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| 00:14.57 | Zelut | np |
| 00:42.14 | Zelut | anyone know how to program actions into our friendly bots? |
| 00:44.52 | Gate | where are they served from and what language are they in? |
| 00:46.04 | Zelut | Gate: well Utahbot is on atoponce's server and jbot_ is a Tim Riker project.. |
| 00:46.20 | Zelut | Utahbot is an eggdrop and jbot_ is bloot...? I think. |
| 00:46.36 | Zelut | I thought you could interactively teach them things here--I've seen some other users do it, but I can't remember how. |
| 00:48.17 | Gate | jbot_: !help |
| 00:48.20 | Gate | !help |
| 00:48.58 | Gate | !help gets a response out of UtahBot |
| 00:50.08 | Zelut | ~help |
| 00:51.47 | Zelut | I see how to set definitions, but not actions |
| 01:01.40 | Zelut | atoponce: ping - that california stuff |
| 01:52.07 | maquis | it's not too hard to teach ibot |
| 01:52.18 | maquis | never done anything with UtahBot myself, though |
| 02:08.29 | Zelut | maquis: how can I train jbot_ on an action then? |
| 03:51.22 | maquis | ~zelut $foo is <action> hits $foo repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
| 03:51.23 | jbot | ACTION explains to $foo is <action> hits $foo repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken that 'gay' is not a gender. |
| 03:51.37 | maquis | ~no, zelut $foo is <action> hits $foo repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
| 03:51.50 | maquis | ~zelut Zelut |
| 03:51.51 | jbot | ACTION explains to Zelut that 'gay' is not a gender. |
| 03:52.02 | maquis | ~no zelut $foo is <action> hits $foo repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
| 03:52.03 | jbot | okay, maquis |
| 03:52.06 | maquis | ~zelut Zelut |
| 03:52.06 | jbot | ACTION hits Zelut repeatedly over the head with a rubber chicken |
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| 05:21.34 | Zelut | anyone have any experience with qemu? |
| 05:23.28 | Zelut | I have a guest installed which I would like to access via its IP over http. Anyone know how to do that? |
| 05:23.58 | Zelut | the guest has outside network access.. |
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| 06:43.57 | Zelut | tristanbob: ping |
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| 06:49.26 | herlo | Zelut: ping |
| 06:50.02 | herlo | Zelut: I've never done http access to a qemu guest, but vnc would work that way probably |
| 07:01.07 | Zelut | herlo: well I'm wanting to setup a test service on the guest and access it directly from the host. |
| 07:01.33 | Zelut | herlo: ie; visit the guest IP from the host browser.. |
| 07:02.24 | herlo | Zelut: sounds intriguing |
| 07:02.54 | herlo | Zelut: have you found any good information that would lead you to believe this is possible via kqemu? |
| 07:03.12 | Zelut | yeah, it looks possible but complicated. |
| 07:03.32 | Zelut | I hear kvm makes it much simpler but I can't get anything to run in kvm.. |
| 07:03.49 | Zelut | trying out virtualbox now.. seems a bit simpler so far |
| 07:05.25 | Zelut | actually seems faster than the kqemu I was running too.. |
| 07:06.44 | herlo | kvm only doesn't work for gutsy right? |
| 07:08.16 | herlo | I mean, I am gonna be setting up a couple F8 boxes soon in (I think) August using kvm. I also plan on setting up kvm for RHEL5, Feisty, OpenSUSE 10.3 and maybe even for some others... |
| 07:12.13 | herlo | ~say herlo |
| 07:12.13 | jbot | herlo |
| 07:14.00 | herlo | ~say herlo |
| 07:14.01 | jbot | herlo |
| 07:15.00 | herlo | ~maquis |
| 07:15.01 | jbot | I don't give that kind of information to filthy cardassian spies |
| 07:42.00 | Zelut | herlo: kvm won't run at all for me. I did find a fix for gutsy in qemu though. |
| 08:27.18 | UtahBot | [Ubuntuforums] Ubuntu Team T-Shirts - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=492748 |
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| 14:35.46 | tristanbob | Zelut: pong |
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| 14:40.14 | maquis | redbeard2: could you please beat up goo or lamont for me? |
