| 00:11.55 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: the ssh terminal with "other@other-desktop:~$" is just like running a terminal on my local machine right? |
| 00:26.18 | Yorokobi | essentially, yeah |
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| 02:27.51 | clutchmm | well it seems that ssh is running very smoothly, so just to be clear.. when I install openssh server on my moms machine, that is all I need to do as far as ssh is concerned right? I don't have to do any other special setup for the ssh server? |
| 02:30.50 | fizz | clutchmm: about switching workspaces by moving the mouse off the edge of the desktop... you may want to check out the enlightenment window manager. |
| 02:32.21 | clutchmm | fizz: how do I check that out? and will it still use all my settings from the gnome window manager? |
| 02:33.13 | fizz | it will not use your gnome settings. it is a crazy different window manager. |
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| 03:00.34 | clutchmm | ok fizz I installed it but how do I use it? just reboot? |
| 03:08.22 | fizz | at the login screen go to change session |
| 03:08.40 | fizz | change the session to e17 (or whatever version you installed) |
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| 03:12.56 | clutchmm | cool, I'll try it out |
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| 03:17.05 | Zelut | man you guys are saints |
| 03:19.03 | fizz | good thing i know you aren't talking to me. |
| 03:19.07 | fizz | :) |
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| 03:20.34 | clutchmm | wow fizz this is weird |
| 03:20.56 | Zelut | if someone was looking for workspace switching via mouse: http://debaday.debian.net/2007/05/06/brightside-workspace-switcher/ |
| 03:21.13 | clutchmm | that was me Zelut |
| 03:22.55 | Zelut | check out that link. It should let you switch spaces via screen-edge with the mouse. |
| 03:23.19 | Zelut | I use the keyboard shortcuts, but that is for those more mouse-friendly :) |
| 03:24.05 | fizz | clutch: yeah enlightenment is weird |
| 03:27.40 | Zelut | I've yet to really figure it out. |
| 03:28.28 | clutchmm | fizz: the one big problem I'm having with this is that I changed the resolution but the text is still small as hell, even for me |
| 03:28.38 | clutchmm | I can hardly read anything |
| 03:30.14 | clutchmm | alright websites are ok but gaim needs a magnifier |
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| 03:31.13 | clutchmm | even with a reload it's still small |
| 03:32.09 | clutchmm | ? |
| 03:32.16 | clutchmm | arg |
| 03:32.29 | fizz | i haven't used enlightenment in awhile |
| 03:32.40 | fizz | sorry, i'm not sure how to change that stuff |
| 03:32.56 | clutchmm | I'm going bach to gnome for now |
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| 03:33.01 | fizz | did you check the docs on the website? |
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| 03:36.06 | clutchmm | much better |
| 03:36.39 | clutchmm | fizz: that was a really cool manager but the text size sucks big time |
| 03:40.35 | fizz | did you look at the docs on there website to change the text size? |
| 03:42.04 | clutchmm | not yet, I'm going to try brightside first, plus I kind of have this new machine on my mind, I need to get it suitable for use soon |
| 03:44.45 | clutchmm | THANKS!!! Zelut that is exactly what I needed |
| 03:48.13 | Zelut | clutchmm: no problem |
| 03:50.07 | clutchmm | this is working perfectly :) although e12 is very intriguing and I will have to spend some time reading up on it |
| 03:51.29 | clutchmm | Zelut: is there a website that lists all the packages available and what they do as well as how well they work? |
| 03:54.15 | herlo | I love it when people join a channel and then leave 30 seconds later! It's great! |
