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04:23.37 | bug1 | i have some sha1sum/md5sum changes to go in in a minute |
04:24.06 | bug1 | not messing with algorithms though, jsut merging everything else |
04:35.53 | bug1 | coreutils md5sum and cha1sum are obsolete now, i will wait till i speak to Erik before removing them, incase he wants to keep this history. |
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07:17.23 | mjn3 | Fozzie: i haven't built perl in a long time. looking at a miniperl i built in june, size of miniperl was 830k text |
07:18.08 | Fozzie | so I'm probly including some things that I don't necesarily need, perhaps? |
07:18.40 | Fozzie | I'll see if I can find that post about miniperl and see if he detailed out his config a bit. |
07:19.07 | Fozzie | I don't need a shell on my box, so I was hoping I could use perl to replace most of the console text tools. |
07:20.47 | mjn3 | perl is pretty hefty. even miniperl is likely bigger than a bull busybox build |
07:21.02 | mjn3 | s/bull/full/ |
07:21.36 | Fozzie | yeah, but if I write my application in perl as well, I think it might be worth it. |
07:21.49 | Fozzie | better than writing the application in shell script anyway hehe |
07:22.13 | Fozzie | Thanks for the ideas, I'm going to try some stuff.. I like what you're doing with uclibc. keep up the good work :) |
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10:33.49 | mr_claus | hi, i have trouble with hylafax, it cannot initialize a ttyS0 device, could it be a problem of uclibc? |
10:34.40 | mr_claus | the strace stop with that command --> select(6, [5], [], [], {29, 999687} |
10:35.29 | tahorg | mr_claus: what do you mean by 'it cannot initialize' |
10:35.33 | tahorg | it blocks ? |
10:35.39 | mr_claus | it cannot access the device i think |
10:36.08 | mr_claus | "initialize" is the message in /var/log/messages |
10:37.17 | mr_claus | should i paste some more of the trace? perhaps a few lines up to the select? |
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11:01.58 | andersee | mr_claus: which strace version, which architecture, which kernel, which uClibc version? |
11:04.46 | mr_claus | strace: 4.5, arch: i386, kernel: 2.4.22, uclibc: 0.9.17 (sorry for old release, i waited for 0.9.22) |
11:07.31 | andersee | mr_claus: hmm. It is hard for me to support an 11 month old version. There have been 5 releases since then... |
11:07.50 | andersee | mr_claus: I have enough trouble remembering what happened last week |
11:07.54 | andersee | :-) |
11:09.29 | andersee | back in a sec |
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11:13.17 | mr_claus | yes, of course, i know it's better so develop new things as to support this old version, so i know that you don't can spend any time in 0.9.17 |
11:13.23 | mr_claus | i will update to 0.9.22 soon |
11:13.58 | mr_claus | was there something changed in the select since 0.9.17? |
11:20.46 | mr_claus | andersee: is the buildroot ready for 0.9.22? |
11:21.02 | mr_claus | can i only change the version? |
11:21.09 | andersee | mr_claus: it works for me... |
11:21.56 | mr_claus | ok, i will start, do i have only to change the uclibc.mk? |
11:23.42 | andersee | umm |
11:23.45 | andersee | mr_claus: no |
11:24.08 | andersee | mr_claus: buildroot has changed quite a lot since 0.9.17... |
11:24.30 | andersee | recently there have been a lot of large changes to the build system |
11:27.12 | mr_claus | ok, i will see if i try to compile, is there a toolchain available too? |
11:27.26 | mr_claus | i want only build a i386 development environment for a i386 plattform |
11:28.45 | andersee | mr_claus: There is a pre-build i386 dev system with uClibc 0.9.22 on the website already |
11:28.57 | mr_claus | ok |
11:28.57 | andersee | you should be able to just use that |
11:52.00 | mr_claus | you mean that dev-system? --> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/uclibc/root_fs_i386.bz2 |
11:52.17 | mr_claus | is it with 0.9.22 or with a uclibc snapshot? |
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12:18.53 | andersee | mr_claus: I rebuilt it with 0.9.22 |
12:19.08 | andersee | mr_claus: It is built using buildroot... |
