. :) |
| 17:58.18 | mindjuju | i could just buy some food for you guys, pack it in ice and send it delivery |
| 17:59.18 | orsonj | now That would be a geek lunch. Mail order food, then eat while chatting in irc |
| 18:00.36 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 18:00.38 | PoeticIntensity | indeed! |
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| 18:28.20 | synic | mindjuju: did you check Shiloh out? |
| 18:28.31 | macnewbold | company lunch at Costa Vida, to celebrate team member #6 and #7 starting this week |
| 18:28.44 | mindjuju | yeah, shiloh was awesome! |
| 18:29.03 | synic | I think "Outsider" is my favorite |
| 18:29.09 | synic | slow, bassy... aah yeah. |
| 18:52.07 | thebigdog | wps you get your ssh/sync working |
| 18:59.00 | mindjuju | any good? |
| 18:59.05 | thebigdog | hehe |
| 19:01.09 | cycokilr | their salads aren't too bad.. |
| 19:01.26 | cycokilr | one of their dressings is really good.. the other one is captain sucky.. |
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| 19:01.39 | mgeary | chicken enchilada wasn't bad, but way too much pico sauce on everything |
| 19:01.44 | mgeary | pico sauce-- |
| 19:02.05 | influx^^ | so, someone tell me what this means: |
| 19:02.07 | influx^^ | man woman |
| 19:02.12 | influx^^ | segmentation fault (core dumped) |
| 19:02.21 | influx^^ | I know man is just a command for manual |
| 19:02.28 | influx^^ | but I don't get the segmentation fault line |
| 19:03.34 | cycokilr | mebbe cause there isn't no manual for women.. cause man don't know how they work? |
| 19:03.36 | cycokilr | silly.. |
| 19:03.44 | timinator | man woman |
| 19:04.26 | cycokilr | or maybe if you really saw the manual for a woman, your brain would core dump as well.. |
| 19:04.42 | influx^^ | I don't think you're helping much. :( |
| 19:05.06 | cycokilr | it's alright.. i've seen you talk to women and it all makes sense.. |
| 19:05.16 | thebigdog | haha |
| 19:06.00 | influx^^ | I wasn't aware you had the capacity to make connections. |
| 19:06.56 | timinator | alright, that's enough with the low blows.... I'm sure you're both very good at attracting women. |
| 19:07.27 | timinator | :) |
| 19:07.37 | cycokilr | i wasn't dealing any low blows.. i was just poking fun if he really didn't know what that meant.. |
| 19:07.43 | influx^^ | Mhmm. |
| 19:07.44 | cycokilr | he like to shoot back hard though.. |
| 19:08.10 | influx^^ | 'ey, mang. You play wit fire, you gon' get burnt, ese. |
| 19:08.19 | influx^^ | I kid. |
| 19:08.30 | cycokilr | it's okay, i'm not burnt.. |
| 19:08.50 | cycokilr | i've got 4 kids, so apparently i'm not doing too bad.. |
| 19:09.29 | cycokilr | (in the general area of all this anyway) |
| 19:09.54 | cycokilr | alright, i'm done.. |
| 19:11.54 | cycokilr | so, how about those red sox? |
| 19:13.53 | mindjuju | dude falls while demo of a ladder -- http://www.break.com/index/ladder-collapses-on-dude.html |
| 19:31.57 | brasto | mindjuju - that's a good one |
| 19:32.33 | brasto | I like his immediate excuse once he recovers from his daze: "actually, I didn't have it locked" |
| 19:33.27 | timinator | that was very funny mindjuju... I passed it to several other people who also enjoyed it |
| 19:33.33 | thebigdog | i would have chimed in with "safety first" |
| 19:34.40 | brasto | right before the ladder collapsed, he said: "It's locked in place". After the fall, he says "actually, I didn't have it locked"... |
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| 19:50.08 | cole_joplin | so, by chance did anyone see the job posting to the group from ToptenReviews.com? |
| 19:51.46 | cole_joplin | Is everyone at the lunch right now? |
| 19:51.58 | mgeary | i'm here |
| 19:52.26 | mgeary | didn't see the post |
| 19:53.33 | Utah_Dave | I saw the post |
| 19:55.26 | PoeticIntensity | :) |
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| 19:55.51 | PoeticIntensity | wb mikesmullin |
| 19:58.24 | cole_joplin | well, if anyone wants to know, I recommended NOT talking to them |
| 19:58.48 | cole_joplin | I think most people know I worked there |
| 19:59.06 | cole_joplin | and this post is to replace another programmer who is leaving |
| 19:59.25 | cole_joplin | To say it's a bad work situation would be a massive understatement |
| 19:59.45 | cole_joplin | bad management, bad financials |
| 20:00.09 | cole_joplin | However, if you have an ENEMY, then this is perfect for them |
| 20:01.00 | cole_joplin | so just wanted to warn the group, at least those who don't know the ugly details |
| 20:01.41 | cole_joplin | I'll be happy to give them. I just didn't want anyone to get sucked into this black hole of doom. |
| 20:02.15 | dataw0lf | hey, thebigdog, you should apply at TopTenReviews.com, I hear they rock. |
| 20:02.43 | brasto | http://www.starwarsspoofs.com |
| 20:03.56 | brasto | there are some very good star wars spoofs on the above link |
| 20:06.48 | dataw0lf | railsenvy.com, just in case you haven't seen it yet. |
| 20:06.59 | PoeticIntensity | brasto, these spoofs are hilarious. |
| 20:09.17 | beandog | cole_joplin, black hole of doom? |
| 20:09.21 | beandog | or is it, doooooooom |
| 20:09.26 | beandog | ~doom |
| 20:09.26 | jbot | ACTION stalks beandog, chanting doom on you, doom on you! |
| 20:10.23 | brasto | cole_joplin - or is it "the pit of dispair" |
| 20:14.47 | cole_joplin | beandog: micromanagement by a goof, financial instability -- doom |
