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07:55.48CIA-1003aldot * r20001 10buildroot/ (10 files in 9 dirs): - revert patch that obfuscates the config UI and doesn't reflect the order of config steps
07:56.18blindvt`i'm tempted to just killfile some
08:01.16CIA-1003aldot * r20002 10buildroot/ (Config.in target/arch.in): - factor arch/cpu setting out into separate include file
08:18.37CIA-1003aldot * r20003 10buildroot/ (8 files in 7 dirs): - remove one invariant in toolchain type selection.
08:24.28CIA-1003aldot 07buildroot2 * r20004 10/: copy buildroot2 tobranches/ buildroot2
08:28.11CIA-1003aldot * r20005 10buildroot/TODO: - flesh out
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10:00.58Jacmetblindvt`: buildroot2/3?
10:09.43blindvt`i'm actively thinking about it, yes
10:09.53blindvt`time to rm some cruft, imo
10:10.40blindvt`i'll shortly remove old binutils (2.17, 2.17.50.latest 2.18 2.18.latest will stay), same for gcc
10:11.39blindvt`it doesn't make sense to me to keep patches for gcc-3.3.5 in the repo. If you want that, grab the backup-cp in branches/, i'd say
10:12.22Jacmetblindvt`: ok
10:13.18Jacmetblindvt`: getting a stable release out would be neat as well
10:13.47blindvt`b@s39:/tmp/buildroot$ grep -A3 BR3_VERSION Config.in
10:13.48blindvt`config BR3_VERSION
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10:14.10blindvt`Jacmet, i was thinking about the same ;)
10:14.46blindvt`but i still think that a static release is not really suitable WRT buildroot
10:15.12Jacmetblindvt`: because of the upstream URLS going stale?
10:15.56blindvt`well, we could cache those packages in the buildroot-downloads-0.10.0 (for example), sure
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10:16.30blindvt`in the end, folks will grab the stable release and then complain if somebody suggests to use trunk
10:17.21blindvt`(if trunk contains a fix for their arch or provides a newer package that was broken for them)
10:17.39Jacmetwell, buildroot trunk hasn't been that stable lately (not saying any names)
10:17.48blindvt`but we can try it anyway
10:18.45blindvt`Jacmet, i'm sure that i may have broken some bits for relatively small timeframes, yea. But what breakages do you refer to, specifically? Just curious..
10:19.59Jacmetblindvt`: ulf has broken stuff relatively often - He does a lot of stuff which is nice, but it does tend to break now and then ..
10:22.48blindvt`Jacmet, i disliked that r19998 very much, fwiw.
10:23.20blindvt`and i dislike that he tends to add kludge and not real fixes
10:23.36blindvt`sometimes he does useful stuff, agree
10:23.59Jacmetexactly
10:24.53Jacmetfocusing a bit on fixing up the packages we have and getting a release out instead of adding new (buggy) packages might be good ..
10:25.42blindvt`agree wholeheartedly
10:27.23Jacmetblindvt`: I unfortunately haven't had much time for buildroot development lately either
10:27.40Jacmetand it seems like it'll be like that for the rest of the year :/
10:34.40blindvt`i can almost hear them starting to complain due to the renaming
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11:25.19Jacmetblindvt`: them?
11:25.50Jacmetblindvt`: what's the point in the s/BR2/BR3/g?
11:33.22blindvt`making it obvious that the old packages are gone. By now i think that keeping 2 is just fine
11:35.11blindvt`updated foo accordingly to remove that clutter
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11:37.33CIA-1003aldot * r20006 10buildroot/ (7 files in 2 dirs): - add a version and display it in the configuration
11:38.21CIA-1003aldot * r20007 10buildroot/toolchain/kernel-headers/Config.in: - bump version
11:42.45Jacmetblindvt`: ok
11:51.16CIA-1003aldot * r20008 10buildroot/.defconfig: - adjust defconfig
11:53.45CIA-1003aldot * r20009 10buildroot/toolchain/ (binutils/Config.in gcc/Config.in uClibc/Config.in): - Schedule removal of ancient versions (configuration part).
