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| 01:21.15 | herlo | Zelut: haha, I'm about half way done. But I can't do much more until the morning |
| 01:23.02 | Zelut | I'm completely ready, figured I'd do everything tonite. |
| 01:23.21 | Zelut | bbiab, time to get some dinner.. |
| 01:23.30 | Zelut | thinking maybe ihop, because I'm boring and I love breakfast |
| 01:24.35 | herlo | Zelut: you're in minnesota? Go to Buffalo Wild Wings. They have like 30 different types of wings |
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| 01:56.00 | Zelut | cool |
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| 01:57.10 | Zelut | i got a huge breakfast at ihop. there now |
| 01:57.13 | Zelut | i'm starved |
| 02:01.37 | Gate | anyone used Cedega in here? |
| 02:03.16 | Zelut | not for a long time |
| 02:04.42 | Zelut | i have no time for games |
| 02:04.46 | Zelut | too busy saving the world |
| 02:04.55 | Gate | lol |
| 02:05.00 | etank | i have no money for games |
| 02:06.03 | HoneyShiv | Hello everyone! Long time no see |
| 02:06.15 | Zelut | wow she found her way back |
| 02:06.15 | Gate | um. Hi. :) |
| 02:06.22 | HoneyShiv | :) |
| 02:06.27 | HoneyShiv | hello there |
| 02:07.09 | Gate | Alright, another question. Have you heard of anyone in the St. George area that would be interested in a 4 week beginner Linux class? |
| 02:07.34 | Zelut | I think you are our only 'gate'way into that area |
| 02:07.52 | Gate | lol |
| 02:08.20 | Zelut | I'd love to teach a 4 week class, but I don't know anyone else down there interested |
| 02:08.59 | Gate | actually, *I* am teaching it. Looking for students :) |
| 02:09.16 | Gate | I have taught it once already, but there weren't many people |
| 02:09.26 | Zelut | my students this week were a bunch of smart-mouths |
| 02:09.36 | HoneyShiv | how any do you have signed up? |
| 02:09.36 | herlo | Zelut: mine wouldn't talk |
| 02:09.49 | Zelut | mine wouldn't shutup |
| 02:09.53 | herlo | :) |
| 02:09.58 | Zelut | ohh well, nobody is going to pass tomorrow |
| 02:10.37 | herlo | probably not |
| 02:11.03 | Gate | me? none that I know of. we are just starting to advertise that it will be happening again this fall. |
| 02:11.21 | Zelut | my best guess is maybe one person, but I'm calling a shutout |
| 02:12.12 | herlo | I'm at least gonna pass one |
| 02:12.14 | herlo | :) |
| 02:12.22 | herlo | I think he'll do good |
| 02:12.33 | Zelut | I called to wish him luck |
| 02:12.53 | herlo | I know |
| 02:12.58 | herlo | he told me |
| 02:13.00 | HoneyShiv | gate- i would make sure to get it out to the college down there, I'm sure some students might want to take it |
| 02:13.20 | herlo | Gate: how much? |
| 02:13.30 | Gate | hold on, I will check |
| 02:15.13 | Gate | the Lady running the program hasn't posted the prices yet, still looking |
| 02:16.52 | Yorokobi | Gate, who's the lady running the program? |
| 02:18.08 | Gate | Debbie Beaver, DSC |
| 02:18.33 | Yorokobi | hm, probably not a native to SG then |
| 02:18.51 | Gate | Never asked her, I wouldn't be suprised. |
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| 02:26.51 | Gate | herlo: can't find the price. I will tell you when I find out. |
| 02:27.10 | Gate | It going to be a 4 week, 2 night a week class |
| 02:28.03 | herlo | Gate: cool |
| 03:13.50 | Hearts|Laptop | Night all |
| 03:16.25 | Zelut | nite |
| 03:20.27 | Gate | night. |
| 03:50.09 | herlo | he's back |
| 03:50.50 | herlo | in #utah. I thought u kickbanned him? |
| 03:51.10 | herlo | Zelut: ping |
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| 04:39.25 | Zelut | I thought I did |
| 05:05.51 | herlo | Zelut: I guess I misread, it looks like you did |
| 05:06.38 | herlo | Zelut: oh no, he's back! |
| 05:16.42 | sontek | :O |
| 05:18.34 | herlo | he's now referred to as mtheath |
| 05:19.29 | sontek | lolz |
| 05:19.31 | sontek | what a n00b |
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| 12:24.11 | Zelut | can we ban by ip? |
| 12:49.53 | atoponce | Zelut: yes you can |
| 12:50.12 | atoponce | *!*@ip.address |
| 13:28.38 | Zelut | maquis: ping |
| 13:32.12 | atoponce | she's probably still in bed. it's 6:30am in WA |
| 13:33.13 | Zelut | but she never leaves her office so I figured.. |
| 13:34.14 | atoponce | heh |
| 13:34.20 | atoponce | ~wake maquis |
| 13:34.21 | jbot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on maquis and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 13:40.35 | herlo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Spec/EnhancedBash |
| 13:41.56 | herlo | mostly its the pic at the top that gest me |
| 13:42.13 | herlo | ~jostle maquis |
| 13:42.23 | atoponce | zsh++ |
| 13:42.38 | herlo | atoponce: yeah, but did you look at it? |
| 13:42.46 | atoponce | yeah. i saw it |
| 13:43.16 | Zelut | Thunderbird 2.0.0.5 bugfix released today |
| 13:43.56 | atoponce | i saw the firefox one come through... |
| 13:44.13 | Zelut | I didn't check for that yet, but saw it yesterday |
| 13:44.20 | Zelut | ..in the news anyway |
| 13:45.29 | herlo | :) |
| 13:45.59 | herlo | Zelut: what news do you read? Curiosity strikes |
| 13:46.07 | herlo | Zelut: does your test start soon? |
| 13:46.07 | Zelut | man it's easy to upgrade manually |
| 13:46.25 | Zelut | sudo tar -C /opt -zxvf thunderbird-* |
| 13:46.36 | herlo | yeah, or wherever you have tbird |
| 13:46.37 | Zelut | yeah, I'm going to let them in in about 5 minutes |
| 13:47.04 | Zelut | I had two guys tell me to not expect them. I guess I scared them off. |
| 13:47.37 | herlo | haha |
| 13:47.55 | herlo | so seriously, do you read particular rss feeds or what? |
| 13:48.11 | Zelut | ohh nss and iptables upgrade too |
| 13:48.27 | Zelut | I recently subscribed to atoponce's list posted on his blog |
| 13:50.11 | herlo | his whol list? |
| 13:51.13 | atoponce | Zelut: i tried emailing mark, but his email bounced |
| 14:07.24 | Zelut | hmm |
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| 14:27.20 | maquis | hmm.. are kissotdragons silver? |
| 14:27.35 | maquis | i need +3 blessed silver dragon scale mail... |
| 14:31.17 | kissotdragon | sorry fresh out |
| 14:36.12 | maquis | heh.. |
| 14:36.36 | maquis | i think kissotdragon just realized *how* you get +3 blessed silver dragon scale mail from a dragon... |
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| 14:43.46 | Zelut | maquis: are you playing that whats-it-called game again? |
| 14:46.39 | maquis | Zelut: nethack? |
| 14:46.40 | maquis | :) |
| 14:47.41 | Zelut | that's the one |
| 14:51.14 | maquis | not at the moment.. but i was playing it on the way in to work |
| 14:51.27 | maquis | i need to get a scroll of genocide for nymphs |
| 14:55.21 | maquis | Zelut: it's a wonderful game |
| 14:55.44 | maquis | Zelut: you can try it out at 'telnet nethack.alt.org' if you don't want to actually install it yet |
| 14:55.56 | maquis | don't expect to do particularly well your first time, though |
| 14:57.03 | maquis | i've been playing on and off for years, and i've never ascended |
| 14:57.12 | maquis | but one of the guys on my team at work has ascended multiple times |
| 15:01.42 | Zelut | sounds like a mud? |
