| 00:00.26 | Yorokobi | clutchmm, look at /usr/share/doc/vncserver/README.inetd |
| 00:28.55 | herlo | clutchmm: you can do vncserver without inetd, which might be more up your alley |
| 00:29.16 | herlo | http://fedora-tutorials.com/2007/03/14/vnc-seeing-linux-in-linux/ |
| 00:32.01 | clutchmm | herlo: I'll check it out... all I want to do is set this machine up so I can connect to it or my moms machine but they are both on the same network, I just want to specify which one to connect to with vncviewer |
| 00:34.16 | herlo | yeah, you can do that |
| 00:53.54 | tacopaco | herlo: I am using vnc now, but I couldn't find /etc/sysconfig/vncserver to make the changes your howto specified |
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| 02:26.31 | clutchmm | this is annoying, I can't find anything telling me how to setup multiple machines with vino that can all be connected to over the internet from the same machine |
| 02:27.38 | clutchmm | I found out that vino is the default vnc server on feisty setup with remote desktop |
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| 02:28.41 | clutchmm | so now what do I do? |
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| 02:44.44 | stuporglu1 | clutchmm, so you have multiple computers behind a single router, and want to be able to pick which to connect to? |
| 02:48.47 | clutchmm | basicly yes, my moms machine is already set up and I am about to add another to the network, the new box is feisty only so it has vino built in through remote desktop, my moms machine is dual boot with xp and feisty but has a win vnc viewer installed and vino by default in feisty, her machine already uses port 5900 for vnc connection but I can't figure out how to specify a different port or view number for the new machine so I can access 1 or the other |
| 02:50.07 | stuporglu1 | What package did you have to install? I'll take a look at it |
| 02:50.51 | stuporglu1 | Or how did you enable remote desktop |
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| 02:56.03 | stuporglu1 | You may be able to not touch the Ubuntu side, and just set up the port forwarding in their router to send requests for externalip:5900 --> yourmom:5900 and externalip:5901 --> othermachine:5900 |
| 02:56.05 | clutchmm | with the feisty install it is default under System -> Preferences -> Remote desktop |
| 02:57.25 | clutchmm | so on connection I would just have to do vncviewer mo.ms.ip.add:5901? |
| 02:57.55 | clutchmm | and it will be ok to forward to the same ending port? |
| 02:59.10 | stuporglu1 | I believe so |
| 03:00.17 | clutchmm | well now I kind of feel stupid for spending the last several hours reading up on vino trying to find an answer |
| 03:02.36 | stuporglu1 | well, looks like there's a reason that you couldn't find what you're looking for...http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-8742.html |
| 03:02.47 | stuporglu1 | Seems vino is simple and non-configurable :-/ |
| 03:14.44 | stuporglu1 | clutchmm, I filed a bug on that, do you want to add a comment or confirm the issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/112520 |
| 03:15.13 | clutchmm | sure, do I just go there and add comments? |
| 03:15.55 | stuporglu1 | Yeah, you'll need a launchpad account though. Launchpad is the bug tracking system Ubuntu uses. |
| 03:15.57 | clutchmm | sorry for the delay, I was fixing dinner for my daughter |
| 03:16.06 | stuporglu1 | no problem, I understand :-) |
| 03:16.23 | clutchmm | I setup a launchpad account awhile ago |
| 03:16.33 | stuporglu1 | cool |
| 03:17.00 | clutchmm | well, I could if my internet wasn't messed up again |
| 03:18.30 | clutchmm | am I still here? cause firefox is just looking up and sitting there |
| 03:18.35 | stuporglu1 | yeah |
| 03:18.44 | stuporglu1 | I think you're here |
| 03:19.03 | clutchmm | yeah, I can read your posts |
| 03:19.16 | clutchmm | but firefox seems to be toast |
| 03:19.24 | clutchmm | damn internet |
| 03:19.55 | clutchmm | oh looky thar, it's back again |
| 03:31.36 | clutchmm | stuporglu1: do you know is xvnc4viewer can only be run from the terminal? |
| 03:35.49 | clutchmm | well, I'm outta here, night all |
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| 04:05.35 | tacopaco | sweet, now I'm controlling this box from win2k, I think I love VNC, next stop ssh tunneling through VNC |
| 04:07.48 | tacopaco | I wish there was a vncviewer gui on ubuntu like this one on win2k |