| 14:42.37 | maquis | (if you're too chicken to beat them up, getting them in here so i can ask them a question would work too) |
| 14:50.23 | redbeard2 | maquis: if i knew where either one was, i'd be happy to beat them over the head or something |
| 15:05.57 | Zelut | tristanbob: wondering if you could offer some tips on virtualbox |
| 15:07.20 | tristanbob | I could offer some |
| 15:07.36 | tristanbob | Zelut: do you want good or bad tips? |
| 15:08.03 | tristanbob | ahh I see the question about accessing the IP in bridged mode |
| 15:08.14 | tristanbob | I have not figured that one out either |
| 15:08.38 | tristanbob | something about creating a TUN or TAP interface on your workstation.... let me check the docs |
| 15:08.40 | Zelut | tristanbob: well two things I'm wondering about. 1) I installed dapper but it wont boot and 2) the IP bridging would be nice. |
| 15:09.14 | tristanbob | that is strange - the livecd worked but it won't boot? |
| 15:09.21 | tristanbob | what error do you get? |
| 15:10.46 | Zelut | tristanbob: it installs just fine but then just sits there after Loading kernel... done. |
| 15:11.07 | tristanbob | I think I have seen that before |
| 15:11.11 | Zelut | tristanbob: gutsy installed and still works--doing upgrades on gutsy now--but dapper wont start after install |
| 15:11.12 | tristanbob | I would ask in #vbox |
| 15:11.46 | Zelut | from what I've read kvm handles the ip bridging by defualt, but I can't get kvm to work. |
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| 15:12.04 | Zelut | qemu works a bit better but the bridging is a pain.. and now virtualbox is a little faster. |
| 15:12.32 | Zelut | all I want is a good VM solution.. which is turning into more headache than I thought. |
| 15:39.56 | tristanbob | Zelut: you could buy vmware |
| 15:41.06 | Zelut | ehh.. is it the best solution available? |
| 15:56.37 | Hunding | Zelut: unless you are planning a bare metal install, and plan on managing a large vm solution there is very little difference between VMware Server and VMware infastructure... other than the $$ :) |
| 15:58.04 | Hunding | atoponce: Transformers has probably got to be the best "remake" of a childhood classic to date...IMHO |
| 15:58.54 | Zelut | Hunding: I mainly want to run VM to test ubuntu+1 and a few other similar things. |
| 16:00.45 | Hunding | Zelut: I'll tell you how my extremely cheap office did it; they complied a ubuntu kernel with only VMware server support...the one box is running 6 VM's (moderate to heavy traffic) inside a dual Xeon with 4 gig of ram...the benchmark tests have been very impressive. |
| 16:05.41 | Hunding | 10:04:40 up 24 days, 21:39, 3 users, load average: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 <---these last three numbers...does this mean my machine is working pretty hard? |
| 16:08.41 | Zelut | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.13 | Hunding | Zelut: do you know where/what those numbers are derived from? |
| 16:09.16 | Zelut | load could be higher. that is my load running a VM, using thunderbird, irssi, and 9 FF tabs. |
| 16:10.41 | Zelut | uhm, not sure I've thought about where those numbers are reported from. |
| 16:10.51 | Hunding | Zelut: I found the answer... http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/index.htm |
| 16:12.42 | Zelut | actually that all sounds famliar now that I read it. |
| 16:12.42 | Hunding | LIB CPU MEM in that order. |
| 16:14.27 | Hunding | whoops.... actaully the three numbers are LA for the past 1, 5, and 15 min. and each number is an average of CPU utilization. |
| 16:21.46 | herlo | Hunding: you have really no load on your machine with these numbers |
| 16:22.16 | herlo | Hunding: what it means is how many processes are waiting at any one time over 1, 5 and 15 minute intervals |
| 16:23.36 | Hunding | herlo: kewl, thanks |
| 16:23.58 | herlo | Hunding: a great article on load average - http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9001 |
| 16:24.01 | maquis | Hunding: evem if those numbers are > 100, it doesn't necessarily mean that your machine is working hard |
