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| 04:21.13 | dalias | can anyone recommend an alternative for gnu m4? busybox doesn't seem to have one and gnu m4 is one of the most horribly nonportable gnu packages i've run into :/ |
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| 07:27.07 | kos_tom | hello |
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| 09:22.54 | ncopa | morning |
| 09:23.00 | ncopa | where is __UCLIBC__ defined? |
| 09:23.58 | ncopa | features.h |
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| 16:00.41 | gustavoz | Jacmet: we aren't doing anything with powerpc ABIs in target/Config.in.arch, know why? |
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| 16:14.06 | georgem | I was using uClibc 0.9.27 on a system running linux 2.6.26.8 ARM nommu and everything was working file. I upgraded linux to 2.6.33.7 and now after my kernel prints "Freeing init memory: 72K" fget_light causes a data abort exception. Anyone think this could be because my uClibc is too old? |
| 16:15.13 | Jacmet | gustavoz: no, not really - It seems to have bitrotten |
| 16:15.43 | gustavoz | Jacmet: hmm i'll give it a shot of re-enabling it |
| 16:15.51 | Jacmet | gustavoz: ok, thanks |
| 16:16.12 | gustavoz | Jacmet: otherwise we don't do SPE and that would be good for the thing i've got here :) |
| 16:16.25 | Jacmet | gustavoz: I haven't noticed any issue with not defining it, but don't have altivec/spe/.. hw |
| 16:16.41 | gustavoz | Jacmet: i lack softfloat ppc to test the changes i do though |
| 16:16.56 | Jacmet | gustavoz: I have softfloat here |
| 16:17.07 | gustavoz | Jacmet: for now i've got e300c3 (classic) & e500v2 (spe or classic) and both are hard |
| 16:17.29 | gustavoz | Jacmet: e500* is by definition hard IIRC |
| 16:17.59 | Jacmet | gustavoz: I have some old 405 hw somewhere I could dig up |
| 16:18.22 | gustavoz | Jacmet: cool, i can do qemu but i think it's somewhat lax with respect to emulation in the cpu department |
| 16:18.41 | gustavoz | (allows things that wouldn't work on real hardware) |
| 16:18.43 | Jacmet | gustavoz: and otherwise I have e300 hw as well |
| 16:19.08 | gustavoz | Jacmet: wrt hard fp we could do some extra work too since some are single and others double precision FP |
| 16:19.48 | Jacmet | gustavoz: how is that supported in gcc? do you fall back to kernel emulation for double stuff? |
| 16:19.49 | gustavoz | Jacmet: for arm i'm somewhat tempted to go for ISA rather than core |
| 16:20.36 | gustavoz | we've got a lot of redundancy there |
| 16:22.16 | Jacmet | gustavoz: true |
| 16:46.22 | gustavoz | khem: hi, around? i'm seeing this initially with git http://pastebin.com/gsHhDTVt and when i patch-fix it i get to this http://pastebin.com/M3SAhuan |
| 16:47.07 | georgem | Is anyone here running uClibc on an ARM with NOMMU Linux kernel 2.6.27.x or new? |
| 16:56.09 | pt3asw | i get the following error message when installing uclibc headers: http://pastebin.com/TgMRkNyi |
| 16:56.40 | pt3asw | i don't know if it is because of gcc or uclibc |
| 16:57.41 | pt3asw | the target is arm cortex-a8 |
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| 17:35.15 | speakman | qt 4.7.1 build fails... hmm |
| 17:36.57 | speakman | trying again with sourcery 2010q1 |
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| 17:57.38 | speakman | yes, 2010q1 did the trick |
| 18:09.53 | Jacmet | speakman: if what config does it fail for you? |
| 18:22.41 | speakman | Jacmet: not sure I understand. What in Qt caused the error? I'm still running 2010.11 btw. |
| 18:22.54 | gustavoz | speakman: which toolchain for instance? |
| 18:24.26 | speakman | oh I forgot to tell, it's CodeSourcery ARM 2010.09 |
| 18:24.29 | speakman | that fails |
| 18:27.42 | Jacmet | speakman: sorry, meant 'with what config did it fail?' |
| 18:28.04 | Jacmet | speakman: ok, I built qt with the internal toolchain recently without problems |
| 18:28.16 | speakman | Jacmet: oh, it's a home rolled with neon enabled |
| 18:28.44 | speakman | Jacmet: CS 2010q1 didn't fail though |
| 18:30.22 | pt3asw | the cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mbig-endian" is still persecuting me.. |
| 18:30.38 | pt3asw | i'm new to the arm world |
| 18:32.57 | pt3asw | target triplet is arm-qemu-linux-gnueabi, but i'm not sure it is right |
| 18:33.59 | pt3asw | this is because i believe "gnu" is for glibc, while "uclibc" is for... uclibc |
| 18:34.12 | speakman | pt3asw: which defconfig? |
| 18:34.44 | pt3asw | i haven't used defconfig. i used oldconfig |
| 18:34.46 | y_morin | pt3asw: *-gnueabi is for glibc. And *-uclibcgnueabi is for uClibc. |
| 18:34.57 | y_morin | I mean, for EABI. |
