| 00:38.35 | GyrosGeier | hrm |
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| 03:30.44 | null | hello |
| 03:31.14 | ashes | binutils-2.15.96 is out as of march 8. looks like 2.16 will be out soon |
| 03:31.22 | null | any one know how to add search path for the includes ? when compiling with uclibc ? |
| 03:31.26 | null | heya ashes |
| 03:32.03 | SpanKY | ashes: it's a very snapshot-snapshot |
| 03:32.12 | SpanKY | 2.16 is scheduled for april i believe |
| 03:32.33 | null | any ideas ? |
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| 03:33.55 | SpanKY | null: -I |
| 03:34.21 | null | ahh will give dat a try thanks SpanKY |
| 03:45.29 | ashes | 2.15 was botched. released too late and had too many incomplete untested features. 2.16 should be alright |
| 03:57.39 | Gnat42 | hello |
| 03:57.47 | Gnat42 | I am trying to add a package to buildroot |
| 03:57.51 | Gnat42 | DirectFB to be exact |
| 03:58.05 | Gnat42 | yesterday I learned not to use ldd as it is tied to the host compiler chain |
| 03:58.14 | Gnat42 | today, using readelf -d |
| 03:58.26 | Gnat42 | I'm noticing that some of the libraries created |
| 03:58.32 | Gnat42 | reference the correct libc.so.0 |
| 03:58.39 | Gnat42 | and some reference libc.so.6 |
| 03:58.42 | Gnat42 | from the host. |
| 03:59.18 | null | Gnat42, well kool, i actually wanted to know the equivalent of ldd |
| 03:59.31 | Gnat42 | glad I could be of help |
| 03:59.44 | Gnat42 | the exact command is readelf -d path/to/so | grep NEEDED |
| 03:59.58 | Gnat42 | to find the external referenced libraries |
| 04:00.11 | Gnat42 | I learned it the *hard* way of submitting a bug report |
| 04:00.17 | Gnat42 | and then looking like a dweeb |
| 04:00.25 | Gnat42 | as it wasn't anywhere near accurate. |
| 04:00.35 | null | well sure every one goes thro dat stage |
| 04:01.01 | Gnat42 | yes |
| 04:01.06 | Gnat42 | doesn't make it fun though |
| 04:01.07 | Gnat42 | ;) |
| 04:01.16 | Gnat42 | I'm confused about this one though |
| 04:01.23 | Gnat42 | some of the files created are proper |
| 04:01.25 | Gnat42 | others not |
| 04:02.03 | null | Gnat42, but what about binaries ? they should be able to show the libs linked to them using readelf ? |
| 04:02.30 | Gnat42 | well I'm compiling DirectFB |
| 04:02.39 | Gnat42 | it creates a number of .so shared libraries |
| 04:02.51 | null | ahh well i am compiling uclinux :-) |
| 04:03.04 | Gnat42 | when I run readelf -d .so, some of them show that they need the hosts libc instead of the target |
| 04:03.11 | Gnat42 | oddly enough though, some |
| 04:03.13 | Gnat42 | don't |
| 04:03.20 | Gnat42 | this is using the buildroot system. |
| 04:03.25 | Gnat42 | where is uclinux? |
| 04:03.56 | Gnat42 | ah |
| 04:04.01 | Gnat42 | uclinux.org |
| 04:04.03 | null | ahh uclinux.org i think |
| 04:04.04 | null | heh |
| 04:04.11 | Gnat42 | I have an MMU |
| 04:04.21 | null | good |
| 04:04.23 | Gnat42 | ah well |
| 04:04.31 | Gnat42 | back to scratching my head |
| 04:06.49 | null | me 2 :-) c ya buddy |
| 04:16.54 | Gnat42 | if a package in buildroot uses libtool to deal with the compile & linking |
| 04:17.15 | Gnat42 | does there need to be anything in particular passed to configure to make sure it uses the cross compilers |