| 03:56.10 | Zelut | clutchmm: uhm.. there are 21,000+ packages in the main repositories. |
| 03:56.40 | Zelut | clutchmm: http://packages.ubuntu.com I think might be the closest. |
| 03:56.43 | Zelut | brb |
| 04:04.32 | fizz | clutch: which version of enlightenment did you try? honestly, in my opinion, enlightenment is more of a novelty. |
| 04:05.13 | fizz | as opposed to gnome which is just plain useful AND beautiful. :) |
| 04:10.28 | Zelut | we have very few kde folk in here i notice |
| 04:20.03 | clutchmm | fizz: I installed e17 |
| 04:22.19 | clutchmm | anyway, I am going, I need to take my mind off this abomination for now, good night all |
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| 04:26.26 | Zelut | herlo: ping |
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| 04:31.16 | herlo | Zelut: pong |
| 04:31.56 | herlo | Zelut: I just finished watching Season1 of The Sopranos |
| 04:32.32 | Zelut | herlo: thoughts? |
| 04:32.57 | herlo | Zelut: Interesting, I am definitely interested in continuing |
| 04:33.19 | Zelut | herlo: also, do you happen to know whether or not the IP on the treo is static or dynamic? |
| 04:33.30 | herlo | I wish Tony liked Carmella a bit more, but at least they work together |
| 04:33.33 | herlo | Zelut: dynamic. |
| 04:33.47 | undertakingyou | herlo: did you get my email on the UOSC mailing list? |
| 04:34.00 | herlo | undertakingyou: about? |
| 04:35.18 | undertakingyou | Sorry, we talked about getting me on the mailing list the other day |
| 04:35.30 | herlo | Zelut: I also think its interesting how the Sopranos can just straight up lie about everything... |
| 04:35.46 | herlo | undertakingyou: yeah, but I didn't recall seeing anything... where'd you send it? |
| 04:36.39 | herlo | Zelut: another question I have is if you think you'll have time now to help with the Conference again now that you've passed your exams? |
| 04:36.48 | undertakingyou | I was having IM problems with IM I put it on the forum. I'll try and IM again. |
| 04:37.16 | Zelut | herlo: most likely. I've gotten back to blogging so I think I'm getting back into the swing, yeah. |
| 04:38.49 | Zelut | bed time for me. |
| 04:39.01 | undertakingyou | Zelut: just thought I'd follow up with you on the advertising stuff we talked about in the IRC meeting. I got ahold of the people at SLCC and they said they can do radio, local tv and paper for us |
| 04:39.13 | herlo | Zelut: cool. you are at GL tomorrow right? |
| 04:39.23 | Zelut | herlo: I am in the office this week, yeah. |
| 04:39.28 | herlo | cool |
| 04:39.37 | herlo | I'll be chatting with you I am sure then.. |
| 04:39.48 | Zelut | where are you this week? |
| 04:39.55 | Zelut | undertakingyou: cool. can you email any details? |
| 04:40.14 | undertakingyou | Yes, I'll send what I have so far. |
| 04:40.20 | Zelut | great |
| 04:40.28 | herlo | undertakingyou: do you think you could do such a thing for UTOSC? |
| 04:40.48 | Zelut | nite |
| 04:40.55 | herlo | Zelut: goodnight man |
| 04:41.05 | undertakingyou | I'm sure that we could do that for anything we needed. Get me your email and I'll send the same. I'm also trying to get ahold of the U people. Haven't heard back yet though. |
| 04:43.24 | herlo | undertakingyou: well, I'd love to help with the Ubuntu stuff too as that is my goal. Growing Open Source in general though is more important in my view |
| 04:43.44 | herlo | and thus including more than just Ubuntu |
| 04:44.13 | undertakingyou | True, Open source idea in general is what drew me to ubuntu |
| 04:45.44 | herlo | undertakingyou: cool, I am glad to hear I am not the only one involved that thinks so |
| 04:45.50 | herlo | not that I really thought that :) |
| 04:46.00 | undertakingyou | lol |
