| 00:10.43 | sontek | :[ |
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| 00:26.26 | Hunding | what was the problem atoponce ? |
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| 01:03.56 | Hunding | away out |
| 01:04.17 | heartsbane | leaving? |
| 01:04.33 | Hunding | going out with family to the new Red Robins for dinner :) |
| 01:04.55 | Hunding | so excited...big thick juicy hamburgers...oh i'm so salavating! |
| 01:05.33 | heartsbane | mmmm..... cholesterol |
| 01:05.41 | Hunding | shut it! |
| 01:06.21 | Hunding | I am only allowed to eat meat when we go out to dinner...the wife refuses to "smell it or cook it in her house!" |
| 01:07.11 | heartsbane | enjoy |
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| 01:32.58 | atoponce | Hunding: just installed the driver for the printer locally, and it worked fine |
| 01:33.09 | atoponce | which means that i probably need to do the same thing here at home |
| 02:09.26 | heartsbane | Yorokobi: you around? |
| 02:09.56 | heartsbane | Yorokobi: ping |
| 02:10.10 | Yorokobi | heartsbane, aye, pong |
| 02:11.40 | heartsbane | hey I am finding it hard to make the conversion, so I am going to have force myself, so if I want to install KDE on my lappy (that only has gnome) what package would I install? |
| 02:12.20 | heartsbane | just KDE, because I thought it was KDE-desktop but I am just not seeing that anymore? |
| 02:12.31 | Yorokobi | kubuntu-desktop, I believe, is the metapackage you want |
| 02:12.33 | heartsbane | BTW enjoy your show |
| 02:12.43 | heartsbane | thank you |
| 02:12.57 | Yorokobi | MGS4 = Metal Gear Solid 4 for the PS3 (game demo video) |
| 02:13.38 | heartsbane | ~pee sontek. |
| 02:13.39 | jbot | ACTION pee's upon sontek. like a waterfall. |
| 02:13.49 | heartsbane | Damn I keep putting in the period |
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| 03:00.38 | heartsbane | Thanks Yorokobi |
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| 03:34.53 | Yorokobi | heartsbane, np |
| 03:35.07 | herlo | ~simpsons heartsbane |
| 03:35.08 | jbot | ACTION sends heartsbane chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 03:35.52 | herlo | jbot: no, pee $1 is <action> unzips his pants and tinkles on the head of $1 |
| 03:35.53 | jbot | herlo: okay |
| 03:36.17 | herlo | ~pee atoponce |
| 03:36.17 | jbot | ACTION unzips his pants and tinkles on the head of atoponce |
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| 03:53.28 | atoponce | ~poo herlo |
| 03:53.29 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at herlo |
| 03:56.28 | herlo | atoponce: how's things? |
| 03:57.28 | atoponce | good |
| 03:57.40 | atoponce | i thought that mt4 was under a gpl license... |
| 03:57.59 | atoponce | http://movabletype.org/license_beta.html <-- this says otherwise |
| 03:58.50 | atoponce | ahh. not the beta. just the final release will be gpl |
| 03:59.04 | atoponce | well, i guess i'll wait to try it out then |
| 04:02.43 | Zelut | greeting from after the conferenc |
| 04:07.19 | herlo | mt is gonna be |
| 04:07.31 | herlo | Zelut: did you enjoy? |
| 04:08.37 | atoponce | herlo: going to be... |
| 04:09.56 | herlo | atoponce: yeah |
| 04:10.01 | atoponce | ok |
| 04:12.29 | Zelut | I have enjoyed |
| 04:12.32 | Zelut | lots of swag |
| 04:13.07 | Zelut | I gave some money to EFF and got some cool stickers. I am plastering my machine with stickers now :) |
| 04:13.29 | Zelut | "Come back with a warrant" eff.org/nsa big black sticker :) |
| 04:13.32 | herlo | Zelut: nice |
| 04:26.47 | Zelut | anyone know where I can find which animal represents what line with Oreilly? |