| 16:24.01 | herlo | Hunding: np |
| 16:24.17 | maquis | it could just be sitting there and those proecsses might just be stuck in some weird state |
| 16:24.24 | herlo | Hunding: 100 would be very high, I'd say almost impossible to reach with one cpu |
| 16:24.45 | maquis | herlo: i saw >400 one day... |
| 16:24.54 | herlo | maquis: that's crazy |
| 16:24.55 | maquis | not sure how many cpus the box had... |
| 16:25.10 | maquis | herlo: someone had set up a job to spawn a process every hour... |
| 16:25.11 | herlo | maquis: I've truly never seen over 80 |
| 16:25.20 | maquis | the process was hanging badly |
| 16:25.32 | maquis | so, it was just sitting there not doing anything |
| 16:25.33 | herlo | maquis: that's a clue to a broken process for sure! :-P |
| 16:25.36 | maquis | yup |
| 16:25.37 | maquis | :) |
| 16:26.12 | maquis | i got a hint when i noticed that the load was going up by about 25 every day... |
| 16:26.59 | herlo | 25 every day? That's awesomely bad! |
| 16:29.55 | maquis | :) |
| 16:30.34 | maquis | well, it was actually 24 every day... but what i saw the first time i looked was ~25 :) |
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| 16:37.36 | Hunding | herlo, that is a pretty good article. Thanks for sharing. |
| 16:39.00 | herlo | Hunding: yeah. I've been getting the LJ now for 2 years almost. I've read just about every article in there (save the AJAX ones) |
| 16:39.16 | maquis | herlo: how much / year? |
| 16:40.02 | herlo | maquis: like $24 or something... |
| 16:40.52 | herlo | maquis: https://secure.linuxjournal.com/allsubs/plj.php?action=new-sub®ion=US |
| 16:41.29 | maquis | ick... 25$ |
| 16:41.38 | herlo | maquis: its worth it |
| 16:42.11 | herlo | maquis: I was gonna see if I could send you and Hunding a referral so I'd get a discount or something but they don't offer that... |
| 16:43.47 | maquis | haha |
| 16:47.13 | Zelut | ergh! |
| 16:47.37 | Zelut | I found a simple tutorial for the IP bridging but now I realize I created my VM with too little space for what I was wanting it for. |
| 16:47.40 | herlo | Zelut: ergh!? |
| 16:47.45 | maquis | heh |
| 16:48.17 | Zelut | now I either need to figure out how to resize my VM or re-install all over again. |
| 16:50.20 | maquis | Zelut: what part of it do you need to resize? |
| 16:50.27 | maquis | disk space? memory? etc? |
| 16:51.09 | Zelut | maquis: the drive. i set it to 5G but I think I need something more like 7-8. |
| 16:52.25 | maquis | technically, it was correct |
| 16:52.35 | maquis | unfortunately, i lost that fight |
| 16:52.49 | maquis | Zelut: i'm thinking that shouldn't be too hard to fix |
| 16:53.08 | maquis | worst case scenario, couldn't you create a new drive, and have it mount the new drive as additional space? |
| 16:54.31 | Zelut | I could re-install the guest (it's only a few hours old anyway) while I get breakfast I guess.. |
| 16:55.00 | atoponce | Zelut: you may want to keep an eye on http://spellbook.infinitiv.it |
| 16:55.11 | Hunding | maquis: with the wording you have above "one or more.." would absolutly e correct...now if it said "more than one but not all..." that would be a differenet story |
| 16:55.16 | Zelut | so my swapboost.sh that is still fairly useless and alpha was featured on lifehacker this morning. |
| 16:55.42 | maquis | Hunding: it said "one or more, but not all" |
| 16:56.58 | maquis | i'm still bitter over those points |
| 16:57.25 | maquis | i suggested that he should have it say "more than one but not all", but he insisted that i should've assumed that was what he meant |
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| 17:05.00 | Hunding | maquis: that is one argument that you should NOT have lost...ur right! |
| 17:07.03 | maquis | Hunding: yeah |
| 17:07.30 | maquis | he also made some point about actually learning the material in the class |
| 17:07.58 | maquis | but hey... i was well above the average on that test |
| 17:10.32 | maquis | it's like the argument i've made on occasion where teachers have options, then "none of the above", then "all of the above" |