12:20.34 | mr_claus | andersee: do you built it with the toolchain or without the toolchain? |
12:21.32 | andersee | mr_claus: Perhaps I misunderstand your question. buildroot builds its own toolchain. |
12:21.50 | andersee | mr_claus: buildroot uses that toolchain to build root_fs. |
12:22.09 | andersee | mr_claus: it also cross compiles a toolchain |
12:22.19 | mr_claus | andersee: in 0.9.17 there were two possibilies i think |
12:22.26 | andersee | mr_claus: and that cross compiled toolchain is within root_fs |
12:22.34 | mr_claus | andersee: thats the reason of my question |
12:23.23 | mr_claus | ok, and i have to choice to build a toolchain with or without uclibc |
12:24.52 | andersee | mr_claus: here is the current Makefile: http://www.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/Makefile?rev=1.62&view=markup |
12:25.06 | andersee | mr_claus: that tells you what choices you have |
12:31.07 | mr_claus | andersee: hmm, uclibc ask me about big_endian or little_endian, which i should use? |
12:31.29 | andersee | what arch? i386? |
12:31.42 | andersee | x86 is little endian |
12:31.52 | mr_claus | ok, thx |
12:39.16 | mr_claus | hmm, why uclibc ask me that things, if i use buildroot |
12:40.02 | mr_claus | perhaps the config-files has changed after 0.9.21 |
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12:49.22 | mr_claus | andersee: i got following message while using buildroot |
12:49.24 | mr_claus | + ./extra/scripts/fix_includes.sh -k /mnt/daten/projects/lfs-project/buildroot/build_i386/linux -t |
12:49.24 | mr_claus | usage: fix_includes.sh -k KERNEL_SOURCE_DIRECTORY -t TARGET_ARCH |
13:09.39 | mr_claus | andersee: i cannot explain why, but buildroot dont run out of the box, not with uclibc-0.9.21 and not with 0.9.22 |
13:09.59 | mr_claus | with 0.9.21 i got : |
13:10.01 | mr_claus | can't find file extra/Configs/Config. |
13:10.01 | mr_claus | make[1]: *** [include/bits/uClibc_config.h] Error 1 |
13:10.27 | mr_claus | with 0.9.22 the TARGET_ARCH isn't set while running fax_includes.sh |
13:11.03 | andersee | mr_claus: re 0.9.21 -- of course current buildroot doesn;t work |
13:11.20 | andersee | mr_claus: re 0.9.22, as I said, it works for me. |
13:11.43 | andersee | mr_claus: perhaps you have changed things locally? |
13:12.41 | mr_claus | andersee: i didn't change anything i think |
13:13.09 | mr_claus | i changed only all 0.9.21 to 0.9.22 in make/uclibc.mk |
13:13.32 | mr_claus | USE_UCLIBC_TOOLCHAIN:=true |
13:13.49 | mr_claus | GCC_2_95_TOOLCHAIN:=false |
13:13.55 | mr_claus | USE_UCLIBC_SNAPSHOT:=false |
13:14.11 | mr_claus | ENABLE_LOCALE:=true |
13:14.22 | andersee | mr_claus: I dunno |
13:14.28 | sjhill | cool, Santa uses free software |
13:14.32 | andersee | mr_claus: I'll have to look over it later today |
13:14.44 | mr_claus | andersee: thx |
13:15.04 | sjhill | good morning andersee |
13:15.11 | sjhill | mr_claus: hi Santa |
13:15.13 | mr_claus | sjhill: yes, santa have to spend more money for presents, not for microsoft :) |
13:15.28 | mr_claus | hi sjhill |
13:15.33 | andersee | sjhill: morning |
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15:13.48 | mr_claus | problem while compiling gcc-final with buildroot: |
15:13.51 | mr_claus | /mnt/daten/projects/lfs-project/buildroot/toolchain_build_i386/gcc-3.3-final/i386-linux/libstdc++-v3/include/i386-linux/bits/ctype_noninline.h:84: error: ` |
15:13.51 | mr_claus | <PROTECTED> |
15:13.51 | mr_claus | /mnt/daten/projects/lfs-project/buildroot/toolchain_build_i386/gcc-3.3-final/i386-linux/libstdc++-v3/include/i386-linux/bits/ctype_noninline.h:85: error: ` |
15:13.51 | mr_claus | <PROTECTED> |
15:13.51 | mr_claus | make[4]: *** [ctype.lo] Error 1 |
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16:48.43 | mr_claus_ | the gcc compile problemm has something to do with locales |
16:49.16 | mjn3 | mr_claus_: what is your locale configuration? |
16:49.27 | mr_claus_ | if i switch off locales i can compile gcc but get an error while zlib |
16:49.29 | mr_claus_ | make[1]: Entering directory `/mnt/daten/projects/lfs-project/buildroot/build_i386/zlib-1.1.4' |