| 04:17.28 | Gnat42 | besides the usual --host --build --target ? |
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| 04:35.05 | SpanKY | no, libtool should do the right thing |
| 04:37.10 | Gnat42 | any reasons you can think of that some of the libraries reference libc.so.6 ? |
| 04:37.37 | Gnat42 | but most reference libc.so.0 |
| 04:42.32 | solar | yeah miscompile failed to use the correct -I -L options |
| 04:46.12 | Gnat42 | alright |
| 04:46.29 | Gnat42 | I passed it a -I$(STAGING_DIR) |
| 04:46.34 | Gnat42 | in the CFLAGS section |
| 04:46.44 | Gnat42 | but I guess I need to add the -L option |
| 04:49.40 | Gnat42 | thanks |
| 05:26.21 | SpanKY | andersee: see this before ? |
| 05:26.22 | SpanKY | ../../include/bits/uClibc_page.h:24:1: warning: "PAGE_SHIFT" redefined |
| 05:26.32 | SpanKY | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.32 | SpanKY | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:26.32 | SpanKY | ../../include/asm/page.h:8:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition |
| 05:26.37 | SpanKY | i snipped some stuff there ... |
| 05:34.09 | ashes | is that util-linux? |
| 05:34.24 | ashes | im thinking PAGE_SIZE i think |
| 05:34.28 | SpanKY | that's uclibc :p |
| 05:34.41 | ashes | ah |
| 06:10.09 | Gnat42 | hello once again |
| 06:10.22 | Gnat42 | this should be my last question for a bit |
| 06:10.31 | Gnat42 | I created a target/device/Via/epia-mii |
| 06:10.33 | Gnat42 | directory |
| 06:10.38 | Gnat42 | with the required files |
| 06:10.45 | Gnat42 | so as to be able to build a kernel |
| 06:10.50 | Gnat42 | there is only one patch |
| 06:11.07 | Gnat42 | which is in the kernel-patches directory of epia-mii |
| 06:11.14 | Gnat42 | unfortunately try as I might |
| 06:11.19 | Gnat42 | it doesn't patch |
| 06:11.42 | Gnat42 | the linux.mk file is patterned after the Soekris/net4521 |
| 06:11.47 | Gnat42 | and I see that it does |
| 06:11.56 | Gnat42 | mkdir -p package/linux/kernel-patches |
| 06:11.56 | Gnat42 | toolchain/patch-kernel.sh $(LINUX_DIR) package/linux/kernel-patches |
| 06:12.14 | solar | I get all happy when somebody says soekris |
| 06:12.33 | Gnat42 | which seems a bit odd, as I don't see anywhere the patches copied to the kernel-patches dir |
| 06:12.40 | Gnat42 | oh and again this is buildroot |
| 06:12.46 | Gnat42 | if it wasn't already evident |
| 06:12.52 | Gnat42 | you like soekris? |
| 06:12.58 | Gnat42 | or just the pronounciation? |
| 06:13.15 | solar | correct I like the 45xx series |
| 06:13.53 | Gnat42 | do you like it enough to know where I should look to know what is happening? |
| 06:14.00 | Gnat42 | ;) |
| 06:14.23 | solar | whats not happening? |
| 06:14.34 | Gnat42 | the patch isn't being applied to the kernel sources. |
| 06:14.42 | Gnat42 | this isn't the soekris itself |
| 06:14.46 | solar | which patch? |
| 06:14.49 | Gnat42 | but patterned pretty closely |
| 06:14.54 | Gnat42 | viafb.diff |
| 06:14.58 | solar | what dir is the patch in |
| 06:15.37 | Gnat42 | target/device/Via/epia-mii/kernel-patches |
| 06:15.43 | Gnat42 | viafb_03.diff |
| 06:15.45 | Gnat42 | to be exact |
| 06:18.01 | solar | this is new |
| 06:18.08 | Gnat42 | I'm adding it |
| 06:18.14 | Gnat42 | haven't submitted the patch |