| 15:01.54 | maquis | more like a sud |
| 15:02.02 | maquis | it's not multi-player |
| 15:02.18 | maquis | although, when you die, you can leave bones files that other people will find |
| 15:02.28 | maquis | and your ghost might wander around attacking people |
| 15:03.08 | maquis | ghosts don't do much damage, but they do get annoying |
| 15:03.13 | maquis | they take like 60 hits to kill |
| 15:04.14 | maquis | anyway, the goal of nethack is to descend through hell to around level 50-ish, find the amulet of yendor, ascend back to the surface, and sacrifice the amulet on your god's altar |
| 15:04.35 | atoponce | it's been *years* |
| 15:04.42 | maquis | atoponce: you any good? |
| 15:04.48 | atoponce | maquis: i've never ascended |
| 15:04.52 | atoponce | nope. :) |
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| 15:05.09 | maquis | i've never been any good... made it to the bottom of the mines a few times... made it to level 19 in the dungeon once |
| 15:05.13 | maquis | that's about it |
| 15:05.21 | atoponce | that's further than me |
| 15:05.28 | atoponce | iirc, i couldn't get past 9 or so... |
| 15:05.32 | maquis | my current game, though, i've got cleaver and stormbringer (artifact weapons) so i'm doing pretty well |
| 15:05.49 | atoponce | when i get my laptop, it'll be the first app i install |
| 15:06.13 | maquis | yeah... it's almost always one of my first apps |
| 15:06.31 | maquis | i like playing on nethack.alt.org, but most of the time when i play, i don't have network connectivity |
| 15:07.29 | atoponce | maquis: you use public transit to work? |
| 15:08.07 | maquis | atoponce: yup |
| 15:08.14 | maquis | 1,412,304 |
| 15:08.16 | maquis | wow... |
| 15:08.22 | maquis | http://amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=1084186&/sr=53-1/qid=1184944068/ref=tr_325281/102-9164189-4357737 |
| 15:08.28 | atoponce | maquis: and no wifi? |
| 15:08.32 | maquis | atoponce: yup |
| 15:08.41 | maquis | some of the other routes have wifi, but our route doesn't have it |
| 15:08.47 | atoponce | ahh |
| 15:08.55 | maquis | probably a good thing... otherwise i'd probably end up working on the bus |
| 15:09.26 | maquis | (HP7 initial printing has 12-million copies for US) |
| 15:11.46 | Yorokobi | funny |
| 15:12.23 | Yorokobi | oh, Utah is ranked #3 in the Harry-est states. |
| 15:13.34 | maquis | lots of kids |
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| 15:39.16 | Zelut | I assume nethack is more fun in the mud setting.. running alone seems lonely :) |
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| 15:46.47 | Zelut | my dog keeps standing in my way. stupid dg |
| 15:47.17 | herlo | Zelut: I don't much care for dogs |
| 15:47.25 | atoponce | dogs rule |
| 15:47.38 | herlo | atoponce: your opinion doesn't count |
| 15:47.47 | atoponce | heh |
| 15:47.51 | herlo | atoponce: mainly because you are full of opinions |
| 15:47.52 | atoponce | is someone talking to me? |
| 15:47.59 | Zelut | erg, how do I pick things up? :) |
| 15:48.06 | atoponce | i coulda swore someone mentioned my name |
| 15:48.25 | herlo | atoponce: that's strange, me too... |
| 15:48.42 | herlo | ~simpsons atoponce |
| 15:48.43 | jbot | ACTION sends atoponce chasing a rolling pink donut down the hill screaming, "its still good!, its still good!" |
| 15:51.15 | {phoenyx} | atoponce: I agree. Dogs are cool |
| 15:52.04 | sontek | ~hug atoponce |
| 15:52.05 | jbot | ACTION hugs atoponce |
| 15:52.14 | sontek | I love my doggies! |
| 15:52.17 | sontek | More than my gf |
| 15:52.37 | sontek | Well, I love Wyatt, kobe is very loyal and well behaved but hes very jealous and its annoying |
| 15:52.55 | Yorokobi | sontek, you need a better gf ... or no dogs. |
| 15:53.05 | sontek | Yorokobi: My dogs are pretty sweet |
| 15:53.11 | sontek | Yorokobi: Wyatt can do tornadoes =) |
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| 15:54.30 | herlo | lots of wet tornadoes |
| 15:57.21 | herlo | I think dogs are fine as long as they don't come near me and don't yap |
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| 15:57.53 | sontek | You have to love these dogs though: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sontek/858734615/ |
| 15:58.17 | sontek | Wyatt is such a stud: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sontek/858734621/ |
| 16:00.05 | Yorokobi | I had a feeling they would be pit bulls |
| 16:00.54 | sontek | Because pit bulls are so amazing? =) |
| 16:01.05 | sontek | or because I'm such a badass, they are the only dogs that fit me? =) |
| 16:01.26 | Yorokobi | sontek, because you exude the "I'm a pit bull owner" machismo attitude |
| 16:04.27 | sontek | Thats because pitbulls are so loyal and smart |
| 16:04.28 | sontek | ! |
| 16:05.20 | sontek | http://www.flickr.com/photos/sontek/858769259/ |
| 16:05.21 | sontek | :D |
| 16:06.33 | Yorokobi | sontek, most do, but they have a bad rep. Good luck getting homeowner's/renter's insurance |
| 16:06.58 | Yorokobi | brb, お手洗いに行った。 |
| 16:06.58 | sontek | Already got it =) |
| 16:07.05 | sontek | I owns me a home! |
| 16:07.08 | sontek | ;) |
| 16:12.35 | thaddeusq | herlo: I'm already a 1/2 hour into the second part of the exam! |
| 16:12.47 | herlo | thaddeusq: yeah, that's because you are on the east coast |
| 16:13.06 | {phoenyx} | they let you be on irc during an exam? |
| 16:13.16 | sontek | hes cheating! |
| 16:13.39 | herlo | {phoenyx}: yes, we're giving htem |
| 16:13.42 | herlo | not taking them |
| 16:14.49 | thaddeusq | It's easier to get 100% when you're giving the exam then when you are taking it. |
| 16:15.14 | herlo | thaddeusq: yeah |
| 16:17.31 | synic | Hunding: you there? |
| 16:18.13 | Hunding | I am |
| 16:18.21 | Hunding | how are you doing synic ? |
| 16:18.35 | synic | pretty fabulous, yourself? |
| 16:18.47 | synic | So, tell me what you've found out about your iphone so far |
| 16:18.56 | synic | what cool stuff should one know? |
| 16:19.01 | Hunding | oh just came back last night from a mini vacation...I feel pretty good about things :) |
| 16:19.03 | synic | or what no-nos should one know. |
| 16:19.47 | Hunding | I found out that you cannot get it to work under open source yet...and if you try you will b0rk your phone, and spend several days with iPhone support to reload the origianl OS |
| 16:20.12 | synic | have you found any good games? an ssh client? |
| 16:20.20 | Hunding | safari crashes if you attempt to open more than 4 windows |
| 16:20.29 | maquis | Zelut: sorry... i was busy talking to someone |
| 16:20.31 | maquis | how'd the game go? |
| 16:20.43 | Hunding | y9u cannot do email and voice at the same time...and the screen is far to sensetive... |
| 16:21.17 | Hunding | but the voice mail and mapping feature are still the best I have ever seen... |
| 16:21.32 | Hunding | no games, and no ssh :( |
| 16:21.33 | synic | yeah, I dig the maps |
| 16:21.51 | synic | I found an ssh client, but it's not the best. It does work. You can even use irssi in it |
| 16:21.59 | Hunding | really???? |
| 16:22.17 | synic | yeah, one sec and I'll create a user on this box so you can try it out |
| 16:23.39 | synic | I'd give you their URL, but last time I checked, it was down. I have the zip for it, though |
