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| 00:29.47 | Dj_Andy | is here anybody on??? i need help :( |
| 00:32.21 | Dj_Andy | is here anybody on??? i need help :( |
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| 07:22.35 | vrm | hi |
| 08:53.23 | blindvt` | wget -s http://msn.com/index.py |
| 08:53.23 | blindvt` | Connecting to msn.com (207.68.172.246:80) |
| 08:53.23 | blindvt` | wget: bad header line: status_CODE: NotFound |
| 08:53.33 | blindvt` | M$ sucks |
| 09:11.28 | blindvt` | heh, that one is even better (throws a runtime-error): |
| 09:11.48 | blindvt` | www.msn.com and then get /index.py HTTP/1.0 |
| 09:12.48 | blindvt` | sounds like a nice opportunity to stress that machine a bit ;) |
| 10:41.07 | CIA-9 | 03vda * r18346 10busybox/networking/nc_bloaty.c: nc: code shrinkage, bugfixes. -50 bytes code size |
| 11:55.38 | CIA-9 | 03aldot * r18347 10buildroot/package/bash/bash.mk: - using target's LDFLAGS as LDFLAGS_FOR_BUILD is b0rked |
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| 12:51.45 | CIA-9 | 03aldot * r18348 10buildroot/package/libelf/libelf.mk: - bump version. memmove works so let configure know about this fact |
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| 14:21.02 | CIA-9 | 03aldot * r18349 10buildroot/package/libelf/ (Config.in libelf.mk): (log message trimmed) |
| 14:21.02 | CIA-9 | - someone disabled shared lib support without fixing the libelf rule leading to |
| 14:21.02 | CIA-9 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:01.34 | CIA-9 | 03aldot * r18350 10buildroot/package/openssl/openssl.mk: - hit awk on steroids with a clue bait |
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| 16:32.06 | CIA-9 | 03aldot * r18352 10buildroot/package/readline/readline.mk: - commentary typo fix |
| 16:36.49 | CIA-9 | 03aldot * r18353 10buildroot/ (10 files in 9 dirs): - make sure to download fakeroot if needed |
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| 22:07.04 | flyback | canucks! |
| 22:07.04 | flyback | :P |
| 22:07.08 | flyback | no seriously |
| 22:07.26 | flyback | is there any secvurity trade offs with uclibc vs glibc |
| 22:07.32 | flyback | on a platform with a mmu |
| 22:08.01 | solar | there are no known security problems with uClibc. |
| 22:08.26 | solar | now as far as proactive security measures some arches have more advantages than others |
| 22:08.34 | flyback | I know that much |
| 22:08.44 | flyback | oh hey you are the dude that did that exec patch yrs ago right? |
| 22:08.44 | solar | ppc for example recently got (thanks to Jocke) the addition of SecurePLT |
| 22:09.04 | solar | which properly splits up the PT_LOAD segments |
| 22:09.22 | solar | sparc,alpha still suffer from the problem (but we don't care about those arches) |
| 22:09.48 | solar | I think you are thinking of Solar Designer from the OWL project |
| 22:10.44 | flyback | oh |
| 22:10.47 | flyback | then you suck then |
| 22:10.47 | flyback | die |
| 22:10.50 | flyback | j/k |
| 22:10.51 | flyback | :P |
| 22:10.54 | flyback | thx for the info |
| 22:10.58 | flyback | neat |
| 22:11.07 | flyback | I was thinking about using this mostly x86 |
| 22:11.13 | flyback | for a bunch of old pc's I have lying around |
| 22:11.46 | solar | well the best security wise you can do is opt to use a hardened-uclibc-x86 toolchain |
| 22:12.03 | flyback | but I do have some juiceboxes (arm no mmu), a webpal (arm mmu), and palm t5, 2 old palm (m68k no mmu), and a ppc 405gp I will be messing with in the future |
| 22:12.14 | flyback | the sparctation 2 is going in the trash unless someone needs a board |
| 22:12.17 | flyback | worthless |
| 22:12.22 | flyback | pc beats it in every respect |
| 22:12.42 | flyback | it's almost as worthless as my ibm pcjr |
| 22:12.52 | flyback | thx |
| 22:13.08 | flyback | I just wondered if in general if security measures had to be sacrified to get the size down |
| 22:13.09 | flyback | overall |
| 22:13.21 | solar | http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/uclibc/i386/ (prebuilt uclibc stable security based bins) |
| 22:13.29 | flyback | neato thx |
| 22:14.25 | flyback | vmware makes this more possible too :) |
| 22:14.36 | flyback | when I don't have time to setup a lot of native linux boxes |
| 22:14.40 | flyback | or extra ones for cross compiling |
| 22:14.41 | flyback | :) |
| 22:17.27 | flyback | yeah this virtual pc and vmware stuff has completely changed my world |
| 22:17.40 | flyback | I can test pretty much anything I want in minutes instead of hrs |
| 22:27.34 | ashes | Core was generated by `./a.out'. |
| 22:27.34 | ashes | Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. |
| 22:27.34 | ashes | #0 0x080483dd in __stack_chk_fail () at libc/sysdeps/linux/common/ssp.c:107 |
| 22:27.34 | ashes | 107 { |
| 22:28.32 | ashes | when i build a main(){} with a i686-pc-linux-uclibc-gcc and -fstack-protector-all, it segfaults |
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| 22:29.09 | ashes | when i build a main(){} with a i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc and -fstack-protector-all, linked to libuClibc.so, it does an infinite "stack smashing detected" loop |
| 22:29.37 | ashes | if i build with i686-pc-linux-uclibc-gcc and -fstack-protector (without the -all), then its fine |
| 22:30.27 | ashes | ssp.c:107 is actually ssp.c:99, i messed with it a bit so the line numbers are off |
| 22:32.39 | ashes | if i remove the "while(1)" from __stack_chk_fail, then the ssp-test.c built with i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc does not do an infinite loop, and aborts properly. but removing the while(1) causes a compiler warning that a noreturn function has a return |
| 22:33.22 | ashes | removing the while(1) will still cause segfaults with i686-pc-linux-uclibc-gcc's a.out's |
| 22:35.50 | ashes | a.out = main(){} |
| 22:42.14 | solar | ssp + gcc-4.x = blah; |
| 22:42.32 | solar | so many patches to have clean upgrade paths. it sickens us. |
| 22:42.39 | solar | psm has it all working quite nice however |
| 22:43.38 | flyback | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.17 | flyback | I bet uclibc would be nice for that 486-100 I have with 8 meg of ram |
| 22:54.18 | flyback | hmm |