| 20:15.12 | cole_joplin | oh, yeah....DDOOOOOoooommmmm!!!! |
| 20:15.37 | cole_joplin | Well the new management treats people like children |
| 20:16.05 | cole_joplin | they laid off 2/3 of the company, and can't keep people from quitting and finding other jobs |
| 20:16.46 | _psychic_ | market is too tight right now to work in a crappy job |
| 20:16.46 | mindjuju | cole_joplin - you should mention the ice cream they were handing out |
| 20:16.46 | cole_joplin | when they did their layoff, it was no notice, no severance, no PTO compensation -- just "get out now" |
| 20:16.48 | cycokilr | hey, anyone used that .LRN program? |
| 20:17.10 | cole_joplin | oh, yeah, their way of soothing the remaining people is to feed them ice cream |
| 20:17.23 | cole_joplin | part of this is because they can't afford air conditioning |
| 20:17.25 | cycokilr | ooh, i love ice cream.. |
| 20:17.31 | cole_joplin | part is because you are a child |
| 20:18.01 | cole_joplin | there was a test to see how bad a micromanager Gerald was (the poster) |
| 20:18.26 | cole_joplin | in the first hour, he had looked over every developer's shoulder 8 times -- one hour |
| 20:19.04 | cycokilr | wow, that guy would hate me.. |
| 20:19.09 | cole_joplin | I've seen him have emotional blowups on employees, just a fit, yelling, way out of line |
| 20:19.31 | dataw0lf | hehe, I'd like to see a guy do that to me. |
| 20:20.09 | cycokilr | i would to actually.. |
| 20:20.40 | cycokilr | i haven't seen a good beating for a while.. |
| 20:20.49 | wps | http://rafb.net/p/0EtOnQ35.html (9 lines) |
| 20:21.00 | wps | that for loops is only looping once |
| 20:21.04 | wps | can anyone see why? |
| 20:21.46 | wps | oh… ha ha ha |
| 20:21.47 | wps | nevermind |
| 20:22.02 | cole_joplin | so anyway, it's not a job I would recommend looking into |
| 20:23.55 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: so you going to be hanging out this weekend or what? |
| 20:24.09 | cycokilr | going to the zoo i think.. |
| 20:24.37 | dataw0lf | I mean with me, you dipstick |
| 20:24.43 | cycokilr | really i should load a couple servers that i've been putting off for a month or so.. |
| 20:24.51 | cycokilr | what? you're coming this weekend? |
| 20:26.43 | dataw0lf | ... |
| 20:26.44 | dataw0lf | yes |
| 20:27.12 | dataw0lf | I leave tomorrow after work and should be in town around midnight |
| 20:27.29 | dataw0lf | bringing a keg of microbrew and some other beer that's hard to get in Utah |
| 20:27.55 | cycokilr | well dude, i had not idea you were coming this soon.. but yeah man, i'm down for hanging out.. |
| 20:28.41 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: word |
| 20:28.42 | cycokilr | you'll be here midnight friday morning then? |
| 20:28.48 | dataw0lf | yea |
| 20:28.53 | cycokilr | nice.. |
| 20:28.55 | dataw0lf | staying at tierra / eco's house |
| 20:29.02 | cycokilr | you still have my number? |
| 20:29.36 | dataw0lf | give it to me again just in case |
| 20:31.12 | cycokilr | yeah man, make sure you get ahold of me.. i have a designated driver these days so i can go anywhere no matter how little blood in my alcohol.. |
| 20:31.40 | *** join/#uphpu SunSparc (n=sparky@66.7.114.125) |
| 20:31.44 | cycokilr | plus The Kelsey'd be happy to see you too man.. |
| 20:33.01 | cycokilr | you get that pm dataw0lf? |
| 20:33.26 | dataw0lf | nope |
| 20:34.11 | cycokilr | oh.. well my number is 680-9873 |
| 20:34.39 | cycokilr | i wasn't sure about all these geeky programmer types in here having it, but i can take my chances.. |
| 20:35.00 | dataw0lf | word |
| 20:35.10 | dataw0lf | mine's 775-223-5525 |
| 20:37.06 | cycokilr | what's the general area of tierra's place/ |
| 20:37.18 | dataw0lf | Sandy |
| 20:37.51 | cycokilr | that's cool.. we're a little closer than downtown now then.. |
| 20:38.12 | dataw0lf | where you guys living now? |
| 20:38.34 | cycokilr | 2700 South 456 East |
| 20:38.44 | cycokilr | (crap, now they all have my address too) |
| 20:38.59 | cycokilr | The Kelsey bought a house.. |
| 20:39.05 | fungus | cycokilr: Did you forget that this channel is logged, and google crawls it. |
| 20:39.19 | dataw0lf | oh noes google crawls teh logs |
| 20:39.37 | cycokilr | nah, just seeing what kind of reaction i can get out of all the geeky programmer types in here.. |
| 20:39.53 | xilch|w | cycokilr likes scary bear-women! |
| 20:39.54 | cycokilr | i do like anchovies.. good call.. |
| 20:40.01 | dataw0lf | me too, save some for me, cycokilr |
| 20:40.17 | Black_Chaos | I'm using it for when ever I have to sign up for online crap. all I need is the email address |
| 20:40.18 | cycokilr | bear-women? yikes.. |
| 20:40.30 | dataw0lf | cycokilr: me and the girlfriend are getting a house too |
| 20:40.36 | mindjuju | bear-women = xtraHairy ? |
| 20:40.36 | dataw0lf | you'll get to meet her this weekend. |
| 20:40.49 | cycokilr | right on.. |
| 20:41.00 | cycokilr | having a house is so much nicer than an apt man.. |
| 20:41.05 | dataw0lf | yea, no kidding |
| 20:41.33 | cycokilr | although our last apartments weren't too bad.. a little too much party there, but not bad.. |
| 21:01.11 | wps | why do people say semi-transparent? |
| 21:01.15 | wps | there is a word for that |
| 21:01.24 | wps | translucent |
| 21:01.59 | wps | it's like asking how may children I have and me responding with "between zero and two" |
| 21:03.35 | thebigdog | when people ask me how long i have been married i tell them 4 kids long |