| 04:27.39 | heartsbane | Damn I had no idea it was so late, and I got a early day tomorrow |
| 04:27.52 | heartsbane | Damn linux is fun |
| 04:27.55 | heartsbane | Night all |
| 04:28.17 | heartsbane | Zelut: No idea |
| 04:30.08 | herlo | Zelut: as in the books? |
| 04:30.30 | Zelut | yeah |
| 04:30.35 | Zelut | I think I found it |
| 04:31.34 | atoponce | how can i setup gzip with apache2? |
| 04:31.44 | atoponce | i would like to compress everything i'm server |
| 04:31.47 | atoponce | *serving |
| 04:32.53 | atoponce | and, how can i add expires headers while we're at it? |
| 04:33.03 | atoponce | basically, i'm looking to speed up my blog a bit |
| 04:33.13 | herlo | atoponce: I think its already in place, but you've gotta turn it on is all |
| 04:34.05 | atoponce | where? |
| 04:34.22 | herlo | http://www.bluestream.org/Networking/gzip.htm |
| 04:34.28 | herlo | atoponce: here's a good tutorial |
| 04:34.46 | herlo | atoponce: pretty nice actually |
| 04:34.51 | atoponce | that's apache 1 |
| 04:35.03 | atoponce | apache2 is mod_deflate |
| 04:35.15 | herlo | atoponce: oh, I saw that too... |
| 04:35.43 | herlo | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_deflate.html |
| 04:36.23 | herlo | atoponce: and http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_mod_deflate |
| 04:48.13 | maquis | !gf energizer rabbit vs energizer bunny |
| 04:48.15 | UtahBot | By results on Google: energizer bunny beats energizer rabbit by 666,000 to 124,000! |
| 04:54.02 | Zelut | atoponce: ping |
| 04:54.19 | Zelut | atoponce: would you like to see a kickban happen mid-stride? :) |
| 04:54.48 | herlo | atoponce: who? |
| 04:55.10 | Zelut | herlo: talking to me? |
| 04:55.27 | herlo | Zelut: oh, yeah. sorry kinda tired |
| 04:55.58 | Zelut | herlo: I'm about to get mheath again. Someone remind me how to kb by ip? |
| 04:56.18 | herlo | Zelut: I don't know how |
| 04:56.42 | herlo | Zelut: btw, I did enjoy your tutorial on devilspie. Gave me errors at first but now its working like a champ |
| 04:57.10 | Zelut | herlo: yeah, I think it could use some development but it gets the job done |
| 04:57.26 | herlo | Zelut: I like it so far |
| 04:57.59 | Zelut | my only problem was finding the right hooks, but once you use the debugger its simpler |
| 04:58.33 | herlo | yeah, had to |
| 04:59.51 | Zelut | problem is i can't remember the kickban syntax |
| 05:03.57 | herlo | Zelut: I don't know it either... |
| 05:04.13 | herlo | what'd be cool is if you could kickban from a different channel, never having to join |
| 05:04.32 | Zelut | I can't remember the syntax for ip address is all |
| 05:04.38 | Zelut | i know atoponce knows, but he's gone |
| 05:05.09 | herlo | oh well |
| 05:06.31 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
| 05:07.33 | Zelut | atoponce: ok, I've been invited to do some dirty work in #utah again. care to remind me the syntax? |
| 05:12.27 | Zelut | herlo: egging him on ehh |
| 05:12.57 | herlo | Zelut: just don't kick RyanE, he's a friend |
| 05:13.18 | Zelut | don't plan on kicking anyone but the troll |
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| 05:20.34 | herlo | Zelut: you know he's gonna come back as mtheath |
| 05:21.01 | Zelut | herlo: he should be out.. |
| 05:21.02 | herlo | you should kickban with *!m.heath@* or something |
| 05:21.11 | herlo | not sure how it goes... |
| 05:23.40 | Zelut | I think we got it this time.. |
| 05:24.51 | herlo | I guess we'll see |
| 05:34.02 | herlo | Zelut: did you go to matt Asay's keynote at UbuntuLive? |
| 05:34.25 | Zelut | herlo: I did, pretty good. |
| 05:34.26 | herlo | Zelut: if so, was it good? |
| 05:34.44 | herlo | Zelut: coo, because you know he's now keynoting at UTOSC right? |