| 04:46.01 | herlo | and a ;) for atoponce |
| 04:46.10 | herlo | <mock horror/> |
| 04:47.21 | herlo | undertakingyou: I hope you can start coming to our irc meets |
| 04:47.40 | undertakingyou | I'd like too. When are they and what channel? |
| 04:47.41 | herlo | they're scheduled for 9am on Saturday's but we'll see if that continues... |
| 04:47.45 | herlo | #utos |
| 04:48.10 | undertakingyou | Is that every saturday? |
| 04:48.21 | herlo | I suspect the meetings will happen twice a week sometimes too |
| 04:48.49 | herlo | undertakingyou: yes, and we used to do meetings on Tuesday nights. I am thinking that we might just have both.. |
| 04:49.05 | undertakingyou | Very good. Saturdays are the busy day at work, but I get one off a month. I will try and make it to all that I can. Tuesdays will probably work fine. |
| 04:49.45 | herlo | that way, those who can't make the Saturday meet can make the Tuesday. Oh, and we do have an in-person meet (which for some reason, I've not been able to attend recently) on the Second Wednesday after PLUG in Orem |
| 04:50.01 | herlo | undertakingyou: where do you work? |
| 04:50.26 | undertakingyou | I work at Larkin Mortuary in Downtown Salt Lake. I am the I.S. Manger and a funeral director there. |
| 04:50.44 | herlo | undertakingyou: thus the name |
| 04:51.01 | herlo | and I suppose you like "Six Feet Under"? |
| 04:51.12 | herlo | anyway, sorry for the poor humor :) |
| 04:51.18 | undertakingyou | Yes, it bugs some people. Like my boss for instance. Only seen 5 minutes of 6 feet under ever. |
| 04:51.20 | undertakingyou | Don't know. |
| 04:51.37 | herlo | doesn't bug me, though I could never work there... |
| 04:51.50 | herlo | death has an ultimately eerie feeling for me |
| 04:51.51 | undertakingyou | That's ok, job security :) |
| 04:52.14 | herlo | so are you usually up and at work by 9am on Saturdays? |
| 04:53.04 | undertakingyou | My schedule alternates by week. One week I work 8:00 to 4:30 and then the next from 9:30 to 6:00. So nine is right at a tough time. |
| 04:53.12 | herlo | yep |
| 04:53.14 | herlo | I see that |
| 04:53.30 | herlo | Yeah, I think maybe I'll rotate the meetings then... |
| 04:53.43 | herlo | Have 2 a week for a while so we can get more done... |
| 04:54.11 | herlo | BTW, you should be getting an email tomorrow then announcing the next meeting at PLUG this Wednesday... |
| 04:54.20 | undertakingyou | That'd be cool. I should be able to make the Tuesday night meetings for sure. |
| 04:54.22 | herlo | undertakingyou: thanx |
| 04:54.27 | undertakingyou | NP |
| 04:54.30 | undertakingyou | Seeya |
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| 05:25.16 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
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| 15:01.36 | nurn_ | morning |
| 15:02.12 | sontek | good morning |
| 15:19.31 | Zelut | morning |
| 15:26.06 | atoponce | Zelut: pong |
| 15:27.25 | Zelut | atoponce: no idea.. past 12hrs ;) |
| 15:27.48 | atoponce | :) |
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| 15:31.13 | atoponce | wrong windows |
| 15:31.13 | atoponce | blash |
| 15:31.57 | atoponce | there goes my irssi uptime |
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| 15:51.01 | tristanbob_ | wow this channel has grown |
| 15:51.39 | tristanbob_ | almost half the size of #utah |
| 15:51.46 | Zelut | w00t |
| 15:51.54 | Zelut | and on-topic more often :) |
| 16:00.08 | Zelut | synic: ping |
| 16:04.16 | Zelut | I was just reading that it was three years between the 2.4 kernel and 2.6, which has now been out 2yrs. Should we expect a 2.8 soon? |
| 16:04.29 | Zelut | *which has now been out 3 yrs. |
| 16:06.54 | baens | Zelut: no, the development of the kernel is different now |
