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| 00:11.08 | Zelut | redbeard2: I simply forwarded the email that was sent to oalug from Dax.. |
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| 02:05.14 | Zelut | man I feel like such a geek tonite. |
| 02:12.41 | herlo | Zelut: did you see my response in the pm? |
| 02:13.24 | Zelut | yeah |
| 02:13.46 | Zelut | started prepping for tomorrows class and got sidetracked. |
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| 03:28.15 | atoponce | hehehe |
| 03:28.17 | atoponce | http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/seriously%3F/this-is-what-weve-become-woman-pushes-baby-on-segway-263440.php |
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| 03:42.10 | synic | is there a way to enable remote desktop on windows xp home without having to send an invitation? |
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| 03:47.53 | atoponce | dunno |
| 03:51.04 | dabaR | atoponce: hi! |
| 03:51.18 | atoponce | dabaR: hello |
| 03:52.18 | dabaR | How's it going? |
| 03:52.39 | atoponce | good |
| 03:53.29 | dabaR | Cool. I've got this knee pain :) I just got home, I was thinking about your post for a few minutes about 20 minutes ago or so. |
| 03:53.34 | dabaR | I will comment. |
| 03:53.49 | dabaR | It is a question, you will probably answer. |
| 03:54.05 | atoponce | what post? |
| 03:54.10 | dabaR | I think the last one, |
| 03:54.15 | dabaR | About CS. |
| 03:54.21 | atoponce | ahh. ok |
| 03:54.24 | dabaR | Students and what they can do... |
| 03:54.36 | dabaR | Nixternal was funny in his last post. |
| 03:54.57 | dabaR | I can already see the vista fanbois' flames, or what was it... |
| 03:54.58 | dabaR | :) |
| 03:55.16 | dabaR | So you live in Utah? |
| 03:55.22 | atoponce | yup |
| 03:55.37 | dabaR | What do you do for a living? |
| 03:55.49 | atoponce | i'm a web developer |
| 03:56.12 | dabaR | No way! And are you currently expanding some software, or building it? |
| 03:56.22 | atoponce | building |
| 03:56.23 | dabaR | (maintaining vs. creating) |
| 03:56.29 | atoponce | https://www.introplay.com |
| 03:56.33 | atoponce | that's our site |
| 03:56.50 | dabaR | Cool. What method are you employing? How far along in the process are you? |
| 03:57.01 | atoponce | we're pretty far |
| 03:57.12 | atoponce | we use python/django for the backend |
| 03:57.26 | atoponce | ajax with dojo for the frontend |
| 03:58.21 | dabaR | Nice, it looks all professional right away. |
| 03:58.34 | dabaR | I read the terms of service. |
| 03:58.53 | dabaR | I mean, compare to something like this site to see what I mean... http://jingdezhenvase.com |
| 03:59.21 | dabaR | What kind of s/w development method are you using, can you desribe it a bit? |
| 03:59.56 | atoponce | we develop everthing in house on virtual servers behind ssh and openvpn |
| 04:00.07 | atoponce | svn and trac maintain our entire structure |
| 04:00.33 | atoponce | the dev servers are in-office, while the production server is is the xmission datacenter in slc |
| 04:00.43 | atoponce | i spend my whole day behind vim |
| 04:00.52 | dabaR | Wow, cool idea for a website, and it is all 2.0, haha, with the beta:) |
| 04:01.23 | dabaR | (although it raelly still is in beta. It is obviously agile web dev't with a web framework. |
| 04:01.55 | dabaR | That is what I meant by method, I guess you release often, know the requirements well... |
| 04:02.08 | atoponce | there's only 2 of us |
| 04:02.14 | dabaR | Web 2.0 development, in beta:) |
| 04:02.31 | dabaR | That is nice. |
| 04:02.31 | atoponce | we try to keep it on a weekly schedule, but don't always meet it |
| 04:02.48 | dabaR | Open Source is nice too. I hope I get to do open source in my career path:) |
| 04:03.14 | dabaR | atoponce: right, sounds awesome. Feature-driven, I suppose? |
| 04:03.20 | atoponce | of course |
| 04:03.28 | dabaR | :D |
| 04:04.08 | dabaR | Ah...I can't wait to get a job... |
| 04:04.24 | atoponce | in school? |
| 04:04.26 | dabaR | Finally! |
| 04:04.29 | dabaR | No, done:) |
| 04:04.41 | atoponce | oh. where did you graduate from? |
| 04:05.21 | dabaR | I am gonna do some open source even this summer, perhaps, as part of GSOC with pystart ... https://launchpad.net/pystart |
| 04:05.28 | dabaR | I live up north in Winnipeg. |
| 04:05.42 | dabaR | A smaller University. |
| 04:06.35 | dabaR | Utah...the city of wind? |
| 04:06.44 | atoponce | so, just curious, but what made you decide to join this channel? |
| 04:06.48 | dabaR | Or is that Chicago. |
| 04:06.54 | dabaR | I was looking for zelut. |
| 04:06.59 | atoponce | that's chicago. utah is a state |
| 04:07.06 | dabaR | Oh, ha! |
| 04:07.20 | dabaR | I gave out my european geographism! |