| 16:24.00 | Zelut | maquis: I'm still alive.. |
| 16:24.04 | maquis | Zelut: what are you playing as? |
| 16:24.24 | maquis | have you needed to pray yet? |
| 16:24.31 | Zelut | maquis: I don't know.. I just created a user and started moving around |
| 16:24.32 | maquis | (don't pray too often or your god will get mad) |
| 16:24.41 | Zelut | maquis: don't remember it asking for type. |
| 16:24.43 | maquis | Zelut: what's your username? |
| 16:24.48 | {phoenyx} | be a valkyrie! |
| 16:25.04 | maquis | nah... |
| 16:25.11 | Zelut | maquis: Salem |
| 16:25.13 | maquis | i've been playing as orcish barbarians recently |
| 16:25.25 | Zelut | Salem the Stripling |
| 16:25.47 | Zelut | welcome to exp level 3. w00t |
| 16:25.47 | maquis | heh... i see you found a scroll of punishment |
| 16:25.52 | Zelut | i did |
| 16:26.11 | maquis | you can weild the ball... and throw it at things |
| 16:26.20 | maquis | you're doing pretty good for a first time, though |
| 16:27.04 | Zelut | how to unlock? |
| 16:27.37 | maquis | Zelut: #force |
| 16:27.45 | maquis | Zelut: i'd suggest picking up the lichen corpses |
| 16:27.47 | maquis | they don't rot |
| 16:27.58 | maquis | (oh... and don't try to eat kobolds... they're poisonous) |
| 16:28.33 | maquis | oh |
| 16:28.34 | maquis | wait |
| 16:28.38 | maquis | you're trying to unlock a door |
| 16:28.47 | maquis | ^D will kick |
| 16:28.52 | maquis | then give the direction to the door |
| 16:29.13 | atoponce | Zelut: on a public server? |
| 16:29.13 | maquis | also, in case you didn't know, s searches |
| 16:29.20 | Zelut | atoponce: nethack.alt.org |
| 16:29.20 | atoponce | s/'// |
| 16:29.39 | Zelut | see anywhere else I should go here before I go down? |
| 16:29.52 | Zelut | also, I'm level 3 now,, anything I should config at this point? |
| 16:29.54 | maquis | nah.. i'd go down |
| 16:30.25 | Zelut | oops |
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| 16:31.05 | maquis | lol |
| 16:31.39 | Zelut | ugh |
| 16:31.50 | maquis | Zelut: #pray |
| 16:31.56 | maquis | (if you haven't recently) |
| 16:32.21 | Zelut | i gotta get rid of my ball and chain |
| 16:32.26 | maquis | btw, since you're lawful, you have a lot of restrictions that other alignments don't have |
| 16:32.37 | maquis | Zelut: yeah... you can do that with certain scrolls... |
| 16:32.42 | maquis | but as you can see, some scrolls do bad stuff |
| 16:33.07 | opapo | boy did I come in at the wrong time |
| 16:33.22 | herlo | Zelut: which ball and chain? Ubuntu? |
| 16:33.31 | maquis | heh |
| 16:33.32 | Zelut | maquis: did you just see that? I'm in trouble |
| 16:33.37 | maquis | yuo got lycanthropy |
| 16:34.06 | opapo | !define lycanthropy |
| 16:34.23 | maquis | ~dict lycanthropy |
| 16:34.42 | atoponce | the lycans |
| 16:34.46 | atoponce | ~w00t |
| 16:34.47 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 16:35.05 | atoponce | Zelut: good luck |
| 16:35.11 | maquis | Zelut: it's a fun game |
| 16:35.17 | maquis | takes forever to get the hang of it... |
| 16:35.23 | maquis | but it's killer addictive |
| 16:35.31 | opapo | What game? |
| 16:35.38 | herlo | Zelut: ooh, your still playing Nethack |
| 16:35.38 | maquis | opapo: nethack |
| 16:35.57 | Zelut | herlo: what else am I to do during section 2 :) |
| 16:36.03 | herlo | Zelut: I see, thought you were referring to your spouse or your distro like that and i thought, wow! |
| 16:36.11 | herlo | Zelut: help me with UTOSC |
| 16:36.13 | maquis | herlo: he's actually doing pretty good for being new |
| 16:36.15 | Zelut | You can't do anything.. you have no hands. |
| 16:36.16 | Zelut | great |
| 16:36.29 | herlo | Zelut: blog about Tom Welch and the amazing things he does, or Tim Riker or Pete Ashdown... |
| 16:36.44 | herlo | or Aaron |
| 16:36.47 | herlo | you know him |
| 16:36.56 | herlo | he's gonna present at the conference |
| 16:37.18 | maquis | Zelut: let me know how it goes |
| 16:37.28 | maquis | and if you have questions, i'll try to answer |
| 16:37.30 | Zelut | maquis: well I'm a wolf or something apparently and stuck |
| 16:38.01 | maquis | Zelut: no worries... you'll change back |
| 16:38.14 | maquis | or if you wait a while, you can pray and get rid of the lycanthropy |
| 16:38.22 | maquis | it's hard to know when to pray, though |
| 16:40.26 | Zelut | so I'll just hang out a while and lick my dog-butt until I change back ehh |
| 16:42.09 | maquis | sure... |
| 16:42.14 | maquis | do '100s' |
| 16:45.05 | Zelut | still a canine :) |
| 16:45.31 | maquis | how many moves have you made since your last prayer? |
| 16:45.55 | Zelut | ...you die |
| 16:46.01 | maquis | from? |
| 16:46.08 | Zelut | I changed back, but was frozen in place by some eye |
| 16:46.16 | maquis | oh... |
| 16:46.18 | maquis | floating eye |
| 16:46.47 | Zelut | killed by an orc zombie while helpless |
| 16:46.52 | maquis | have you viewed all your attributes? |
| 16:47.13 | maquis | aha |
| 16:47.14 | maquis | 12:47 < Rodney> Salem (Val Dwa Fem Law), 940 points, killed by an orc zombie, while helpless |
| 16:47.23 | Zelut | interesting |
| 16:47.30 | maquis | (that's from #nethack) |
| 16:47.39 | maquis | i don't like the fact that valkyries are always lawful |
| 16:47.40 | Zelut | who's up for a team nethack server? :) |
| 16:47.47 | {phoenyx} | yay! |
| 16:47.52 | maquis | that's why i switched to barbarians |
| 16:47.53 | maquis | sure |
| 16:47.57 | maquis | Zelut: you enjoyed it? |
| 16:48.59 | Zelut | yeah |
| 16:49.06 | maquis | :) |
| 16:49.10 | maquis | it's *really* addictive |
| 16:49.19 | maquis | and people on the bus look at me weird... :) |
| 16:49.30 | maquis | lots of people ask about the "dos game" |
| 16:49.34 | Zelut | hehe |
| 16:49.43 | Zelut | so you can just install the package locally, or play online? |
| 16:49.49 | maquis | yup |
| 16:50.04 | maquis | most people assume that since it doesn't have cool graphics and isn't real-time, it must be easy |
| 16:50.09 | Zelut | any advantage to playing online? interaction? group team stuff? |
| 16:50.23 | maquis | Zelut: online, you'll get more/better bones files... |
| 16:50.26 | Zelut | teaming up on the monsters? |
| 16:50.42 | maquis | people can look at where you are and give advice if you're stuck |
| 16:50.50 | maquis | Zelut: teaming up doesn't work |
| 16:51.03 | maquis | you don't interact at all with the other people running on the same server |
| 16:51.41 | maquis | the most interaction is ghosts and bones |
| 16:52.00 | maquis | (if you die, sometimes your possessions might show up on that level for someone else later |
| 16:52.06 | maquis | that's called bones... |
| 16:52.13 | maquis | usually, most of the items get cursed, though...) |
| 16:53.28 | opapo | how do you do "ctrl+insert" on a mac with no insert button? |
| 16:53.55 | Zelut | ... that's a good question |
| 16:54.40 | opapo | Zelut: how do you paste in a tty? |
| 16:54.58 | Zelut | shift-ctrl-V |
| 16:55.55 | opapo | Thanks |
| 17:09.44 | Yorokobi | :/ nickcolor.pl b0rks nm.pl |
| 17:10.30 | Yorokobi | atoponce, ping |
| 17:10.42 | atoponce | Yorokobi: pong |
| 17:10.55 | Yorokobi | atoponce, do you use either of the above scripts in irssi? |