11:55.59CIA-1003vda * r20010 10busybox/editors/ed.c: (log message trimmed)
11:55.59CIA-10ed: large cleanup
11:55.59CIA-10function old new delta
11:56.35CIA-1003ulf * r20011 10buildroot/package/mplayer/mplayer-1.0rc1-index.patch: Fix LEGACY dependencies for mplayer
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11:58.35CIA-1003vda * r20012 10busybox/networking/httpd.c: httpd: small auth and IPv6 fixes (Kim B. Heino <Kim.Heino@bluegiga.com>)
12:01.28CIA-1003ulf * r20013 10buildroot/package/mplayer/mplayer.mk: Add source and unpacked targets to mplayer
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12:16.41CIA-1003aldot * r20014 10buildroot/package/ed/ed.mk: - add missing ed-source target.
12:20.40CIA-1003aldot * r20015 10buildroot/package/ (busybox/initramfs.mk gnuconfig/gnuconfig.mk): - add dummy -source targets.
12:26.22Xridehmm when i use buildroot for i386, and would like the box to boot from an usb stick, how to get that done, in binaries i got a linux-kernel and an ext2 rootfs
12:27.00Xridebut shouldn't the kernel be in the rootfs
12:34.12CIA-1003aldot * r20016 10buildroot/package/ (23 files in 22 dirs): - make sure that configure doesn't see a wrong cache
12:34.30blindvt`Xride, you have to cp that manually.
12:35.11blindvt`Xride, if you're lazy, then please provide a knob in the kernel menu that copies the binary to $(TARGET_DIR)/boot/
12:36.02blindvt`and then somebody will want System.map, too and a knob too, for convenience
12:36.50blindvt`Xride, so you might as well ask if the map should also be copied
12:37.39Jacmet--14:35:01--  http://127.0.0.1/unspecified-kernel-headers
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12:37.47Jacmetthat seems broken
12:38.51Xrideblindvt`: i'll look at it then
12:39.12Xrideblindvt`: and how to dd it on to the usb stick?
12:39.41Xrideif i could make it make a .dd.img it would be even more nice (8
12:40.42blindvt`Xride, just like any other disk. partition and format the disk, mount it and tar -C /the/disk -xf the.tar
12:41.35blindvt`Jacmet, what kernel-headers did you select?
12:48.45Jacmetlatest 2.6.22.x which selects 2.6.22.8 which isn't in the kernel-headers-new.mk yet
12:48.50JacmetI'll fix it
12:50.29blindvt`ouch, forgot to add it there.
12:50.35blindvt`Jacmet, TIA
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12:51.18blindvt`there should be a better way than those blocks. At least the version-fiddling should be redone
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12:53.16Xrideblindvt`: oki, how abuot the MBR? via fdisk?
12:54.50CIA-1003ulf * r20017 10buildroot/package/libusb/libusb.mk: Build libusb without annoying tests, breaking the build
12:55.07Jacmetblindvt`: we could simply split the Linux version string into the different parts if it's >= 2.6.20.x and have a generic rule
13:05.58blindvt`Xride, i usually install grub to the corresponding blockdev
13:06.39blindvt`Jacmet, yes. Preferably with make internal facilities
13:10.10Jacmetblindvt`: something like:
13:10.14JacmetLNXVER:=$(subst ., , $(strip $(DEFAULT_KERNEL_HEADERS)))
13:10.14JacmetVERSION:=$(word 1, $(LNXVER))
13:10.14JacmetPATCHLEVEL:=$(word 2, $(LNXVER))
13:10.14JacmetSUBLEVEL:=$(word 3, $(LNXVER))
13:10.15JacmetEXTRAVERSION:=$(word 4, $(LNXVER))
13:13.43JacmetEXTRAVERSION:=$(if $(EXTRAVERSION),.$(EXTRAVERSION),)
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13:32.10CIA-1003jacmet * r20018 10buildroot/toolchain/kernel-headers/kernel-headers-new.makefile: Generalized kernel headers handling for new-style kernels
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13:37.22CIA-1003ulf * r20019 10buildroot/toolchain/uClibc/uClibc-0.9.29-soft-fp.patch: Add soft-fp part of gcclib to uClibc to allow ARM softfloat to complete
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14:13.23CIA-1003ulf * r20020 10buildroot/toolchain/uClibc/uClibc-0.9.29-soft-fp.patch: Remove -lgcc, did no good anyway
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14:42.56Emme_NKHi
14:43.48Emme_NKI have a problem building uclibc. The target fails booting with "Failed to execute /init".
