| 00:14.28 | mindjuju | any flash programmers in the house? |
| 00:20.58 | macnewbold | heavens no |
| 00:21.10 | macnewbold | but I know a good one, if you need to hire him to do some work for you |
| 00:26.51 | mindjuju | i was looking more for some info like target size for a 30 sec clip and stuff like that |
| 00:26.56 | mindjuju | i'll keep googling it |
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| 00:33.16 | bigdog_ut | evenin' all |
| 00:34.49 | mindjuju | yo bigdog, sup? |
| 00:34.57 | bigdog_ut | not much y tu? |
| 00:35.12 | mindjuju | asi asi |
| 00:35.40 | bigdog_ut | que bueno no, regrese' a mi casa para comer |
| 00:50.20 | mindjuju | vas a volver depues a trabajo o te vas a trabajar en casa? |
| 01:01.47 | bigdog_ut | estoy en mi casa |
| 01:02.25 | bigdog_ut | pero esta noche es el UFC y lo voy a mirar |
| 01:02.59 | mindjuju | nunca a visto UFC |
| 01:03.03 | mindjuju | que es? |
| 01:03.03 | bigdog_ut | y despues eso voy a trabajar mucho |
| 01:03.16 | bigdog_ut | el ultimo fighter |
| 01:03.18 | mindjuju | asi es la vida, no? |
| 01:03.29 | bigdog_ut | asi es |
| 02:00.24 | mindjuju | bigdog, do you do flash? |
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| 02:32.47 | diskotec|w | [-]: I'm wanting to download wxPython for my newly installed ubuntu box (old hardware) but the only choices are for Fedora, Red Hat and Mandrake. Which one should I get? |
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| 03:23.39 | mindjuju | don't know a whole lot about linux, but i have heard fedora is having problems |
| 03:24.03 | mindjuju | i also know that mandrake is suppose to be one of the easiest to use partly because of drive compatibility |
| 03:24.22 | mindjuju | i have a dual boot of mandrake at home, but it is an older install |
| 03:24.26 | mindjuju | hope that helps |
| 03:43.25 | diskotec|w | I used to have Fedora installed but I'm giving ubuntu a try. I've never tried mandrake before...maybe i'll give that a go one of these days. |
| 03:45.12 | diskotec|w | thanks for the input. I'll wait for dw on the wxPython question though. simply because the documentation talks about it not being in a stable release for debian based systems |
| 04:02.33 | mindjuju | yeah, dw is the pro with that stuff |
| 04:20.05 | mindjuju | anybody here? |
| 04:20.09 | bigdog_ut | y |
| 04:20.44 | mindjuju | hey, you know any sites with flash modules in 'em? i need some inspiration to spice mine up |
| 04:21.20 | bigdog_ut | no not sure...i hate flash |
| 04:21.45 | mindjuju | yeah, you and me both, but the boss gets what the boss really wants |
| 04:22.17 | mindjuju | i'm more of a middle/backend guy, though i'm learning the graphic design of the web, though my stuff don't look anything near wps stuff |
| 04:22.36 | mindjuju | maybe i should take some classes? |
| 04:22.48 | bigdog_ut | sure if you want to be a flash guy |
| 04:23.04 | mindjuju | well, not so much to be a flash guy, but to be a well rounded guy |
| 04:23.24 | bigdog_ut | that is where i make the divide...im not a graphics guy |
| 04:24.41 | mindjuju | yeah, but you can make that call cause your the SQL guru, i'm not to guru level yet. i'm like sql squirt, know a bit, have tons to study yet |
| 04:24.47 | mindjuju | how long you been doing sql anyways? |
| 04:25.00 | bigdog_ut | 8 yrs |
| 04:25.20 | mindjuju | figures |
| 04:26.28 | bigdog_ut | but i still have tons to learn too |
| 04:26.35 | bigdog_ut | i just hate graphics stuff |
| 04:28.31 | mindjuju | yup. even with css, my graphics design looks like a brick with a pretty ribbon on it |
| 04:56.51 | bigdog_ut | nice |
| 05:46.33 | diskotec|w | mindjuju: try screamifyoucan.com thats not even close to a business theme you'd have to do but its flash |
| 05:46.55 | diskotec|w | oh and neostream.com |