| 21:05.21 | dataw0lf | yea, when people ask me how long I've been such an arse, I say "for as long as I've known you" |
| 21:05.50 | thebigdog | even better |
| 21:06.01 | wps | :) |
| 21:08.40 | dataw0lf | yea, I hate 'semi-transparent' too wade |
| 21:08.41 | SunSparc | Does anyone here know, an svn server, Is there a way to tell which users have done an update and at when their last update was? Not commit, but update. |
| 21:10.26 | wps | it grates against my nerves like "I could care less" and "irregardless" |
| 21:10.49 | mgeary | "at this point in time" |
| 21:11.20 | mindjuju | _psychic_ you around ? |
| 21:11.26 | Black_Chaos | SunSparc: If your server was apache it should be in the access log. Other than that I don't know |
| 21:11.45 | SunSparc | Black_Chaos: Ok, thanks |
| 21:14.04 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: yeah |
| 21:14.41 | mindjuju | awesome! seems like you told me _psychic_ that you'd setup red5 on a couple of servers, what is the max connections that red5 supports? |
| 21:14.47 | mindjuju | i can't seem to find it in any of the faqs |
| 21:14.53 | thebigdog | ~seen drip |
| 21:14.54 | jbot | drip <n=chatzill@208.177.146.102.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uphpu, 6d 5h 49m 22s ago, saying: 'the left half of my brain must be on a sugar high.. my right arm is going crazy.'. |
| 21:15.09 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: mmm dunno we never did anything really high load :/ |
| 21:15.18 | mindjuju | thebigdog , that's wrong, he was just in last night, saw him, though he didn't say anything |
| 21:15.30 | mindjuju | _psychic_ do you think it'd handle 40 + connections ? |
| 21:15.42 | thebigdog | mindjuju, he did a bad thing last night |
| 21:15.49 | _psychic_ | mindjuju: simultaneously |
| 21:15.51 | _psychic_ | ? |
| 21:16.03 | mindjuju | yes _psychic_ |
| 21:16.08 | SunSparc | mindjuju: yes, 40 connections should be fine, as long as your pipe and processor can handle it |
| 21:16.08 | mindjuju | it'll be streaming flv files |
| 21:16.11 | _psychic_ | maybe |
| 21:16.15 | SunSparc | red5 itself is pretty robust |
| 21:16.15 | _psychic_ | kinda depends on hardware, though, no? |
| 21:16.23 | mindjuju | awesome sunsparc, thanx for the info |
| 21:16.36 | thebigdog | clear |
| 21:16.38 | mindjuju | it'll be on DL380 with dual xeon proc and 4g of ram |
| 21:16.50 | SunSparc | Yep, _psychic_ is correct, a lot depends on hardware. |
| 21:17.26 | _psychic_ | sounds plausible, but those things are kinda hard to bet on :/ |
| 21:17.26 | SunSparc | The important hardware is the nic and the connection to that interweb thing. :) Aside from that your processor looks fine. |
| 21:17.26 | mindjuju | sunsparc , _psychic_ , seems like i've seen the breakdown somewhere of hardware required to connections |
| 21:17.28 | SunSparc | and ran |
| 21:17.29 | mindjuju | have ya'll seen it? |
| 21:17.38 | mindjuju | oh, cool |
| 21:18.02 | mindjuju | yeah, it's colo at xmission, and it has dual giganic, but it's on a 100mb pipe |
| 21:18.53 | SunSparc | mindjuju: Do you know Jake Hilton? He would know more about most of this. |
| 21:19.04 | mindjuju | don't know Jake, is he on IRC? |
| 21:19.08 | PoeticIntensity | Jake is the flash guru of the state. |
| 21:19.12 | PoeticIntensity | nope. |
| 21:19.14 | PoeticIntensity | he's not.. |
| 21:19.15 | PoeticIntensity | sadly. |
| 21:19.27 | PoeticIntensity | he's too normal for us (or is it "we") geeks. |
| 21:20.39 | mgeary | i know Jake |
| 21:20.49 | PoeticIntensity | Jake++ |
| 21:21.51 | mindjuju | that would be cool, would love to know connections v hardware |
| 21:21.58 | mindjuju | even a ball park estimate would be perfect |
| 21:22.02 | mgeary | Jake *is* great, esp. at flv stuff |
| 21:22.48 | PoeticIntensity | Jake is the only flash-dev certified person in Utah and Idaho. :) |
| 21:23.48 | PoeticIntensity | he's gonna try to come in. |
| 21:23.51 | *** join/#uphpu fungus (n=olsonl@bromine.sosstaffing.com) |
| 21:23.51 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o fungus] by ChanServ |
| 21:24.20 | _psychic_ | PoeticIntensity: we have flash devs that are certified afaik.... |
| 21:24.30 | PoeticIntensity | dunno... |
| 21:24.42 | PoeticIntensity | Jake showed me the list on macromedia.com (like 4 years ago) |
| 21:24.49 | PoeticIntensity | and he was the only one listed in UT and ID. |
| 21:24.53 | PoeticIntensity | maybe more have come since. |
| 21:25.10 | _psychic_ | 4 years is plenty of time for a few guys from either of two states to certify, I'd wager. |
| 21:25.11 | _psychic_ | ;) |
| 21:25.14 | wps | Omniture is OCMD |
| 21:25.18 | PoeticIntensity | agreed. |
| 21:25.34 | mgeary | certification-- |
| 21:25.43 | PoeticIntensity | seemed to have helped Jake.. |
| 21:25.50 | _psychic_ | $employerPaidCertification++; |
| 21:26.04 | _psychic_ | it doesn't usually hurt |
| 21:26.06 | PoeticIntensity | awwwwww yeah! |
| 21:26.08 | mgeary | agreed |
| 21:26.12 | mgeary | doesn't hurt |
| 21:26.17 | mgeary | but MCSE's have ruined me on certification |
| 21:26.23 | mgeary | or is it MSCE |
| 21:26.27 | mgeary | anyway |
| 21:26.29 | PoeticIntensity | don't consider that a certification. |
| 21:26.34 | PoeticIntensity | it shouldn't be. |
| 21:26.48 | mindjuju | MCSE |
| 21:26.57 | mindjuju | Microsoft Certified Software Engineer |
| 21:27.04 | orsonj | certification similar to appendix (mostly useless, except for certain extreme situations) |
