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| 01:14.34 | Claud-Ubuntu | oh wow.... |
| 01:14.48 | Claud-Ubuntu | I'm here in linux land on a linux box..... :o |
| 01:15.54 | herlo | Zelut: ping |
| 01:16.22 | Claud-Ubuntu | uh oh... pinging going on..... |
| 01:16.34 | Claud-Ubuntu | must be a DANGEROUS channel full of subversives |
| 01:16.37 | herlo | Claud-Ubuntu: welcome |
| 01:17.02 | Claud-Ubuntu | ty |
| 01:17.21 | herlo | Claud-Ubuntu: no subversive people here |
| 01:25.29 | peno | Claud-Ubuntu: about time you see the light. |
| 01:25.45 | herlo | heartsbane: why? |
| 01:34.41 | Claud-Ubuntu | yeah, why? |
| 01:34.55 | Claud-Ubuntu | how come there's now ops here? |
| 01:35.21 | Hearts|Laptop | its not neccessary |
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| 01:35.34 | peno | Claud-Ubuntu: you couldn't handle the power of @ |
| 01:37.04 | Claud-Ubuntu | prolly too true |
| 01:37.16 | Claud-Ubuntu | i can't handle the power of . either |
| 01:38.04 | Hearts|Laptop | atoponce: ping |
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| 03:50.20 | Claud-Ubuntu | stoopid irc |
| 03:55.27 | atoponce | Hearts|Laptop: pong |
| 04:10.43 | Yorokobi | Is there such a thing as a text-based (console) PDF viewer? |
| 04:12.04 | atoponce | heh |
| 04:12.05 | atoponce | probably |
| 04:12.40 | atoponce | if there is a text-based media player for playing video, there is probably one for pdfs |
| 04:12.54 | Zelut | evening |
| 04:13.06 | atoponce | Zelut: back, or on your phone? |
| 04:13.13 | Zelut | atoponce: home |
| 04:30.18 | Zelut | tomorrow I may reinstall from scratch.. ugh. |
| 04:30.27 | Zelut | maybe try 64bit..? |
| 04:32.09 | atoponce | unless you want flash |
| 04:32.19 | atoponce | which, actually, i think there are work-arounds for |
| 04:33.11 | atoponce | and skype |
| 04:33.17 | atoponce | and other proprietary nonsense |
| 04:33.30 | Zelut | I don' use skype anyway |
| 04:33.39 | Zelut | flash maybe though |
| 04:33.49 | Zelut | that is the only problem you've found so far? |
| 04:34.44 | atoponce | well, i don't care much for flash, so it's no biggie to me, but yeah. so far |
| 04:35.15 | Zelut | I'm trying to think if I do rely on flash for things.. I guess that includes youtube? |
| 04:35.30 | atoponce | yeah |
| 04:35.41 | atoponce | google analytics |
| 04:35.58 | Zelut | statcounter ftw |
| 04:36.15 | Zelut | but you would say 64bit is worth it vs 32? |
| 04:36.25 | Zelut | I would be interested in benchmarking the same machine on both |
| 04:36.26 | atoponce | it is on my machine... :) |
| 04:36.34 | atoponce | dual boot |
| 04:36.42 | atoponce | then compile the kernel |
| 04:42.57 | atoponce | woot. sound is working |
| 04:43.02 | atoponce | now suspend... |
| 04:45.23 | Zelut | you're just tearing into that aren't ya. |
| 04:45.38 | Zelut | you're going to have the most patched, customized kernel you'll never be able to upgrade! |
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| 05:21.17 | atoponce | ok. question time |
| 05:21.38 | atoponce | how do i keep my computer for looking for a dhcp offer when booting? |
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| 05:33.59 | bretticus | set up a manual ip address and disable dhcp? |
| 05:34.18 | bretticus | not boot from lan or anything right? |
| 05:51.16 | herlo | atoponce: tell it not to |
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| 14:16.55 | Zelut | morning |
| 14:17.23 | Yorokobi | already? |