| 06:18.23 | Gnat42 | as this last part is not *working* as it should |
| 06:18.27 | Gnat42 | it compiles |
| 06:18.30 | Gnat42 | and everything |
| 06:18.31 | Gnat42 | is good |
| 06:18.38 | Gnat42 | but doesn't enable my module. |
| 06:19.18 | solar | hey target/device/Via/epia-mii/kernel-patches/ |
| 06:19.23 | solar | ls target/device/Via/epia-mii/kernel-patches/ |
| 06:19.44 | Gnat42 | you want `ls target....` ? |
| 06:20.12 | solar | I want you to show me where the viafb.diff is |
| 06:20.26 | Gnat42 | k |
| 06:20.37 | Gnat42 | ls target/device/Via/epia-mii/kernel-patches/ |
| 06:20.45 | Gnat42 | = viafb_03.diff |
| 06:20.53 | solar | ok thats wrong |
| 06:21.03 | Gnat42 | wrong file name? |
| 06:21.52 | solar | mv viafb_03.diff 99_viafb_03.patch ; bzip2 99_viafb_03.patch |
| 06:22.47 | solar | the patching is done in order by numeric and all patches are bzip2 |
| 06:23.03 | Gnat42 | oh |
| 06:23.07 | solar | notice how they are in the Soekris/kernel-patches subdir |
| 06:23.09 | Gnat42 | didn't know it mattered. |
| 06:23.10 | Gnat42 | yes |
| 06:23.16 | Gnat42 | didn't think to try it like that |
| 06:23.19 | Gnat42 | lets see now... |
| 06:23.23 | solar | you pretty much want those patches also |
| 06:23.44 | solar | mix and match erik patchsets. alot little goodies in there |
| 06:24.01 | Gnat42 | oh? |
| 06:24.02 | ashes | there's a new patch for shadow |
| 06:24.13 | ashes | lastlog doesn't work for console |
| 06:24.18 | solar | busybox shadow? |
| 06:24.34 | Gnat42 | are these kernel patches or other patches? |
| 06:24.34 | solar | hey do you use java? |
| 06:24.35 | ashes | http://cvs.pld.org.pl/shadow/libmisc/log.c?r1=1.7&r2=1.8 |
| 06:24.59 | ashes | no, shadow-utils. it could be possible that busybox is affected |
| 06:25.12 | Gnat42 | I don't use java |
| 06:25.16 | Gnat42 | though I can |
| 06:25.20 | Gnat42 | but don't need it |
| 06:25.52 | ashes | logins via tty are fine, but when logging in to a console lastlog doesn't work |
| 06:26.06 | ashes | its easy to check |
| 06:26.20 | solar | thanks ashes |
| 06:35.26 | Gnat42 | couple more questions |
| 06:35.36 | Gnat42 | lots of his patches are for kernel 2.4 |
| 06:35.41 | Gnat42 | I'm using 2.6.11.2 |
| 06:36.00 | Gnat42 | any known problems? |
| 06:36.32 | Gnat42 | and q2 must I have a kernel name -erik (or whatever) after patching? |
| 06:36.43 | Gnat42 | or can I leave the after patch name the same as the start? |
| 06:37.40 | solar | when people start talking about kernel 2.6 I lose whatever happiness that I had from thinking about soekris boxes being deployed |
| 06:37.45 | Gnat42 | lol |
| 06:37.47 | Gnat42 | why? |
| 06:38.02 | solar | incomming patch rate of the 2.6.x kernel |
| 06:38.06 | Gnat42 | oh? |
| 06:38.12 | Gnat42 | many patches |
| 06:38.14 | solar | it's more of a dev thing than production thing |
| 06:38.21 | Gnat42 | I wasn't aware. |
| 06:38.21 | kergoth | not a fan of the new development model, i take it |
| 06:38.42 | solar | it's gear more towards development which is great |
| 06:38.45 | Gnat42 | I figured that since it was in use in some of the *big* name distros it had stabalized |
| 06:38.50 | solar | I'm geared more towards security |