| 16:07.17 | baens | Zelut: there use to be a experimental branch (2.5) and now its all in one branch (2.6) |
| 16:08.18 | Zelut | ahh |
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| 16:09.15 | baens | theres a really good article on it and im trying to find it |
| 16:10.11 | baens | http://kernelnewbies.org/FAQ/VariousKernelTrees is kinda cool |
| 16:23.27 | baens | ok so I cant find that article but oh well |
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| 16:25.08 | Zelut | man, only 10:30 and I'm ready for lunch. |
| 16:25.20 | Zelut | still on a bit of georgia time I guess :) |
| 16:25.48 | baens | mid-morning snack time :) |
| 16:32.11 | Zelut | baens: were you at the release party? |
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| 16:36.05 | clutchmm | this is messed up, I can now make an ssh connection to my moms machine from my house(I rebooted her machine with her on it :) ) but when I try to open vncviewer with localhost:5910 the connection still times out |
| 16:48.25 | clutchmm | any thoughts? |
| 16:49.30 | Zelut | are you still binding the port via your ssh connection? |
| 16:59.45 | clutchmm | you mean "5910:pub.lic.ip:5900" ? |
| 17:06.06 | baens | Zelut: no i wasn't at the release party, I just learned about ubuntu utah the day after that party |
| 17:08.57 | Zelut | baens: well hopefully you can make the next meet |
| 17:11.56 | atoponce | etank, [phoenyx], Zelut, herlo, findlay: new updates to introplay |
| 17:12.06 | herlo | atoponce: cool, I'll check it out |
| 17:13.52 | baens | Zelut: I am going to try |
| 17:14.13 | etank | got to put in my workout anyway |
| 17:15.00 | [phoenyx] | atoponce: so 8 days left in this round, then a new round starts? |
| 17:15.25 | atoponce | [phoenyx]: if you want. the leagues just start and end as people want |
| 17:15.40 | atoponce | we can start a new league to pick up after this one finishes, if you want |
| 17:16.08 | atoponce | anyone can start a league, anytime, and invite anyone |
| 17:16.09 | atoponce | :) |
| 17:16.18 | [phoenyx] | that would be nice. I didn't do so hot this time around. |
| 17:16.34 | clutchmm | Zelut: if I can establish an ssh connection just fine, shouldn't I be able to get vnc with "vncviewer localhost:5910"? |
| 17:37.24 | clutchmm | what "leagues" are you guys talking about? |
| 17:39.52 | [phoenyx] | clutchmm: atoponce works for a startup (introplay.com) |
| 17:40.36 | clutchmm | ok, I still don't know what that is :) |
| 17:41.06 | [phoenyx] | it does fitness tracking with a point systems that lets you compete with other teams/individuals |
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| 17:43.28 | clutchmm | oh |
| 17:45.09 | clutchmm | Zelut: is "5910:pu.li.c.ip:5900" what you meant by "binding" the port? |
| 17:45.50 | clutchmm | *5910:pu.bl.ic.ip:5900* |
| 17:47.01 | baens | is this introplay.com site free? |
| 17:51.01 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: you may have an easier time using an ssh config file similar to : http://rafb.net/p/6QCuLh11.html |
| 17:54.13 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: ssh is working fine, I had my mom install the openssh server and I connected to her machine with cli just fine, I even rebooted it for her from here, when I use ssh and then tunnel vnc on the new machine I have been setting up here it works fine, but when I connect via ssh to my moms machine then try tunneling vnc I get the same connection timed out error I was getting when I was only using vnc |
| 17:56.35 | Yorokobi | ah, that's what I get for jumping into a conversation half-way. Here's a better config: http://rafb.net/p/aSShy045.html |
| 17:57.07 | atoponce | baens: yes |
| 17:57.14 | atoponce | baens: but, we're not released yet |