| 05:34.49 | Zelut | I was going to say hi but he wandered off before I could get through the crowd. |
| 05:35.08 | herlo | GabeGunderson helped me secure him |
| 05:35.16 | herlo | me = us |
| 05:35.28 | herlo | us = Utah Open Source Conference |
| 05:35.40 | Zelut | yeah |
| 05:35.48 | herlo | Utah Open Source Conference = UTOSC :) |
| 05:36.04 | herlo | UTOSC = me |
| 05:36.13 | Zelut | now he's pming me from a different nick |
| 05:36.14 | herlo | atoponce: dang it, you ruined it! :) |
| 05:36.26 | herlo | Zelut: told you |
| 05:36.30 | atoponce | ruined what? |
| 05:36.40 | herlo | atoponce: my rhythm |
| 05:36.48 | herlo | atoponce: you threw off my groove |
| 05:36.51 | Zelut | atoponce: how can I turn on join quit messages again? |
| 05:36.53 | herlo | :-D |
| 05:36.54 | atoponce | ~ruin herlo's rhythm |
| 05:37.02 | herlo | atoponce: rude! |
| 05:37.14 | atoponce | Zelut: uhh..... |
| 05:37.29 | atoponce | "turn on" meaning... |
| 05:37.32 | herlo | he's tired mostly, but just wanted to leave after he larted atoponce |
| 05:37.33 | atoponce | in the channel? |
| 05:37.39 | Zelut | atoponce: I used your /alias to turn off crap quick join etc etc.. |
| 05:37.40 | herlo | ~whalepoo atoponce |
| 05:37.48 | Zelut | but I think I'd like to see join quits again |
| 05:37.52 | atoponce | ~whalepoop herlo |
| 05:37.53 | jbot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at herlo |
| 05:38.00 | sontek | i'm sleepy |
| 05:38.02 | atoponce | Zelut: ok. just a sec |
| 05:38.09 | herlo | ~whalepoop atoponce |
| 05:38.10 | jbot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at atoponce |
| 05:38.11 | Zelut | sontek: go get drunk |
| 05:38.15 | heartsbane | ~pee sontek |
| 05:38.15 | jbot | ACTION unzips his pants and tinkles on the head of sontek |
| 05:38.24 | heartsbane | you also smell funny. |
| 05:38.42 | herlo | ~travolta atoponce |
| 05:38.42 | jbot | ACTION replaces atoponce with several craters in a multi-colored display of superior fire power |
| 05:38.43 | atoponce | Zelut: what do you have listed under '/ignore'? |
| 05:38.49 | atoponce | ~zelut herlo |
| 05:38.50 | jbot | ACTION preaches to herlo from the book of Zelut. If herlo doesn't get it, herlo is beaten repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
| 05:38.56 | herlo | ~herlo atoponce |
| 05:38.57 | jbot | ACTION pokes atoponce with a sharp needle |
| 05:39.01 | herlo | ~atoponce atoponce |
| 05:39.02 | jbot | ACTION takes atoponce out behind the woodshed for not using XMPP |
| 05:39.03 | sontek | Zelut: I should join my fellow geeks, but trying to lose some weight |
| 05:39.05 | atoponce | ~findlay herlo |
| 05:39.06 | jbot | ACTION recreationally nmaps herlo. |
| 05:39.07 | sontek | don't want the beer belly |
| 05:39.14 | herlo | ~sontek atoponce |
| 05:39.20 | atoponce | ~simpsons herlo |
| 05:39.21 | jbot | ACTION sends herlo chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 05:39.57 | Zelut | ,--8<- |
| 05:39.58 | Zelut | |11:40 1 mheath: ALL |
| 05:39.58 | Zelut | |11:40 2 *: CRAP CTCPS JOINS PARTS QUITS CLIENTNOTICES CLIENTCRAP CLIENTERRORS |
| 05:40.01 | Zelut | `-->8- |
| 05:40.16 | herlo | jbot: sontek $atoponce is <action> writes a .NET app all over $atoponce and reminds him that .NET *is* open source |
| 05:40.17 | jbot | herlo: okay |
| 05:40.21 | herlo | ~sontek atoponce |
| 05:40.22 | jbot | ACTION writes a .NET app all over atoponce and reminds him that .NET *is* open source |
| 05:40.35 | atoponce | Zelut: /unignore 2 |
| 05:40.51 | atoponce | ~wake herlo |