| 04:07.33 | dabaR | A new word in its own right. |
| 04:08.28 | dabaR | I came in the room, and then I saw you too were in this team, so I said hi. |
| 04:08.36 | atoponce | i see |
| 04:08.43 | dabaR | Cause I was just thinking aboiut your post 10 mins before that. |
| 04:09.17 | atoponce | zelut is normally here, but he's moving, and as such, his ssh server that is hosting irssi has been relocated |
| 04:09.18 | dabaR | I've been using Ubuntu + Freenode since about beginning of 4.10. |
| 04:09.24 | atoponce | so, he's hard to catch |
| 04:09.40 | dabaR | That is fine, I was not going to say anything profound to him either. |
| 04:10.40 | dabaR | Wow, I can really track my health on that program? |
| 04:10.48 | atoponce | yeah |
| 04:11.03 | atoponce | the big thing is creating and joining leagues, and holding competitions |
| 04:11.11 | atoponce | that's the crux of the site |
| 04:11.34 | dabaR | Cool creation. Well on this scale(Net), anyhow. |
| 04:12.17 | atoponce | we'll be adding metric soon, but in the meantime, everything is using the english system |
| 04:12.48 | dabaR | I just got the funniest of all message on the answering machine. |
| 04:12.55 | dabaR | I bet someone is teasing me, check this. |
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| 04:14.13 | dabaR | Hello, I am looking for Dan Bernardic, and I am <some person> from IBM, and if you have any questions, in regard to software development, please do not hesitate to give me a call at 1-800-... |
| 04:14.22 | dabaR | Dan is me, |
| 04:15.18 | atoponce | probably a recruiter |
| 04:15.25 | dabaR | I never applied, or talked to anyone like that. I can imagine that he is possibly trying to sell me solutions for some reason. |
| 04:15.41 | dabaR | But even in that case it is hilarious. |
| 04:15.59 | atoponce | you have your degree in computer science? |
| 04:16.31 | dabaR | Ya. Still, it is harder to believe that story, than him trying to sell me IBM solutions. |
| 04:17.05 | atoponce | most universities will sell their graduates info |
| 04:17.16 | dabaR | But I think the only possible place he could have gotten my phone is through this s/w dev't meeting I went to the other day, and I wrote down my name, and put in a fake company name. |
| 04:17.19 | atoponce | ibm was probably one of the buyers or CS graduates |
| 04:17.33 | atoponce | s/or/of/ |
| 04:17.33 | dabaR | So, that is waay more possible than the other thing :) |
| 04:17.42 | dabaR | Nice bot. |
| 04:18.27 | dabaR | But, if it is _really_ a recruiter, which I find very hard to believe, then that is pretty cool. |
| 04:18.41 | dabaR | And funny none the less. |
| 04:19.00 | atoponce | i bet it is |
| 04:19.13 | atoponce | most graduates get recruiting calls all the time |
| 04:19.22 | dabaR | I gotta get back to what I was doing. I will post my question, and look forward to your reply. |
| 04:19.28 | atoponce | just like when you turn 18, and the armed services call |
| 04:19.29 | dabaR | Really? |
| 04:19.49 | atoponce | if i were you, i'd follow up on it |
| 04:20.02 | atoponce | if it's nothing, it's nothing |
| 04:20.05 | atoponce | but it could be something |
| 04:22.41 | dabaR | Of course I am following up on it...with a resume and cover letter :) |
| 04:23.54 | dabaR | I gotta get back to what I was doing. I will post my question, and look forward to your reply. |
| 04:23.59 | dabaR | Hah. |
| 04:24.04 | dabaR | !win me |
| 04:25.33 | atoponce | ttyl |
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| 05:52.19 | Zelut | so, if you were wondering, it seems indian food is a good way to upset your stomach :) |
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| 13:49.19 | herlo | Yorokobi: man, I thought I deleted that onjoin :) |
| 13:50.31 | Yorokobi | What herlo deletes, Yorokobi undeletes :) |
| 13:52.17 | herlo | Yorokobi: damn! |
| 13:52.47 | atoponce | ~language herlo |
| 13:52.54 | jbot | ACTION grabs herlo by the ear and washes herlo's mouth out with soap |
| 13:55.48 | baens | atoponce: you use trac at your company? |
| 13:57.08 | atoponce | baens: yeah |
| 13:57.17 | baens | atoponce: how are you liking it? |
| 13:57.24 | atoponce | love it. it's great |
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| 13:58.16 | baens | cool, my company is looking into a system to help manage projects a little more then they are now, and im trying to pitch trac to them right now |
| 13:58.56 | atoponce | trac really only works well with svn. if you're not utilizing svn, then trac is really only good for the wiki, and occassional ticket |
| 13:59.51 | baens | we are moving to svn :) thats one thing we liked about it, along with the ticking system and wiki to help let the managers know where projects are at |