| 04:08.29 | tacopaco | anyway, goodnight for real this time, see you guys later |
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| 15:07.03 | herlo | ~seen sontek |
| 15:07.36 | jbot | sontek <n=sontek@unaffilated/sontek> was last seen on IRC in channel #ubuntu-utah, 20h 57m 51s ago, saying: 'http://www.chrishowie.com/2007/05/03/space-fur-aacs-version/'. |
| 15:07.36 | herlo | atoponce: ping |
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| 15:12.14 | atoponce | herlo: pong |
| 15:12.32 | herlo | atoponce: did you ever talk with Bruce Perens? |
| 15:12.47 | atoponce | no. sorry. i'll do that now |
| 15:12.57 | atoponce | i've been busy with releasing introplay |
| 15:13.33 | atoponce | herlo: can you give me the details of his engagement again? |
| 15:13.36 | herlo | atoponce: cool. We're just discussing the details soon with OSTC so I'd like to have a definitive answer from Bruce before committing |
| 15:14.21 | herlo | September 6, 7:30pm, time hasn't changed, just a suggested change of venue |
| 15:14.44 | atoponce | and the venue? Novell campus? |
| 15:15.32 | herlo | yeah, its called the Open Source Technology Center |
| 15:15.39 | herlo | lemme get the link for you |
| 15:16.02 | herlo | http://www.novell.com/offices/opensourcecenter.html |
| 15:16.39 | herlo | Novell sponsors it |
| 15:17.29 | herlo | which is probably going to be the sticky part for Bruce if anything |
| 15:19.22 | Sir_Brizz | hahahahaha |
| 15:19.22 | atoponce | email sent |
| 15:19.22 | Sir_Brizz | everyone was expecting Blizzard to release Starcraft 2 |
| 15:19.27 | Sir_Brizz | and now it looks like it's going to be a Starcraft MMO |
| 15:21.39 | herlo | atoponce: trx |
| 15:21.40 | herlo | tx |
| 15:25.57 | Zelut | morning |
| 15:26.17 | herlo | Zelut: meeting #utos ?? did you forget? |
| 15:26.57 | Zelut | didny wake up |
| 15:27.31 | herlo | Yeah, I had a hard time waking up this morning too, thinking this time isn't working, no one is showing up |
| 15:27.53 | Zelut | logged in to irssi over pssh on my treo now |
| 15:28.05 | herlo | are you at home? |
| 15:28.19 | Zelut | yes |
| 15:28.24 | herlo | sweet |
| 15:28.36 | herlo | Zelut: just trying it out? |
| 15:28.47 | Zelut | yeah.. |
| 15:29.06 | herlo | I love pssh |
| 15:29.13 | Zelut | still cant get mail out but i think im using the wrong port |
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| 15:29.59 | herlo | Zelut: with mutt? |
| 15:30.04 | rennen01 | morning all |
| 15:30.06 | Zelut | cool i can toggle screen sessions too |
| 15:30.26 | herlo | yeah, just a bit of getting used to the keystrokes |
| 15:30.42 | Zelut | herlo: in versa |
| 15:31.12 | herlo | versamail, yeah, I don't like it |
| 15:31.17 | herlo | that's why I bought snapper |
| 15:32.13 | Zelut | let me try mutt over pssh |
| 15:32.15 | Zelut | brb |
| 15:40.27 | Zelut | well itll work but the nav is tricky |
| 15:41.26 | herlo | yeah |
| 15:42.52 | Zelut | what other free apps should i check out? |
| 15:47.48 | Zelut | brb |
| 15:52.42 | rennen01 | atoponce, ping |
| 15:56.40 | Zelut | herlo: what is the irc app you use on the treo? upIRC? |
| 15:57.46 | herlo | yeah, I used that |
| 15:57.54 | herlo | I now use pssh and irssi |
| 16:00.44 | Zelut | remind me what else I should check out. |
| 16:00.58 | Zelut | i like the flight-time app you had.. maybe a game or two? |
| 16:03.50 | Zelut | I'm surprised at how fast the connection speed is too. |
| 16:14.36 | herlo | your uses EVDO, mine doesnt |
| 16:14.59 | herlo | there's a website you should check out...hold on... |
| 16:16.01 | herlo | Zelut: tcpmp |
| 16:16.16 | Zelut | what port do I need for outbound imap over tls? |
| 16:16.27 | herlo | http://mytreo.net/downloads/cat1.html |
| 16:16.55 | herlo | tls uses the same port as imap |
| 16:17.02 | herlo | ssl uses 993 I think |
| 16:18.17 | Zelut | i can get my GL mail in in versa but not back out. |
| 16:19.02 | herlo | well smtp for gl is on 2525 |
| 16:19.11 | herlo | with ssl I believe |
| 16:20.49 | Zelut | yeah, that worked. |
| 16:20.50 | Zelut | thanks |
| 16:22.19 | herlo | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9169291264358100919 |
| 16:22.33 | herlo | check that out, comes out this year sometime apparently |
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| 19:05.15 | brussel_ | How come there are more people using Ubuntu in Utah than there are in California?! |