| 14:21.29 | peno | unfortunately |
| 14:28.55 | thaddeusq | Zelut! Hello!!! |
| 14:30.18 | Zelut | thaddeusq: well hello |
| 14:46.56 | Zelut | I'm backing up my machine for a clean instal and I'm sure I'm going to forget configs somewhere |
| 14:48.27 | thaddeusq | Zelut: You on the road this week? |
| 14:48.35 | Zelut | thaddeusq: nope |
| 14:53.49 | herlo | thaddeusq: me neither (next 2 weeks) hooray! |
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| 14:54.42 | herlo | Zelut: just so you know, tomorrow is the last day anyone can get in for the discounted rate of $40. If they use the discount code after tomorrow, it goes up to $55 or $249 for full price |
| 14:55.33 | Zelut | ok |
| 14:57.50 | herlo | Zelut: a mailing will be going out today about it, plus there's a blog post on utos.org too |
| 14:58.19 | thaddeusq | herlo: I already got a mailing about it. |
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| 15:00.32 | thaddeusq | herlo: Are you doing any kind of tracking as far as how many people sign up using which discount code? Should I use one discount code instead of another? |
| 15:05.16 | atoponce | finally |
| 15:05.36 | atoponce | debian is now maintaining the official last.fm player |
| 15:05.46 | atoponce | i wonder if it's in gutsy. should be |
| 15:05.54 | nearn_ | morning atoponce |
| 15:05.59 | atoponce | nearn_: morning |
| 15:06.07 | atoponce | nearn_: back from colorado? |
| 15:06.16 | nurn | yep |
| 15:06.29 | nurn | I got back really late sunday |
| 15:06.35 | herlo | thaddeusq: yes |
| 15:06.35 | atoponce | ahh. cool |
| 15:06.44 | Zelut | atoponce: you mean this package? |
| 15:06.49 | herlo | Zelut: mail me and I'll send you numbers when I can |
| 15:06.51 | Zelut | atoponce: p lastfm - a music player for Last.fm personalized radio |
| 15:06.55 | Zelut | p lastfm - a music player for Last.fm personalized radio |
| 15:06.59 | Zelut | eck |
| 15:07.01 | atoponce | Zelut:heh |
| 15:07.07 | atoponce | yeah. that package |
| 15:07.39 | atoponce | lastfm was already maintaining a deb, so i don't know why it wasn't in the debian/ubuntu repos from the start |
| 15:07.42 | nurn | time to get a coloc |
| 15:07.55 | atoponce | nurn: where at? |
| 15:08.44 | nurn | I am thinking serverpronto |
| 15:08.47 | atoponce | xmission is fairly decent, albeit, a bit pricey |
| 15:09.04 | nurn | i was just about to take a look at there prices. |
| 15:09.27 | atoponce | $100/mo for the first box, $20/mo for every box after that |
| 15:09.41 | atoponce | entry bandwidth 40GB/mo |
| 15:10.13 | nurn | http://serverpronto.com/detail-starter.php |
| 15:10.17 | Yorokobi | wow, 124 entries in my .ssh/known_hosts file |
| 15:10.29 | nurn | that is the starter with server pronto. |
| 15:11.09 | herlo | nurn: xmission is *better* |
| 15:11.22 | herlo | nurn: IMHO - though I don't colo there |
| 15:11.28 | atoponce | nurn: are you putting in your own box, or using one an the location? |
| 15:11.54 | nurn | I would like to use one at the location. |
| 15:12.47 | atoponce | i think that might be cheaper. not sure, though |
| 15:12.48 | nurn | herlo: yeah xm is a really good company but they dont have comparitive prices with other coloc companies. |
| 15:12.49 | thaddeusq | Wow, serverpronto only offers RedHat Linux 9 |
| 15:13.00 | nurn | and gentoo |
| 15:13.02 | nurn | <3 |
| 15:13.35 | atoponce | heh |
| 15:14.45 | thaddeusq | nurn: You pay for what you get. |