| 14:00.16 | atoponce | it's a solid way of doing things, i think |
| 14:00.29 | atoponce | i probably spend most of my time in the timeline |
| 14:00.47 | baens | do you use the webadmin interface or the commandline? |
| 14:00.56 | atoponce | the web admin |
| 14:04.22 | atoponce | bbiab |
| 14:04.57 | Hunding | away |
| 14:06.12 | Hunding | we use tortoiseSVN and Test Track...seperate install of wiki |
| 14:06.54 | Hunding | I like the repo browser function...can comb through trunks and branches with ease. |
| 14:07.24 | baens | ya, my only problem with svn so far is that im a long time cvs person and having a hard time getting use to the folders in svn :) |
| 14:08.15 | Hunding | I did at fisrt as well when I came to this company, but with the repo browser it is not too hard to figure out |
| 14:08.25 | herlo | ~lart atoponce for worrying too much |
| 14:08.25 | jbot | crushes atoponce with a full height scsi disk for worrying too much |
| 14:24.52 | baens | is there anythin like that for gnome or kde? (while I do use commandline it would be interesting as a gui too) |
| 14:28.20 | maquis | baens: does tortoise not work on linux? |
| 14:28.46 | baens | good question let me see |
| 14:29.21 | baens | from what I can tell....it looks windows only |
| 14:32.18 | baens | maybe this would work... http://www.jasonfield.com/freebies/ |
| 14:51.34 | herlo | maquis: windows only |
| 14:52.08 | maquis | hrm |
| 14:52.16 | maquis | never tried using a gui client on linux |
| 14:52.21 | maquis | i'msure there are some, though |
| 14:52.30 | maquis | synaptic/aptitude should show some |
| 14:53.03 | baens | there are some plugins for nautilus that I will try once I get home |
| 14:55.36 | herlo | sontek: ping |
| 14:56.20 | atoponce | ~atoponce herlo |
| 14:56.41 | atoponce | ... |
| 14:57.07 | atoponce | hmm. someone must've removed it, or jbot is *really* slow today |
| 14:57.27 | atoponce | ~whalepoop herlo |
| 14:57.31 | jbot | ACTION catapults a truckload of whale poop from a freakishly large killer whale named Hugh at herlo |
| 15:00.21 | herlo | ~herlo atoponce twice |
| 15:00.26 | jbot | ACTION pokes atoponce twice with a sharp needle. |
| 15:00.26 | herlo | yes its very slow |
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| 15:00.44 | herlo | ~haha sontek |
| 15:00.46 | jbot | ACTION beats sontek about the head with the ha ha bat |
| 15:00.57 | herlo | sontek: I've got some good new and some bad news for you |
| 15:00.58 | sontek_ | :( |
| 15:01.03 | sontek_ | ouch! |
| 15:01.08 | sontek_ | lets hear the bad! |
| 15:01.30 | herlo | sontek_: the good news is that I've saved a lot of money on my car insurance, but the bad news is that its not with geico |
| 15:01.39 | herlo | okay, really. |
| 15:01.46 | sontek_ | You can't save on insurance without geico |
| 15:01.53 | sontek_ | its IMPOSSIBLE |
| 15:01.56 | herlo | The bad news is I am not finished with bashtorrent yet |
| 15:01.56 | Hunding | I concure sontek_ |
| 15:02.25 | herlo | but the good news is that I've renamed it to basht and made an svn repo for it... |
| 15:02.45 | herlo | and I made a good bit of progress with it last night... |
| 15:03.09 | herlo | I have a few more things to finish and it should be good enough for version 0.02 |
| 15:03.30 | sontek | :D |
| 15:03.34 | sontek | w00t |
| 15:04.04 | sontek | now I can finally catch up on lost! ;) |
| 15:04.41 | sontek | you putting it on sf.net or googlecode? |
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| 15:07.08 | atoponce | Zelut: you need a shell |
| 15:07.14 | atoponce | hold on, and i'll create one for you |
| 15:08.19 | herlo | sontek: herlo.org |
| 15:08.41 | herlo | sontek: you need to ghost your other user or something |
| 15:09.02 | herlo | sontek: I am working on read-only access to the svn repo now... |
| 15:09.37 | herlo | oh, nevermind |
| 15:10.26 | Zelut | atoponce: wha? |
| 15:10.42 | Zelut | atoponce: ohh.. my in & out nonsense? |
| 15:12.20 | herlo | sontek: pm man! |
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| 15:21.25 | sontek | herlo: sorry |
| 15:21.26 | sontek | ! |
| 15:21.29 | sontek | herlo: i'm back! |
| 15:21.39 | sontek | herlo: I was catching up on email :[ |
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| 15:50.23 | maquis | interesting |
| 15:56.42 | Zelut | ...yeah, I tried python challenge yesterday and got a score of 'you're retarded' |
| 15:57.08 | maquis | lol |
| 15:59.38 | Zelut | maybe I'm just not cut out for it.. |
| 15:59.55 | Zelut | I remember I tried it a long-long time ago and got further than I did yesterday. Does that mean I'm now dumber? |
| 16:00.22 | maquis | Zelut: you ever tried hackthissite.org? |
