| 00:00.05 | dataw0lf | hey! that's when I went to sleep. |
| 00:00.31 | drewbono | jbot, make macnewbold stop working |
| 00:00.33 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `macnewbold stop working'. Stop. |
| 00:00.38 | macnewbold | hehe |
| 00:00.42 | drewbono | CRUD! |
| 00:00.52 | macnewbold | ~make all |
| 00:00.54 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop. |
| 00:00.57 | macnewbold | ~make |
| 00:01.05 | drewbono | jbot, make macnewbold continue working deep into the night |
| 00:01.07 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `macnewbold continue working deep into the night'. Stop. |
| 00:01.07 | macnewbold | ~make install |
| 00:01.09 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 00:01.11 | drewbono | Take taht! |
| 00:01.14 | drewbono | that! |
| 00:01.18 | dataw0lf | ~make drewbono |
| 00:01.21 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `drewbono'. Stop. |
| 00:01.26 | macnewbold | ~make jbot |
| 00:01.28 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `jbot'. Stop. |
| 00:01.41 | macnewbold | ~jbot jbot |
| 00:01.42 | jbot | jbot is, like, the shipboard computer, but you may call me eddie if it helps you relax |
| 00:01.42 | drewbono | ~make drewbono a hot wife |
| 00:01.44 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `drewbono a hot wife'. Stop. |
| 00:01.49 | drewbono | Shaft. |
| 00:01.58 | macnewbold | hm... |
| 00:02.09 | drewbono | jbot, man make |
| 00:02.16 | macnewbold | is dataw0lf trying to make drewbono _be_ a wife, or make a wife _for_ drewbono? |
| 00:02.27 | dataw0lf | I'm trying to make him MY wife. |
| 00:02.29 | macnewbold | ~make brownies |
| 00:02.31 | jbot | make: *** No rule to make target `brownies'. Stop. |
| 00:02.32 | macnewbold | ewww |
| 00:02.34 | drewbono | son of a... |
| 00:02.46 | drewbono | My mom always said I should stay out of IRC channels... |
| 00:02.53 | macnewbold | ~dataw0lf-- |
| 00:02.54 | drewbono | bad peoples in here. |
| 00:02.56 | macnewbold | for being scary |
| 00:03.05 | drewbono | :-) |
| 00:03.23 | macnewbold | reminds me of the song "Mama told me not to come".... |
| 00:03.26 | dataw0lf | I'm taking the ring back. |
| 00:03.35 | macnewbold | "That ain't the way to have fun, no!" |
| 00:13.03 | drewbono | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:18.51 | dataw0lf | drewbono: read the small print at the bottom of the prenup. |
| 00:42.20 | macnewbold | see y'all on friday! /me is outta here finally |
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| 05:12.48 | mindjuju | hey optikal! |
| 05:12.53 | mindjuju | haven't seen ya in a while |
| 05:13.16 | optikal | whats up buddy! |
| 05:13.33 | mindjuju | jumped to a new job that doesn't take kindly to IRC |
| 05:13.36 | mindjuju | :( |
| 05:13.47 | mindjuju | that's why i'm not on in the day time |
| 05:13.47 | optikal | that's a shame. |
| 05:13.59 | mindjuju | yeah, loved kicking it here in the IRC forum |
| 05:14.05 | optikal | it's fun. |
| 05:14.17 | mindjuju | you a star wars fan? |
| 05:14.18 | optikal | I usually call it an IRC channel. |
| 05:14.23 | optikal | Yes, I am. |
| 05:14.30 | optikal | btw, this isn't optikal; this is dataw0lf |
| 05:14.36 | optikal | I'm at optikal's house. |
| 05:14.47 | mindjuju | well that's cool |
| 05:14.58 | mindjuju | i just found those 80 spolier picks for star wars 3 |
| 05:15.09 | optikal | I saw those a month ago. |
| 05:15.16 | optikal | they've been around for a while. |
| 05:15.24 | optikal | I have the trailer. |
| 05:15.25 | mindjuju | i'm the kinda guy that likes my desserts before dinner, and I don't mind spoilers! Yeah, but I'm not as trendy as you |
| 05:15.33 | optikal | That's true. |
| 05:15.38 | mindjuju | i just found out about them |
| 05:15.50 | optikal | yeah, they've been the topic of conversation for a while. |
| 05:15.54 | optikal | right around the mac mini craze. |
| 05:16.17 | mindjuju | yeah noticed a bunch of posts from Jan Feb, but all of them were wiped of pictures |