16:49.29 | mr_claus_ | /mnt/daten/projects/lfs-project/buildroot/build_i386/staging_dir/bin/i386-linux-gcc -Os -fPIC -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 i386 -c -o example.o example.c |
16:49.29 | mr_claus_ | i386-linux-gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations |
16:49.29 | mr_claus_ | make[1]: *** [example.o] Error 1 |
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16:49.47 | mr_claus_ | mjn3: i try to make a root-fs with buildroot |
16:50.49 | mjn3 | mr_claus_: and all you did enable locales in the buildroot makefile? |
16:51.28 | mr_claus_ | mjn3: yes |
16:51.56 | mjn3 | let me try a build. i haven't built with locale enabled in over a month |
16:53.34 | mr_claus_ | mjn3: i changed uclibc from version 0.9.21 to 0.9.22 too |
16:53.50 | mjn3 | i was going to try with the latest |
16:54.14 | mr_claus_ | ok |
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18:41.35 | mjn3 | mr_claus: looks like i broke the locale-enabled libstdc++ buildroot build a while back. i'm working on fixing it |
19:03.20 | dsmith | Ok now what's up with this: |
19:03.47 | dsmith | make/uclibc.mk has: uclibc: $(STAGING_DIR)/bin/$(ARCH)-linux-gcc $(STAGING_DIR)/lib/libc.a \ |
19:04.47 | dsmith | and make/gcc-3.3.mk has: $(STAGING_DIR)/bin/$(ARCH)-linux-gcc: $(GCC_BUILD_DIR1)/.compiled |
19:05.17 | dsmith | and I'm getting this error: |
19:05.20 | dsmith | make: *** No rule to make target `/usr/local/src/buildroot/build_mipsel/staging_dir/bin/mipsel-linux-gcc', needed by `uclibc'. Stop. |
19:06.32 | dsmith | Unless STAGING_DIR or ARCH is being un- or re- defined |
19:08.39 | mjn3 | dsmith: looking |
19:09.41 | dsmith | Fresh cvs checkout from a few minus ago, |
19:14.46 | mjn3 | dsmith: nothing is jumping out at me and i'm in the middle of trying to fix some buildroot locale issues with libstdc++. after i get that sorted out, i'll take a look |
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19:16.34 | dsmith | mjn3: Sure, np. |
19:21.17 | dsmith | mjn3: Doh! |
19:21.53 | dsmith | mjn3: I had GCC_2_95_TOOLCHAIN:=true |
19:22.43 | mjn3 | dsmith: ah... yeah, the 2.95 toolchain stuff is not currently working |
19:23.11 | dsmith | Ok, Now I'm back to my old ranlib error. |
19:23.25 | dsmith | (I've been out-of-town for a week. |
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19:42.14 | bryanw | was there any archival work done on busybox since last week ? |
19:42.27 | mjn3 | yes |
19:42.40 | mjn3 | bug1 checked in some stuff |
19:45.25 | andersee | mjn3: hmm |
19:45.47 | andersee | mjn3: buildroot with arm soft-float is choking |
19:46.05 | andersee | /home/andersen/CVS/buildroot/build_arm_nofpu/staging_dir/bin/arm-linux-gcc-msoft-float -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -Os -D__LDSO_LDD_SUPPORT -Wl,-s \ |
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19:46.05 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
19:46.05 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
19:46.05 | andersee | /home/andersen/CVS/buildroot/build_arm_nofpu/staging_dir/lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.3.2/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot open crt1.o: No such file or directory |
19:46.37 | bryanw | i ran into a lot of problems with crt1.o when building stuff for the tux screen |
19:47.04 | andersee | We have staging_dir/usr/lib/crt1.o, but ld wants to find crt1.o in staging_dir/lib/ |
19:47.31 | mjn3 | andersee: hmm |
19:47.34 | andersee | It wants all of crt1.o, crti.o, crtn.o in staging_dir/lib/ |
19:47.39 | andersee | indeed |
19:48.13 | andersee | for binutils. we se --with-lib-path such that staging_dir/usr/lib/ comes first |
19:48.23 | bryanw | andersee i see you made changes to env, did you fix the segfaulting on -i problem ? and -u not working |
19:48.26 | andersee | but it doesn't want to look there |
19:48.33 | andersee | bryanw: yes |
19:48.36 | bryanw | spiffy |
19:48.50 | mjn3 | andersee: in the old builds, crt*.o were in staging_dir/lib |
19:49.00 | andersee | bryanw: there was an uninitialized linked list. So it would walk off the end and blow up |
19:49.05 | andersee | mjn3: hmm |