| 16:01.11 | Zelut | sounds familiar.. |
| 16:01.17 | baens | maquis: did they ever fix that site so its usable? |
| 16:02.30 | maquis | baens: i don't remember ever having problems with it... |
| 16:02.33 | maquis | but i haven't been there in years |
| 16:02.52 | maquis | iirc, i made it to level 6 or 7 when i tried it |
| 16:02.53 | baens | maquis: me either, but last time i tried you could only get half the stuff done because it was broken |
| 16:03.20 | herlo | maquis: b0rken |
| 16:03.22 | herlo | :) |
| 16:03.32 | maquis | i just sucked, and couldn't get the next level |
| 16:03.33 | maquis | :) |
| 16:05.04 | baens | ya i dont remember getting far based on skill...thou the problems were really interesting |
| 16:05.16 | tristanbob_ | sontek: geico and progressive both suck - I got 4x more coverage for 1/2 the price with American Family Insurance |
| 16:05.30 | herlo | tristanbob_: I use allied and get a great deal |
| 16:06.09 | Zelut | AAA gave me the best rate. |
| 16:06.23 | tristanbob_ | AARP looks good too..... err...... |
| 16:08.37 | maquis | usaa is good... |
| 16:08.42 | maquis | ubt probably not an option for most people here |
| 16:12.01 | Hunding | We just got insurance from Geico for our 2002 escape for $27.50/month (paid annually) with full coverage... |
| 16:12.13 | herlo | I like Qantas Airlines, they've only ever been in one accident |
| 16:12.27 | herlo | and that was in 1990 |
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| 16:17.28 | tristanbob_ | herlo: did that crash cut their fleet in half? |
| 16:18.29 | tristanbob_ | I'm bored - what I should I do |
| 16:20.08 | herlo | tristanbob_: I don't know. I was just ahving fun with the whole insurance thing |
| 16:20.15 | herlo | and thought I'd change the subject some... |
| 16:21.59 | tristanbob_ | I know - I'll help out my favorite open source project - nedi.ch! |
| 16:30.38 | atoponce | let's take a walk down memory lane, shall we? |
| 16:30.40 | atoponce | http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/201902.1020.A.jpg |
| 16:31.07 | Yorokobi | heh, I saw that at Disney Land back in the day |
| 16:31.23 | Utah_Dave | me too! |
| 16:31.35 | atoponce | remember when he shot music out of his hands, and it made them dance? |
| 16:31.41 | atoponce | good stuff |
| 16:32.04 | herlo | oh, I so hated that other than it was in 3-D |
| 16:32.37 | Yorokobi | All I remember about it is that it was 3D |
| 16:32.40 | herlo | my Dad who absolutely hates Jacko actually took us to see it. It was the first time I realized he'd do stuff for us rather than just himself... |
| 16:32.48 | herlo | Yorokobi: I was 18 when I saw it |
| 16:32.58 | atoponce | i was like 8 or something |
| 16:33.00 | Yorokobi | I might have been 8 :) |
| 16:33.05 | atoponce | :) |
| 16:33.22 | atoponce | seriously. if they bring that back, then i'll have a reason to visit disneyland again |
| 16:37.04 | herlo | you boys are young |
| 16:37.18 | herlo | I'm like 52 or something compared to you youngn's |
| 16:37.21 | herlo | :) |
| 16:37.35 | herlo | sontek: ping |
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| 16:51.10 | Hunding | how can I tell what version of X I am using? |
| 16:52.40 | Yorokobi | Hunding, um ... check the version number in the repository |
| 16:57.45 | herlo | Hunding: ask |
| 16:58.34 | herlo | X -version |
| 16:58.38 | herlo | should do it |
| 16:59.04 | Yorokobi | gotta be root to do it though it seems, but it works |
| 17:03.17 | sontek | herlo: pong!! |
| 17:04.24 | herlo | sontek: cool |
| 17:06.07 | sontek | herlo: you are the svn mastah |
| 17:08.23 | herlo | sontek: it took me a minute |
| 17:08.40 | herlo | sontek: I am still working out the regex stuff now which will be the really fun part... |
| 17:08.53 | herlo | and then you could write a simple front end to it... |
| 17:08.59 | herlo | in mono or python or something |
| 17:09.19 | herlo | I plan on having it run in the cron.hourly or something like that |
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| 17:24.23 | JoeyDay | bittorrent is built into Ubuntu, right? |
| 17:24.32 | JoeyDay | How do I run it from a command line? |
| 17:25.23 | JoeyDay | Ah, never mind, after Googling this for the past half hour I think I just found the documentation I was looking for. |
| 17:29.05 | herlo | JoeyDay: aptitude install rtorrent |
| 17:29.15 | herlo | then run rtorrent |
| 17:29.18 | JoeyDay | rtorrent? |
| 17:29.24 | JoeyDay | Can that handle RSS feeds, by chance? |
| 17:29.27 | herlo | JoeyDay: rtorrent is a bittorrent client that rocks! |
| 17:29.33 | herlo | JoeyDay: I am working on writing a script that can |
| 17:29.37 | JoeyDay | Cool. |
| 17:29.45 | herlo | its called basht |