| 05:16.30 | mindjuju | i guess the sites got sunk or received copyright notice |
| 05:16.43 | optikal | ah, mostly heard about them in IRC or on torrent mailing lists. |
| 05:16.51 | mindjuju | so what's this about a trailer? |
| 05:16.56 | optikal | yeah. |
| 05:17.00 | mindjuju | is it the one that is on the starwars site now? |
| 05:17.03 | mindjuju | or something new? |
| 05:17.05 | optikal | no. |
| 05:17.17 | optikal | you know the one they're releasing on Fox in a couple days? |
| 05:17.21 | optikal | maybe even tomorrow. |
| 05:17.29 | mindjuju | oh i heard about that. on the OC? |
| 05:17.40 | mindjuju | didn't know when it was, just heard it was going to be during the OC |
| 05:17.41 | optikal | might be. I don't watch TV. |
| 05:17.42 | mindjuju | do you have it? |
| 05:17.48 | optikal | yeah. |
| 05:18.21 | mindjuju | can you post it to a site for a quick download? |
| 05:18.29 | optikal | you can probably google for it and find it now, I think everyone has their hands on it. since like noon or something. |
| 05:18.45 | optikal | but if you can't find it I might be able to ssh into my box and put it up for download. |
| 05:18.45 | mindjuju | i'll have to look for it |
| 05:18.54 | optikal | but that requires effort. |
| 05:18.58 | mindjuju | nah, i'll google it |
| 05:18.59 | optikal | which I don't have. |
| 05:19.07 | optikal | O |
| 05:19.10 | optikal | ugh |
| 05:19.12 | optikal | I've been sinning |
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| 05:19.32 | mindjuju | sinning? |
| 05:19.37 | mindjuju | or singing? |
| 05:19.50 | optikal | sinning. |
| 05:19.58 | optikal | like, you know, indulging in some alcohol. |
| 05:20.08 | optikal | at optikal's. |
| 05:20.11 | optikal | tierra is here too. |
| 05:20.19 | mindjuju | what were ya'll drinking? |
| 05:20.44 | optikal | BUDweiser |
| 05:21.54 | mindjuju | well, for being a little tipsy, your typing well |
| 05:21.58 | mindjuju | no misspelled words |
| 05:22.18 | optikal | I'm dataw0lf. I hardly ever miss something up. |
| 05:22.29 | optikal | *mess |
| 05:22.30 | optikal | ;) |
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| 17:12.43 | wps | anyone on a modem that can test a page load for me? |
| 17:19.07 | macnewbold | not me, sorry. Thank goodness. |
| 17:22.19 | wps | yeah :) |
| 17:22.43 | macnewbold | if I had my laptop, I could hook up my cell phone and test it at 14.4kbps for you :) |
| 17:22.58 | macnewbold | so are you just looking for timing, or something else? |
| 17:23.16 | wps | well, I have a background image that I am trying to see if I can get away with |
| 17:23.21 | macnewbold | ah |
| 17:23.27 | macnewbold | how many KB? |
| 17:23.34 | wps | I have gotten it down to 160 K, but can't go any further without loosing quality |
| 17:23.44 | macnewbold | hm... |
| 17:24.00 | wps | I think it's going to be too big |
| 17:24.03 | wps | :( |
| 17:24.08 | macnewbold | it's about 30 sec on a 56k |
| 17:24.29 | macnewbold | but it's a bg image, so maybe losing some quality is okay? ;) |
| 17:24.51 | wps | nah, it looks lame if it's not crisp |
| 17:24.56 | macnewbold | ah |
| 17:25.32 | macnewbold | hm... maybe you could javascript it so that the bg image loads very last? |
| 17:33.01 | optikal- | wps: send me the background image, or link me to it, and i might be able to get it compressed down lower without loss of quality.. |
| 17:34.11 | wps | you want to start with the already compressed some JPG? or the uncompressed GIF? |
| 17:37.42 | macnewbold | wps: you can crank the compression way down with png w/o loss of quality |
| 17:39.45 | wps | hmm... Photoshop doesn't give you the option to alter the compression settings for PNGs |
| 17:41.16 | macnewbold | try the gimp :) |
| 17:41.20 | macnewbold | even xv lets you change it |
| 17:41.36 | macnewbold | if you want me to try it, send me a URL for the jpg and gif versions |
| 17:41.39 | macnewbold | or a png version |
