| 00:58.18 | Sgt-Donan | yop |
| 01:01.25 | cromd | Sgt-Donan: although i get a working system, capable of pinging the network, etc, when i boot up i get some VFS and FAT error messages ... do they ring a bell to you at all? |
| 01:10.23 | Sgt-Donan | i don't know |
| 01:10.47 | cromd | thanks anyway. do you do any work on either busybox or uclibc? |
| 01:25.01 | Sgt-Donan | bn |
| 01:25.14 | Sgt-Donan | no cromd |
| 01:25.33 | Sgt-Donan | i just use it |
| 01:25.48 | Sgt-Donan | good night |
| 01:42.56 | CIA-1 | 03andersen * r10058 10buildroot/toolchain/gdb/gdb.mk: Overwrite any existing link should there be one |
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| 02:35.46 | simmo | hi, can i build buildroot using different kernel headers to the ones in my system? eg use 2.6 headers on a 2.4-based system? |
| 02:36.08 | simmo | i don't intend to run the stuff in the 2.4-based environment |
| 02:36.13 | simmo | i'll run it in qemu |
| 02:36.31 | simmo | i guess i can just try and see |
| 02:37.13 | simmo | but i'd like to know for sure, for my docs |
| 02:38.56 | cromd | sorry simmo, i don't know. I'm just about to try using it, do you know what the current stable version is? |
| 02:39.20 | simmo | i know that eric always says to use the latest cvs when i ask about that |
| 02:39.28 | simmo | http://uclibc.org/downloads/snapshots/ |
| 02:39.47 | simmo | but it's been a while since i asked |
| 02:40.21 | cromd | ta simmo |
| 02:40.48 | simmo | erm prolly wrong directory |
| 02:41.12 | simmo | http://buildroot.uclibc.org/downloads/snapshots/ |
| 02:41.14 | cromd | actually, they look a look a mite cutting edge to me |
| 02:41.19 | cromd | aha ... ta |
| 02:42.00 | cromd | how do you differentiate between testing and stable? |
| 02:42.07 | simmo | i don't think they do |
| 02:42.36 | simmo | if you hit problems, discuss in here and/or try again next day etc ;) |
| 02:42.45 | cromd | aha ... allright, i'll get the hang of it, thanks for your advice |
| 02:43.03 | simmo | yeah a bit frustrating .. busybox has stable releases afaik |
| 02:43.32 | simmo | http://buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html |
| 02:43.39 | simmo | docs for buildroot |
| 02:43.40 | cromd | excellent ... i don't want any bleeding edge functionality, just something to get working to start off with |
| 02:43.50 | cromd | thanks simmo |
| 02:44.37 | cromd | have you used that buildroot tool before? |
| 02:45.50 | simmo | not really, i have tried building it, but not really using/testing the end product |
| 02:47.01 | cromd | easy enough to wrap your head around? |
| 02:47.06 | simmo | heh |
| 02:47.22 | simmo | easy to use in a basic way |
| 02:47.44 | SecretSquirrel | I've had a pretty easy time getting buildroot going. |
| 02:47.51 | simmo | and the docs and stuff are quite good now, the make config tool etc |
| 02:47.58 | cromd | "basic way" means creating a root fs? |
| 02:48.02 | simmo | yeah |
| 02:48.16 | simmo | though now there are several options for it, which i have yet to figure out |
| 02:48.37 | simmo | used to be pretty much only one way to run it |
| 02:48.58 | cromd | i tried modifying the tclDisk and found myself out of my depth, so i'm having to find another way. This is just for firewall ramdisk really |
| 02:49.00 | simmo | now it can produce different filesystems etc .. not sure what effects those choices imply |
| 02:50.02 | cromd | SecretSquirrel: do you think buildroot lends itself to linux-on-a-floppy distros? |
| 02:50.29 | simmo | it's almost made for it |
| 02:50.43 | cromd | thanks simmo, i'll start looking at it, give it a go |
| 02:50.46 | SecretSquirrel | I think it would greatly facilitate someone building a very cut down system with usable functionality, so yes. |
| 02:51.10 | SecretSquirrel | You can have everything but the kernel built automagically in one go. |
| 02:51.57 | cromd | that's what i'm after, just a pretty full busybox and the libs/scripts to support it |
| 02:53.43 | SecretSquirrel | I'm using it to build toolchains and filesystems for an embedded system, so I would expect you should able to do pretty good with a floppy |
| 02:54.45 | SecretSquirrel | Built a complete image, kernel and filesystem in 1142808 bytes. |
| 02:54.54 | SecretSquirrel | It's pretty cut down though. |
| 02:55.03 | cromd | oneday i'd like to find a cheap to manufacture, cheap to run architecture to run it on, but floppy will do me for now :) |
| 02:55.15 | cromd | that's pretty cool :) |
| 03:04.35 | simmo | SecretSquirrel, do you know what 'board support options' means in the config? |
| 03:05.12 | simmo | it offers 'linux' but i don't know what this means? 'board' to me means 'board' so what linux board is there? |
| 03:06.03 | simmo | do these select groups of options in the package selection perhaps? looks that way |
| 03:08.45 | SecretSquirrel | simmo: I'm assuming it allows for customization of the system for certain development boards, but I really don't know. I've always just chosen "linux" |
| 03:14.00 | simmo | yes, perhaps it does that also |
| 03:14.12 | simmo | but it provides what seems to be 'group selections' |
| 03:14.25 | simmo | 'generic development system' 'generic firewall' etc |