| 15:14.46 | herlo | nurn: there's a reason their prices are as high as they are |
| 15:14.47 | nurn | haha, the xkcd this morning is funny |
| 15:15.22 | herlo | thaddeusq just eluded to it too. XMission is a solid company and has solid bandwidth guarantees that they can actually stand behind |
| 15:15.46 | atoponce | they aren't competitve though |
| 15:15.59 | atoponce | i love xmission, but they have their weaknesses |
| 15:16.06 | atoponce | prices being one of them |
| 15:17.59 | Zelut | atoponce: how do I check for op/ownership on a channel again? |
| 15:18.15 | thaddeusq | I've never used Xmission for co-lo, but, the support that I've gotten from them for other things can't be beat. |
| 15:18.24 | atoponce | Zelut: using my aliases? |
| 15:18.35 | Zelut | atoponce: normal commands |
| 15:18.53 | atoponce | /msg ChanServ access <channel> list |
| 15:23.48 | Zelut | thank you |
| 15:26.13 | atoponce | np |
| 15:26.39 | atoponce | i tried sending that to the mailing list, but my request was denied |
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| 15:59.43 | |phoenyx| | general question: is the fslc dead? |
| 16:04.11 | |phoenyx| | (fslc == free software and linux club, fyi) |
| 16:04.37 | herlo | |phoenyx|: no, its not. I've talked with people up there as recently as a week ago |
| 16:04.51 | herlo | unum from #utah is up that way |
| 16:05.46 | |phoenyx| | oh really? I got the impression he lived somewhere near Murray last time I talked to him |
| 16:08.27 | herlo | |phoenyx|: he might now, but he knows people up there |
| 16:09.05 | herlo | does anyone here enforce spf for their mail server? Or at least use it as a spam detection/filtering component? |
| 16:22.58 | nurn | so does any one else recomend a coloc becides serverpronto and xmission? |
| 16:24.15 | herlo | nurn: I hear IOdynamics does it, but I think its more of a side thing |
| 16:24.41 | herlo | tier four is great! we use them for SoftwareFor.org |
| 16:25.39 | nurn | hmm they just have coloc housing. |
| 16:25.51 | nurn | I dont really want to buy a machine for it. |
| 16:27.24 | herlo | nurn: they do vps too |
| 16:27.28 | herlo | nurn: that's what we have |
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| 16:33.37 | nurn | hmmm so far server pronto I think has the best prices for a non owned coloc. |
| 16:41.02 | herlo | Zelut: ping |
| 16:41.08 | Zelut | herlo: pong |
| 16:41.28 | herlo | Zelut: sent you an email about dns swapping. Let me know when you get a chance. I thought it was an interesting idea |
| 16:48.06 | Zelut | herlo: replied. |
| 16:48.35 | herlo | Zelut: I see it, but you should look more closely at the dnsreport. Bluehost isn't doing their job according to that report |
| 16:48.50 | Zelut | herlo: hmm |
| 16:54.50 | Zelut | starting a reinstall now. I hope I remembered everything |
| 16:55.48 | herlo | Zelut: good luck |
| 16:57.10 | Zelut | I need a new hostname this time--something more creative than macbook. |
| 16:57.13 | Zelut | any suggestions? |
| 16:57.44 | herlo | zelut-mac |
| 16:59.35 | Zelut | then all of mine would be called zelut-ubuntu |
| 17:01.36 | herlo | Zelut: zelut-edgy |
| 17:01.48 | herlo | Zelut: zelut-feisty, etc |
| 17:02.23 | Zelut | herlo: well I'd have two zelut-dapper and four zelut-gutsy :) |
| 17:03.25 | moriancumer | Hear are some suggestions: McZelut, Zelda, zbuntu, zelut-licious, zbook |
| 17:03.54 | Zelut | zelut-licious ftw! |
| 17:04.19 | Zelut | is there a .ut tld extension? maybe I should get zel.ut :) |