| 17:29.55 | herlo | http://www.herlo.org/bashtorrent |
| 17:30.15 | herlo | JoeyDay: I'll be providing anonymous svn access very soon |
| 17:31.26 | JoeyDay | Okay, once I'm in here, what do I do? |
| 17:32.53 | JoeyDay | How do I initiate a download? |
| 17:33.08 | JoeyDay | herlo: ^^^ |
| 17:36.40 | herlo | JoeyDay: you need to create an .rtorrent.rc file and put it in your home directory |
| 17:36.58 | JoeyDay | Blank? |
| 17:37.19 | herlo | in that file, there is a reference to a particular watch directory which will start torrents automagically |
| 17:37.30 | herlo | JoeyDay: its obvious from this that you've not yet run 'man rtorrent' |
| 17:37.37 | herlo | which will help you immensely |
| 17:37.51 | JoeyDay | Yeah, I'm not in the habit of doing that automatically yet. |
| 17:37.56 | herlo | I am a big fan of helping but I can only do so much |
| 17:38.11 | herlo | you gotta do some of the work too.. :) |
| 17:38.30 | JoeyDay | I do appreciate what you've done so far. I'm much closer than I was. I'm downloading what I was looking for. I found the documentation on rtorrent's website. |
| 17:38.33 | herlo | JoeyDay: spend about 20 minutes reading the rtorrent site too |
| 17:38.43 | herlo | its really cool |
| 17:41.41 | herlo | JoeyDay: you can also load a torrent by hand, did you do that? |
| 17:41.48 | herlo | I think you hit enter... |
| 17:41.53 | JoeyDay | I did Backspace. |
| 17:41.56 | JoeyDay | Yeah. |
| 17:42.00 | herlo | nice |
| 17:42.08 | herlo | so it's already going? |
| 17:42.17 | JoeyDay | Yep. |
| 17:42.33 | herlo | hit 6 |
| 17:42.36 | herlo | then 5 |
| 17:42.38 | herlo | then 1 |
| 17:42.46 | JoeyDay | Not sure exactly where it's putting it, though. I tried Ctrl+O to change the destination directory, but it's telling me I have to select the file somehow first. |
| 17:42.55 | herlo | right |
| 17:43.03 | herlo | which is why I use the watch directory |
| 17:43.14 | JoeyDay | 6 shows incomplete, 5 shows complete, 1 is main. |
| 17:43.20 | herlo | you definitely need to set up the .rtorrent.rc |
| 17:43.26 | JoeyDay | I'll look into doing that. |
| 17:43.36 | herlo | right and there's also 3 4 and 5 |
| 17:43.43 | herlo | er 2 |
| 17:43.58 | Zelut | herlo: how can I use zip to compress the contents of /etc? zip etc.zip /etc didn't do it.. |
| 17:44.10 | herlo | Zelut: you need -R |
| 17:44.21 | herlo | zip doesn't imply recursion |
| 17:44.30 | herlo | which both cpio and tar automatically do |
| 17:45.02 | Zelut | zip -R etc.zip /etc/? |
| 17:45.16 | herlo | yeah, something like that |
| 17:45.17 | Zelut | I'm coming up with a really small file--can't be right. |
| 17:47.32 | Zelut | zip -r etc.zip /etc/ did it.. |
| 17:47.33 | herlo | Zelut: do it from the /etc dir, works for me |
| 17:47.42 | herlo | oh, right sorry |
| 17:48.00 | Zelut | -R does a bit different, and if the file exists you have to tell it to overwrite or rm the file. |
| 17:48.23 | Zelut | I was just doing a compression level display for the kiddies. |
| 17:48.30 | herlo | thats fun! |
| 17:49.05 | herlo | Zelut: you should come join the GL chat room |
| 17:49.15 | herlo | but so far I've not figured out how to do it in bitlbee |
| 17:49.33 | herlo | plus, I don't see you on my buddy list |
| 17:49.46 | Zelut | I'm not logged in to IM just now |
| 17:51.08 | JoeyDay | herlo: Can I exit out of the rtorrent view and leave it running somehow? |
| 17:51.12 | JoeyDay | And come back to it later? |
| 17:51.24 | JoeyDay | Or do I pretty much need to keep this shell window open for the rest of eternity now? |
| 17:52.01 | Zelut | JoeyDay: load rtorrent in screen for that |
| 17:52.30 | herlo | JoeyDay: use screen |
| 17:52.37 | herlo | :) |
| 17:53.29 | herlo | then when you've got it loaded inside screen, do a 'Ctrl-a' then 'd' and it will run until you kill it |
| 17:59.24 | Hunding | is there a good CLI email program? |
| 17:59.29 | Zelut | herlo: I forget the add account syntax for the GL server.. ssl? 5223? |
| 17:59.31 | Zelut | Hunding: mutt |
| 17:59.43 | herlo | Zelut: lemme luck |
| 17:59.45 | herlo | look |
| 17:59.52 | herlo | Hunding: mail |
| 18:00.02 | Hunding | Zelut, thanks |
| 18:00.02 | herlo | okay, that's not good |
| 18:00.22 | Zelut | herlo: I need to get my chat server back up.. |
| 18:00.26 | Hunding | herlo: tried that one...way beyond my 8cut & paste* skill set |
| 18:00.47 | herlo | Zelut: I just used the defaults and the machine is mail.gurulabs.com |
| 18:00.47 | Hunding | s/8c/*c/ |
| 18:01.08 | herlo | Hunding: its simple, you type in the number of the message you want to read |
| 18:01.28 | herlo | Hunding: to delete a message you type 'd 4' and hit enter if its the 4th message |