| 05:47.03 | diskotec|w | i like neostream |
| 05:50.18 | diskotec|w | if you want to see stupid flash go to snarg.net lol...man there is no point to that site...at least I think it's flash |
| 13:44.02 | diskotec|w | maybe i'll download it finally.... http://opera.com/free/ |
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| 14:10.02 | [-] | I've been using links more and more lately. |
| 14:27.51 | diskotec|w | [-]: after installing ubuntu, there is an icon telling me there are 102 updates. would you install all of them? |
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| 14:30.19 | wps | Interesting |
| 14:30.22 | wps | Opera now free |
| 14:30.27 | wps | it's about time they saw the light |
| 14:30.35 | wps | why on earth would anyone pay for a browser? |
| 14:30.51 | wps | we'll, let me rephrase that |
| 14:30.59 | diskotec|w | heh....dataw0lf just retched all over Opera a few minutes ago |
| 14:31.05 | wps | it kind of sounds like it cared about the browser |
| 14:31.08 | wps | and I don't |
| 14:31.18 | wps | I just meant that I am surprised that it took them this long to see the light |
| 14:31.44 | wps | Opera is better than MSIE, but I would put Safari, Camino, Mozilla, and Firefox way ahead of it |
| 14:32.48 | [-] | diskotec|w: yes |
| 14:32.54 | [-] | (to installing the updates) |
| 14:32.59 | [-] | which release did you install? |
| 14:34.47 | diskotec|w | version 5.04 |
| 14:34.52 | diskotec|w | hoary |
| 14:34.54 | [-] | yeah, install all updates |
| 14:35.06 | diskotec|w | ok. :) |
| 14:35.19 | [-] | and in about two weeks you'll want to do a dist-upgrade |
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| 14:35.35 | diskotec|w | new version eh? |
| 14:35.39 | diskotec|w | or updated anyway |
| 14:35.44 | [-] | Yeah, new version. |
| 14:35.46 | [-] | Breezy |
| 14:35.47 | [-] | 5.10 |
| 14:36.00 | [-] | (200)5.10(October) |
| 14:36.05 | [-] | so Hoary is |
| 14:36.14 | [-] | (200)5.04(April) |
| 14:37.23 | diskotec|w | ok...so that is October 5th? |
| 14:39.10 | wps | interesting |
| 14:39.17 | wps | Google Wifi is real |
| 14:39.21 | wps | http://wifi.google.com/faq.html |
| 14:39.31 | wps | looks like they're starting a beta test in San Fran |
| 15:03.07 | wps | anyone have experience with DVRs and could recommend one? |
| 15:04.53 | macnewbold | no way |
| 15:05.08 | mindjuju | not dvr, but bit torrent + server with big hdd + http://shop.iodata.com/shopping/products.php?cat=HNP&sc=AVEL&pId=AVLP2%2FDVDLA == "instant mega happy" |
| 15:05.58 | mindjuju | it plays good video formats like xvid, divx, etc, mp3, displays pics in a slide show |
| 15:06.15 | mindjuju | i'm trying to get my wife to agree this is a Christmas purchase and buy it for me |
| 15:08.09 | diskotec|w | can't mythTV do all that as well? |
| 15:09.18 | mindjuju | yeah, but by the time you get the remote and have a pretty computer next to your tv with the pretty case |
| 15:09.22 | mindjuju | your past the budget |
| 15:09.30 | diskotec|w | hehe |
| 15:11.11 | mindjuju | course though, i think it is like $70 for the remote for mytv (and remote controler), leaving $180 (if you don't care for pretty computer) and that money could buy extra hdd space for more shows.... |
| 15:11.28 | mindjuju | hmmm... more shows... (drool, sloober sloober, drool) |
| 15:11.47 | diskotec|w | hehe |
| 15:11.57 | mindjuju | i just want my dvds to go away, that way my boy doesn't scratch them and they aren't an eye sore |
| 15:12.19 | diskotec|w | i don't care about pretty computers....it's whats on the inside that counts...I hate the boxes with all the lights and such |
| 15:16.17 | diskotec|w | last time i shopped for a case, my wife wanted me to buy one that had the neon thing going on and with flashing lights on the outside...I thought it was a waste. I ended up buying a case that had a few lights simply because of the low price, power supply and air circulation options. |