| 17:42.15 | wps | JPG -> http://dev.anavidesign.com/images/background.jpg |
| 17:42.34 | wps | GIF -> http://dev.anavidesign.com/images/background.gif |
| 17:42.44 | wps | the GIf is the quality I want |
| 17:42.49 | wps | it's just too big |
| 17:42.50 | wps | 600 K |
| 17:44.23 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 17:44.23 | macnewbold | k |
| 17:49.29 | macnewbold | the png took it down some, but not enough |
| 17:49.34 | macnewbold | I'm posting some things I tried here: |
| 17:49.57 | macnewbold | http://tahiti.dmedia.ws/wps/ |
| 17:50.13 | macnewbold | the jpgs with numbers are % of compression |
| 17:50.20 | macnewbold | the 80b is with 10% smoothing |
| 17:50.26 | macnewbold | and the 80c is 15% smoothing |
| 17:51.21 | macnewbold | you can see quality loss in the jpgs, but some of the ones as small as 75K are still high enough qual (IMHO) to get the job done... nobody but you will know how good the original looked :) |
| 17:52.34 | macnewbold | that's an interesting problem... I think the only way you'll get better is by shrinking its dimensions... |
| 17:52.56 | macnewbold | wps: let me know when you're done with those images, and I'll remove them |
| 17:52.58 | wps | yeah |
| 17:53.01 | wps | k |
| 17:53.04 | macnewbold | so nobody steals your work :) |
| 17:54.13 | wps | done |
| 17:54.23 | wps | you do the compressing with GIMP? |
| 17:54.30 | macnewbold | those were actually just with xv |
| 17:54.35 | macnewbold | but gimp is nice |
| 17:54.36 | wps | what's that? |
| 17:54.42 | wps | a command line utility? |
| 17:54.43 | macnewbold | the ImageMagick tools work well too |
| 17:54.52 | macnewbold | yeah, just some little image viewer |
| 17:55.00 | wps | ha ha |
| 17:55.05 | wps | and it spanked Photoshop's butt |
| 17:55.08 | macnewbold | but it links all the different image libraries, so it can do lots of stuff |
| 17:55.19 | macnewbold | three cheers for open source free software! |
| 17:55.25 | macnewbold | ~praise open source free software |
| 17:55.27 | jbot | All hail open source free software! |
| 17:55.41 | macnewbold | you heard jbot, now everybody hail it! |
| 17:56.05 | macnewbold | oooh, a great idea for a credit card ad: |
| 17:56.23 | macnewbold | Brand new pimped-out Apple G5: $3500 |
| 17:56.36 | macnewbold | 36" Apple Theater display: $6000 |
| 17:56.56 | macnewbold | Every Adobe program known to man: $10,000 |
| 17:57.08 | macnewbold | watching a free program on a free OS on a $500 PC spank it: priceless |
| 18:02.30 | wps | it anyone is looking for a nice, new display, the ViewSonic 20.1" is now down to $698! |
| 18:02.30 | wps | I just ordered another |
| 18:03.07 | usynic | macnewbold: hehe |
| 18:03.09 | wps | pop two of those together and you get 40" of real estate for only $1400! |
| 18:03.09 | macnewbold | ecost.com has 17" LCD's (1280x1024) for $150, or 19" for $250 or less |
| 18:04.02 | wps | yes, but who can work on 17" ? and what brands are those? displays for that price will not support high resolution. |
| 18:04.44 | wps | what is the pixel pitch? brightness? contrast ration? response time? |
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| 18:06.13 | optikal- | wps: sorry, just got back to your background.. does it tile or how does that bg sit? |
| 18:06.22 | wps | yes, it tiles |
| 18:09.27 | optikal- | wps: optikal.org/background-compressed.jpg |
| 18:09.29 | optikal- | 56.4K |
| 18:09.33 | optikal- | if that okay? |
| 18:09.52 | wps | url bad |
| 18:10.10 | optikal- | urdnsbad..url fine |
| 18:10.27 | usynic | url works for me |
| 18:10.44 | optikal- | http://70.85.16.213/background-compressed.jpg |
| 18:11.46 | wps | thanks |
| 18:11.53 | optikal- | np |
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| 18:15.06 | macnewbold | wps: the 17" does 1280x1024, and it's what I use on my desk. it works great. but I'm not a graphic designer, so I might not be as picky about some of the details. |
| 18:15.15 | macnewbold | I just need the high resolution |