| 06:39.04 | Gnat42 | not to start a distro war or anything |
| 06:39.38 | Gnat42 | so it is a personal belief that ' so many patches so fast = not mature' type thing? |
| 06:39.48 | kergoth | it has nothing to do with maturity. |
| 06:40.47 | SpanKY | soooooooooooolar |
| 06:40.54 | SpanKY | answer my Q in #-embedded |
| 06:41.05 | Gnat42 | I'm a little at a loss as to why then |
| 06:41.16 | Gnat42 | I thought 2.6 was stable enough |
| 06:41.23 | Gnat42 | is there something I should look at to change my mind? |
| 07:42.18 | Zta | /home/sth/au/buildroot/build_arm/linux-2.4.28-pre4-erik/include/asm/rwsem.h:215: error: unknown register name `edx' in `asm' |
| 07:43.12 | Zta | Then I get two assembler messages from standardinput that are a bad instruction: `movl %cr0,r3' and `movl r3,%cr0' |
| 07:43.32 | Zta | I get this error when compiling the linux package from buildroot. |
| 07:43.54 | Zta | Perhaps I should try latest buildroot from svn |
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| 08:13.30 | Zta | /bin/sh: line 1: ./ntpdc-layout: cannot execute binary file |
| 08:14.05 | Zta | I've been getting this error for the last three versions of buildroot, I've used =\ |
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| 09:46.39 | Zta | MAN it's difficult to make buildroot compile the linux kernel! |
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| 10:28.25 | Zta | HAH! |
| 10:28.54 | Zta | I think I've fixed a bug in the package named "linux" that compiles the kernel. |
| 10:29.16 | Zta | Prior to configuring the kernel, the linux.mk script does this: |
| 10:29.16 | Zta | $(SED) "s,^CROSS_COMPILE.*,CROSS_COMPILE=$(KERNEL_CROSS),g;" $(LINUXAU_DIR)/Makefile |
| 10:29.27 | Zta | But it forgot to do this: |
| 10:29.28 | Zta | $(SED) "s,^ARCH.*,ARCH=$(LINUXAU_KARCH),g;" $(LINUXAU_DIR)/Makefile |
| 10:29.37 | Zta | Now it compiles =) |
| 10:29.52 | Zta | I'm bad.. |
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| 10:45.17 | Zta | It is possible to store a uClibc.config and have buildroot copy that to .config and make oldconfig before compiling uClibc? Similiar to how it's done with busybox and busybox.config? |
| 10:46.01 | Zta | Ah.. buildroot/toolchain/uClibc/uClibc.config |
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| 13:47.58 | rfs | why is it that when you email someone to tell them their message was mangled badly by their mailer, do they assume that you want to help them with their problem...? |
| 13:49.03 | rfs | well, at least the re-posted message was not mangled this time ;) |
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| 18:04.44 | Sgt-Donan | yop |
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| 19:38.30 | Gnat42 | anyone have problems building iptables with binutils 2.15.94.0.2/gcc-3.4.3 using buildroot? |
| 19:38.33 | Gnat42 | I get |
| 19:38.46 | Gnat42 | extensions/libipt_DNAT.c:16: error: field `mr' has incomplete type |
| 19:38.47 | Gnat42 | extensions/libipt_DNAT.c:232: error: invalid application of `sizeof' to incomplete type `ip_nat_multi_range_compat' |
| 19:38.47 | Gnat42 | extensions/libipt_DNAT.c:233: error: invalid application of `sizeof' to incomplete type `ip_nat_multi_range_compat' |
| 19:46.46 | mjn3-work | what kernel headers? |