| 21:27.20 | *** join/#uphpu jakehilton (n=jake@208.53.47.147) |
| 21:27.24 | PoeticIntensity | Hiya, Jake. |
| 21:27.28 | mindjuju | Hi Jake |
| 21:27.29 | PoeticIntensity | thanks for comin' in. |
| 21:27.35 | jakehilton | sure thing |
| 21:27.44 | orsonj | ccr++ |
| 21:27.54 | PoeticIntensity | heh... |
| 21:28.02 | PoeticIntensity | I think someone had a question for you, Jake.... |
| 21:28.04 | mindjuju | jakehilton, i was wondering if you know where i can find the ratio of hardware required v connections on a red5 server |
| 21:28.05 | mgeary | howsit, jakehilton |
| 21:28.16 | mindjuju | i can't seem to find on OSFlash |
| 21:28.22 | jakehilton | hey mike.. nice to see you |
| 21:28.26 | mgeary | thanks |
| 21:28.30 | mgeary | glad you joined us |
| 21:28.34 | jakehilton | ha ha.. |
| 21:28.42 | mgeary | we were all singing your praises a minute ago |
| 21:28.46 | jakehilton | the borge eh? |
| 21:28.56 | jakehilton | sure you were.. just my timing eh? |
| 21:28.58 | jakehilton | ;) |
| 21:29.08 | mgeary | i refrained from telling everyone how i first knew you when you were a Director noob |
| 21:29.12 | PoeticIntensity | you have been assimilated. |
| 21:29.14 | mgeary | oh, oops |
| 21:29.15 | SunSparc | JAKE! |
| 21:29.20 | SunSparc | Welcome |
| 21:29.25 | jakehilton | not you too! |
| 21:29.30 | SunSparc | hehe |
| 21:29.40 | PoeticIntensity | this does seem to be "the place" to hang out. |
| 21:29.40 | jakehilton | I should have known |
| 21:29.55 | SunSparc | This is where the geeks hang out. |
| 21:29.57 | jakehilton | ok ok.. hardware for red5 vs connections.. |
| 21:30.34 | jakehilton | there are no "official" specs on hardware vs connection numbers.. in fact very little testing has been done on loading up a red5 box really |
| 21:30.51 | mindjuju | oh cool |
| 21:30.52 | jakehilton | I have it running on my little 700mhz 256 meg box |
| 21:30.56 | mindjuju | maybe i can give community feedback then |
| 21:30.58 | jakehilton | and it runs pretty good |
| 21:31.06 | jakehilton | what are you going to use it for? |
| 21:31.10 | jakehilton | VOD? live streaming? |
| 21:31.20 | mindjuju | i'm looking at at least 40+ connection streaming flv, streaming mp3 live |
| 21:31.21 | jakehilton | data server? for AMF type data? |
| 21:31.33 | mindjuju | on dl380 2 xeon 4g RAM colo at xmission |
| 21:32.09 | jakehilton | well.. you'll run into an issue with streaming in mp3 format .. seeing as the flash player doesn't encode to mp3.. you can use the Flash Media Encoder and that will encode in mp3 and stream it out |
| 21:32.19 | jakehilton | that hardware should be more than sufficient |
| 21:32.24 | mindjuju | oh cool |
| 21:32.40 | jakehilton | you could probably get at least 1000 out of that box |
| 21:32.51 | jakehilton | depending on bit rate and the like |
| 21:33.13 | mindjuju | cool, anything i should watch out for if running on win 2k3 box? |
| 21:33.20 | jakehilton | 2000 users streaming a 11khz stream uses about 22 meg.. ish |
| 21:33.41 | jakehilton | hmmmm.. it's windowz... that's what I'd watch out for ;) |
| 21:33.52 | Black_Chaos | viruses |
| 21:33.53 | SunSparc | lol, no kidding! |
| 21:34.06 | mindjuju | yeah, these guys tease me on win sysadmin all the time |
| 21:34.09 | Black_Chaos | trojans,worms |
| 21:34.12 | SunSparc | wind0ze-- |
| 21:34.12 | jakehilton | other than that... just competing programs/services |
| 21:34.31 | jakehilton | and I'd get rid of IIS unless you need it |
| 21:34.52 | mindjuju | it'll be dedicated multimedia server only streaming live broadcast mp3 and flv streaming |
| 21:35.02 | jakehilton | and ports ... red5 by default only will bind to 1935 but you can have it bind to more if need be |
| 21:35.08 | jakehilton | right |
| 21:35.34 | jakehilton | well without too much work you can install it and just use the sample apps installed |
| 21:35.42 | jakehilton | pretty easy |
| 21:35.45 | orsonj | Do I really have to make the website look good for 1/3 of the people who visit it? (who still use ie6) |
| 21:36.10 | mindjuju | hmm.. can i stream the flv or live mp3 on port 80? |
| 21:36.13 | SunSparc | orsonj: That depends on who is paying you. |
| 21:36.16 | mindjuju | many clients have serious firewall issues |
| 21:36.16 | orsonj | heh |
| 21:36.16 | jakehilton | 1/3 is a big number.. unless you only have 10 people |
| 21:36.30 | jakehilton | yes. 1935, 80 or 443.. |
| 21:36.35 | jakehilton | that's what the flash player perfers |
| 21:36.41 | jakehilton | you can really run it on any port you want |
| 21:36.41 | mindjuju | perfect |
| 21:36.56 | mindjuju | k, last question |
| 21:36.59 | jakehilton | but the flash player would need more information if you had a different port than those three |
| 21:37.19 | brasto | ~lart macromanagers |
| 21:37.19 | jbot | blasts macromanagers to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 21:37.33 | brasto | there you go cole_joplin |
| 21:37.38 | jakehilton | the file to edit for the port is in the conf dir > red5.properties |
| 21:37.40 | brasto | for your former boss... |
| 21:37.46 | mindjuju | i've got the operation all setup with a service right now, but need to have my own up or i'll bust my budget. so i think i'm mostly ok. What sites should i go to for more info & what books do you recommend ? |
| 21:38.26 | jakehilton | for red5?.. there really aren't any books |