| 05:40.52 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on herlo and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 05:41.15 | heartsbane | herlo: watch it cause I tried that a hour ago |
| 05:41.21 | heartsbane | still wide awake |
| 05:44.59 | atoponce | in fact... |
| 05:45.06 | atoponce | !orderfor heartsbane valium |
| 05:45.17 | atoponce | hah |
| 05:45.27 | heartsbane | I think I overdosed on caffeine |
| 05:46.01 | heartsbane | and KDE |
| 05:46.05 | atoponce | didn't i run you over with my rc jeep earlier today? |
| 05:46.10 | atoponce | kde?!? |
| 05:46.57 | heartsbane | hey atleast it wasn't a overdose of LDS that stuff takes years to get out of your system |
| 05:47.18 | atoponce | lds, eh? yeah. religion is a tough one to beat... |
| 05:47.20 | heartsbane | *no typos* |
| 05:47.29 | atoponce | definitely 'dem mormons |
| 05:47.52 | atoponce | :) |
| 05:48.20 | heartsbane | dem & mormons rarely ever used right next to each other |
| 05:48.38 | heartsbane | you meet so few mormon dems |
| 05:48.53 | atoponce | heh |
| 05:49.22 | atoponce | you know, this state was founded by democrats, and largely run for quite some time.... |
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| 05:50.00 | heartsbane | I know... but things change |
| 05:51.29 | Zelut | nite guys |
| 05:51.40 | sontek | yeah, slc will be awesome once we get Ashdown into office |
| 05:51.49 | sontek | Orrin is a waste |
| 05:52.26 | heartsbane | waste of skin, or waste of breath or waste of time? |
| 05:52.34 | atoponce | pick one |
| 05:52.48 | heartsbane | each one is a thesis |
| 05:52.49 | atoponce | don't forget waste of taxpayer's money |
| 05:54.00 | heartsbane | indeed |
| 05:54.30 | heartsbane | I so want to turn this KDE box back on and start trying some more stuff |
| 05:55.45 | heartsbane | uh next project, I think I spent to long in Gnome |
| 05:56.25 | Zelut | heartsbane: I try KDE but I'm always back to gnome in a day or so |
| 05:56.55 | atoponce | you use what is most porductive to you, i have found |
| 05:56.56 | heartsbane | what are the positives of fluxbox? |
| 05:57.25 | atoponce | it's fun to experiment with the different wms, but you'll always go back to what you get the most done with the fastest |
| 05:57.46 | atoponce | i like flux, because it's light, snappy, and full of config |
| 05:58.06 | atoponce | but, it lacks a lot of tools that you may have become aware of from gnome or kde |
| 05:59.04 | heartsbane | atoponce: in that case I would always be in Gnome with Firefox as the browser, and Terminal window open with like 5 or 6 tabs connect to other machines, and such |
| 05:59.21 | heartsbane | like I always am |
| 05:59.42 | atoponce | i used flux on an older comp, because i was pretty much forced to due to lack of specs |
| 05:59.45 | atoponce | and i learned to love it |
| 06:00.04 | atoponce | since having hardware that can keep up now, i've tinkered with kde and gnome, and gnome has grown on me |
| 06:00.23 | atoponce | i find myself going back to flux every once-in-a-while, but it seems gnome is where i stay |
| 06:00.31 | heartsbane | grown on you, like ........ moss? |
| 06:00.58 | atoponce | hmmm.... |
| 06:01.18 | atoponce | more like fungus |
| 06:01.30 | atoponce | no matter how hard you try, there is no cure |
| 06:02.28 | heartsbane | I find myself drifting over to Beryl, Compiz, Compcomm just to show off .... but ever since the Beryl 0.2.0rc3 they have just removed some ot the useful tools (because they never worked right) and just kept adding more eyecandy |
| 06:02.42 | atoponce | yeah |
| 06:02.44 | heartsbane | Fungus.... |
| 06:02.50 | atoponce | i can't stick with eyecandy |
| 06:02.53 | atoponce | just gets in the way |
| 06:03.20 | atoponce | heh |