| 19:52.41 | Sgt-Donan | andersee are u here ? |
| 19:53.54 | Sgt-Donan | or maybe someone else could help me |
| 19:54.31 | vapier | no one can help you if you dont ask a question |
| 19:55.08 | andersee | Gnat42: I know what that is |
| 19:55.13 | Gnat42 | oh? |
| 19:55.28 | Gnat42 | kernel headers 2.6.11 |
| 19:55.29 | andersee | Gnat42: Its a bug in the upstream linux-libc-headers package |
| 19:55.34 | Gnat42 | okay |
| 19:55.43 | Gnat42 | is it related to binutils? |
| 19:55.50 | Gnat42 | or just the libc-headers? |
| 19:55.52 | Sgt-Donan | i want to cross compile my m68k kernel on an x86, i have compiled a cross-m68k-gcc with crosstool at the end of the compilation it gives me error |
| 19:56.11 | Sgt-Donan | can i post the error ? |
| 19:56.18 | Sgt-Donan | ~6 lines |
| 19:56.23 | andersee | linux/include/linux/netfilter_ipv4/ip_nat.h is missing the definition for 'struct ip_nat_multi_range_compat' |
| 19:56.39 | Gnat42 | so not related at all to binutils |
| 19:56.43 | Gnat42 | do we have a patch? |
| 19:56.50 | andersee | right. The kernel headers needs a patch |
| 19:58.30 | andersee | Gnat42: http://codepoet.org/linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.0.patch |
| 20:00.01 | Sgt-Donan | (with the buildroot m68k toolchain i get the same error) |
| 20:00.38 | vapier | the kernel fails to build ? |
| 20:00.43 | Sgt-Donan | yes |
| 20:00.45 | vapier | which version ? |
| 20:00.55 | Sgt-Donan | 2.4.28 |
| 20:01.15 | Gnat42 | andersee: thanks, I copied it to toolchain/kernel-headers/linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.0.patch |
| 20:01.26 | vapier | hmm, i know mainline 2.6 for m68k does not work ... you need to get cvs work from the m68k website |
| 20:01.28 | Gnat42 | will it apply automagically? |
| 20:01.37 | vapier | you should try going to the m68k website and d/ling their 2.4 cvs tree |
| 20:01.58 | solar | how do we feel about supporting __secure_getenv() ? |
| 20:02.04 | Gnat42 | seems like it should |
| 20:02.10 | Sgt-Donan | of the kernel ? |
| 20:02.25 | vapier | Sgt-Donan: what else would i be talking about :P |
| 20:02.36 | Sgt-Donan | yes but i could be the toolchain |
| 20:02.41 | Sgt-Donan | it |
| 20:02.55 | Sgt-Donan | ok i try |
| 20:03.00 | solar | solar designer keeps suggesting that upstream use __secure_getenv() on any program thats +s. We can't wrapper to simple getenv() cuz it would lower security |
| 20:04.04 | Sgt-Donan | vapier i have linux kernel binary for my board how does they compile it successfull |
| 20:04.33 | Sgt-Donan | on a 25Mhz 68040 it could take 1 day for compile kernel |
| 20:05.03 | vapier | i didnt say build it natively ... |
| 20:05.10 | vapier | i got a 33mhz 68040 :p |
| 20:05.19 | CIA-1 | 03andersen * r10057 10buildroot/toolchain/kernel-headers/linux-libc-headers-2.6.11.0.patch: |
| 20:05.19 | CIA-1 | Add missing definition for 'struct ip_nat_multi_range_compat' so |
| 20:05.19 | CIA-1 | that iptables can compile |
| 20:06.39 | Gnat42 | yeah |
| 20:06.43 | Gnat42 | just testing the patch right now |
| 20:06.50 | Gnat42 | supplied by andersee |
| 20:06.54 | Gnat42 | oh |
| 20:08.10 | Sgt-Donan | vapier you have ? |
| 20:08.23 | Sgt-Donan | but how do you get it work ? |