| 18:01.40 | Zelut | herlo: account add jabber example@server.com password server.address:port:ssl ? adding my infor to mail.gl.com:5223:ssl won't connect. |
| 18:01.42 | herlo | Hunding: to quit, you type quit, what else do you need really? |
| 18:02.08 | Zelut | mail sucks. mutt is much nicer. |
| 18:02.20 | herlo | Zelut: what username did you use? I don't have @gurulabs.com on mine |
| 18:02.31 | Hunding | herlo: If only I recieved less than 100 emails a day, it might just be okay. |
| 18:02.38 | herlo | Zelut: oh, you are doing this in bitlbee? |
| 18:03.07 | herlo | Hunding: mail doesnt support imap or pop either, I was thinking this was just local mail you were accessing |
| 18:03.12 | Zelut | herlo: yeah.. |
| 18:03.13 | herlo | mutt does a much better job on that |
| 18:03.30 | Zelut | mutt -f imaps://user@mail.server |
| 18:03.40 | Zelut | mutt -f pops://user.name@pop.gmail.com ... |
| 18:03.45 | herlo | Zelut: why? You should use gaim so you can join us in the gl chat room. I've not been able to get the chat room to work in bitlbee |
| 18:04.27 | herlo | Zelut: afaik what you have should work... |
| 18:05.32 | Zelut | hmm.. |
| 18:05.49 | Zelut | I didn't know we had a chat room, but always thought it'd be a good idea. |
| 18:06.33 | herlo | Yeah, they've been getting me in there lately, but it doesn't work in bitlbee from what I can figure out |
| 18:07.43 | Zelut | weird |
| 18:08.45 | herlo | why is that wierd, bitlbee still is lacking features |
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| 18:22.06 | Zelut | herlo: ok, how do I join the room? |
| 18:22.06 | Hunding | how do you retrieve your email in mutt? I used the mutt -f pops://my_name@pop.gmail.com and sent myself a test msg from another account...but it keps telling me there is no msg... |
| 18:24.51 | opapo | I have a problem with my dhcp server I just set up. |
| 18:24.59 | opapo | I get the error: No subnet declaration for eth0 (205.118.116.201) |
| 18:25.55 | maquis | Hunding: what are you using to pull the mail down? |
| 18:26.18 | {phoenyx} | buy 9 spatulas, get the 10th for a penny! |
| 18:26.33 | {phoenyx} | doh, wrong chat |
| 18:26.34 | opapo | my dhcpd.conf file has a subnet for it though: subnet 205.118.116.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { |
| 18:26.34 | opapo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.24 | atoponce | i loved the spatula so much, i bought the company |
| 18:28.56 | atoponce | what a better what to say 'i love you' than with the gift of a spatula? |
| 18:31.17 | Hunding | maquis: I installed mutt and sent out a msg...no problem, but I can't seem to get the reply back into mutt.. |
| 18:31.44 | maquis | Hunding: do you have anything waiting to receive the message? |
| 18:32.03 | maquis | if you telnet to port 25 on the machine is there anything waiting there? |
| 18:32.30 | maquis | if there's nothing listening, it won't find anything |
| 18:32.31 | {phoenyx} | atoponce: lol, nice |
| 18:33.19 | atoponce | brb |
| 18:33.19 | Hunding | ok...so I guess I did not set mutt up correctly then...back to more reading |
| 18:33.32 | maquis | Hunding: mutt doesn't do the listening |
| 18:33.36 | maquis | you need another app involved |
| 18:33.42 | maquis | something like postfix would work well |
| 18:33.46 | Hunding | would that be the postfix? |
| 18:34.00 | Hunding | ok..I saw that get installed with the aptitude install mutt |
| 18:34.18 | maquis | Hunding: now you get to go set it up :) |
| 18:35.09 | Hunding | maquis: I swear you should wear a rubber suit some days! |
| 18:35.41 | herlo | Hunding: I think its latex, not rubber |
| 18:36.19 | herlo | Zelut: something like tools -> room list |
| 18:36.47 | Hunding | heh...yea, that is what I meant herlo |
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| 18:37.03 | Hunding | do I run something like this: running dpkg-reconfigure Postfix. main.cf |
| 18:37.13 | herlo | Hunding: use postconf |
| 18:38.15 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 18:38.16 | atoponce | i picked a bad server i tink |
| 18:38.16 | atoponce | brb |
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| 18:39.31 | Hunding | herlo: what is postconf ? |
| 18:39.43 | herlo | JoeyDay: I am writing the rtorrent tutorial now |
| 18:39.46 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah atoponce (n=aaron@oalug/member/atoponce) |
| 18:39.56 | JoeyDay | Sorry I dissappeared; my cable connect puked. |
| 18:39.58 | herlo | Hunding: it edits the postfix main.cf configuration |
| 18:40.06 | JoeyDay | Screen is awesome! |
| 18:40.10 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 18:40.15 | atoponce | something's funny |
| 18:40.22 | atoponce | JoeyDay: running irssi? |