| 15:18.09 | diskotec|w | heh...that is a dilema |
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| 15:52.26 | beandog | DVRs? |
| 15:52.29 | beandog | You mean PVR? |
| 15:52.36 | beandog | Get the ConvertX Plextor if youre gonna use MythTV |
| 15:52.43 | beandog | hardware encoding to mpeg1,2,4 |
| 15:58.28 | mindjuju | ~froogle ConvertX Plextor |
| 15:58.44 | mindjuju | dang! i'll have to do it me self! |
| 15:58.56 | RyanE_ | my mythTV remote cost $13 |
| 15:59.05 | RyanE_ | of course, I had the parts to build the receiver on-hand. :) |
| 16:00.12 | mindjuju | which model where you thinking beandog? |
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| 16:01.32 | beandog | uh |
| 16:01.45 | beandog | PX-TV402U |
| 16:01.48 | beandog | the $200 one |
| 16:02.06 | beandog | Its nice. |
| 16:02.12 | beandog | I bought mine when they first announced the linux drivers. |
| 16:02.44 | beandog | If youre going to get a PCI card though, get the LifeView Flyvideo 3000 |
| 16:02.51 | beandog | Its the only low-end card that records in stereo instead of mono. |
| 16:03.02 | beandog | and the picture is incredibly sharp. |
| 16:03.12 | beandog | Get one with a Philips tuner, not the WinTV crapola. |
| 16:03.42 | mindjuju | seems like internal was best when working with video, is that still the case? |
| 16:03.49 | beandog | not really |
| 16:03.52 | beandog | The Plextor uses USB2. |
| 16:03.59 | beandog | Well, let me rephrase that. |
| 16:04.08 | beandog | The Plextor is the ONLY external video device that will work with linux. |
| 16:04.44 | beandog | None of the other USB ones work |
| 16:05.33 | beandog | The only problem with the Plextor is its either MythTV or the highway, since no other apps support it right now. |
| 16:05.50 | beandog | If you get a PCI tuner card, you can still use something like Freevo or MPlayer to record your TV. |
| 16:06.35 | mindjuju | good thing i asked, last time i did video capture it was on a AMD k6 - 2 300 with an eye popping all banks maxed 512 ram |
| 16:07.11 | beandog | Well even on a low end machine you can get the CPU usage down low, depending on your recording settings. |
| 16:07.23 | beandog | For example, record at 320x240 will really cut it down a lot. |
| 16:07.36 | beandog | Then, if you record to mpeg2 instead of mpeg4 that's really gonna bring it down too. |
| 16:07.38 | mindjuju | I've got beefier now, but wasn meaning to say it was a long while ago |
| 16:07.43 | beandog | Oh, right. :) |
| 16:08.00 | beandog | Or you can get a hardware encoder and use 0% cpu. :) |
| 16:08.38 | beandog | The WinTv 250/350 are good if you want MPEG2 hw encoding. |
| 16:08.51 | beandog | But those are about $150, $250. |
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| 16:26.40 | mindjuju | brb |
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| 17:30.34 | RyanE | UPHPU meeting tonight? Topic? |
| 17:31.15 | macnewbold | not tonight... next Thursday, the 29th - Jeff Barr from Amazon |
| 17:31.28 | macnewbold | (Meetings have changed from 3rd tuesday to 3rd Thursday) |
| 17:31.42 | macnewbold | (and this month, it's 4th thursday instead, because we've got a special guest flying in) |
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| 17:34.04 | RyanE | macnewbold: thx. |
| 17:35.50 | macnewbold | no prob, RyanE |
| 17:35.59 | macnewbold | sorry to disappoint you with a change of plans |
| 17:36.17 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> volunteers sought to man booth at GUBUG install fest, 24 Sep - Next UPHPU Meeting: Thurs. Sept 27 @ 7pm - Jeff Barr from Amazon |
| 17:36.49 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> Volunteers welcome for GUBUG BSD install fest, Sat 24 Sep 2pm - Next UPHPU Meeting: Thurs. Sept 27 @ 7pm - Jeff Barr from Amazon |