| 21:38.42 | jakehilton | and osflash has really the best links out to websites about red5 |
| 21:38.58 | jakehilton | there is one other site... let me look it up real quick |
| 21:39.04 | SunSparc | mindjuju: You should join the osFlash community. |
| 21:39.06 | mindjuju | awesome, thx |
| 21:39.20 | brasto | jbot pingme is <action> ping $1 |
| 21:39.20 | jbot | brasto: okay |
| 21:39.25 | brasto | ~pingme |
| 21:39.26 | jbot | ACTION ping $1 |
| 21:39.32 | mindjuju | SunSparc, starting to shift all company assets to flash so would be good to be member of osFlash |
| 21:39.36 | brasto | well... that didn't work... |
| 21:39.45 | jakehilton | http://www.shocksites.com/forum/default.asp?CAT_ID=9 |
| 21:39.49 | jakehilton | that is a good forum |
| 21:39.58 | jakehilton | but you could also get on the red5 lists from osflash |
| 21:40.19 | mindjuju | jakehilton -- GREATLY appreciate your help |
| 21:40.27 | jakehilton | sure.. np |
| 21:40.44 | jakehilton | was just setting up a new red5 server myself just now |
| 21:41.05 | mindjuju | red5 looks awesome and excited to use it |
| 21:41.23 | jakehilton | it's come a long way |
| 21:41.31 | jakehilton | and it's pretty cool |
| 21:41.42 | jakehilton | not quite as easy to program for as the flash media server just yet |
| 21:41.53 | _psychic_ | are there even any official docs? |
| 21:42.05 | jakehilton | some... javadocs |
| 21:42.12 | jakehilton | let me dig up a link |
| 21:42.17 | _psychic_ | better than nothing I suppose |
| 21:42.23 | _psychic_ | manual != api docs, though (imho) |
| 21:42.26 | brasto | ~lart java |
| 21:42.26 | jbot | urinates on java |
| 21:42.48 | _psychic_ | ~lart no_cross_platform_threading_in_php |
| 21:42.48 | jbot | drops a baby grand on no_cross_platform_threading_in_php |
| 21:43.05 | jakehilton | actually.. this is a great staring point |
| 21:43.06 | jakehilton | http://osflash.org/red5/help |
| 21:43.24 | jakehilton | I'm not a java fan myself.. but the server is written in it.. |
| 21:43.27 | _psychic_ | yeah that helps |
| 21:43.39 | jakehilton | although you can write apps in python, js, groovy, java |
| 21:44.30 | brasto | jbot pingme is <action> ping [$1] |
| 21:44.30 | jbot | ...but pingme is already something else... |
| 21:44.37 | brasto | jbot forget pingme |
| 21:44.37 | jbot | brasto: i forgot pingme |
| 21:45.13 | brasto | jbot pingme is <action> ping [$1] |
| 21:45.14 | jbot | okay, brasto |
| 21:45.20 | brasto | ~pingme |
| 21:45.21 | jbot | ACTION ping [$1] |
| 21:45.30 | brasto | ! |
| 21:45.37 | brasto | jbot forget pingme |
| 21:45.37 | jbot | i forgot pingme, brasto |
| 21:45.48 | orsonj | do jbot pingme $1 is ... |
| 21:46.10 | brasto | orsonj, |
| 21:46.18 | brasto | would that make it so I have to say: |
| 21:46.23 | orsonj | wait, pingme means me. /me thinks |
| 21:46.24 | brasto | ~pingme brasto? |
| 21:46.28 | orsonj | yep |
| 21:47.05 | brasto | what I want to do is omit the brasto part, then anyone can use it... |
| 21:47.55 | brasto | jbot pingme is <action> ping [whoever requested the ping] |
| 21:47.55 | jbot | brasto: okay |
| 21:47.59 | brasto | is that ok? |
| 21:48.08 | brasto | I mean... is that possible orsonj? |
| 21:48.19 | orsonj | yes, I'm trying to remember the command |
| 21:48.27 | orsonj | try $user |
| 21:48.34 | orsonj | or $name |
| 21:48.36 | brasto | jbot forget pingme |
| 21:48.36 | jbot | i forgot pingme, brasto |
| 21:48.53 | brasto | jbot pingme is <action> ping $user |
| 21:48.54 | jbot | okay, brasto |
| 21:49.00 | brasto | ~pingme |
| 21:49.01 | jbot | ACTION ping n=brasto |
| 21:49.09 | brasto | well... that's close... |
| 21:49.27 | orsonj | ah, $nick |
| 21:49.31 | brasto | jbot forget pingme |
| 21:49.31 | jbot | i forgot pingme, brasto |
| 21:49.56 | brasto | jbot pingme is <action> ping $nick |
| 21:49.57 | jbot | okay, brasto |
| 21:50.02 | brasto | ~pingme |
| 21:50.03 | jbot | ACTION ping brasto |
| 21:50.10 | brasto | sweet! tx orsonj |
| 21:50.16 | _psychic_ | why do you need that? |
| 21:50.18 | brasto | is jbot documented anywhere? |
| 21:50.31 | jakehilton | ok gang.. nice to see a few of you guys.. drop me a line if you need anything else.. |
| 21:50.35 | orsonj | not that I know of. I use my irc logs |
| 21:50.36 | jakehilton | later all |
| 21:50.41 | mindjuju | thx again! |
| 21:50.43 | PoeticIntensity | thanks, jakehilton |
| 21:50.46 | PoeticIntensity | adios! |
| 21:50.46 | jakehilton | yup |
| 21:50.46 | brasto | _psychic_ - once in a while I want to see if my "ahem" sound is working when someone pings me |
| 21:50.47 | orsonj | later jakehilton |
| 21:50.56 | *** part/#uphpu jakehilton (n=jake@208.53.47.147) |
| 21:56.25 | brasto | orsonj, so if you keep irc logs in unix, you can grep ibot /path/to/log | grep action |
| 21:56.32 | brasto | then find applicable logs? |
| 21:56.57 | brasto | s/logs/log entries/ |
| 21:59.46 | mindjuju | i can't believe it. I have a huge sign on my door that says IM or email me, i don't want to talk to you right now (i've got several things that have to be finished by Friday and need all the time i can get) -- and i still have people just strolling in wanting to yap and stuff |
| 22:00.12 | Black_Chaos | lock the door |
| 22:00.25 | mindjuju | that's the only thing i don't have is a lock, i'm going to PO for one |
| 22:00.31 | mindjuju | that's an awesome idea black_chaos |
| 22:00.49 | mindjuju | a lock with a nice vid camera to see who the heck is knocking |