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| 20:07.02 | Heartsbane | brussel: I think that is a unfair assessment, I would imagine there are more people in Utah talking about using Ubuntu than in California |
| 20:07.39 | Heartsbane | I would imagine there are more people in California using Ubuntu, they are just not talking about it |
| 20:11.26 | nurn_ | man I am having a heard time getting vmware to install on this fiesty machien |
| 20:12.28 | nurn_ | brussel_: well we have a good community here. It is nice to have such an awesome group in utah, that and utah is a very computer savy saturated sate. |
| 20:13.02 | brussel_ | ahhh |
| 20:13.22 | herlo | atoponce: thanx |
| 20:18.17 | Heartsbane | I have a question |
| 20:18.40 | Heartsbane | What exacly is the benefit of pidgin over GAIM |
| 20:18.58 | Heartsbane | Are they abandoning GAIM all together? |
| 20:19.16 | Zelut | just a name change |
| 20:19.25 | Zelut | ..for klegal r |
| 20:19.29 | Zelut | reasons |
| 20:19.40 | Heartsbane | really |
| 20:19.56 | Zelut | (typing on the treo. still getting used to it) |
| 20:20.23 | Zelut | you can thank AOL for the change |
| 20:20.23 | Heartsbane | compiled it last night, since I couldn't find a .deb for it |
| 20:20.37 | Heartsbane | O your kidding right? |
| 20:20.43 | Heartsbane | Please say yes |
| 20:21.53 | Zelut | nope. it was too close to their AIM product |
| 20:21.53 | Heartsbane | k forgive me for breaking the PG rating of #ubuntu-utah but that is gayer than gay porn |
| 20:21.53 | Zelut | ..its all doc'd on the gaim site |
| 20:22.50 | Zelut | gai.net should have it in more detail |
| 20:23.03 | Zelut | *gaim.sf.net |
| 20:23.13 | Heartsbane | Bah I was expecting some new features |
| 20:23.23 | Zelut | little lag on the phone it looks like there |
| 20:24.03 | Zelut | i think they simply finalized the beta and now we have pidgin |
| 20:24.17 | Heartsbane | ya that is what I am running on the lappy |
| 20:26.25 | Zelut | i wonder when the deb will be done for the repos |
| 20:26.25 | Heartsbane | Ya... you kknow your to used to ubuntu when you just go looking for the .deb opposed to compiling it yourself |
| 20:26.26 | Heartsbane | s/your/you_are |
| 20:26.27 | nurn_ | I am still getting use to ap-get |
| 20:26.35 | nurn_ | i was a hugh gentoo user for years |
| 20:27.26 | Heartsbane | Hey if you think that is bad..... I am still getting used to aptitude, I dislike it telling me things |
| 20:27.50 | Zelut | i'll compile if i have to, but yeah I prefer a deb |
| 20:28.01 | Heartsbane | I would prefer to use apt-get and watching for broken dependencies, or compiling myself |
| 20:28.23 | Zelut | aptitude install application. cant get much easier |
| 20:29.07 | Heartsbane | Ya but it still feels like I am being dumb'd down |
| 20:31.05 | Zelut | man ILm still getting used to the idea of being connected via pssh to my machine at home for chat in irssi all from my phone |
| 20:31.58 | Zelut | as you can tell i fat finger it more but otherwise this works great |
| 20:33.30 | herlo | Zelut: you'll get used to that soon... |
| 20:34.54 | Heartsbane | can you screen in and out, is that how you have it setup |
| 20:34.55 | Heartsbane | ? |
| 20:35.07 | Zelut | herlo: any way to tab-complete on these? |
| 20:37.31 | herlo | Zelut: that I know of, no |
| 20:37.57 | herlo | Zelut: have you seen this http://twitter.com/herlo |
| 20:37.58 | herlo | ? |
| 20:38.40 | herlo | it woudl have been nice to have this for work. I would have known that sjansen and I are both going to portland the same week... |
| 20:38.41 | Zelut | herlo: looks like the full keyboard has the tab but that takes half the screen |
| 20:38.58 | herlo | even though I ended up in Seattle and we didn't get to hang out... |
| 20:39.09 | herlo | Zelut: yeah.. I don't use the full keyboard, its a wast |
| 20:39.10 | herlo | e |
| 20:39.21 | Zelut | i prefer no keyboard but then i dont have esc |
| 20:39.24 | herlo | you can use the alt key to show alternates for some of the special chars |
| 20:41.06 | herlo | hit the m key, then hit alt |
| 20:41.11 | herlo | as an example |
| 20:41.44 | herlo | but I've not found an alternate key that has tab |
| 20:47.26 | Sir_Brizz | man, I'm sure glad I don't like in Salt Lake City, what an embarassment |
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| 23:50.48 | Hunding | anyone know why when I boot up my laptop it only comes up to asking me to connect to a host? |
| 23:51.05 | Hunding | push cancel and it just comes back to the same screen |