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| 03:39.30 | CIA-19 | 03vda * r24411 10uClibc/docs/sigaction.txt: Add proposed plan of sanitizing sigaction to docs/* | 
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| 14:49.08 | CIA-19 | 03vda * r24412 10busybox/miscutils/watchdog.c: watchdog: build fixes, no code changes | 
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| 20:14.47 | landley | The linux kernel's "make headers_install"  was rewritten in perl for the 2.6.27 kernel. | 
| 20:19.46 | malloc | at least it wasn't rewritten in python | 
| 20:21.08 | sega01 | lua would be nice :-) | 
| 20:21.09 | mnemoc | python is easier to cross compile :\ | 
| 20:24.58 | landley | Python is much easier to cross compile. | 
| 20:25.03 | landley | The perl build system is _written_in_perl_. | 
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| 20:27.41 | malloc | i'm just saying, there is already a precendent in the kernel for using perl even though i thought the preference was going to be minimize/remove going forward | 
| 20:28.35 | sega01 | i don't like perl or python, but i prefer perl from a perspective of having it required for autotools and building lots of other things | 
| 20:29.16 | mnemoc | next step, making linux depend on libtool :\ | 
| 20:29.25 | sega01 | heh | 
| 20:29.29 | malloc | lol | 
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| 20:33.38 | gnomon | landley, that is -very- depressing to hear. | 
| 20:33.56 | sega01 | chicken and egg conspiracy right there | 
| 20:34.15 | gnomon | malloc, there is most certainly *not* a precedent for Perl in the kernel dependencies, unless you count that one stupid, stupid bit of tic conversion code. | 
| 20:35.28 | landley | malloc: Sam Ravnborg stated his intention to rewrite the whole of kconfig in perl last year. | 
| 20:35.41 | landley | H. Peter Anvin added the first chunk of "required perl". | 
| 20:36.01 | landley | When I argued against it, I was the _only_ one and they said what I wanted to do was strange and unique and nobody else cared. | 
| 20:36.17 | landley | Apparently they were right.  Nobody else spoke up about it. | 
| 20:36.53 | gnomon | I owe you an apology for that. | 
| 20:37.36 | gnomon | I meant to get involved with that argument, but I didn't make time for it. I'm sorry for not backing you up. | 
| 20:38.13 | landley | Lots of people emailed me privately expressing support.  Exactly zero of them posted to the list. | 
| 20:38.22 | landley | Congratulations: you're stuck with it. | 
| 20:54.20 | gnomon | Ouch. | 
| 20:55.18 | swishy | guesses he missed something | 
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| 21:15.30 | gnomon | Ooh, interesting - looks like tcc is finally acquiring x86-64 support: http://repo.or.cz/w/tinycc.git?a=commit;h=0a9873aa22731077fad295a4aad2fc1f390c8ac7 | 
| 21:19.29 | LFSveteran | does someone has a hint: http://pastebin.com/d7b068692 | 
| 21:19.45 | LFSveteran | trying to crosscompile uclibc 0.9.26 for arm | 
| 21:22.19 | HcE | upgrade to 0.9.30? | 
| 21:22.37 | LFSveteran | Tried that one also, which gave other errors | 
| 21:22.45 | LFSveteran | even tried the snapshot one | 
| 21:22.47 | HcE | forgot to install kernel headers? | 
| 21:22.58 | LFSveteran | kernel 2.6.12.6 | 
| 21:23.30 | LFSveteran | I unpacked the source in /tmp and let the .config point to /tmp/linux-2.6.12.6 | 
| 21:24.30 | HcE | you must do headers_install from the kernel directory | 
| 21:24.40 | HcE | and point to that directory in uClibc config | 
| 21:24.57 | HcE | make ARCH=arm headers_install INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/tmp/linux | 
| 21:25.00 | LFSveteran | I believe that feature wasn't available yet in version 2.6.12.6 | 
| 21:25.02 | HcE | or something like that | 
| 21:25.27 | HcE | use an up to date kernel then | 
| 21:25.51 | HcE | perhaps you only need to do make ARCH=arm prepare then | 
| 21:25.59 | LFSveteran | it's an existing embedded system, so likely I need the same kernel | 
| 21:52.10 | landley | headers_install showed up in 2.6.19. | 
| 21:52.14 | landley | You need Mazur's headers. | 
| 21:52.41 | landley | LFSveteran: http://ep09.pld-linux.org/~mmazur/linux-libc-headers/ | 
| 21:54.29 | LFSveteran | thanks, trying it | 
| 21:58.29 | LFSveteran | same problem: limits.h | 
| 21:59.03 | LFSveteran | hmm | 
| 21:59.10 | LFSveteran | something went wrong | 
| 21:59.12 | LFSveteran | moment | 
| 22:00.07 | landley | gnomon: if it'd had happened six months ago, I'd be extatic.  But tcc is dead to me now. | 
| 22:00.21 | landley | s/extatic/ecstatic | 
| 22:01.52 | LFSveteran | how about the makefile | 
| 22:02.16 | LFSveteran | uclibc is complaining , that wants to see a makefile in the source tree | 
| 22:02.48 | landley | gnomon: wake me when they cut a release from a repository other than cvs. | 
| 22:05.19 | LFSveteran | can go to 0.9.28, but then I get an error about  undefined reference to 'raise' | 
| 22:09.06 | landley | Link to the error? | 
| 22:09.24 | LFSveteran | trying to copy it | 
| 22:09.39 | swishy | poor thing | 
| 22:09.42 | swishy | pat pats LFSveteran | 
| 22:09.44 | swishy | ;p | 
| 22:10.31 | LFSveteran | http://pastebin.com/d10f7a5ff | 
| 22:10.46 | LFSveteran | Never thought uclibc could be so hard | 
| 22:10.58 | swishy | it isnt | 
| 22:11.07 | LFSveteran | I know | 
| 22:11.09 | swishy | its the compbination of everything that makes it hard | 
| 22:11.10 | swishy | :) | 
| 22:11.12 | swishy | hehe | 
| 22:11.19 | LFSveteran | but this way I just get that feeling | 
| 22:11.37 | LFSveteran | purrss | 
| 22:35.36 | landley | LFSveteran: it's the fact you're using such an old kernel.  We've forgotten all the workarounds. | 
| 22:35.48 | landley | (Let's see, one release every 3 months is 4/year, they're currently on 27, so 27-12... | 
| 22:36.01 | landley | Just under 4 years old. | 
| 22:36.38 | landley | Oh that thing. | 
| 22:36.42 | landley | I saw that thing before. | 
| 22:36.49 | landley | It's funky soft float weirdness. | 
| 22:37.02 | landley | Your toolchain, kernel, and uClibc disagree on what floating point variants you're using. | 
| 22:37.37 | landley | I honestly have no idea which of the three should be defining raise... | 
| 22:38.19 | landley | For gcc 4.3, look around in libgcc_eh.a to see if it's defined there... |