| 06:04.17 | heartsbane | I liked the Zoom, and tabbing, and flipbook options in Beryl but in rc3 its all gone |
| 06:04.19 | heartsbane | so |
| 06:05.01 | heartsbane | they put it back in Compcomm and I am just to lazy to switch |
| 06:07.08 | heartsbane | maybe after that I will be tired |
| 06:07.52 | atoponce | good luck |
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| 13:12.34 | redbeard2 | ping Zelut |
| 14:49.09 | maquis | anyone here good with sql? |
| 14:55.45 | Yorokobi | Good? or fairly familiar? |
| 14:56.01 | maquis | Yorokobi: here's the issue |
| 14:58.53 | maquis | i have a table, and some of the entries in this table have dupes for a particular field... |
| 14:59.30 | maquis | i want to select that field for all instances where that field is duplicated |
| 14:59.56 | maquis | (and eventually, i'll want to count how many of that field are duplicated...) |
| 15:00.16 | maquis | ie, so if the entries in that field are: A B A C C D, i want to return A C |
| 15:00.54 | Yorokobi | select A, C from table where A=A and C=C; |
| 15:01.14 | Yorokobi | or use OR instead of AND (where A=A OR C=C) |
| 15:01.29 | maquis | A and C are entries in the column |
| 15:01.36 | maquis | and i don't know what they are... that's why i want to select them |
| 15:01.51 | Yorokobi | Do you know the column names? |
| 15:02.16 | maquis | here's what i've figured out so far |
| 15:02.18 | Yorokobi | select col1, col2 from table where col1=A and/or col2=C |
| 15:02.44 | maquis | select count(*) as count, col1 from table1 group by col1 |
| 15:03.18 | maquis | but what i want to do is only get the ones where count = 2, but when i try to add that where-clause,it throws an error |
| 15:04.03 | Yorokobi | which SQL server? |
| 15:04.11 | maquis | oracle |
| 15:04.42 | Yorokobi | This looks like something better suited for a stored procedure rather than a statment |
| 15:05.24 | maquis | hmmm... i'm trying to do it as a quick check |
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| 15:07.56 | Yorokobi | maquis, have you tried using a non-keyword for the value of count(*)? select count(*) as counter, col1 from table1 where counter = 2 group by col1 |
| 15:08.14 | maquis | i think i did, but i'll try that again |
| 15:08.17 | Yorokobi | maquis, btw, IIRC, group by is usually last |
| 15:08.33 | maquis | Yorokobi: cool... i'll try that and see if that works |
| 15:09.59 | maquis | Yorokobi: it says that curr_counter is an invalid identifier... |
| 15:10.03 | maquis | i'm not sure why, though |
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| 15:16.20 | Yorokobi | maquis, yeah, sorry. I'm not too familiar with the way oracle works (even though we use 10g here, I never play with it) |
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| 15:27.59 | maquis | Yorokobi: np... i'm not as familiar as i wish i was |
| 15:33.30 | maquis | man... i've been *really* out of it this week |
| 15:36.37 | maquis | yesterday, i was suppoesd to do something that i just completely spaced on... and i noticed that there were some thing that i was supposed to have configured that didn't get configured yesterday, etc... |
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| 16:12.30 | atoponce | w00t |
| 16:12.40 | atoponce | just *seriously* optimized the bandwidth on pthree.org |
| 16:12.47 | atoponce | tell me if it's not faster... |
| 16:12.56 | atoponce | seems a lot faster to me |
| 16:13.09 | {phoenyx} | slower for me |
| 16:13.11 | atoponce | and the footprint is small |
| 16:13.26 | atoponce | really? |
| 16:13.33 | {phoenyx} | yeah |
| 16:13.51 | atoponce | ooh. it was solw then. what the? |