| 17:57.30 | atoponce | i only have a few beta testers currently, from this team |
| 18:01.54 | baens | atoponce: aah cool, I know a couple of people who would probably like this kinda stuff (sister-in-law is a trainer for a gym) |
| 18:02.01 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: first, can I create that file with my ssh connection from here? second, if I do that then when I go to create a connection instead of "vnc -L 5910:....etc" I will just open a terminal and type "ssh mom-vnc" to open the connection |
| 18:02.26 | atoponce | baens: we will be released this week, for sure, so keep an eye on the front page |
| 18:02.35 | baens | atoponce: will do |
| 18:03.07 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: the file is ~/.ssh/config ... you can copy everything until the ---- to that file and use the shorter ssh commands |
| 18:03.33 | Yorokobi | that file is for the client-side ssh, not for the server |
| 18:03.46 | clutchmm | oh, cool |
| 18:04.23 | clutchmm | so I need to change it on my laptop not my moms machine |
| 18:04.24 | Yorokobi | 'man ssh_config' and 'man sshd_config' are great resources for tweaking ssh and sshd, respectively |
| 18:05.02 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: that's correct, the config in the paste is for your laptop, change it to suit your particular requirements |
| 18:10.21 | clutchmm | so to open the file I need to do "gksudo gedit /.ssh/config"? |
| 18:10.38 | Yorokobi | sans gksudo |
| 18:10.50 | clutchmm | why sans? |
| 18:10.53 | Yorokobi | and add ~ (~/.ssh/config) |
| 18:11.05 | Yorokobi | gedit ~/.ssh/config |
| 18:11.16 | Yorokobi | or 'gedit /home/yourname/.ssh/config' |
| 18:11.27 | Yorokobi | sans == without |
| 18:12.32 | clutchmm | so no gksudo just gedit? |
| 18:12.54 | Yorokobi | no gksudo, the file shouldn't be owned by root |
| 18:13.18 | clutchmm | ok it's open and the file is blank |
| 18:13.32 | Yorokobi | yeah, you'll be creating a new file |
| 18:14.31 | clutchmm | and I want to change "momusername" to her username for her machine right? |
| 18:15.30 | Yorokobi | yup, and the bogus IP to the correct one in each instance |
| 18:16.45 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: you may want to add 'HostKeyAlias localhost' as well to the list of options ... |
| 18:18.09 | clutchmm | ok, when I connect the new machine to the network I will need to forward port 23 to 22 for the new machine, how do I connect to port 23 with ssh? |
| 18:18.42 | Yorokobi | ah, add 'Port 22' to the config under the correct Host entry |
| 18:18.49 | Yorokobi | er, 'Port 23' |
| 18:19.20 | clutchmm | so "local.ip:23"? |
| 18:19.36 | clutchmm | under "hostname"? |
| 18:19.39 | Yorokobi | no, 'Port 23' as a line all its own |
| 18:20.35 | clutchmm | so after "HostName" add Port 23? |
| 18:21.40 | Yorokobi | http://rafb.net/p/e7KKJu29.html |
| 18:21.47 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: ^^^ |
| 18:24.16 | clutchmm | thanks |
| 18:31.41 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: then add "HostKeyAlias localhost" to each Host listing right? |
| 18:33.51 | Yorokobi | yeah, I forgot that in my example. Or, create a 'Host *' and add the HostKeyAlias directive there |
| 18:35.49 | clutchmm | I got it, so.. ssh bro-vnc works great but it still only opens an ssh connection(but it much easier and nicer) but what do I have to do for the actual vncviewer connection? |
| 18:36.25 | Yorokobi | same as before, launch the viewer and connect to localhost:591X |
| 18:37.35 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: did anyone ever point you to NX? |
| 18:37.50 | Yorokobi | (or FreeNX) |
| 18:38.08 | clutchmm | yeah, it's i386 only and I have amd64 |
| 18:39.04 | clutchmm | just so I know, was the point of the ssh config file just to make ssh connections easier or will it help vnc open? |