| 17:11.23 | atoponce | used to. kept screwing with too many /set variables, so i don't anymore |
| 17:11.36 | atoponce | both are very 'beta' ifam |
| 17:11.47 | atoponce | s/f/y/ |
| 17:12.10 | Zelut | ?iyam |
| 17:13.01 | Yorokobi | iYam: interactive yam? |
| 17:13.12 | atoponce | if you ask me |
| 17:13.17 | Zelut | apple turns to veggies |
| 17:13.31 | Zelut | iYam - apple products for your stomach |
| 17:14.17 | {phoenyx} | steve jobs: "we've taken a regular yam and added a nice, new interface. We think you'll like it" |
| 17:14.29 | Yorokobi | Is there a spell checker script for irssi? I couldn't find one listed on irssi.org |
| 17:14.39 | Zelut | I think iyam,afaik,imnsho, etc get dangerously close to leet speak and teenage girl text-message syntax |
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| 17:23.02 | Zelut | can google reader be made to be more keyboard friendly vs mouse dependent? |
| 17:24.34 | synic | Yorokobi: /alias spell exec "echo $1 | aspell -a" |
| 17:24.45 | maquis | Zelut: i believe bloglines is working on that |
| 17:25.00 | synic | untested |
| 17:25.06 | synic | might need to use $0 instead |
| 17:34.30 | maquis | i usually just ask ibot how to spell stuff |
| 17:34.48 | maquis | ~spell nethack |
| 17:35.06 | {phoenyx} | thunk? |
| 17:35.17 | {phoenyx} | Noak? |
| 17:40.32 | maquis | ~dict thunk |
| 17:40.44 | maquis | ~dict Noak |
| 18:34.35 | opapo | I have installed bitlbee now how do I get irssi and my IMs to communicate |
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| 19:10.09 | Zelut | opapo: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bitlbee |
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| 19:27.59 | maquis | ?? |
| 19:28.02 | UtahBot | ??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] |
| 19:28.10 | maquis | ~swb |
| 19:28.11 | jbot | from memory, swb is UPHPU's resident webmistress |
| 19:29.04 | herlo | maquis: swb is a friend |
| 19:29.47 | herlo | I met her at a UPHPU meet and she's awesome. She does photography too, and it much better at it than I. |
| 19:29.56 | maquis | swb: hello |
| 19:30.05 | maquis | herlo: you do photography? |
| 19:30.20 | herlo | maquis: I figured you could use a female friend here, since there aren't that many |
| 19:30.31 | maquis | lol |
| 19:31.06 | herlo | maquis: yeah, here's some semi-decent ones I did. most of this stuff is old though... |
| 19:31.10 | herlo | http://photos.egavas.org/thumbnails.php?album=36 |
| 19:31.35 | herlo | maquis: you could also visit http://herlo.smugmug.com for my Ireland pics (at least the ones I've uploaded so far) |
| 19:31.48 | maquis | http://tuxgirl.com/photography/ |
| 19:32.17 | {phoenyx} | there's more to tuxgirl than the feb. 19 post? |
| 19:32.25 | maquis | i've got a few more that aren't posted yet -- been playing with gimp recently |
| 19:32.31 | maquis | {phoenyx}: yeah... i know... i'm slow |
| 19:33.31 | maquis | herlo: what photo software are you using? |
| 19:33.55 | herlo | maquis: coppermine, but I've given up on hosting it myself |
| 19:34.05 | herlo | http://tuxgirl.com/photography/lions_gate_bridge_1.jpg - I like this one; has potential... |
| 19:34.35 | maquis | thx :) |
| 19:34.46 | maquis | i've been enjoying playing with things a bit |
| 19:35.06 | maquis | actually, a lot of my favroite ones haven't made it to the server yet... :) |
| 19:35.43 | maquis | i like the racoons, but i wish i could've gotten him from the front instead of from the top |
| 19:36.06 | herlo | racoons are nice, but not enough contrast IMO |
| 19:36.29 | maquis | :) |
| 19:36.43 | herlo | I like the 2nd quail one |
| 19:37.22 | maquis | one of these days, i'm going to get this set up with a web-gallery... it needs to be one that can handle just being handed a dir structure, and treating it as a hierarchical set of pictures |
| 19:37.42 | maquis | but once i get that, it'll have the ability for people to make comments |
| 19:37.56 | herlo | I like this one of mine a lot: http://photos.egavas.org/displayimage.php?pid=903&fullsize=1 |
| 19:38.14 | maquis | ooh... that is nice |
| 19:38.21 | herlo | maquis: apparently gallery can do that. I like smugmug because it does everything. |
| 19:38.41 | maquis | i would straighten it out a bit... it seems slightly uneven.. |
| 19:38.43 | herlo | maquis: that's a small version of the original, save space |
| 19:38.48 | maquis | :) |
| 19:38.51 | herlo | maquis: its intended uneven |
| 19:38.54 | maquis | ah |
| 19:39.17 | maquis | http://tuxgirl.com/photography/timp_caves/valley.jpg |
| 19:40.03 | herlo | or this one: http://photos.egavas.org/displayimage.php?pid=907&fullsize=1 |
| 19:40.28 | maquis | ooh... i like the boats |
| 19:40.29 | herlo | the one you show makes me think: what's at the bottom of the canyon. I like the sensation... |
| 19:40.38 | maquis | :) |
| 19:40.55 | herlo | photography talks to me. I see something and I can make a picture look that way a lot of the time.. |
| 19:41.37 | herlo | I wouldn't |
| 19:41.50 | herlo | did it one year in August, ubt just to the caves |
| 19:42.06 | herlo | I've actually hiked to the lake on top of timp itself |
| 19:47.38 | swb | maquis: hello (slightly delayed) |
| 19:48.15 | swb | maquis: best server site gallery is http://gallery.menalto.com/ |
| 19:48.34 | herlo | swb: maquis: http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3087022#168583891-L-LB |
| 19:48.38 | herlo | I like that one a lot |
| 19:48.43 | herlo | I took it by accident actually. |
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| 19:48.59 | maquis | swb: i've looked at gallery... didn't like it a lot |
| 19:49.19 | swb | y? |
| 19:49.28 | swb | herlo: I like that image, nice |
| 19:49.42 | maquis | swb: i couldn't seem to get it to treat things the way i wanted it to |
| 19:50.03 | swb | it probably just needs a little massaging, it can do a lot of stuff |
| 19:50.30 | maquis | i really want it to just completely work off of my directory structure |
| 19:50.41 | herlo | swb: http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3087022#168613110-L-LB |
| 19:50.47 | herlo | I figure you'd like that one... |
| 19:50.49 | maquis | i couldn't figure out the right way to do that the way i wanted |
| 19:51.13 | swb | you want light, gallery is a rather involved little app |
| 19:51.33 | maquis | yeah |
| 19:51.40 | maquis | i like light-weight stuff, generally |
| 19:51.51 | swb | what about flash then? |
| 19:51.53 | herlo | http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3087022#168636023-L-LB |
| 19:51.59 | maquis | swb: nah... don't like flash |
| 19:52.15 | maquis | i use freebsd on my home machines... flash isn't supported at all |
| 19:52.15 | swb | I didn't used to like flash either |
| 19:53.00 | herlo | http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3087022#168638022-L-LB |
| 19:53.06 | swb | herlo... looks familiar!, makes me want to visit Ireland again |
| 19:53.17 | herlo | swb: I figured you might like the sheepies |
| 19:53.26 | swb | yep |
| 19:53.52 | herlo | swb: but that last one is a picture of the 99 steps from Mizen Head. The most southwesterly point on all of Ireland. |