19:49.17 | andersee | mjn3: perhaps I messed something up then |
19:49.24 | mjn3 | by old, i mean circa when i got the soft float stuff working originally |
19:49.47 | andersee | I suppose that the crt?.o files are runtime stuff, not devel stuff |
19:50.39 | mjn3 | well, they are devel stuff. but virtually nothing got installed in staging_dir/usr/lib. everything went into lib |
19:53.44 | andersee | yeah |
19:54.14 | andersee | yes, they are devel |
19:56.16 | andersee | make install_dev is installing shared libs to usr/lib |
19:56.29 | andersee | and is putting crt?.o under usr/lib/ as well |
19:57.09 | mjn3 | yeah |
19:57.48 | mjn3 | i would imagine the crt?.o files go where the *.a file go... /usr/lib |
19:58.53 | andersee | Which is the case now |
19:59.23 | andersee | SO I guess (other than the minor problem of uClibc's install_dev install shared libs as well) that brings us back to ld |
19:59.49 | andersee | So why is ld wanting crt?.o in staging_dir/lib/ |
20:01.35 | mjn3 | andersee: don't know. i'll try an arm soft-float build after i get the locale stuff working |
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20:10.29 | miguelanxo | hello |
20:10.46 | mjn3 | hello |
20:10.59 | miguelanxo | First of all, I've successfully compiled quite a bit of applications using uclibc |
20:11.46 | miguelanxo | but some of them report 'htons' not found, and I can't found it in /usr/i386-linux-uclibc/include nor using 'strings' in the libs |
20:11.49 | miguelanxo | what do I miss? |
20:12.23 | miguelanxo | I can understand it being just a macro, but where is it defined? |
20:12.57 | miguelanxo | do I have to include the macro defined in libc6 .h? |
20:13.50 | miguelanxo | HHM SORRY |
20:13.57 | miguelanxo | I've found it right now |
20:16.23 | mjn3 | htons is a macro in netinet/in.h but we should probably be supplying a function as well |
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20:39.29 | mjn3 | andersee: hey. i need to clean it up, but i have locale-enabled buildroot building again. i'm about to try a soft-float arm build and take a look |
20:56.32 | andersee | mjn3: I ran into the htons thing when compiling xfree86. It did not include the correct header file. But SuSv3 states the exact header file where it is provided, and makes specific allowance for it being a macro. |
20:56.50 | andersee | mjn3: So I submitted a bug/patch upstream citing SuSv3 |
21:00.16 | mjn3 | andersee: ok |
21:00.25 | mjn3 | andersee: i just got to the arm build failure |
21:01.47 | andersee | mjn3: the fix is trivial enough -- cp crt?.o from staging_dir/usr/lib/ to staging_dir/lib/ |
21:02.29 | andersee | mjn3: the real question is -- why doesn't --with-lib-path make it work as is? |
21:02.55 | andersee | The binutils --with-lib-path configure option that is |
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21:31.08 | mjn3 | andersee: looking at the configure file, i'm guessing that --with-lib-path only adds paths to try when searching for _libraries_ and not object files |
21:32.01 | andersee | hmm |
21:32.14 | andersee | Perhaps there is another path we can set |
21:32.22 | mjn3 | andersee: the compiler doesn't seem to find the crt?.o files even when adding -L with the appropriate path |
21:33.13 | mjn3 | so i'd guess we need to set --libdir to the appropriate path |
21:34.37 | mjn3 | i'll try a build doing that |
21:49.45 | mjn3 | hmm... didn't work. same error |
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22:25.08 | bug1 | man, im gunna haveto unsubsribe from debian-devel one of these days,its too stressfull, i was trying to tell them compiler optimisations are a good thing |
22:25.14 | dsmith | andersee: So you finally got woody built, eh? (/me is still catching up on email) |
23:21.21 | mr_claus | mjn3: did you find the problem with locales? |
23:29.55 | mr_claus | mjn3: i will be back tomorrow, n8 |
23:36.30 | bug1 | i dotn suppose there is a way to access a streams buffer is there ? |
23:36.41 | bug1 | to get to unused data |
23:37.15 | bug1 | stupid question |
23:38.45 | bug1 | rephrase, is there a way to get to a stream buffer without it filling up again |
23:55.20 | bug1 | hmm, freopen might do it |