| 17:10.51 | maquis | in order for there to be a correct answer, "all of the above" must occur prior to "none of the above" |
| 17:11.34 | maquis | (and i wonder why i generally score better on essay tests than on multiple choice...) |
| 17:11.38 | Hunding | maquis: if your interested in the proof of your argument google "reductio ad absurdum"; a beautiful proof by logical method; simply prove the proposition simply by proving the falsity of its contradictory. |
| 17:12.03 | maquis | :) |
| 17:13.18 | Hunding | one of the most beautiful methods in math. If done right, it looks and flows like art... |
| 17:15.25 | maquis | :) |
| 17:22.21 | Zelut | my wife says w00t now. it cracks me up. |
| 17:22.28 | maquis | nice |
| 17:23.00 | Zelut | she was just telling me how the exterior paint is done on our new house and then says w00t. |
| 17:23.14 | Zelut | ..she also told me to RTFM once. |
| 17:24.28 | {phoenyx} | lol, nice |
| 17:24.42 | maquis | lol! |
| 17:25.04 | Hunding | so did you Zelut? |
| 17:25.51 | Zelut | Hunding: I did. I should get her to hang out in here again |
| 17:26.08 | Hunding | Zelut: heh |
| 17:27.35 | {phoenyx} | ~seen HoneyShiv |
| 17:27.36 | jbot | honeyshiv <n=chatzill@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-utah, 86d 4h 24m 13s ago, saying: 'Everyone that is planning to come to the Feisty Release Party needs to RSVP to either Atoponce, Zelut, or me- Honeyshiv. '. |
| 17:28.17 | Zelut | looks like it has been a while |
| 17:28.27 | Hunding | does anyone have any idea how/if itunes will run in wine? |
| 17:28.38 | maquis | Zelut: tell her i say hi |
| 17:29.28 | synic | Hunding: it will. Not well, though |
| 17:29.59 | maquis | Hunding: why do you want itunes? |
| 17:30.10 | Hunding | synic: thanks... iPhone is really kewl...support sucks big time though!! |
| 17:30.34 | synic | Hunding: oh yeah, I doubt it would work well enough for that, hehe |
| 17:30.53 | maquis | Hunding: i take it you've tried gnupod/gtkpod? |
| 17:31.16 | maquis | i recall reading someplace that someone had already (as of yesterday) hacked somtehing together for syncing it.. but i dont' think that was for linux |
| 17:31.21 | Hunding | maquis: I got a new iPhone...and I had to borrow a friends mac to register the dang thing...now I can't get it to sync...only supports windows or mac...STUPID THING!! |
| 17:32.40 | Hunding | maquis: I did...and banshee as well |
| 17:32.49 | maquis | Hunding: have you called apple to complain? |
| 17:32.59 | Hunding | maquis: heh...no |
| 17:34.39 | synic | I heard it doesn't work like a regular iPod. You _have_ to sync it to get any music on it |
| 17:34.44 | synic | you can't just transfer single tracks at a time |
| 17:34.59 | Hunding | you heard right synic |
| 17:35.06 | maquis | hrmmm |
| 17:35.07 | synic | lame. |
| 17:35.34 | Hunding | yea..but the pictures are pretty good, and the voice mail is really good on it |
| 17:35.55 | Hunding | love the voice mail feature, and the keyboard is not bad...takes some time to get used too |
| 17:36.38 | maquis | http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13505_1-9738857-16.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=TheOpenRoad <-- don't think this works on linux, but might be a push in the right direction |
| 17:36.56 | maquis | actually, it claims it does work with linux |
| 17:40.07 | Hunding | well I just applied for memebership...I'll let you know how it works out |
| 17:40.16 | maquis | Hunding: cool |
| 17:40.20 | maquis | hopefully it'll work :) |
| 17:44.43 | synic | doesn't look like it does music, though |
| 17:45.39 | Hunding | nope...but being able to sync with something other than Outlook would sure be nice |
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| 20:19.17 | maquis | Hunding: if you can't find a good solution for syncing your iphone, i might be persuaded to help you out by adopting the problematic hardware... |
| 20:20.13 | maquis | 'twould be a bit of a sacrifice... but i think i could handle it |
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| 20:27.55 | maquis | ~say maquis |