| 19:54.01 | swb | I have exactly the same types of images... |
| 19:54.03 | herlo | that's been there a long time. |
| 19:54.14 | herlo | did you go to Mizen Head? |
| 19:54.15 | swb | not the steps, the coffee & sheep |
| 19:54.27 | herlo | yeah, I really like the coffee one... |
| 19:54.34 | herlo | but there's one more... |
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| 19:54.49 | swb | http://www.istockphoto.com/file_closeup.php?id=788648 |
| 19:54.50 | herlo | http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3087022#168636559-L-LB |
| 19:55.09 | herlo | swb: you took that? |
| 19:55.34 | swb | yep |
| 19:56.20 | herlo | swb: I want stock photos on my portfolio too! |
| 19:56.41 | swb | I want to maybe get into product photography |
| 19:57.07 | herlo | swb: what camera are you using again? |
| 19:57.12 | swb | canon 20d |
| 19:57.20 | herlo | ahh, I've got the 10d |
| 19:57.31 | herlo | well, a digital rebel hacked to be like the 10d |
| 19:57.38 | swb | have to do stock to support my phototgraphy habit |
| 19:57.48 | swb | sounds plenty good |
| 19:57.54 | herlo | yeah, so crisp, so clean in the pictures... |
| 19:58.08 | herlo | lighting is a bit better too. I think you had sunnier days than I did |
| 19:58.14 | herlo | mine were all bleck |
| 19:58.21 | herlo | usually darker than I wanted |
| 19:58.40 | herlo | where did maquis go? |
| 19:59.38 | maquis | sorry... i'm back now |
| 20:00.04 | herlo | http://herlo.smugmug.com/gallery/3087022#168636023-L-LB |
| 20:00.52 | maquis | what are teh 20d and 10d? |
| 20:00.56 | maquis | i have the a620 |
| 20:01.38 | herlo | canon Digital SLRs |
| 20:02.14 | herlo | maquis: you can get a DSLR for a good deal from someone I know... |
| 20:04.35 | maquis | herlo: no money at the moment... |
| 20:04.57 | maquis | for now i'm sticking with what i've got, at least until i get to the point where it's not good enough |
| 20:05.01 | herlo | maquis: what fun are you? I was the one I knew too |
| 20:05.08 | herlo | :) |
| 20:05.17 | maquis | herlo: sorry... |
| 20:05.31 | maquis | starving newlyweds, you know... :) |
| 20:05.33 | herlo | maquis: its okay, I like my camera. I'll keep it for a while longer... |
| 20:05.46 | herlo | maquis: you should have waited until you had money! :) |
| 20:05.56 | maquis | herlo: we did... then we bought a house |
| 20:06.01 | herlo | haha |
| 20:06.18 | kissotdragon | what kind of camera is it? I may be interested |
| 20:12.14 | herlo | http://search.ebay.com/canon-300d_W0QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ3QQsbrsrtZl |
| 20:12.43 | maquis | who uses ebay to display what something is? |
| 20:12.50 | herlo | maquis: me |
| 20:13.03 | herlo | maquis: that way you can see what a fair value might be |
| 20:13.15 | herlo | why? Should I use Amazon? |
| 20:13.29 | maquis | :) |
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| 20:33.53 | lost^alien | wow! everyone must be hard at work |
| 20:34.08 | herlo | lost^alien: we were talking before you got here. |
| 20:34.44 | lost^alien | that's usually the case. Things always get quiet when I show up. |
| 20:40.51 | opapo | If I don't have xinetd.d in my /etc folder do I need to install something if I want to use an xinetd service? |
| 20:41.33 | opapo | can I have xinetd and inetd concurrently installed? |
| 20:46.33 | Yorokobi | opapo, either install xinetd or modify /etc/inetd.conf as follows |
| 20:46.47 | Yorokobi | add: 6667 stream tcp nowait bitlbee /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/bitlbee |
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| 20:54.27 | opapo | Yorokobi: I was following the instructions Zelut gave me at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bitlbee |
| 20:54.42 | opapo | I said to modify the xinetd.d directory |
| 20:55.10 | opapo | Thank you for showing me that the inetd file (already modified) is the file I needed to look at. |
| 20:55.25 | Yorokobi | opapo, yeah, but if you don't install xinetd (as I don't b/c of a conflict with vmware-server) then the inetd.conf entry is the way to go |
| 20:56.03 | opapo | I use vmware-server as well |
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| 21:11.12 | opapo | I'm not so impressed with bitlbee with 15 minutes of playing with it |
| 21:11.21 | opapo | sorry to be the first here |
| 21:12.08 | opapo | I still prefer gaim to bitlbee. |
| 21:12.55 | {phoenyx} | if I did mostly IRC I'd probably switch away |
| 21:13.28 | opapo | I'm used to just typing a message in a box |
| 21:13.53 | opapo | I now need to make sure the persons nic is previous to message |
| 21:14.12 | herlo | opapo: irssi is the key there. If you aren't comfortable with irc in irssi or something, bitlbee's not gonna help |
| 21:14.56 | opapo | herlo: I'm a gui man |
| 21:15.10 | herlo | opapo: me too |
| 21:15.17 | herlo | opapo: well not really |
| 21:15.35 | opapo | herlo: I didn't think so |
| 21:17.17 | herlo | opapo: http://hci-matters.com/blog/?p=8 - you might like this article |
| 21:21.00 | {phoenyx} | I mostly use the keyboard |
| 21:21.13 | {phoenyx} | but I don't like to browser with a keyboard |
| 21:21.32 | {phoenyx} | 'cause I like to be able to go directly to a link to click it |
| 21:21.33 | herlo | {phoenyx}: you gotta read this article and especially the follow-up |
| 21:22.21 | opapo | herlo: I didn't read the whole article, because I read slowly. |
| 21:22.28 | opapo | but I get the gist |
| 21:22.43 | herlo | opapo: its a nice idea. You should read the follow-up too |
| 21:22.55 | opapo | I guess what I was trying to say is I like the gui of gaim |
| 21:23.13 | opapo | I like shortcuts and stuff |
| 21:24.32 | opapo | I guess my big hang up, and maybe you can help me with this, is the fact that I had to look up instructions on-line for how to configure it |
| 21:25.18 | opapo | I also didn't like the fact that I had to use the persons nic that I wanted to talk to when he was the only one that I had a conversation open with |
| 21:26.13 | opapo | I'm not saying I can't do these things, I just don't like the fact that I have to configure it by hand instead of through a wizard |
| 21:26.39 | herlo | opapo: use /msg nick |
| 21:26.49 | herlo | opapo: its the same as any other irc client |
| 21:26.58 | opapo | and I can't just type "brb" instead of "/msg nick message" |
| 21:27.02 | herlo | the point is that it'll be one interface instead of too... |
| 21:27.13 | herlo | yeah, you type /msg nick message |
| 21:27.17 | opapo | two? or too? |
| 21:27.23 | herlo | then change the windo |
| 21:27.28 | herlo | yeah, two |
| 21:27.41 | herlo | with <esc>-window# |
| 21:27.41 | opapo | change the window? |
| 21:27.56 | opapo | hold on |
| 21:28.04 | herlo | that's an irssi thing |
| 21:28.15 | herlo | opapo: like ubuntu-utah is window 4 |
| 21:28.49 | herlo | so I'd type <esc> 4 (separately) and alt+4 might work too depending on how many gnome-terminal windows you have open... |
| 21:29.04 | opapo | I thought when using bitlbee I had to type "/msg nick message" everytime I wanted to send a message. |
| 21:29.49 | herlo | no |
| 21:29.57 | herlo | that's a waste |
| 21:30.08 | opapo | my point exactly |