14:44.32Emme_NKand when chrooting into the target I get this: http://www.nopaste.com/p/a5UJuMRcC
14:44.46Emme_NKThe same build works if I use GNU libc instead of uClibc
14:45.27CIA-1003jacmet * r20021 10buildroot/package/mtd/Config.in: Don't limit 2006 version to Atmel targets (why?)
14:47.54neliit says /bin/busybox does not exist
14:48.00neliwhat do you expect from us ?
14:48.02Emme_NKyes, but it is therer
14:48.16neliwrong CPU arch ?
14:48.35Emme_NKbuildhost is amd64, target is i386
14:49.44Emme_NKI tried booting it on qemu and a real machine, and it does not boot
14:51.37Emme_NKFile is ok, permissions should be ok, too: http://www.nopaste.com/p/aRYlht6nK
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15:02.42blindvt`Emme_NK, sounds like you did something wrong wrt libs. is busybox built against uclibc? is libc.so.0 really on the target?
15:03.12Emme_NKyes, links to libuClibc-0.9.29.so
15:05.02Emme_NKis it foolish to chroot from a glibc to an uclibc system?
15:05.17Emme_NK(as long as arch matches)
15:05.53blindvt`Jacmet, thanks!
15:06.28blindvt`Emme_NK, no, it's ok to chroot. Perhaps you don't have a proper shell built and setup?
15:06.45Emme_NKthe same busybox config works fine with glibc
15:06.55Jacmetblindvt`: you're welcome
15:07.07Emme_NKI just exchanged the libc (and built everything including kernel again from scratch)
15:12.11Emme_NKI'll try to build uclibc and busybox unstripped with debug info...
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16:07.37Emme_NKI've built again with debugging enabled... but I don't really know where to start debugging :(
16:20.55blindvt`WTF is r20019 supposed to do?!
16:21.43blindvt`this is so broken
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16:39.24CIA-1003aldot * r20022 10buildroot/toolchain/gcc/Config.in: - build a cross c++ compiler if we're asked to build libstdc++
16:51.12Emme_NKI downloaded and built the dash shell, and it behaves like busybox ("no such file or directory",...). So my problem lies not within busybox...
17:21.34CIA-1003aldot * r20023 10buildroot/toolchain/gcc/Config.in: - fix typo
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18:06.38CIA-1003vda * r20024 10busybox/coreutils/cp.c: cp: -r and -R imply -d (coreutils compat)
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18:35.30CIA-1003vda * r20025 10busybox/ (4 files in 3 dirs): documentation bits in comments, no code changes
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20:57.39nelilol lockfile broken again
20:57.47nelifixed it, svn update, broken again
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21:07.04nelispecifically 'rindex' does not exist
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21:36.29neliI need __UCLIBC_SUSV3_LEGACY_MACROS__
22:19.16blindvt_neli, did lockfile ever work? IIRC i have a pending version-bump that i ment to apply, but didn't have time to test it yet.
22:20.18blindvt_neli, you seem to actually use it, can you bump the version, report any eventual problems to the authors (including the use of deprecated stuff) and send a patch to them (and also to me)?
22:20.56blindvt_CIA-10, good morning sleepy bot
22:21.48blindvt_g'night
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