| 20:27.55 | jbot | maquis |
| 20:28.03 | maquis | ha! |
| 20:28.04 | maquis | got it |
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| 20:34.52 | atoponce | maquis: libnotify? |
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| 20:35.11 | maquis | atoponce: ? |
| 20:35.43 | Zelut | herlo: ping |
| 20:35.44 | atoponce | maquis: gui notification for irssi? just curious why you want the bot to speak to you |
| 20:36.02 | maquis | atoponce: i was changing the colors of the little notifier in the corner of the window |
| 20:36.19 | atoponce | maquis: gotta screenshot? |
| 20:36.26 | maquis | nope.. |
| 20:36.30 | atoponce | well, that's no fun |
| 20:36.52 | maquis | but you know how irssi has the little numbers down at the bottom that say what windows have new text, and in which ones you've been spoken to directly? |
| 20:38.06 | atoponce | yeah |
| 20:39.50 | atoponce | changing the colors, eh? |
| 20:41.05 | maquis | yup |
| 20:41.06 | maquis | :) |
| 20:54.41 | atoponce | grrr |
| 21:16.30 | maquis | ? |
| 21:16.33 | maquis | what'd i do? |
| 21:16.48 | atoponce | nothin |
| 21:17.53 | maquis | why you growlin then? |
| 21:34.09 | atoponce | because IE is retarded |
| 21:35.39 | Zelut | my dad just paid $60 to get his XP machine repaired for a 'missing or corrupted .dll' |
| 21:36.24 | Zelut | if he'd just switch.. or let me fix it with a linux rescue CD he'd have his computer back before monday |
| 21:36.24 | redbeard2 | Zelut: XP = eXtra Price |
| 21:36.38 | Zelut | they said he could get it back monday too.. that's ridiculous. |
| 21:36.48 | redbeard2 | Zelut: Parents just don't understand. |
| 21:37.17 | Zelut | hehe |
| 21:38.23 | Zelut | ohh well. part of me wants to help him fix it... the other part wants me to remind him to chalk this up to the windows sucks category. |
| 21:38.39 | {phoenyx} | I just IM my younger siblings who are still at home rather than try to explain computer stuff to my parents |
| 21:39.10 | redbeard2 | fortunately, it was my dad who indoctrinated me into computers, then programming, then linux |
| 21:39.55 | redbeard2 | so it's rare that i need to explain anything to him |
| 21:43.36 | Zelut | I passed up my dad's skills years ago |
| 21:53.45 | maquis | my dad got me interested in computers |
| 21:54.10 | maquis | then it took me years to get him off of AOL |
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| 22:30.59 | findlay | ~cookie |
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| 22:44.17 | {phoenyx} | atoponce: iamlds.org looks oddly familiar |
| 22:48.23 | atoponce | heh |
| 22:48.28 | atoponce | i'm having issues with that site |
| 22:48.36 | atoponce | i need to sit down and just fix it |
| 22:48.49 | atoponce | i'm probably just going to pull it, though |
| 22:50.23 | atoponce | brb |
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| 22:51.22 | atoponce | grrr |
| 22:51.45 | atoponce | i can't get the nick spacing right with irssi |
| 22:51.50 | atoponce | something is terribly wrong |
| 22:52.31 | atoponce | test |
| 22:52.32 | atoponce | grrr |
| 22:52.59 | atoponce | *sigh* |
| 22:54.41 | Heartsbane | schadenfreude anyone? |
| 22:54.43 | Heartsbane | anyone? |
| 22:55.33 | {phoenyx} | ~dict schadenfreude |
| 22:59.21 | Heartsbane | Well then atoponce everyone must love you .... for now |
| 22:59.32 | Heartsbane | muhahahaha |
| 22:59.39 | atoponce | heh |
| 22:59.47 | atoponce | i guess i won't go and eat worms, then |
| 22:59.53 | {phoenyx} | the Germans have a word for that, eh? |
| 23:00.16 | Heartsbane | Leave it to the germans to have a intricate glossary for pain words |
| 23:00.23 | {phoenyx} | or move to Australia<obscure reference> |
| 23:00.44 | atoponce | heh |
| 23:00.48 | Heartsbane | Austrailia are you talking about that album? |
| 23:01.35 | {phoenyx} | Alexander and the terrible, horrible, no-good, very bad day |
| 23:01.45 | {phoenyx} | (a favorite book from my childhood) |
| 23:01.52 | Heartsbane | oh |
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| 23:27.29 | herlo | Zelut: pong |
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