| 22:01.26 | *** join/#uphpu Utah_Dave (n=boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 22:01.26 | *** mode/#UPHPU [+o Utah_Dave] by ChanServ |
| 22:03.17 | brasto | ~give mindjuju a lock |
| 22:03.17 | jbot | ACTION gives a lock to mindjuju |
| 22:04.13 | timinator | wps: ping |
| 22:04.38 | wps | eh? |
| 22:05.58 | brasto | mindjuju - put a large cinder block in front of the door |
| 22:06.10 | PoeticIntensity | LOL |
| 22:06.14 | PoeticIntensity | that's evil, bradym |
| 22:06.16 | PoeticIntensity | er... brasto |
| 22:06.19 | PoeticIntensity | darn auto-complete. |
| 22:06.44 | mindjuju | hey, that reminds me |
| 22:06.50 | mindjuju | bradym has that book come in yet? |
| 22:07.05 | bradym | yeah, got here yesterday |
| 22:07.11 | mindjuju | awesome |
| 22:07.12 | bradym | thanks! :) |
| 22:07.34 | brasto | mindjuju - just a reminder that I'll happily pick up the 80%-of-a-computer I won at the last meeting. |
| 22:07.59 | mindjuju | 80% ? |
| 22:08.26 | brasto | well, it's missing a hard drive, right? |
| 22:08.32 | mindjuju | oh, gotcha |
| 22:08.37 | mindjuju | yeah, missing hdd and ram |
| 22:09.42 | brasto | see y'all laterz |
| 22:09.46 | *** part/#uphpu brasto (n=brasto@out.lnxi.com) |
| 22:10.37 | influx^^ | None of you live downtown, do you? |
| 22:10.53 | mindjuju | don't |
| 22:11.16 | influx^^ | K. |
| 22:25.04 | PoeticIntensity | beandog lives downtown. |
| 22:26.09 | influx^^ | beandog will purchase tamales from me then. |
| 22:26.15 | influx^^ | *eyes of fuego* |
| 22:26.37 | beandog | *tears of sasparella* |
| 22:26.58 | influx^^ | heh |
| 22:27.22 | cole_joplin | ping mgeary |
| 22:27.28 | *** part/#uphpu cole_joplin (n=cjoplin@gw.helius.com) |
| 22:27.43 | *** join/#uphpu cole_joplin (n=cjoplin@gw.helius.com) |
| 22:29.42 | cole_joplin | ping mgeary |
| 22:32.22 | mgeary | ping |
| 22:32.24 | mgeary | pong |
| 22:32.33 | mgeary | cole_joplin: what's up? |
| 22:32.51 | cole_joplin | trying IM |
| 22:58.35 | beandog | http://tinyurl.com/yv5gee |
| 22:58.39 | beandog | that is awesomely funny |
| 22:59.22 | mindjuju | i love the consumerist |
| 22:59.41 | beandog | seriously |
| 22:59.45 | beandog | its always entertaining |
| 23:04.52 | mindjuju | beandog, i'm becoming concerned about the "authority" that flight attendants have assumed since 9/11. especially in line with the attendant who kicked mom off with crying baby, others that insist on children be drugged for flight, etc |
| 23:05.46 | cycokilr | a little power can go a long way (in their heads anyway) |
| 23:05.51 | herlo | dude, onlinedesktop totally rocks in F8 |
| 23:05.59 | beandog | they cant even roll out the food without disabling someones elbow, what makes them think theyre experts in international air laws |
| 23:06.17 | beandog | I think part of it though is just the fear factor |
| 23:06.29 | beandog | oh my zoomies, hes got an electronic device!@#! bomb! |
| 23:06.43 | cycokilr | hey, we're in a heightened state of security gentlemen.. |
| 23:07.35 | beandog | airport security is a joke |
| 23:07.51 | herlo | beandog: airport security is an oxymoron |
| 23:08.01 | herlo | beandog: its the *appearance* of security |
| 23:08.09 | herlo | beandog: to make people *feel* safe |
| 23:08.10 | beandog | even that is pretty laughable though |
| 23:08.25 | herlo | none of what they do actually guarantees any more security than before... |
| 23:08.31 | herlo | at least not what we go thorugh |
| 23:08.43 | mindjuju | except taking off shoes to see if there is a bomb |
| 23:08.45 | cycokilr | wow did somebody let lewis black in here? |
| 23:08.53 | Utah_Dave | herlo: I've heard of onlinedesktop. What is it exactly? |
| 23:08.57 | beandog | what we need is planes like in the third element |
| 23:09.00 | beandog | just put everyone to sleep |
| 23:09.11 | mindjuju | love 5th element |
| 23:09.29 | timinator | 5th element ++ |
| 23:09.32 | herlo | Utah_Dave: its kind of like spotlight in OSX but more webish... |
| 23:09.34 | timinator | I'm out.... later guys |
| 23:09.37 | mindjuju | just get me those stones! |
| 23:10.15 | beandog | mindjuju, you forgot about the fashion police |
| 23:10.52 | mindjuju | yeah? |
| 23:12.32 | beandog | buh |
| 23:12.39 | beandog | you havent read those on the consumerist? |
| 23:12.46 | mindjuju | haven't |
| 23:12.49 | mindjuju | what up? |
| 23:12.53 | beandog | how they kick people off because their clothes are tacky |
| 23:13.00 | beandog | I think it was southwest |
| 23:13.04 | mindjuju | oh, i heard something about a mini skirt |
| 23:13.21 | mindjuju | but that was on TV or something |
| 23:13.48 | beandog | http://consumerist.com/search/southwest/ |
| 23:13.49 | beandog | yah |
| 23:13.53 | mindjuju | i think i'm going to buy this and set it up outside my office so i know when somebody is about to open the door |
| 23:13.53 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/716-NEW-WIRED-CAR-REAR-VIEW-REVERSING-CCTV-CAMERA_W0QQitemZ300158393253QQihZ020QQcategoryZ121835QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:13.56 | beandog | http://consumerist.com/consumer/airlines/southwest-airlines-thinks-your-outfit-is-inappropriate-296686.php |
| 23:14.13 | herlo | ~lart beandog for not using tinyurl |
| 23:14.13 | jbot | gives beandog a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" for not using tinyurl |
| 23:14.30 | mindjuju | i love huge URLs |
| 23:14.39 | beandog | mindjuju, wow is that just plug n play? |
| 23:14.44 | mindjuju | think so |