| 17:07.44 | Zelut | well I've managed to file a bug already in the installer and I just started lol |
| 17:11.46 | herlo | no |
| 17:11.56 | herlo | you could get Zel.ut.us |
| 17:12.01 | herlo | :) |
| 17:15.06 | Zelut | herlo: you should lock down imp.ervio.us and let everyone try to haxor it. |
| 17:15.28 | herlo | Zelut: I'm gonna, I just reregistered it too |
| 17:15.33 | herlo | Zelut: honeypot, here we come |
| 17:18.35 | Zelut | nice |
| 17:19.26 | Zelut | man.. on to bug #2 already. |
| 17:48.23 | Zelut | weird. compiz active by default in gutsy. |
| 17:48.39 | Zelut | i haven't run compiz/beryl for so long (other than random show-off events) that its weird |
| 17:49.11 | Zelut | why its on? |
| 17:49.19 | herlo | yeah |
| 17:49.27 | Zelut | I guess it seems popular.. |
| 17:49.35 | herlo | Yeah probably |
| 17:49.37 | Zelut | I filed three bugs in the installer but so far its far improved from Feisty. |
| 17:49.40 | herlo | makes sense |
| 17:50.04 | Zelut | proper resolution out of the box--again, even compiz active. |
| 17:50.15 | Zelut | in feisty I had to install the 915resolution package |
| 17:50.56 | Zelut | 2.6.22-10-generic kernel. nice. |
| 17:52.50 | Zelut | its got the fast-user-switch applet loaded too, which I guess Fedora started in F7? |
| 17:53.14 | herlo | perty close actually |
| 17:53.47 | herlo | Zelut: yeah, fus is somewhat useful if you have a good machine |
| 17:58.05 | herlo | ~reward Zelut |
| 17:58.05 | jbot | ACTION gives Zelut a brownie point. And a *kick* in the pants! |
| 18:25.05 | Zelut | I installed 64bit but how can I tell that I'm actually running 64bit? |
| 18:36.01 | tapH20guru | if /var/run/xxx directory get cleared out on reboot... what's the proper way to ensure it get recreated with the proper permissions? In the init scripts? |
| 18:36.29 | tapH20guru | and the process is not spawned off by root |
| 18:55.59 | Zelut | herlo: I may have found a simple workaround for the comcrap filter |
| 18:56.56 | Zelut | herlo: yeah, looks like it. I've never seen it this high on the comcast connection before. |
| 19:05.18 | moriancumer | Zelut: what the work around? |
| 19:06.15 | herlo | Zelut: are you filtering the disconnects and dropping them? |
| 19:08.05 | Zelut | moriancumer: herlo: I changed the port range to 8080-8080 and its higher than I've ever seen it. |
| 19:08.18 | Zelut | it still fluctuates, but its maintaining a higher up speed than it had been |
| 19:09.21 | moriancumer | Zelut: I give it a try |
| 19:13.41 | herlo | Zelut: what was your range before? |
| 19:14.13 | Zelut | herlo: the default rtorrent range.. |
| 19:14.35 | herlo | Zelut: you didn't know you weren't supposed to use 6891- ? |
| 19:14.54 | herlo | Zelut: most torrent servers disable those ports because of abuse |
| 19:15.09 | herlo | also, that's why rtorrent uses random ports |
| 19:15.13 | herlo | by default IIRC |
| 19:15.16 | moriancumer | Zelut: doesn't rtorrent w/o -p option use a random port? |
| 19:15.31 | Zelut | herlo: well i didn't know that, but I'm just using the default rtorrent settings. |
| 19:15.34 | herlo | moriancumer: you can set a range with -p |
| 19:15.52 | herlo | Zelut: interesting, what was in your .rtorrent.rc before? |
| 19:16.01 | moriancumer | Zelut: yeah. i.e -p 8080-8080 |
| 19:16.29 | herlo | moriancumer: that wasn't Zelut |
| 19:16.46 | moriancumer | herlo: I just saw that. sorry |
| 19:16.46 | herlo | moriancumer: I was just clarifying |