| 18:40.26 | JoeyDay | herlo: The thing that will do RSS? |
| 18:40.40 | Hunding | can I use postconf through ssh? |
| 18:40.47 | JoeyDay | atoponce: No, but after reading your explanation for using screen on your blog just now I'm seriously considering it. |
| 18:40.58 | atoponce | JoeyDay: cool! screen rocks! |
| 18:41.00 | atoponce | brb |
| 18:42.20 | herlo | JoeyDay: no |
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| 18:42.36 | herlo | JoeyDay: that's bashT, its at http://www.herlo.org/projects/basht |
| 18:42.49 | JoeyDay | What percent functional is it? |
| 18:42.59 | herlo | bashT? about 80 |
| 18:43.03 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 18:43.04 | JoeyDay | Awesome. |
| 18:43.08 | atoponce | better, but still slow |
| 18:43.21 | JoeyDay | And presumably that would just drop the .torrent files into the directory where rtorrent picks them up? |
| 18:43.21 | herlo | I've got one more major hurdle to complete and it'll be at release 0.03 |
| 18:43.23 | herlo | :) |
| 18:43.28 | herlo | JoeyDay: correct |
| 18:43.48 | atoponce | one more time |
| 18:43.52 | herlo | JoeyDay: the old one already does it but it only makes an assumption based upon one particular type of torrent... |
| 18:43.56 | herlo | rss feed that is |
| 18:44.09 | atoponce | sorry for the join/quit spam. i'm trying to find the freenode server with the least lag |
| 18:44.18 | herlo | atoponce: you are fired! |
| 18:44.26 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.28 | atoponce | one more time |
| 18:44.28 | herlo | ~kick atoponce |
| 18:44.43 | jbot | ACTION kicks atoponce |
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| 18:45.08 | *** kick/#ubuntu-utah [herlo!n=aaron@oalug/member/atoponce] by atoponce (just for fun! :)) |
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| 18:48.02 | atoponce | well, i tried |
| 18:48.04 | atoponce | still slow |
| 18:48.07 | atoponce | oh well |
| 18:50.46 | atoponce | i think i hurt herlo's feelings... |
| 18:51.40 | atoponce | ツ |
| 18:51.40 | JoeyDay | He hasn't come back in, has he? |
| 18:51.49 | atoponce | nope |
| 18:51.58 | atoponce | i have him on jabber too, and i think he's ignoring me |
| 18:51.59 | atoponce | :) |
| 18:58.39 | atoponce | ~onjoin herlo no pouting now... that's not becoming of a growing linux nerd |
| 18:58.40 | jbot | ok, atoponce |
| 19:04.03 | opapo | I can't get any help with a dhcp problem on #ubuntu nor #debian |
| 19:04.31 | opapo | I got snubbed in the latter channel |
| 19:04.54 | opapo | Can anyone here help with a dhcp problem? |
| 19:05.12 | atoponce | opapo: i'm not too very good with dhcp servers, but i might be able to help |
| 19:06.19 | atoponce | and yes, #debian is full of a bunch of elitists |
| 19:07.26 | opapo | atoponce: I get the error: No subnet declaration for eth0 (205.118.116.201) |
| 19:07.56 | atoponce | opapo: you're setting up a dhcp server on a box for other clients to connect to? |
| 19:08.03 | opapo | yes |
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| 19:09.00 | herlo | ~lart atoponce |
| 19:09.00 | jbot | runs at atoponce with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
| 19:09.13 | atoponce | :) |
| 19:09.36 | Zelut | it wasn't bad, no. |
| 19:09.39 | Zelut | oops |
| 19:10.28 | atoponce | opapo: have you assigned the dhcp server a static ip address? |
| 19:10.40 | opapo | I have |
| 19:10.50 | opapo | here is my conf file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22474/ |
| 19:11.56 | atoponce | and .116.201 is a dns server as well? |
| 19:12.12 | opapo | atoponce: that is the address of the box |
| 19:12.24 | atoponce | of the dhcp server? |
| 19:12.28 | opapo | yes |
| 19:12.39 | atoponce | and in your conf file, you telling it that it's a dns server too |
| 19:13.03 | opapo | I was at one point |
| 19:13.04 | atoponce | herlo: any ideas? you're better at this... |
| 19:13.47 | opapo | This was my base: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/343 |
| 19:14.23 | herlo | atoponce: about? |
| 19:14.39 | atoponce | herlo: opapo is trying to setup a dhcp server |
| 19:14.49 | atoponce | he's getting No subnet declaration for eth0 error |
| 19:19.49 | atoponce | opapo: this might help.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=480114 |
| 19:19.57 | atoponce | not sure if you've seen that or not |
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| 19:24.34 | opapo | OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!! |
| 19:24.39 | herlo | atoponce: he has to have the one of his network devices configured for that ip range |
| 19:24.41 | opapo | thanks atoponce: |
| 19:24.51 | herlo | was I close? |
| 19:24.55 | opapo | I have ltsp installed |
| 19:25.16 | atoponce | opapo: np. so it's working now? |