| 23:14.54 | mindjuju | just need to find a way to wire it to my video card |
| 23:14.55 | beandog | I want one! |
| 23:15.00 | beandog | buy it and tell me what happens |
| 23:15.02 | mindjuju | then i can see who approaches MY DOMAIN |
| 23:15.08 | beandog | :D |
| 23:15.17 | beandog | US $0.99 Make no payments for 3 months |
| 23:15.26 | herlo | ~lart mindjuju for not using tinyurl |
| 23:15.26 | jbot | beats mindjuju senseless with a 50lb Unix manual for not using tinyurl |
| 23:15.35 | herlo | ~tinyurl mindjuju |
| 23:15.50 | mindjuju | ~lart herlo and his OCD on short URLs |
| 23:15.50 | jbot | nabs the moon and broadsides herlo and his OCD on short URLs with the sea of tranquility |
| 23:16.05 | beandog | mindjuju, thatd be a great idea |
| 23:16.11 | beandog | I hate sales persons knocking on my door |
| 23:16.12 | herlo | jbot: tinyurl $1 is <action> installs the firefox tinyurl plugin on $1 |
| 23:16.12 | jbot | herlo: okay |
| 23:16.17 | herlo | ~tinyurl mindjuju |
| 23:16.18 | jbot | ACTION installs the firefox tinyurl plugin on mindjuju |
| 23:16.40 | mindjuju | herlo, i know what tinyurl is, but its such a bother to get the URL, setup tiny, etc |
| 23:16.44 | herlo | mindjuju: you just don't know how annoying it is to have to copy and paste a link that should be clickable |
| 23:17.04 | mindjuju | huh? |
| 23:17.10 | herlo | mindjuju: use the plugin for firefox, you can right-click and voila, you have a tinyurl right in your clipboard |
| 23:17.20 | mindjuju | does your IM break the URL if too long? |
| 23:17.23 | herlo | mindjuju: it can |
| 23:17.37 | mindjuju | but has it? |
| 23:17.37 | herlo | because its well over 80 chars |
| 23:17.41 | herlo | it just did |
| 23:18.23 | mindjuju | i think i'd get a different IRC client instead of asking everybody to comply with your needs |
| 23:18.30 | beandog | silly IM |
| 23:19.14 | mindjuju | beandog, i love the one about the shirt |
| 23:19.35 | mindjuju | they used to have stuff like that when i was in Jr. High, and i don't remember the principal getting mad |
| 23:19.46 | mindjuju | think the shirt was Big Johnson's |
| 23:20.43 | beandog | yah |
| 23:20.44 | beandog | I remember those |
| 23:20.55 | beandog | when everyone wore the surfer t-shirts |
| 23:21.03 | mindjuju | yup, exactly |
| 23:21.13 | beandog | in Georgia, at least, where nobody in their right mind would go surfing in the Atlantic, which is a massive sea of goo and dead jellyfish. |
| 23:21.28 | mindjuju | i mean, as the parent of a small child, i would have just coordinated with my wife to skirt my son around the person so that he didn't see the shirt |
| 23:22.03 | beandog | heh |
| 23:22.18 | beandog | I wonder if I can still find some of those shirts on ebay |
| 23:23.36 | mindjuju | oh wow, they do and they are worse than i remember! |
| 23:23.43 | mindjuju | http://cgi.ebay.com/BIG-JOHNSON-T-Shirt-Cable-Guy-Size-Large_W0QQitemZ230180161605QQihZ013QQcategoryZ57990QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting |
| 23:24.04 | mindjuju | uh, as you might think NSFW |
| 23:24.13 | mindjuju | since it is a big johnson shirt |
| 23:25.17 | mindjuju | a guy i know in Jr high had this one, but wihtout the big picture in color, http://cgi.ebay.com/BIG-JOHNSON-T-Shirt-BAR-and-CASINO-Size-X-Large_W0QQitemZ230180161594QQihZ013QQcategoryZ57990QQtcZphotoQQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 23:25.36 | mindjuju | i wonder if the principal didn't get it? maybe that's why they didn't say something |
| 23:27.17 | beandog | Im sure they got it |
| 23:27.20 | beandog | I remember seeing them all the time |
| 23:27.26 | beandog | I guess they figured its better to just ignore them |
| 23:27.28 | beandog | I know all the kids did. |
| 23:27.49 | mindjuju | too funny |
| 23:32.22 | beandog | now I do remember |
| 23:32.29 | beandog | they would make kids turn around their Bart Simpson t-shirts |
| 23:32.35 | beandog | er, turn inside out |
| 23:32.40 | beandog | which of course, made people wear them more. |
| 23:32.56 | mindjuju | yeah, i remember those |
| 23:33.27 | beandog | mindjuju, how old are you anyway? |
| 23:33.31 | mindjuju | 35 |
| 23:33.36 | beandog | the Invincibles? |
| 23:34.06 | mindjuju | pixar movie |
| 23:34.14 | beandog | oh |
| 23:34.29 | Black_Chaos | The Incredibles? |
| 23:34.41 | mindjuju | oh yeah, sorry, incredibles |
| 23:34.44 | beandog | heh |
| 23:34.52 | beandog | I always wanted a levi's jean jacket |
| 23:35.07 | mindjuju | i actually had a jeans jacket when I was a soph in HS |
| 23:35.07 | beandog | maybe Ill go buy one and make up for all those youthful years of misery |
| 23:35.14 | mindjuju | bleached it white |
| 23:35.16 | *** join/#uphpu mikesmullin_ (i=user@63.76.119.176) |
| 23:35.19 | mindjuju | gave it some worn holes |
| 23:35.32 | beandog | do you remember jams? now those were cool. |
| 23:35.37 | mindjuju | of course |
| 23:35.45 | mindjuju | jams were cool |
| 23:35.56 | beandog | of course they usually wore out pretty fast |
| 23:36.23 | mindjuju | what were those shirts called that changed colors as you got hotter |
| 23:36.31 | mindjuju | hypercolor! |
| 23:36.41 | dataw0lf | sweat |
| 23:36.47 | fungus | http://dga.livejournal.com/30314.html |
| 23:36.57 | mindjuju | http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&_trksid=m37&satitle=hypercolor+shirt&category0= |
| 23:37.18 | mindjuju | and remember those shirts that were made for blacklight |