| 21:30.19 | heartsbane | #ubuntu-utah is window 4, what is #1 |
| 21:30.22 | herlo | opapo: if I message you either in a pm or a im, I just move to the window where i've messaged you |
| 21:30.31 | herlo | heartsbane: my connections |
| 21:30.42 | herlo | so here's my order |
| 21:30.50 | herlo | #1 is connection status and messages |
| 21:30.57 | herlo | #2 is bitlbee and my buddy lists |
| 21:31.00 | herlo | #3 is #utah |
| 21:31.03 | herlo | #4 is here |
| 21:31.06 | herlo | #5 is uphpu |
| 21:31.09 | herlo | #6 is #utos |
| 21:31.13 | herlo | #7 is Zelut pm |
| 21:31.17 | herlo | #8 is mindjuju pm |
| 21:31.24 | herlo | er #8 is sontek pm |
| 21:31.30 | herlo | #9 is mindjuju pm |
| 21:31.42 | heartsbane | O |
| 21:32.04 | herlo | #10 is fozzmoo |
| 21:32.11 | opapo | how do you pm in a different window with bitlbee? |
| 21:32.32 | herlo | #11 (which would be the q key) is beandog, and so on |
| 21:32.40 | herlo | opapo: first you type /msg opapo hello |
| 21:32.56 | herlo | opapo: bitlbee doesn't do pm |
| 21:33.26 | herlo | bitlbee is an im gateway which then you use irssi or some other irc client to interface with it |
| 21:33.59 | herlo | opapo: so you only IM with bitlbee, but it looks like your own personal irc channel for your IM buddies |
| 21:35.05 | opapo | ok, but I would still like to say "brb" to an im buddy and type just "brb" |
| 21:35.08 | herlo | make sense? |
| 21:35.11 | opapo | how do I do that? |
| 21:35.14 | herlo | k |
| 21:35.21 | herlo | opapo: are you using irssi? |
| 21:35.25 | opapo | yes |
| 21:35.31 | herlo | k, how do you move windows now? |
| 21:35.45 | opapo | esc+# |
| 21:35.48 | herlo | right |
| 21:35.49 | herlo | so |
| 21:35.56 | herlo | once you get a bitlbee windo |
| 21:36.00 | opapo | bitlbee is #3 |
| 21:36.03 | herlo | k |
| 21:36.04 | herlo | go there |
| 21:36.05 | herlo | type |
| 21:36.21 | herlo | do you have me as a buddy? |
| 21:36.27 | herlo | type blist |
| 21:36.30 | opapo | not yet |
| 21:36.37 | herlo | k, add me <herlo1@gmail.com> |
| 21:37.08 | herlo | opapo: let me know when you've got me added |
| 21:37.19 | UtahBot | [Ubuntuforums] major beryl problems - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=505712 |
| 21:37.34 | herlo | ~lart UtahBot |
| 21:37.34 | jbot | pushes the wall down onto UtahBot whilst whistling innocently |
| 21:39.35 | opapo | I'm having troubles adding you |
| 21:40.09 | opapo | add localhost herlo@gmail.com |
| 21:40.09 | herlo | opapo: help account add jabber |
| 21:40.17 | herlo | opapo: no |
| 21:40.24 | herlo | its in the format I show... |
| 21:40.45 | herlo | go to the bitlbee window and type: help account add jabber |
| 21:40.59 | herlo | opapo: you do have a googletalk account set up, right? |
| 21:41.05 | herlo | in bitlbee that is |
| 21:42.51 | opapo | I think I did it right |
| 21:43.12 | opapo | account sucessfully added |
| 21:43.18 | herlo | k |
| 21:43.21 | herlo | now |
| 21:43.31 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.34 | herlo | in the bitlbee window |
| 21:44.00 | herlo | then when you see a new window pop up in irssi (on the status bar), then you've done it correctly |
| 21:44.27 | herlo | opapo: but your account may not be on because it should ask me to approve you... |
| 21:44.37 | opapo | sorry |
| 21:44.47 | opapo | that didn't work for me |
| 21:44.49 | herlo | opapo: you see me right |
| 21:44.53 | herlo | I saw your message |
| 21:45.00 | herlo | look in your status bar |
| 21:45.14 | herlo | though that's from irc |
| 21:45.21 | opapo | I don't have a status bar |
| 21:45.25 | herlo | yes youdo |
| 21:45.31 | herlo | opapo: right above where you are typing |
| 21:45.44 | herlo | it says something like: [15:36] [herlo(+ei)] [4:#ubuntu-utah(+nt)] [Act: 3,5] |
| 21:46.10 | herlo | it has to be there. I've looked at many other peoples irssi and its the same |
| 21:46.25 | opapo | I have a status bar |
| 21:46.29 | herlo | :) |
| 21:46.33 | opapo | another problem |
| 21:46.37 | herlo | okay |
| 21:46.46 | herlo | so on the bitlbee page, do this |
| 21:46.48 | herlo | account list |
| 21:47.04 | herlo | if your accounts are on, it'll tell you the word on... |
| 21:47.06 | herlo | mine look like this |
| 21:47.22 | opapo | I do "blist" and I don't see you |
| 21:47.22 | herlo | 15:38 <@herlo> account list |
| 21:47.22 | herlo | 15:38 <@root> 0. OSCAR, herlo on login.oscar.aol.com (connected) |
| 21:47.22 | herlo | 15:38 <@root> 1. JABBER, herlo1@gmail.com (connected) |
| 21:47.22 | herlo | 15:38 <@root> 2. MSN, clint@herlo.org (connected) |
| 21:47.23 | herlo | 15:38 <@root> End of account list |
| 21:47.29 | herlo | opapo: don't do that yet |
| 21:47.34 | herlo | to account list |
| 21:47.37 | herlo | do |
| 21:47.57 | herlo | as you can see, I'm on three IM chanels right now... |
| 21:48.03 | herlo | (connected) |
| 21:48.12 | herlo | opapo: what do you get? |
| 21:48.33 | opapo | 15:48 <@opapo> account list |
| 21:48.33 | opapo | 15:48 <@root> 0. MSN, teletautala |
| 21:48.33 | opapo | 15:48 <@root> 1. MSN, teletautala@hotmail.com (connected) |
| 21:48.33 | opapo | 15:48 <@root> 2. JABBER, herlo1@gmail.com |
| 21:48.46 | herlo | opapo: okay, I see your problem.. |
| 21:48.54 | herlo | that last one isn't how its to be |
| 21:48.57 | Yorokobi | opapo, account del 2 |
| 21:49.01 | herlo | if you want to add a service... |
| 21:49.05 | herlo | don't add me... |
| 21:49.44 | opapo | I don't know how to add you as a buddy |
| 21:50.32 | herlo | k, you can add me in your msn if you prefer |
| 21:51.10 | opapo | hold on |
| 21:51.12 | herlo | add 3 clint@herlo.org |
| 21:51.54 | herlo | opapo: in about 20minutes time, I have to start grading. So hopefully we cna get this working by then... |
| 21:52.30 | opapo | i hope so too |
| 21:52.33 | herlo | oh, wait |
| 21:52.34 | herlo | use |
| 21:52.40 | herlo | add 1 clint@herlo.org |
| 21:52.44 | herlo | that should work... |
| 21:52.54 | herlo | and do account del 2 |
| 21:53.04 | herlo | your gtalk one is messed up |
| 21:53.29 | opapo | add 1 clint@herlo.org worked |
| 21:53.40 | opapo | I did account del 1 |
| 21:53.42 | opapo | I did account del 2 |
| 21:53.46 | opapo | sorry |
| 21:53.50 | opapo | not the first |
| 21:53.51 | herlo | nooooo |
| 21:53.53 | herlo | okay |
| 21:53.54 | herlo | woo |
| 21:53.56 | herlo | that was close |
| 21:53.58 | herlo | now |
| 21:54.08 | herlo | type /msg clint<tab> |
| 21:54.14 | herlo | what do you get. Don't hit enter |
| 21:54.16 | opapo | 15:53 <@root> User `clint@herlo.org' added to your contact list as `clint_' |
| 21:54.45 | herlo | I see your request to buddy up! W00t!! |
| 21:54.48 | herlo | ~w00t! |
| 21:54.49 | jbot | There it is! |
| 21:55.01 | opapo | ~w00t! |
| 21:55.02 | jbot | There it is! |
| 21:55.13 | herlo | opapo: what do you get? |
| 21:55.36 | opapo | now I typed /msg clint_<tab> and all it did was put a space at the end |
| 21:55.48 | herlo | and add hello and hit enter... |
| 21:56.12 | herlo | opapo: ?? |
| 21:56.18 | Yorokobi | opapo, messaging via bitlbee is just like sending pm's in IRC |
| 21:56.28 | herlo | yes |
| 21:56.30 | Yorokobi | ... at least for the initial message |