| 19:25.24 | opapo | it started atleast |
| 19:25.39 | opapo | why have two dhcp servers? |
| 19:25.50 | opapo | one in ltsp and one where it normally is? |
| 19:26.13 | opapo | oh well |
| 19:26.13 | atoponce | is that was is created? |
| 19:26.41 | opapo | ltsp apparently has it's own dhcp server |
| 19:26.42 | opapo | and |
| 19:27.23 | opapo | when I tried to restart dhcp3-server it was looking at the config file in the ltsp directory |
| 19:28.07 | opapo | whatever it is fixed now |
| 19:28.53 | atoponce | cool |
| 19:29.16 | atoponce | now, to see if it sends out leases |
| 19:30.45 | opapo | not enough unused cables to do that |
| 19:30.45 | opapo | I'll have to wait on that one |
| 19:30.45 | opapo | I'll try that and report how it went |
| 19:31.10 | atoponce | cool. and if you can find out why you would need 2 dhcp daemons installed |
| 19:36.58 | opapo | atoponce: I am using this server for a thin client server |
| 19:37.44 | opapo | I installed ltsp: Linux Terminal Services Project |
| 19:37.59 | opapo | that apparently has a dhcp that I didn't know about |
| 19:38.20 | opapo | I installed the dhcp server to test figure it out |
| 19:52.47 | atoponce | synico: how do you paste from the linux clipboard into gvim? |
| 19:52.58 | synico | "+p |
| 19:54.09 | atoponce | sweet. thx |
| 19:57.56 | maquis | synic: is there a way to copy from vim to the linux clipboard? (aside from selecting in the terminal) |
| 19:57.59 | maquis | ? |
| 19:58.14 | atoponce | how can i specify a gap (padding or margin) in css without affecting the statically set width and height? |
| 19:58.31 | atoponce | maquis: select, then "+y |
| 19:58.48 | maquis | atoponce: the + makes it go to the clipboard? |
| 19:58.50 | maquis | interesting |
| 20:00.15 | synic | * does something too, but I can't remember what. |
| 20:21.58 | maquis | *YAWN* |
| 20:22.25 | Zelut | herlo: ping |
| 20:23.21 | atoponce | is it a w3c standard to put i div in an achor tag in xhtml 1 transitional? |
| 20:23.25 | atoponce | anyone know off hand? |
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| 20:29.08 | maquis | ~onjoin -jared |
| 20:29.09 | jbot | ok, maquis |
| 20:34.09 | maquis | a parody of what? |
| 20:34.44 | findlay | ubuntified rtfm and friends |
| 20:40.25 | findlay | ~ubuntu maquis |
| 20:40.42 | jbot | ACTION lovingly explains to maquis that he must read the fine manual in a way that causes maquis to weep with gratitude |
| 20:42.31 | findlay | ~ubuntu ChanServ |
| 20:42.34 | jbot | ACTION lovingly explains to ChanServ in a way that causes ChanServ to weep with gratitude that ChanServ must read the fine, friendly manual |
| 20:43.43 | atoponce | rtffm? |
| 20:44.10 | findlay | sure |
| 20:44.17 | atoponce | :) |
| 20:44.54 | atoponce | read the fine featureful friendly manual |
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| 21:03.47 | Zelut | time to head home |
| 21:05.29 | JoeyDay | herlo: How do I build a configuration file for rtorrent again? |
| 21:05.46 | JoeyDay | None of the docs I'm looking at specify where to place the file. |
| 21:08.07 | JoeyDay | Ah, never mind. Found it. |
| 21:08.21 | JoeyDay | I keep asking questions before I rtfm. Sorry. :( |
| 21:12.08 | atoponce | ~debian JoeyDay |
| 21:12.12 | jbot | ACTION tells n=aaron to RTFM!!!! GAH!!! HELL FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!! BURN!!! DIE!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
| 21:12.17 | atoponce | heh |
| 21:12.21 | atoponce | that backfired |
| 21:12.25 | atoponce | :) |
| 21:13.18 | atoponce | ~debian JoeyDay |
| 21:13.20 | jbot | ACTION tells JoeyDay to RTFM!!!! GAH!!! HELL FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!!!! BURN!!! DIE!!! MWAHAHAHAHA!!!! |
| 21:13.43 | JoeyDay | atoponce: lol |
| 21:13.48 | atoponce | :D |
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| 22:03.58 | herlo | JoeyDay: you need to get the .rtorrent.rc file |
| 22:04.09 | herlo | no worries |
| 22:04.23 | herlo | Zelut: pong |
| 22:05.01 | herlo | atoponce: I'm considering coming up tomorrow to the oalug meet |
| 22:07.58 | atoponce | herlo: cool. it'd be nice to see you there, if you can make it |
| 22:18.41 | herlo | atoponce: I can make it, its just a matter of how early I get to bed and what time I decide to wake up. its a long drive from Orem... |
| 22:18.58 | atoponce | you don't have to if you don't want to |
| 22:19.09 | atoponce | orem to ogden *is* a bit of a drive |
| 22:19.20 | atoponce | and we're downtown ogden |
| 22:20.07 | herlo | I know |
| 22:20.33 | herlo | and I appreciate you letting me have an excuse, I might use it. But I'd also like to be there... |
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