| 23:37.34 | mindjuju | and all the blacklight posters @ spencer's |
| 23:37.37 | dataw0lf | stained |
| 23:38.11 | beandog | oh uh |
| 23:38.16 | beandog | I cant remember |
| 23:38.23 | mindjuju | can't remember? |
| 23:38.26 | beandog | tie dye? |
| 23:38.33 | beandog | that doesnt seem right |
| 23:38.51 | mindjuju | i don't remember tie dye coming in until the 90's |
| 23:38.59 | beandog | oh |
| 23:39.02 | beandog | I remember now |
| 23:39.05 | beandog | those mood shirts or whatever |
| 23:39.06 | mindjuju | but remember, it was bleached jeans that lead to tie dye |
| 23:39.26 | beandog | Im sure everyone who wore them now has cancer |
| 23:39.32 | mindjuju | cause people were starting to rubberband their jeans and then bleach to get weird patterns |
| 23:39.50 | beandog | bleached jeans ... oh man |
| 23:39.58 | beandog | that was a horrible idea from the start |
| 23:40.54 | mindjuju | ah the 80's |
| 23:41.02 | mindjuju | was there ever anything better? |
| 23:41.06 | mindjuju | i mean, really? |
| 23:41.07 | beandog | nope |
| 23:41.09 | dataw0lf | yea, every decade ever |
| 23:41.13 | beandog | we should have just stopped there |
| 23:41.26 | mindjuju | dataw0lf just sad he missed the 80's |
| 23:41.30 | beandog | thats when all the really cool movies came out |
| 23:41.34 | beandog | heh |
| 23:41.36 | mindjuju | back to the future |
| 23:41.38 | beandog | weird science |
| 23:41.40 | dataw0lf | I didn't miss the 80s |
| 23:41.47 | beandog | better off dead |
| 23:41.52 | beandog | pretty in pink |
| 23:41.52 | mindjuju | love weird scinence |
| 23:41.54 | fungus | http://xkcd.com/327/ |
| 23:41.54 | dataw0lf | for example, I noticed the catastrophic meteoric rise of the drug war, crime, consumerism, etc |
| 23:41.56 | mindjuju | science i mean |
| 23:42.16 | beandog | dataw0lf, its all about the neon hair beads |
| 23:42.30 | mindjuju | fungus, love the cartoon |
| 23:44.02 | mindjuju | metallica, iron madien, bill and ted excellent adventure |
| 23:44.32 | mindjuju | 8bit nintendo hawtness |
| 23:44.34 | dataw0lf | maiden* |
| 23:44.58 | mindjuju | all the sierra SCUMM games |
| 23:45.06 | mindjuju | leisure suit larry |
| 23:45.35 | beandog | oh man |
| 23:45.39 | beandog | Ive got all the sierra games at home |
| 23:45.45 | beandog | forget Sierra, its all about Lucas Arts! |
| 23:45.52 | beandog | well, no, dont forget Sierra... classic games rawk |
| 23:45.58 | beandog | Tie Fighter |
| 23:46.04 | fungus | All my Sierra games are still on 5.25" disks. :( |
| 23:46.05 | beandog | Monkey Island 2 |
| 23:46.12 | beandog | yah? They sell em all on CD now |
| 23:46.20 | beandog | theres a kings quest, police quest, and space quest compliation out |
| 23:46.37 | beandog | those games were hard, too. |
| 23:46.53 | beandog | my favorites are the old AD&D games |
| 23:46.59 | mindjuju | monkey island was awesome |
| 23:47.07 | fungus | I really like the Castle of Dr. Brain series. |
| 23:47.15 | mindjuju | i never played that one |
| 23:47.25 | mindjuju | is that the one with all the puzzles ? |
| 23:47.44 | fungus | yeah. Kind of like a very early version of Myst. |
| 23:47.44 | beandog | yah |
| 23:47.47 | beandog | that ones not too hard |
| 23:47.49 | beandog | Myst is painful. |
| 23:47.57 | mindjuju | i remember that one fungus, but never played |
| 23:48.02 | mindjuju | did ya'll ever play Full Throttle? |
| 23:48.10 | mindjuju | motorcycle SCUMM game? |
| 23:48.23 | fungus | No, can't remember playing that one. |
| 23:48.46 | mindjuju | way fun game |
| 23:48.58 | fungus | I played a lot of side scrollers and such. |
| 23:49.05 | mindjuju | do ya'll remember "The Day After" |
| 23:49.10 | fungus | Commander Keen, Duke Nukem, etc. |
| 23:49.27 | mindjuju | yup, remember keen and duke nukem |
| 23:49.32 | mindjuju | when duke was side scroll |
| 23:50.54 | fungus | dude, Thundercats movie! http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/thundercats_season_one_volume_one/news/1678766/ |
| 23:51.17 | mindjuju | heh, i remember thundercats |
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| 23:54.11 | dataw0lf | yea, too bad it's CGI, fungus |
| 23:54.15 | dataw0lf | that's gay |
| 23:54.22 | dataw0lf | they should've done live action like Transformers. |
| 23:54.55 | mindjuju | hmm, i'm not so sure about that. Live Action thundercats, people wil lthink they're watching Andrew Lloyd webber |
| 23:55.05 | fungus | lol |
| 23:55.18 | dataw0lf | yea, but CGI, unless it's Beowulf status, will be gay |
| 23:55.24 | dataw0lf | way gayer than live action |
| 23:55.30 | dataw0lf | look at what they did to TMNT |
| 23:55.47 | dataw0lf | plus, the 'director' was just an art director on a couple video games |
| 23:55.58 | dataw0lf | you think he's going to get the financial backing it would take to make a good CGI flick? |
| 23:56.01 | dataw0lf | Yea. Right. |
| 23:56.15 | mgeary | hey, in CSS background images, is there a way i can have an image be 30 pixels from the right edge? |
| 23:56.20 | dataw0lf | This comment sums it up: "THUNDER, THUNDER, THUNDER, THUNDER, WHACK!" |
| 23:56.41 | fungus | lol, love rottentomatoes. |
| 23:56.47 | mindjuju | hmmm... i'm not sure mgeary |
| 23:57.02 | mindjuju | i know what you're saying, let me try to fling some code around |
| 23:58.47 | dataw0lf | mgeary: background-position? |
| 23:59.00 | dataw0lf | background-position: 30px 0; |
| 23:59.05 | dataw0lf | try that |