| 19:16.51 | herlo | :) no worries |
| 19:17.22 | Zelut | herlo: #port_range = 15890-16999 |
| 19:17.33 | Zelut | herlo: I commented and replaced with 8080-8080 |
| 19:19.17 | Zelut | man, on to bug #5 for the day |
| 19:22.52 | herlo | Zelut: wow, that's a pretty high range. Should have been fine. You might want to consider changing port ranges on a daily basis, maybe just comment it out... |
| 19:37.03 | Gate | question: how stable is Ubuntu server on PowerPC arch? |
| 19:38.43 | Gate | ah crap. |
| 19:39.52 | herlo | Gate: pretty stable actually. I've seen it in use several times |
| 19:40.39 | Gate | Its not official, it seems. |
| 19:40.56 | Gate | at least not for 7.04 |
| 19:41.18 | Zelut | yeah, PPC was dropped with 7.04, but you can get a community port |
| 19:43.47 | Gate | I will just install from official 6.06 LTS. support to 2011 is worth it. |
| 19:45.03 | Zelut | yeah, my servers run 6.06.1 still |
| 19:46.38 | Gate | thanks :) DLing |
| 20:10.21 | herlo | s/mi/mbi/g |
| 20:10.22 | Zelut | cripes |
| 20:10.27 | Zelut | is the OSTC that big? :) |
| 20:10.29 | herlo | Zelut: its awesome! |
| 20:10.38 | herlo | Zelut: yes, it can handle many more than 160 |
| 20:10.54 | herlo | each classroom can have 50, plus the two biggest rooms can handle 70-100 each |
| 20:11.28 | Zelut | lets fill 'em all up |
| 20:11.52 | |phoenyx| | http://utah.ubuntu-us.org/ is returning errors |
| 20:12.28 | Zelut | |phoenyx|: i know, we're working on it. |
| 20:12.32 | |phoenyx| | okay |
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| 21:32.00 | Gate | herlo: wow....... wow. wow. |
| 21:32.23 | Gate | my group seems to have capped at 4 for now |
| 21:33.05 | herlo | Gate: that's still good. Do you have a mailing list? |
| 21:33.18 | Gate | not yet |
| 21:34.49 | Gate | I told our ACM and gave them a link. Reached out to most of the tech companies I know. No one else has responded to me, but I hope I will see some of them up there... |
| 21:39.13 | Gate | herlo: I will happily pass on any mail via ACM for now, you can send me something or dscacm@gmail.com |
| 21:43.06 | herlo | Gate: its okay. I appreciate the effort. We've been getting a huge response up here this year. I'm guessing it needs to filter down there other ways too... |
| 21:43.49 | Gate | I am hoping. I know word of mouth has gotten to several people I hadn't expected it to quite so quick. |
| 21:47.27 | herlo | yeah, its really exciting |
| 21:49.26 | Gate | I am looking forward to it :) |
| 21:49.43 | herlo | me too! |
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| 21:59.05 | herlo | Zelut: how far away from your house is this? http://tinyurl.com/2pd9ar |
| 21:59.20 | herlo | 10-15 minutes? |
| 22:00.24 | Zelut | herlo: bad link. |
| 22:01.46 | herlo | Zelut: that's dumb. Hold on |
| 22:02.49 | herlo | http://tinyurl.com/2m6hjk |
| 22:02.53 | herlo | try that one Zelut |
| 22:03.43 | Zelut | herlo: yeah, probably less than 10min |
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| 22:59.23 | undertakingyou | Anyone know of a way to recover a password from a zip archive? |
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| 23:13.14 | Hearts|Laptop | no |
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| 23:44.54 | Hearts|Laptop | atoponce: ping |
| 23:59.41 | Hearts|Laptop | after I restored /dev/hdc1 I searched the logs to find out what caused it to shut off at around 7AM this morning. |
| 23:59.51 | Hearts|Laptop | I think I found the culprit |