IRC log for #uclibc on 20080809

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23:44.04freezican someone please help me understand what nls/iconv in uclibc does? is it required for someone in china to use the system?
23:46.17jbiticonv is for character set conversion, and is required by alot of applications to handle non-system character sets
23:46.39jbitfor example displaying unicode on a non-unicode system, or utf16 on a utf8 system
23:46.55jbitnls is more to do with locale stuff (string translation)
23:47.18jbitsomebody in china would definatly appreciate both ;)
23:48.02jbitbut english speakers in america/europe would also appreciate them for certain things (depending what your system does)
23:53.17freezihmm does it affect everything? how was i able to see chinese text in firefox on a box using uclibc with no nls or iconv?
23:54.37jbitnls has nothign to do with the ability to do non-english text, its more about application text
23:54.44jbitand iconv is only needed for conversion
23:55.03jbit(and i think firefox may have built in character conversion routines)
23:55.58jbiticonv will be needed if you want to read a big5 text file on a utf8 system
23:56.02freeziapplication text? like coding with a chinese machine and compiling?
23:56.24jbitlike having the menus in chinese, and the error messages in chinese
23:56.45freeziwhat will a chinaman see if i don't use uclibc iconv?
23:57.14jbitit depends on the applicaiton and system setup, if everything they do is in utf8 itll be fine for them
23:57.32jbitbut without nls all the user interface will be in english
23:57.51jbitwhich may not be ideal
23:58.57freeziso if all the apps use utf8 for input/output iconv doesn't matter, and nls is for telling the apps what strings to display?
23:59.02jbitfreezi: something like that
23:59.14jbitbut if they want to read a BIG5 file, then having iconv might be a good idea
23:59.29freezii don't even know what BIG5 is :)
23:59.31jbitif your system is for a closed-world environment where no external files will get in, then itll be okay
23:59.38jbitfreezi: big5 is an old chinese character set
23:59.54jbitit was used (and probably still is used) by windows for chinese text

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