| 18:39.20 | Yorokobi | mostly the first |
| 18:39.33 | Yorokobi | the TCPKeepAlive *may* help with the second |
| 18:40.03 | clutchmm | well, lets find out :) just a sec |
| 18:41.20 | clutchmm | before I do, will "Host *" add any entries in it to all others by default? |
| 18:43.12 | Yorokobi | Yeah, the * makes it global |
| 18:44.16 | clutchmm | cool |
| 18:46.15 | clutchmm | alright, I'm going to test I'll be right back |
| 18:55.56 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: check this out http://rafb.net/p/a8h33j23.html |
| 18:56.39 | clutchmm | what the hell is that? |
| 18:57.13 | Yorokobi | that's what happens sometimes when there are multiple entries for localhost in the known_hosts file |
| 18:57.35 | clutchmm | so what do I do? |
| 18:57.38 | Yorokobi | (not limited to localhost, strictly speaking) |
| 18:58.10 | Yorokobi | edit the ~/.ssh/known_hosts file and delete line 3, maybe 3-EOF |
| 18:59.40 | clutchmm | how do I show hidden files in the gedit open files window? |
| 19:00.00 | clutchmm | oh |
| 19:00.04 | clutchmm | nm |
| 19:00.26 | Yorokobi | $ vim ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
| 19:00.27 | Yorokobi | :) |
| 19:00.49 | baens | clutchmm: right click on the window and i *believe* there should be a option |
| 19:02.12 | Zelut | ctrl-H shows hidden inside nautilus |
| 19:02.18 | clutchmm | uhhhh.... this file is funky, and I can't read it. should I just delete everything or count to line 3 and then delete? |
| 19:02.37 | Yorokobi | SSH complained about line 3 |
| 19:02.49 | Yorokobi | "Offending key in /home/clutch/.ssh/known_hosts:3" |
| 19:04.11 | Zelut | deleting everything really wont hurt.. you'll just have to accept it again next time. |
| 19:05.20 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: if you want to make your known_hosts a bit easier to read, edit (as root) /etc/ssh/ssh_config and change HashKnownHosts from yes to no |
| 19:06.36 | clutchmm | alright, I used vim to figure out which line was 3, there where only 3 lines but they are wrapped so they show as 10 or so lines each in the editor |
| 19:08.01 | clutchmm | alright ssh worked with the new config file when connecting to my moms machine, now for the real test of vnc |
| 19:15.41 | clutchmm | ok Yorokobi here is what I get with a vnc connection http://rafb.net/p/UYWU1w79.html but the vnc connection to the new machine that is still on my network works fine |
| 19:16.34 | clutchmm | but when I tried to connect to the new machine with ssh I got the known_hosts error again and had to wipe the file again |
| 19:16.56 | Yorokobi | same line? (3) |
| 19:17.08 | clutchmm | no, this time it was line 4 |
| 19:17.47 | Yorokobi | out of how many lines? |
| 19:17.49 | clutchmm | which I believe replaced line 3 |
| 19:17.52 | clutchmm | 3 |
| 19:18.09 | clutchmm | well one line was empty space |
| 19:18.18 | Yorokobi | :/ the HostKeyAlias localhost entry was supposed to prevent that |
| 19:18.42 | clutchmm | I added that to "Host *" |
| 19:19.29 | Yorokobi | remove it and see if you run into the same problem |
| 19:21.49 | clutchmm | oh, and at my moms end with the vnc error her terminal says "Channel 3:open failed: connect failed: Connection timed out" |
| 19:22.08 | Zelut | task for the day.. see if I can connect via bluetooth from my laptop to my treo for internet. |
| 19:22.45 | Yorokobi | omnium fortunam, Zelut |
| 19:25.21 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: after deleting that line I had to add the host again but then I logged out and back in and it went off without a hitch for mom and bros machines |
| 19:26.53 | Yorokobi | Figures. I need to study up on SSH again |
