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| 20:41.26 | Yorokobi | eggyknap, I'm interested in your opinion of xmonad after you've used it long enough to form an opinion. |
| 20:42.58 | eggyknap | I mostly like it for the same reasons I like ion (lightweight, tiling, keyboard-based), with the bonus that 1) the maintainer allows it to be packaged, and 2) it's based on Haskell. My masochistic side has been jonesing to learn Haskell for quite some time. |
| 20:43.37 | Yorokobi | Haskell, the biggest complaint against xmonad. :) |
| 20:43.58 | eggyknap | Someone I found particularly helpful in #xmonad this morning said, "yeah, we try to compensate for the difficulty that comes with using Haskell for configuration, by a less rtfm-ish attitude in the irc channel :) |
| 20:44.18 | Yorokobi | lol |
| 20:52.36 | eggyknap | Another point: ion handles my typical work style better, probably because I've used it for years and have changed my style to suit it. xmonad handles floating windows better (dialog boxen, for example) |
| 20:58.07 | Yorokobi | Yeah, that was one reason I never tried ion3. I don't want my 100x300 dialog box to be 200x1024 because the window manager wants it to fit that way. |
| 21:16.29 | macnewbold | Haskell? I had a coworker years ago who was nuts about Haskell. |
| 21:16.42 | macnewbold | I guess one good thing about a language like that is you know all 12 people who use it... |
| 21:33.10 | eggyknap | I'm becoming convinced that functional programming needs to become more mainstream if we want software to improve much. |
| 21:33.22 | eggyknap | Not that I have any idea what I'm talking about :) |
| 22:20.32 | macnewbold | different means to the same end. You can accomplish substantially the same thing with procedural, functional, or object oriented. Or with iterative or recursive. |
| 22:20.38 | macnewbold | they suit different situations though |
| 23:11.16 | eggyknap | Functional languages teach you to think about things in a different way. Sometimes that particular way of thinking is a pain, and a hindrance, and sometimes it's really useful. People would do well at least to know functional methods exist. |
| 23:11.51 | eggyknap | other programming language families teach other ways of thinking, which are similarly sometimes helpful and sometimes a hindrance... granted. |