| 03:14.46 | simmo | then you can go back to the package selection set and customise |
| 03:14.58 | simmo | so provides a quick way to set a basic set of choices |
| 03:15.16 | cromd | the snapshot link on buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html generates an error and the snapshots at uclibc.org/snapshots doesn't seem to include a buildroot snapshot ... where else can you get it? |
| 03:15.39 | simmo | use the most recent of the snapshots listed |
| 03:15.47 | simmo | which is what that link should point to ... |
| 03:16.15 | simmo | erm |
| 03:16.28 | cromd | but they're titled uClibc-somedate ... is the buildroot snapshot included in those? |
| 03:16.29 | simmo | the second of the two urls i gave you http://buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html |
| 03:16.39 | simmo | s/second/third/ |
| 03:16.48 | simmo | http://buildroot.uclibc.org/downloads/snapshots/ |
| 03:16.52 | simmo | s/third/second/ |
| 03:16.58 | simmo | ignore this one: http://uclibc.org/downloads/snapshots/ |
| 03:17.07 | cromd | yes, that's what i'm looking at ... i think |
| 03:17.18 | simmo | yeah i made a typo :) |
| 03:17.27 | simmo | that's just the uclibc package by itself, not buildroot |
| 03:17.40 | cromd | tada! :) |
| 03:17.44 | simmo | not much use unless you are hardcore developer and know how to build a toolchain |
| 03:17.44 | cromd | thanks |
| 03:17.48 | simmo | :) |
| 03:17.56 | simmo | sorry i didn't make it clearer earlier |
| 03:17.59 | cromd | just take the latest one? |
| 03:18.02 | simmo | yeah |
| 03:18.07 | cromd | ta |
| 03:22.42 | cromd | allright, do i need to download source for busybox and uclibc before i use buildroot (i've been using other's precompiled binaries 'till now) |
| 03:23.02 | SecretSquirrel | nope, buildroot will pull all the needed tarballs for you. |
| 03:23.16 | cromd | wow ... i half-hoped ... that's fantastic :) |
| 03:27.14 | cromd | blast, have to install ncurses, on a woody system ... i've done it before, it's a complete pain in the neck |
| 03:32.26 | cromd | no, i've got ncurses ... make menuconfig can't seem to find my Ncurses libraries, is that a common problem? |
| 03:38.14 | cromd | is that just a library naming issue? |
| 03:46.43 | cromd | is there a way to work out what ncurses library buildroot is looking for? |
| 03:48.48 | cromd | or |
| 03:48.57 | cromd | or a better channel to ask such questions? |
| 06:46.03 | CIA-1 | 03andersen * r10059 10buildroot/toolchain/gdb/ (5 files in 5 dirs): update gdb a bit. remove support for ancient versions. |
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| 10:45.37 | GNUisNotUnix | is there any easy way to build a toolchain with buildroot and uclibc 0.9.12? |
| 10:47.13 | simmo | http://buildroot.uclibc.org/buildroot.html |
| 10:47.53 | simmo | hmm |
| 10:48.47 | simmo | ermm sorry i dunno what versoin buildroot uses if you don't use the snapshot |
| 10:48.58 | simmo | <-- newb |
| 10:52.23 | GNUisNotUnix | 0.9.26 or 27 I think |
| 10:54.19 | GNUisNotUnix | 0.9.27 |
| 11:08.43 | simmo | oh you want old? |
| 11:08.49 | GNUisNotUnix | yep |
| 11:08.51 | simmo | yuk :( |
| 11:08.53 | simmo | ;) |
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| 12:04.12 | GNUisNotUnix | anyone knows a way to have 2 uclibc's in one system? I want to install a new uclibc and make new compiled applications use the new uclibc and leave the old applications use the old uclibc |
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| 14:02.02 | tiny | Hi! Where can I read about multilib? I'm building a system with buildroot and it's asking me if I want multilib enabled. |
| 14:39.58 | solar | multilib is when you have a 64 bit system and your building 32 & 64 bit bins and libs |
| 14:40.09 | solar | chances are you do not need this. |
| 14:47.43 | ashes | what about for installing two versions of gcc, and both to /usr ? |
| 14:48.31 | solar | what about it? that would fail |
| 14:49.13 | solar | multilib systems use /usr/lib /usr/lib64 etc |
| 14:50.26 | solar | in the case of buildroot I think the MULTILIB use flag only signals gcc to build support for building multilib |
| 14:50.34 | solar | so it supports -m32 -m64 |
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| 16:59.39 | mjn3 | morning all |
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| 17:17.57 | solar | ls morn mjn |
| 17:18.11 | solar | skip the ls |
| 17:18.19 | mjn3 | heh |
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| 17:24.13 | solar | looks like we might not have to patch up binutils anymore. |
| 17:24.15 | solar | http://sources.redhat.com/ml/binutils/2005-03/msg00705.html |
| 17:24.19 | solar | incase you did not see. |
| 17:24.44 | mjn3 | saw that. cool |
| 17:24.46 | solar | they bastarized it a little from -linux-uclibc to -linux-* |
| 17:37.24 | mjn3 | on a related note, i'm still concerned about how lt_cv_file_magic_test_file is set in the binutils/gcc configure stuff |
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| 23:06.56 | telmich | hello |
| 23:07.06 | telmich | how to programm libcrypt? are there any manuals? |
| 23:16.14 | mjn3 | telmich: man 3 setkey |
| 23:16.58 | telmich | thanks |
| 23:28.42 | Sgt-Donan | re |