| 16:14.11 | atoponce | probably the youtube vids slowing it down |
| 16:14.17 | {phoenyx} | you may want more data points though |
| 16:14.38 | {phoenyx} | sometimes the network here at work is flakey |
| 16:15.15 | atoponce | well, i've turned on gzip, add expires headers, configured etags, removed a lot of unneccesary scripts and plugins |
| 16:15.30 | {phoenyx} | nice |
| 16:16.24 | Yorokobi | now you just need to nuke the images, atoponce |
| 16:17.13 | atoponce | yeah. well, i just nuked the youtube vids, and pointed to links instead of embedding |
| 16:22.24 | atoponce | and? |
| 16:27.51 | {phoenyx} | looks pretty good. Suggests that you expire your images and use a CDN |
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| 16:28.18 | atoponce | yeah. i'm not using a cdn |
| 16:28.19 | {phoenyx} | *shrug* not sure why it's slower for me |
| 16:30.36 | atoponce | unless of course you want to host it for me... :) |
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| 16:41.56 | atoponce | i could speed it up further by condensing my css and javascript... |
| 16:45.23 | {phoenyx} | I'm totally spacing this, what is the command to get the time on your server? |
| 16:45.43 | {phoenyx} | bah, "date", nwm |
| 16:45.53 | {phoenyx} | nvm |
| 16:49.58 | maquis | question: when representing a directed graph do you generally use a class for a node, and a class for an edge? |
| 16:50.04 | maquis | or just one or the other? |
| 16:51.00 | {phoenyx} | I'd use only one |
| 16:51.40 | maquis | ok... me too, but i wanted to make sure i'm not insane |
| 16:55.10 | baens | atoponce: have you used firebug to profile the download speed of the webpage? |
| 16:57.22 | atoponce | baens: ahh. good call. didn't think of that |
| 16:57.40 | baens | im pulling it down in 11 secs |
| 16:58.23 | atoponce | ahh. it's 2 404s on openid plugin |
| 16:58.29 | baens | yup |
| 17:15.45 | atoponce | now try it |
| 17:16.23 | {phoenyx} | noticeably faster |
| 17:16.28 | baens | cool |
| 17:16.29 | atoponce | disabled the openid plugin until i can figure out what's going on with it |
| 17:16.47 | atoponce | ~w00t |
| 17:16.48 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 17:31.17 | {phoenyx} | maquis: on second thought, I think I would make two classes to simplify things and be efficient with resources |
| 17:34.42 | {phoenyx} | (if it's a weighted graph) |
| 18:05.35 | Hunding | Two moons on August 27, 2007 |
| 18:05.35 | Hunding | *27th Aug the Whole World is waiting for.............* |
| 18:05.35 | Hunding | Planet Mars will be the brightest in the night sky |
| 18:05.35 | Hunding | starting August. |
| 18:05.35 | Hunding | It will look as large as the full moon to the naked |
| 18:05.37 | Hunding | eye. This will cultminate on Aug. 27 when Mars comes |
| 18:05.39 | Hunding | within 34.65M miles of earth. Be sure to watch the sky |
| 18:05.42 | Hunding | on Aug. 27 12:30 am . It will look like the earth has |
| 18:05.44 | Hunding | 2 moons. The next time Mars may come this close is in |
| 18:05.47 | Hunding | 2287. |
| 18:05.49 | Hunding | Share this with your friends as NO ONE ALIVE TODAY |
| 18:05.52 | Hunding | will ever see it again. |
| 18:07.20 | baens | http://www.snopes.com/science/mars.asp |
| 18:08.22 | baens | :) |
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| 18:31.41 | atoponce | http://xkcd.com/250/ |
| 18:42.16 | Zelut | yeah, I've seen that email too |
| 18:42.20 | Zelut | ..I think I got it last year |
| 18:43.42 | {phoenyx} | atoponce: my favorite: http://xkcd.com/149/ |
| 18:47.52 | atoponce | yeah. i want that t-shirt, actually |
| 18:49.04 | Zelut | I've seen a bunch of those at OSCON |