| 19:31.13 | clutchmm | sweet, well ssh works great, I'm going to stick with it's a problem with my isp here in Eureka and vnc is fine, and lastly.... there are multiple accounts on my moms machine, so do I just use an ssh login for each user and run vnc the same or do I need to configure more hosts? |
| 19:31.49 | Yorokobi | or omit the User line for the host and ssh user@mom-vnc instead (simplest) |
| 19:32.11 | clutchmm | actually I need to add another host in .ssh/config for each user |
| 19:32.35 | clutchmm | or... whatever you think would work best :) |
| 19:32.41 | clutchmm | sorry I type slow |
| 19:35.32 | clutchmm | BEAUTYMUS!!! user@mom-vnc it is |
| 19:36.19 | clutchmm | so what about when she is logged into XP? does it stay the same? |
| 19:36.53 | Hunding | seems that "root" owns my /dev/dvd/ . Anyone know how I can change that so that I can use the dvd? |
| 19:37.20 | Hunding | when she is logged into XP use RDP... |
| 19:38.18 | clutchmm | how do I use RDP? |
| 19:38.24 | Hunding | clutchmm: should be one of the options in Terminal Server Client. I use at all day long and never have any issues with it and my windows machines |
| 19:38.38 | clutchmm | ok |
| 19:38.54 | Hunding | just drop the menu down to RDP rather than VNC |
| 19:39.06 | Hunding | save it as a profile... :) Your gold! |
| 19:39.54 | Hunding | as long as she is using XP pro...XP home does not work as you cannot set a password on it |
| 19:40.13 | Hunding | and RDC requires a PWD before it will let you in...at least that is my experience with it |
| 19:40.46 | Yorokobi | I thought Home didn't have a RDP server option |
| 19:41.33 | Hunding | oh it will work... |
| 19:41.42 | clutchmm | the vnc works fine with xp I already have tightvnc server installed on xp but how do I make the ssh connection once I setup ssh on xp |
| 19:41.49 | Hunding | but a lot of messing around to get a password into it |
| 19:42.05 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: you don't, unless XP is also running a SSH server |
| 19:43.10 | clutchmm | I was going to install an ssh server on xp to secure the vnc connection |
| 19:44.08 | Yorokobi | ah ... well, the process will be the same but you'll run into the known_hosts problem again. |
| 19:44.57 | Yorokobi | but I think I have that figured out, after the HostName entry, add 'HostKeyAlias pub.ip.add.res' (no global) |
| 19:46.34 | Yorokobi | Hunding: does Ubuntu auto-mount your DVD (or ask to do so) when you put it in the drive? |
| 19:57.49 | clutchmm | Yorokobi: that new hostkeyalias line seemed to work right, so once the ssh server is installed on xp I just do "ssh mom-vnc" I know with vnc for xp the connection was pu.bl.ic.ip:0 but for feisty it was mom@mom-desktop:pu.bl.ic.ip:0 |
| 20:00.20 | Hunding | Yorokobi: yes it auto mounts...I can unmount simply by typing umount /dev/hdc |
| 20:00.20 | herlo | Zelut: have you heard of http://mugshot.org ? |
| 20:08.44 | Yorokobi | Hunding: I think it should be owned by root:cdrom (eg: brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 11, 1 2007-05-07 03:48 /dev/scd1) |
| 20:09.42 | Yorokobi | Note: I have SCSI CD drives, ergo /dev/scd1 |
| 20:09.51 | Zelut | herlo: I keep seeing mentions on fedora planet, but I haven't |
| 20:10.11 | Zelut | herlo: trying to get connectivity via bluetooth -> treo working right now |
| 20:12.10 | herlo | Zelut: did you read the guide at gurulabs.com? If so, there's a couple things you have to do to fix it... |
| 20:13.08 | Zelut | herlo: looking at it now and trying to figure those out. |
| 20:13.57 | Zelut | herlo: as if its not hard enough I'm trying it on ubuntu and on a later model not outlined in that spec. |
| 20:16.50 | herlo | Zelut: yeah, not sure of how to do it on Ubuntu... |
| 20:17.23 | Zelut | herlo: I'm making progress.. |