| 20:08.29 | vapier | magic ? |
| 20:08.41 | Sgt-Donan | lol |
| 20:09.19 | Sgt-Donan | i know that linux is magic but it doesn't make all itself |
| 20:10.23 | vapier | sure it does |
| 20:10.31 | vapier | that's the magical part |
| 20:11.05 | Sgt-Donan | lol |
| 20:11.08 | Sgt-Donan | sure |
| 20:12.09 | vapier | iiiiif you want you can pmsg me the error |
| 20:12.18 | vapier | i'll tell you if it's the fault of your toolchain or the kernel |
| 20:12.58 | Sgt-Donan | ok |
| 20:15.17 | vapier | hmm ive seen that once before |
| 20:15.22 | vapier | i dont remember where though :) |
| 20:15.59 | vapier | bbl |
| 20:16.22 | Sgt-Donan | k |
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| 22:50.43 | Sgt-Donan | bn |
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| 23:09.25 | jockeHome2 | andersee, how do you feel about a little testing? see the path I just sent on uclibc list |
| 23:10.16 | andersee | jockeHome2: just saw the patch |
| 23:10.39 | andersee | I do need to do some testing tonight, so I'll give it a try |
| 23:10.50 | jockeHome2 | thanks |
| 23:11.05 | jockeHome2 | fingers crossed :) |
| 23:11.12 | andersee | :) |
| 23:11.21 | andersee | uhoh |
| 23:11.25 | andersee | baby peter just woke up |
| 23:11.32 | jockeHome2 | :( |
| 23:12.22 | jockeHome2 | try using the silencer :) |
| 23:13.35 | solar | hey we can save 48 bytes per executable |
| 23:13.37 | solar | http://rafb.net/paste/results/AWt3ya87.txt |
| 23:13.45 | Gnat42 | andersee: there is still a problem with the linux libc kernel headers 2.6.1 |
| 23:13.47 | solar | on systems not needing java support |
| 23:13.48 | Gnat42 | 2.6.11 |
| 23:14.53 | Gnat42 | the file kernel-headers.mk tries patching toolchain/patch-kernel.sh $(LINUX_HEADERS_DIR) toolchain/kernel-headers linux-libc-headers-$(LINUX_VERSION)-\*.patch |
| 23:15.01 | Gnat42 | and you named the file .patch |
| 23:15.14 | Gnat42 | don't know if you'd rather remove the last - before the \*.patch |
| 23:15.21 | Gnat42 | or rename the headers patch |
| 23:16.57 | jockeHome2 | solar, you up for a little testing? |
| 23:19.52 | solar | new ldso stuff? |
| 23:20.46 | jockeHome2 | yup |
| 23:20.52 | jockeHome2 | see uclibc list |
| 23:21.55 | jockeHome2 | possibly enable ldso debug first, early as well |
| 23:27.12 | solar | hey sorry about that |
| 23:27.33 | solar | not sure I can do that kinda testing cuz it would take a full bootstrap |
| 23:28.28 | JockeHome | Why, you just need to rebuild ldso&libdl |
| 23:29.11 | solar | did you not say it broke the ABI and the existing bins would break? |
| 23:29.58 | JockeHome | ahh, that was the previous patch, but I modified it not to break anything yet |
| 23:31.49 | solar | I can test in about an hr |
| 23:31.54 | solar | will you still be here? |
| 23:32.36 | JockeHome | maybe, it is getting late. |
| 23:34.07 | JockeHome | Just to be clear, the path to test is "[PATCH] Optimize relocation" |
| 23:34.18 | JockeHome | s/path/patch |
| 23:35.28 | solar | that depends on SVN current or 0.9.27 |
| 23:35.53 | solar | I can test 0.9.27 (mixed with gentoo patches pretty easy) but + cvs/svn takes a little more work. |
| 23:37.05 | JockeHome | it is against current :( |
| 23:37.36 | JockeHome | whats arches do you have? |