| 18:54.26 | baens | heres a fix for the alt tags on that website (and all websites in general) : http://tinyurl.com/2876js |
| 18:54.49 | baens | probably already know it but just found it :) |
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| 20:25.51 | atoponce | given the following in javascript: |
| 20:26.03 | atoponce | var temp = {a: 1, b: 2, c: 3}; |
| 20:26.13 | atoponce | how can i find the length of temp? |
| 20:26.18 | atoponce | temp.length is undefined |
| 20:26.35 | atoponce | as is temp[0].length |
| 20:32.37 | {phoenyx} | what type is that? (I've never used it before) |
| 20:33.18 | tonedevf | .length isn't undefined? |
| 20:33.21 | tonedevf | weird |
| 20:33.42 | atoponce | it's a javascript object |
| 20:33.49 | atoponce | var temp = new Object(); |
| 20:33.50 | atoponce | or |
| 20:33.53 | atoponce | var temp = {}; |
| 20:33.58 | tonedevf | oh, because it's not a straight 1D array |
| 20:34.12 | atoponce | basically, the same thing as a python/ruby dictionary/hash |
| 20:36.07 | tonedevf | accessing and mutating your object works just fine? |
| 20:37.39 | sontek | atoponce: The problem is thats not like a dictionary/hash. You are actually defining a new type |
| 20:37.46 | sontek | with properties a, b, and c |
| 20:39.16 | sontek | There are a lot of frameworks that have implemented a hashtable type in js |
| 20:44.07 | heartsbane | ~pee sontek |
| 20:44.08 | jbot | ACTION unzips his pants and tinkles on the head of sontek |
| 20:45.42 | atoponce | sontek: yeah. i hate javascript, let's just put it that way |
| 20:45.59 | sontek | atoponce: I used to |
| 20:46.01 | atoponce | however, for(i in temp) counter++ works |
| 20:58.02 | kissotdragon | atoponce, is your temp variable a string? |
| 20:58.19 | atoponce | nay. an object |
| 20:58.57 | kissotdragon | ah |
| 21:01.04 | maquis | you know it's bad when your team has to call in reinforcements during team lunch... |
| 21:06.54 | kissotdragon | atoponce, what kind of object is it... it should then have methods and properties that are already created or can be created... such as length |
| 21:07.11 | atoponce | kissotdragon: it's a javascript object. :) |
| 21:07.19 | atoponce | var temp = new Object(); |
| 21:07.44 | atoponce | the only methods available are: |
| 21:08.07 | atoponce | eval(), toSource(), toString(), unwatch(), valueOf() and watch() |
| 21:08.30 | atoponce | it's really just a primitive type |
| 21:09.04 | kissotdragon | atoponce, it should be derived from some class... i assume Object :) |
| 21:09.05 | atoponce | Array() is an Object object, as are many others |
| 21:09.15 | atoponce | kissotdragon: this ain't c++. :) |
| 21:09.42 | kissotdragon | atoponce, well that is the first problem right there ;) |
| 21:10.01 | atoponce | this is javascript we're talking about. there are *many* problems |
| 21:10.28 | kissotdragon | :D |
| 21:10.33 | Yorokobi | Not the least of which is its existance |
| 21:10.59 | kissotdragon | I am a bit rusty on the javascript |
| 21:13.09 | atoponce | kissotdragon: in all honesty, a javascript Object object behaves much the same way a dictionary does in python or an associated array does in c/c++ |
| 21:13.40 | atoponce | don't think of it as an 'object' per se, as an 'associative array' |
| 21:13.47 | atoponce | with keys and values |
| 21:14.09 | kissotdragon | makes more sense now |
| 21:14.21 | atoponce | a 'hash' would be another good term |
| 21:14.46 | atoponce | javascript extends OOP a bit, but not to the level that you would expect |
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| 23:45.09 | Gate | !tremservers |
| 23:45.11 | Gate | oiy |
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