| 21:56.38 | herlo | opapo: now, you should have a message back from me |
| 21:57.08 | opapo | Yorokobi: i want IM like messaging with bitlbee |
| 21:57.44 | herlo | opapo: exactly |
| 21:57.54 | Yorokobi | "IM like"? |
| 21:57.55 | herlo | opapo: now look on your status bar |
| 21:58.07 | herlo | Yorokobi: he means pm like |
| 21:58.14 | herlo | do you see the new ping number? |
| 21:58.17 | herlo | pink |
| 21:58.23 | herlo | or pinkish? |
| 21:58.24 | opapo | hold on |
| 21:58.38 | opapo | I don't want to type /msg all the time |
| 21:58.46 | opapo | I don't see a pinkish number |
| 21:58.56 | opapo | in the status bar |
| 21:59.08 | herlo | your opapo in the status bar of irssi |
| 21:59.12 | opapo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.23 | herlo | opapo: what #'s do you have? |
| 21:59.29 | opapo | that is what I see in the status bar when in bitlbee |
| 21:59.30 | herlo | opapo: did you identify in bitlbee? |
| 21:59.36 | Yorokobi | opapo, you don't have to use /msg for each message, just for the first one that _you_ start with someone else. /msg is analogous with double-clicking the person's user name in a GUI IM client |
| 21:59.45 | herlo | Yorokobi: he knows that |
| 22:00.20 | herlo | opapo: it appears you've not registered or identified with bitlbee, you've gotta do that just like you do in irc when you login |
| 22:00.23 | herlo | so |
| 22:00.36 | herlo | opapo: type 'register <yourpassowrd> in the bitlbee window |
| 22:00.42 | opapo | I did that |
| 22:00.50 | herlo | then did yo log out? |
| 22:00.54 | herlo | and back in? |
| 22:01.02 | herlo | of bitlbee |
| 22:01.20 | herlo | since you did it the first time? |
| 22:01.25 | herlo | opapo: ?? |
| 22:01.57 | opapo | I was IMing some one before using bitlbee, but I had to type "/msg nick message" or "nick: message" everytime I wanted to talk to the person |
| 22:02.20 | herlo | opapo: yeah |
| 22:02.22 | herlo | I know |
| 22:02.32 | herlo | opapo: could you answer my question now? |
| 22:02.37 | opapo | ok |
| 22:02.43 | herlo | as above |
| 22:02.54 | herlo | did you log out and back in since you registered? |
| 22:03.01 | opapo | I will log out and log back in |
| 22:03.03 | herlo | with bitlbee? |
| 22:03.04 | herlo | no |
| 22:03.06 | herlo | don't |
| 22:03.14 | herlo | I asked the question to find out information |
| 22:03.18 | opapo | ok |
| 22:03.29 | herlo | opapo: did you log out and back in since you've registered?? |
| 22:03.34 | opapo | no |
| 22:03.38 | herlo | really?? |
| 22:03.42 | opapo | really |
| 22:03.45 | herlo | k |
| 22:03.54 | herlo | because it seems to not be identifying you |
| 22:03.55 | herlo | try this |
| 22:04.01 | herlo | identify <yourpassword> |
| 22:04.04 | herlo | in bitlbee |
| 22:04.13 | herlo | what do you get? |
| 22:04.27 | opapo | password accepted |
| 22:04.41 | herlo | okay, now try messaging me |
| 22:04.55 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:05.25 | herlo | do you now see a pink number on the status bar in irssi? |
| 22:05.33 | opapo | no |
| 22:05.37 | herlo | damn it!! |
| 22:05.40 | herlo | you should. |
| 22:05.46 | opapo | I did not see your response either time |
| 22:05.51 | opapo | none times |
| 22:05.59 | opapo | I see it in this window |
| 22:06.07 | herlo | type qlist |
| 22:06.21 | herlo | if you see unanswered questions, you must answer them yes |
| 22:06.22 | opapo | there are no pending questions |
| 22:06.32 | herlo | because I can see you |
| 22:06.47 | opapo | I can see you in my blist |
| 22:06.55 | herlo | so message me |
| 22:07.22 | herlo | opapo: then try esc-# for every number on your computer til you ifnd me because I am there! |
| 22:07.25 | herlo | I gotta be! |
| 22:07.27 | herlo | :) |
| 22:08.23 | Yorokobi | herlo, that brings up a question: What do you use when the number of irssi windows is >9 ? How do you get to window 10, 11. 12, et cetera? |
| 22:08.27 | opapo | I see you, but your messages from clint@herlo.org show up in #ubuntu-utah |
| 22:08.31 | opapo | which is my #1 |
| 22:10.46 | herlo | Yorokobi: the qwerty letters |
| 22:10.53 | herlo | atoponce just posed on this... |
| 22:11.05 | herlo | opapo: I don't think so, but I've gotta do grading now... |
| 22:11.33 | opapo | I will be waiting.... |
| 22:11.35 | opapo | or not |
| 22:11.54 | herlo | okay, ask Zelut or atoponce or Yorokobi to help you more, they all know it... |
| 22:12.28 | opapo | the im's seem to come in whatever window i am in |
| 22:13.07 | herlo | opapo: that seems odd |
| 22:13.19 | opapo | is there a clue there? |
| 22:13.59 | opapo | Yorokobi: how do you get bitlbee to open a new window for each person you IM? |
| 22:15.09 | {phoenyx} | so, question for you gurus |
| 22:15.39 | {phoenyx} | I'm trying to run a program with a & so I can log out and leave it running |
| 22:15.56 | {phoenyx} | but the & is being interpreted as a parameter for the program |
| 22:16.23 | {phoenyx} | how do I run a process without it dying as soon as I exit? |
| 22:17.27 | Yorokobi | opapo, it happens automatically for me. In the btlbee window, I '/msg someone some message' and it opens up a new window for me with my message to someone. |
| 22:18.13 | opapo | Yorokobi: It sends the message to the person, but it doesn't open a new window for me |
| 22:18.30 | opapo | I get the other persons IMs in which ever window is active |
| 22:19.01 | Yorokobi | huh, that is some strangeness there. Not sure what to tell you. |
| 22:20.08 | opapo | what you were saying earlier was that if I could /msg someone and then it would open in a new window and I would never need to type /msg again as long as I was in that window? |
| 22:20.32 | Yorokobi | opapo, that's the way it is supposed to work, yes |
| 22:20.52 | opapo | It would be nice if it worked like it was supposed to |
| 22:23.25 | opapo | how do I configure irssi to do this? |
| 22:26.30 | Yorokobi | opapo, type 'set autocreate_split_windows' is it ON or OFF |
| 22:26.39 | Yorokobi | bah, that's not what I want |
| 22:26.43 | Yorokobi | 1m |
| 22:27.50 | Yorokobi | opapo: okay, 'set autocreate_windows' |
| 22:28.17 | Yorokobi | er, /set autocreate_windows |
| 22:29.20 | atoponce | herlo: you rang? |
| 22:29.49 | atoponce | Yorokobi: opapo: need help with irssi? |
| 22:30.09 | opapo | atoponce: I think we got it |
| 22:30.13 | Yorokobi | atoponce, I have a question but we've been trying to square opapo away first |
| 22:30.27 | opapo | nope |
| 22:30.31 | atoponce | ok. if there's anything i can do to help, let me know |
| 22:30.33 | opapo | that didn't work |
| 22:30.38 | atoponce | what's up? |
| 22:30.46 | Yorokobi | opapo, is the value of autocreate_windows ON or OFF ? |
| 22:31.01 | opapo | how do i find that out |
| 22:31.08 | atoponce | /set autocreate_windows |
| 22:31.23 | opapo | will that tell me what it is? |
| 22:31.31 | atoponce | yes |
| 22:31.41 | opapo | on |
| 22:31.41 | atoponce | the result will be in the status window |
| 22:31.57 | opapo | it doesn't show up in the status window |
| 22:32.08 | atoponce | where does it show? |
| 22:32.10 | opapo | it shows up like a message |
| 22:32.17 | Yorokobi | which is normal |
| 22:32.25 | atoponce | hmmm... |