| 20:17.46 | herlo | I'd like to see that demo |
| 20:21.51 | Zelut | herlo: any suggestions here? (from /var/log/messages): http://pastebin.ca/475957 |
| 20:23.39 | herlo | Zelut: it looks like its not paired up... |
| 20:29.05 | Zelut | herlo: it is a trusted device and hcitool cc MAC, hcitool auth MAC both work.. |
| 20:29.10 | Zelut | herlo: what else might I be missing? |
| 20:35.37 | Zelut | herlo: do you know what the apn is for sprint? |
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| 20:47.34 | Zelut | herlo: looks like there is actually quite a bit more on the 700p |
| 20:47.58 | Zelut | herlo: I'll have to do this when I can do a sync, install a patch via the hotsync, etc |
| 20:52.16 | [phoenyx] | is there a flag or some such to skip over all of the "Permission Denied"'s with the 'find' command? |
| 20:52.43 | Zelut | send sterr to /dev/null |
| 20:52.57 | maquis | 2>/dev/null |
| 20:56.57 | [phoenyx] | thanks, much nicer |
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| 21:17.38 | herlo | Zelut: I don't know what an apn is |
| 21:17.58 | herlo | Zelut: ask Dax, he's got it working I think... |
| 21:18.30 | Zelut | herlo: I found another link that says there is a whole software hack that needs to be uploaded for the 700p |
| 21:19.44 | redbeard2 | does ubuntu have any good dvd authoring tools? |
| 21:20.50 | Yorokobi | redbeard2: check out http://www.linuxeq.com/ |
| 21:21.25 | redbeard2 | Yorokobi: hey, this is cool. thanks! |
| 21:21.43 | Yorokobi | np |
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| 21:35.30 | herlo | Zelut: oh, interesting |
| 21:36.34 | redbeard2 | how do i tell which version of ubuntu i'm running? |
| 21:36.45 | herlo | cat /etc/*-release |
| 21:37.08 | redbeard2 | tnx |
| 21:37.52 | herlo | redbeard2: np |
| 21:38.03 | herlo | redbeard2: that works for most every distro I know of... |
| 21:39.07 | Zelut | atoponce: ping |
| 21:39.45 | Zelut | how do I get ssh-agent to take my key at login for the keyring? |
| 21:39.58 | herlo | ssh-add |
| 21:40.01 | herlo | :) |
| 21:40.25 | atoponce | Zelut: ssh-add, but, you can't do it at login, as it needs the passphrase to the key(s) |
| 21:40.25 | Zelut | can I add that maybe to gnome sessions? |
| 21:40.40 | Yorokobi | ssh-add is correct, but won't work if your pub key requires a password |
| 21:41.15 | Zelut | atoponce: so my id_rsa.pub requires a password so I will need to manually run ssh-add to cache it? |
| 21:41.49 | atoponce | yeah. in order to add it to your gnome agent, assuming you're running gnome, you'll need to manually run it in a terminal |
| 21:42.08 | herlo | Zelut: maybe |
| 21:42.09 | atoponce | (gnome comes with a key agent by default) |
| 21:42.33 | Zelut | atoponce: ok.. I wonder if there is a way to tie it into PAM |
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| 21:45.03 | Zelut | like the way I validate the keyring for the office WPA key based on a valid user login. |
| 21:48.27 | Yorokobi | Zelut: you could have it ask for your password after logging in via Gnome. See the ssh-add man page and search for SSH_ASKPASS |
| 21:58.34 | Zelut | Yorokobi: interesting |
| 22:03.29 | Zelut | man almost time to go home already |
| 22:12.18 | Zelut | jbot: say Zelut |
| 22:12.20 | jbot | Zelut |
| 22:13.02 | Zelut | why isn't my irssi notification working. weird. |
| 22:16.06 | Zelut | jbot: say Zelut |
| 22:16.08 | jbot | Zelut |
| 22:54.40 | herlo | Zelut: mine hasn't worked for a while |
| 23:09.08 | Zelut | looks like its time to go home. |
| 23:09.19 | maquis | hmmm.. |
| 23:11.53 | herlo | Zelut: good for you, too bad I can't |
| 23:18.37 | herlo | If you liked "Dead Like Me", this is good news: http://www.syfyportal.com/news423577.html |
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