| 18:35.14 | y_morin | pt3asw: and for OABI, resp *-gnu and *-uclibc. |
| 18:35.35 | pt3asw | y_morin, where did you find this info? |
| 18:37.15 | pt3asw | (by the way, in the meantime i also tried with ct-ng, and it seems to work - arm-unknown-linux-uclibcgnueabi) |
| 18:39.28 | pt3asw | also, CFLAGS_FOR_TARGET="-Os -mcpu=cortex-a8 -pipe" |
| 18:42.28 | y_morin | pt3asw: look in a config.sub from /recent/ autstuff. |
| 18:42.45 | y_morin | s/autstuff/autostuff/ |
| 18:43.30 | y_morin | pt3asw: and I learnt it the hard way from my beginings at building toolchains. |
| 18:45.51 | pt3asw | anyway, same error, even with arm-qemu-linux-uclibcgnueabi |
| 18:47.37 | y_morin | pt3asw: what are you doing that gives you this 'cc1 error' ? |
| 18:48.27 | pt3asw | i have built the gcc cross compiler without the headers. i installed the linux headers. now i'd like to install the uclibc headers, so i can then use them to build a better gcc |
| 18:49.21 | y_morin | pt3asw: what uClibc version? |
| 18:49.32 | pt3asw | latest 0.9.32-rc1 |
| 18:50.01 | y_morin | pt3asw: NPTL or LinuxThreads? |
| 18:50.17 | speakman | any particular reason you're aiming for big endian? |
| 18:50.23 | pt3asw | LINUXTHREADS_NEW=y |
| 18:50.58 | pt3asw | speakman, i haven't choose bigendian by myself |
| 18:51.20 | y_morin | pt3asw: there's been a fix recently committed to git wrt respect headers generation. Lemme dig the archives to get you the pointer... |
| 18:51.27 | pt3asw | CONFIG_ARM_EABI=y |
| 18:52.01 | y_morin | pt3asw: http://git.buildroot.org/uClibc/commit/?id=8764f2e75c875757529aa81e5cd96e17e6f6e5e4 |
| 18:53.31 | pt3asw | ok, so i either patch 0.9.32-rc1 that way or i use git.. |
| 18:53.51 | y_morin | pt3asw: try patching first. |
| 18:55.07 | y_morin | pt3asw: are you building out-of-tree? |
| 18:55.30 | pt3asw | by "tree" you mean the sources tree? |
| 18:55.48 | y_morin | pt3asw: yes, building in a directory that is not the source tree. |
| 18:56.19 | pt3asw | yes with gmp, mpfr, mpc, binutils and gcc; no for linux, uclibc and busybox |
| 18:57.02 | y_morin | pt3asw: I meant for uClibc. So you will not need: http://git.buildroot.org/uClibc/commit/?id=fc91a4155d265a189ae6aa50b63640d8da7b3609 |
| 18:59.50 | pt3asw | i just patched uclibc the way you said before. it works now! even in the tree |
| 19:00.15 | y_morin | pt3asw: good! :-) |
| 19:00.17 | pt3asw | thank you y_morin! |
| 19:01.20 | pt3asw | for the future, i don't know if to use the latest released tarballs for the toolchain packages, or the various git/hg/svn versions |
| 19:01.51 | pt3asw | the latter requires more knowledge by my side, but i'm happy to learn |
| 19:02.38 | y_morin | pt3asw: depends on what you want. If you want production-ready toolchain, go for the released tarballs. If you want a bleeding-edge, ready to break toolchain and/or test various components, then go for the repos heads. |
| 19:04.35 | pt3asw | well. i cross compile just for hobby. also, i'd like to help when i'll be more knowledgeable. so i think i'll try the repository versions :) |
| 19:06.57 | y_morin | pt3asw: I would recommend that you look at the way crosstool-NG does its thing. There are a hell-lot of corner cases and weird stuff goin' on in toolchain land... |
| 19:07.33 | y_morin | G2G, BBL. |
| 19:07.35 | y_morin | is going for dinner! :-) |
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| 19:35.05 | Montreal1 | hi folks |
| 19:37.20 | Montreal1 | i don't know if this is the right place to ask...but i have some weird prob with my Motorola IPTV STB box |
| 19:37.33 | Montreal1 | this box running on busybox |
| 19:38.18 | Montreal1 | and even if the original stream is 4:3 ( 720x576 ) i still get wide pic...16:9 or so |
| 19:38.28 | Montreal1 | i have access via terminal only |
| 19:38.33 | Montreal1 | what can i do? |
| 19:38.40 | Montreal1 | to fix this? |
| 19:42.22 | Montreal1 | can i access somehow in stings? |
| 20:07.43 | xMff | this is not related to busybox at all |
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| 20:12.28 | Montreal1 | but same livestreams i can see it straith on my WDTV Live |
| 20:12.48 | Montreal1 | wdtv live show them right |
| 20:13.37 | xMff | busbox is a shell for the os, video streaming happens, display management and conversion happens elsewhere, most likely in some proprietary vendor software |
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| 20:14.55 | Montreal1 | i seee, but coz wdtv show'em strait, so i thought if someth is wrong...will be on both box-es |
| 20:15.11 | Montreal1 | not just on Motorola |
| 20:38.32 | y_morin | ELC `11 CFP is on-line: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/embedded-linux-conference/cfp |
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