| 22:32.31 | atoponce | it should show up in the status by default |
| 22:32.41 | Yorokobi | atoponce, upgrade irssi :) |
| 22:32.49 | atoponce | 0.8.11? |
| 22:33.14 | opapo | do I need to do the "for all the lazy people" section of http://irssi.org/documentation/startup |
| 22:33.29 | Yorokobi | atoponce, well then, never mind :) |
| 22:33.51 | atoponce | Yorokobi: i'm on 0.8.10. i was wondering if this was the version you guys are working on |
| 22:33.59 | Yorokobi | yeah, I have 0.8.11 |
| 22:34.11 | atoponce | from feisty? |
| 22:34.18 | atoponce | or from source? |
| 22:34.19 | Yorokobi | affirmative |
| 22:34.22 | atoponce | ok |
| 22:34.34 | atoponce | irssi is running on my dapper server... |
| 22:34.46 | atoponce | i guess i could compile from source, but i don't see the need |
| 22:34.53 | atoponce | so, what are we working on? |
| 22:35.28 | Yorokobi | atoponce, opapo's irssi doesn't seem to be creating new windows when he uses /msg <nick> somemessage |
| 22:35.44 | atoponce | where do they end up? |
| 22:35.54 | opapo | in the active window |
| 22:36.44 | atoponce | /set autocreate_own_query on |
| 22:37.14 | opapo | didn't work for me |
| 22:37.34 | atoponce | didn't work? |
| 22:37.36 | opapo | atoponce: just showed up in the active screen |
| 22:38.44 | atoponce | try /set autocreate_own_query msgs |
| 22:39.25 | opapo | no worky |
| 22:39.32 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 22:40.08 | opapo | phone... |
| 22:40.31 | atoponce | are you doing '/msg atoponce message' ? |
| 22:41.06 | opapo | no worky |
| 22:41.34 | atoponce | opapo: /join #irssi |
| 22:41.40 | opapo | will do |
| 22:42.33 | atoponce | is /set use_msgs_window off ? |
| 22:43.22 | opapo | it is set to off |
| 22:43.32 | atoponce | try it with on |
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| 22:46.23 | opapo | atoponce: can you see this? |
| 22:46.32 | opapo | atoponce: my messages |
| 22:46.45 | atoponce | i see your messages in i pm window |
| 22:46.54 | atoponce | the last two you just typed, however, are in the channel |
| 22:47.14 | atoponce | get that? |
| 22:47.36 | atoponce | (the pm i sent) |
| 22:48.10 | atoponce | {phoenyx}: run the program: './some_prog.sh' |
| 22:48.13 | opapo | I get your messages, but I can't see mine |
| 22:48.21 | atoponce | then press 'ctrl-z' then type 'bg' |
| 22:48.25 | atoponce | and you're golden |
| 22:49.01 | atoponce | opapo: come into #irssi. tons of help there. i've been asking there thus far. :) |
| 22:49.03 | {phoenyx} | okay |
| 22:49.14 | opapo | atoponce: will do |
| 22:50.00 | atoponce | if you try to /join #irssi, what is happening? i don't see you coming in... |
| 23:07.44 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah Yorokobi (n=cwilliam@unaffiliated/yorokobi) |
| 23:15.08 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah {phoenyx} (n=tthorley@64.147.152.13) |
| 23:22.13 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah opap1 (n=daniel@205.118.116.107) |
| 23:22.26 | opap1 | atoponce: can you see me |
| 23:23.42 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah opap1 (n=daniel@205.118.116.107) |
| 23:27.50 | Zelut | I can see you |
| 23:35.06 | sontek | we can't see him anymore! |
| 23:35.08 | sontek | hes sneaky |
| 23:36.03 | epotter | Hey all - what r u folks using to rip DVD's so you can view them on an iPod? |
| 23:36.11 | Zelut | how do you spell shenanigans? |
| 23:36.18 | Zelut | !spell shennanigans |
| 23:36.19 | atoponce | i'll get him running irssi yet... |
| 23:36.30 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah Utah_Dave (n=boucha@72-166-51-162.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 23:36.49 | Zelut | I'm going to wring that bots neck. Is that not valid? |
| 23:37.09 | Hearts|Laptop | Which bot? |
| 23:37.25 | Hearts|Laptop | Maybe I should pay attention more |
| 23:37.31 | Hearts|Laptop | to IRC that is |
| 23:38.18 | Zelut | Hearts|Laptop: either of our useless bots who never listen to me. |
| 23:38.23 | Zelut | ~spell shennanigans |
| 23:38.35 | sontek | SEHBANG! |
| 23:38.53 | Zelut | I want to spell that fun word meaning to cause trouble--to generally behave like Hearts|Laptop |
| 23:39.08 | Zelut | sontek: did you get your trip figured out to PDX? |
| 23:39.16 | epotter | Ugh, I need to change my background color in irssi. How would I do that? |
| 23:39.33 | sontek | Zelut: i'm just driving out |
| 23:39.44 | sontek | Zelut: I'm leaving Tuesday morning |
| 23:39.57 | sontek | epotter: change it on your terminal |
| 23:39.57 | Zelut | epotter: switch themes. I suggest madcow on a white-on-black terminal |
| 23:40.07 | Zelut | sontek: so just OSCON for you then? |
| 23:40.23 | epotter | Zelut: I'm using madcow, but my BG is white. |
| 23:40.28 | epotter | So I can't see what I just typed. |
| 23:40.39 | Zelut | epotter: so go to your gnome-terminal options and switch the colors |
| 23:41.05 | Hearts|Laptop | Zelut: What exactly do you mean when you say "to generally behave like Hearts|Laptop"? |
| 23:41.16 | sontek | Zelut: yeah |
| 23:42.08 | epotter | OH! That's much nicer. |
| 23:42.08 | Zelut | Hearts|Laptop: to be a smartass, someone with a quick wit. To lurk and troll for comments |
| 23:42.33 | Zelut | sontek: Come see me at the Fedora booth. I'll be there Wed. |
| 23:42.42 | epotter | Ok, different question/subject change. |
| 23:42.56 | epotter | How do you rip a DVD to something viewable on an iPod? |
| 23:43.06 | sontek | Zelut: Trader! |
| 23:43.11 | sontek | Zelut: don't like Jono see you there! ;) |
| 23:43.15 | Zelut | I have no idea. anyone here have a video ipod? |
| 23:43.35 | Zelut | sontek: we're all on the same team dude, plus that gets me into OSCON as a volunteer ;) |
| 23:43.39 | sontek | Zelut: I don't have a video ipod but I see a lot of information on google on how to do it |
| 23:44.00 | sontek | Zelut: but probably to exhibitions only |
| 23:44.02 | Zelut | huzzah |
| 23:44.11 | Zelut | better than nothing |
| 23:44.13 | Hearts|Laptop | Zelut: I am overcome with need to thank you for the compliment, as well as pointing me out as a menace. This is truly is a "Sweet and Sour" moment in IRC |
| 23:44.39 | Hearts|Laptop | Hey but on a serious everyone enjoy your weekend |
| 23:44.52 | Zelut | Hearts|Laptop: no problem. You been making use of al the helpful stuff you learned at last weeks meet? |
| 23:45.11 | sontek | ~pee Hearts|Laptop |
| 23:45.12 | jbot | ACTION pee's upon Hearts|Laptop like a waterfall. |
| 23:45.14 | Zelut | I need to find an outlet in this airport. |
| 23:45.25 | Zelut | looks like sontek is making use of the one thing he learned |
| 23:45.31 | sontek | :D |
| 23:46.26 | sontek | Thats all I remember from the meet! |
| 23:46.32 | Zelut | i'm sure it is |
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| 23:48.41 | Hearts|Laptop | Zelut: Oh ya you always learn one or two new things, I didn't know 'cal', I was intrigue by the discussion by herlo on umask, and how octal bits count backwards(which makes perfect sense). |
| 23:49.33 | Zelut | bbiab |
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| 23:59.14 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah epotter (n=epotter@205.162.54.94) |