| 18:15.29 | wps | yeah, I can't work on less than 1600 x 1200 |
| 18:15.47 | macnewbold | what's the smallest LCD you know of that can get that res? |
| 18:15.59 | wps | smallest as in what? size? |
| 18:16.01 | tbye | My 2000FP will do it... |
| 18:16.02 | macnewbold | yeah |
| 18:16.03 | macnewbold | inches |
| 18:16.04 | tbye | 20" |
| 18:16.10 | wps | there are nineteens that do that |
| 18:16.11 | macnewbold | and lowest cost |
| 18:16.13 | tbye | it's a Dell |
| 18:16.22 | tbye | ~$500 |
| 18:16.23 | wps | probably a dell for ~500 |
| 18:16.40 | macnewbold | I could buy _three_ of mine for that price. |
| 18:16.45 | tbye | I'm wishing my D800 would drive the 24" Dell 2405FP |
| 18:16.52 | macnewbold | 1600x1200 is nice, but not worth triple the cost, for me anyway |
| 18:17.33 | tbye | My Dell has composite and svideo inputs that I can do picture in picture with... it's nice to play dvds on the playstation while I'm working at home. ;-) |
| 18:17.57 | tbye | The new 2405 (24") also includes component inputs. |
| 18:18.17 | wps | that's awesome |
| 18:18.37 | tbye | They regularly have deals where you can get them for $750 with the purchase of a pc (pc runs about 850) |
| 18:18.42 | wps | I'm surprised that Apple's new Cinema displays don't do component inputs |
| 18:19.01 | tbye | The refresh is down to 12 milis on the new Dells |
| 18:19.17 | wps | really? |
| 18:19.20 | wps | wow |
| 18:19.20 | tbye | apparently that is good for gamers or something. |
| 18:19.25 | wps | it's 16 on my viewsonics |
| 18:19.33 | tbye | 16 on my current dell |
| 18:19.37 | tbye | I have the first gen |
| 18:19.50 | tbye | but it's been a really great monitor |
| 18:20.33 | tbye | The Angel funding our company decided to tell me about his Mac when I said I was a Mac fan... |
| 18:20.42 | tbye | Dual G5 with Dual 30" LCDs.... |
| 18:20.48 | tbye | I could've died on the spot. |
| 18:21.38 | tbye | nothing like 6k in monitors... |
| 18:22.48 | wps | I can get 60" of desktop with three 20.1" viewsomics for $2000 though... instead of $6000 |
| 18:23.35 | tbye | 4k of ooohhh factor... hehe |
| 18:23.55 | tbye | You need to pay the ego fees to join Steve's club. |
| 18:25.47 | wps | http://www.viewsonic.com/images/quad_175x175.jpg |
| 18:26.08 | wps | that's what I want |
| 18:29.04 | wps | it's all about where you spend your money, macnewbold :) |
| 18:29.08 | wps | which toys are more important |
| 18:29.11 | wps | some people go out to each every day |
| 18:29.15 | wps | some go golfing |
| 18:29.18 | wps | some go skiing |
| 18:29.35 | wps | I save and then buy displays! yeah! |
| 18:33.30 | dataw0lf | yeah, I buy alot of porn. |
| 18:33.56 | tbye | I'm a sledneck |
| 18:34.02 | wps | ~sledneck |
| 18:34.32 | tbye | sledneck == snowmobile enthusiast on amphetamines. |
| 18:34.37 | wps | ah |
| 18:34.48 | dataw0lf | that sounds fun. |
| 18:35.35 | tbye | My bro-in-law almost became one of this year's avalanche statistics... |
| 18:35.58 | dataw0lf | while on amphetamines? |
| 18:36.12 | tbye | we got him out in 11 minutes from when he dissappeared... 3 days later we found the machine and got it dug out. |
| 18:36.28 | tbye | believe you me... he was hopped up when we got him out. |
| 18:36.59 | dataw0lf | I bet. |
| 18:37.03 | dataw0lf | amphetamines do that to you. |
| 18:38.03 | tbye | Actually it wasn't all that fun... I'd just been to avalanche school at snowbird.... where they teach you to use your beacons and transponders. |
| 18:39.34 | tbye | when I saw the hill slide I just remember looking at my watch and my adrenaline kicking in... trying to gauge where he would end up... |
| 18:39.55 | tbye | thought to myself... I've got 30 minutes if he stays calm... |
| 18:45.27 | dataw0lf | adrenaline is nice. |
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| 22:53.50 | spiderbiter | gee, quiet day macnewbold |
| 22:54.17 | macnewbold | yeah, spiderbiter |
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