| 17:38.08 | RyanE | no problem. I just have it set in my Palm that it was tonight, wanted to make sure before I show up to a locked room (not that confirming has stopped *that* before). ;) |
| 17:38.48 | RyanE | macnewbold: The topic is *wrong*... the 27th is Tuesday... |
| 17:39.15 | RyanE | should be the 29th, or the 27th? |
| 17:40.14 | jsmith | Woo hoo! I might actually be able to make it to a meeting now. |
| 17:51.03 | *** topic/#uphpu by macnewbold -> Volunteers welcome for GUBUG BSD install fest, Sat 24 Sep 2pm - Next UPHPU Meeting: Thurs. Sept 29 @ 7pm - Jeff Barr from Amazon |
| 17:51.09 | macnewbold | sorry, yes thurs 29th |
| 17:51.11 | macnewbold | typod |
| 17:51.16 | macnewbold | thanks RyanE |
| 17:51.31 | macnewbold | jsmith: we hope you can come! |
| 18:19.56 | mindjuju | i'm hoping somebody will bring some huge boxing gloves, maybe we could have a title bout at this next meeting |
| 18:26.10 | macnewbold | what title is that? |
| 18:47.18 | mindjuju | the "my kung fu is the best" title |
| 18:47.40 | mindjuju | anybody flash programmers in the house? |
| 18:53.03 | mindjuju | well, here's my question, i built a flash ad. it's 34 seconds and is 463kb. is that size too big, should i look to trim? |
| 19:07.11 | macnewbold | that's almost 14KB/sec which is about 120Kbps - a little over double a 56K modem |
| 19:07.25 | macnewbold | so a modem user would take over a minute to download your 34 sec. clip |
| 19:08.34 | mindjuju | hmmm |
| 19:21.22 | macnewbold | brb |
| 19:21.59 | beandog | is there a function that will display what line # the script is on? |
| 19:24.03 | beandog | ah sweet |
| 19:24.06 | beandog | trigger_error |
| 19:24.08 | beandog | gotta love php |
| 19:25.19 | dataw0lf | heh |
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| 19:41.55 | macnewbold | ahhhhh |
| 19:42.00 | macnewbold | 1.5GB ram |
| 19:42.07 | macnewbold | nice |
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| 19:48.53 | mindjuju | i've got icons for word documents, etc, but does anybody know what a URL/web page icon should look like? i don't think i've seen one |
| 19:54.11 | macnewbold | it's a blue lowercase "e" |
| 19:54.37 | macnewbold | ~tell mindjuju it's a blue lowercase "e" |
| 19:55.00 | mindjuju | i thought that was the icon for internet explorer? |
| 19:58.44 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 19:58.58 | macnewbold | yeah, it is, but it uses a page with a blue "e" for the html/web page icon |
| 19:59.03 | macnewbold | and even some images that it can open |
| 19:59.14 | macnewbold | I was just messin with ya |
| 19:59.24 | macnewbold | you can google for file types or file type icons |
| 19:59.33 | mindjuju | sure, sure, sounds like a freudian slip to me!!! |
| 19:59.35 | macnewbold | and try google images for "html OR web icon" |
| 19:59.47 | mindjuju | Hey everybody, Mac is running Win X servers at his place! |
| 19:59.54 | macnewbold | ~slap mindjuju |
| 19:59.55 | jbot | ACTION slaps mindjuju, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 20:00.02 | macnewbold | that's an insult and half |
| 20:00.08 | macnewbold | ~melvin mindjuju |
| 20:00.10 | jbot | ACTION pulls mindjuju underwear up to the ceiling...and smiles |
| 20:00.16 | macnewbold | ~fleas mindjuju |
| 20:00.18 | jbot | mindjuju, may the fleas of a thousand camels infest the hair in your dark sensitive areas forever! |
| 20:00.30 | mindjuju | laughing too hard to fight back |
| 20:00.35 | macnewbold | aw jea |
| 20:00.37 | mindjuju | wow, must have hit a real nerve there! |
| 20:00.40 | macnewbold | hehe |
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| 23:56.01 | bigdog_ut | http://www.subservientchicken.com/ |
| 23:56.06 | bigdog_ut | have fun guys |