| 00:03.16 | Zelut | atoponce: no cease and desist.. yet |
| 00:03.44 | atoponce | Zelut: that's good. probably because you aren't saying what it is and what to do with it |
| 00:04.28 | Zelut | .. I could try to see that that page isn't indexed on google. to make it harder for them to find. |
| 00:06.05 | atoponce | probably too late for that |
| 00:07.06 | atoponce | Zelut: if you check my avatar on jabber, i think you'll be amused |
| 00:07.45 | atoponce | heh |
| 00:07.56 | Zelut | I suppose gmail would show your avatar |
| 00:08.01 | atoponce | i'll be posting it to my blog tonight |
| 00:09.19 | Zelut | well your gmail avatar is still your mug |
| 00:09.34 | atoponce | i don't use that anymore, but i can change it. |
| 00:09.35 | atoponce | just a sec |
| 00:12.18 | atoponce | http://aarontoponce.org/magic_image.png |
| 00:12.49 | Utah_Dave | clutchmm: are you running feisty? |
| 00:12.55 | atoponce | i'll give you one guess what it is |
| 00:13.00 | Zelut | atoponce: color reps of the hex? |
| 00:13.54 | atoponce | yup. 3 times, as it doesn't come out even |
| 00:14.23 | Zelut | I saw another site that did that & used the final C0 as "crime 0" |
| 00:14.50 | Zelut | they did it once and then an overlay of C0 |
| 00:15.13 | atoponce | nice |
| 00:15.26 | atoponce | i'm licensing this under the creative commons, just to be a pain |
| 00:16.40 | Zelut | the whole thing is a joke now.. they'll try to revoke keys and they'll be broken again. |
| 00:16.57 | atoponce | yeah. now that the process is streamlined |
| 00:18.07 | Zelut | from what I understand there was no reverse engineering or 'cracking' involved either. |
| 00:20.14 | Zelut | full screen irssi. no gui visible. ...you might be a geek if? :) |
| 00:20.58 | atoponce | heh |
| 00:21.03 | atoponce | i need to add a lot more of those |
| 00:21.43 | atoponce | yeah. he didn't 'crack' anything. just core mem dumps |
| 00:22.26 | clutchmm | Utah_Dave: yes I am |
| 00:22.59 | Utah_Dave | ok, and the machine is connected to the internet, right? |
| 00:23.29 | Zelut | atoponce: ssh -> screen -> irssi, mutt, snownews, bash in full screen... I wonder why I still have gnome installed. |
| 00:23.58 | atoponce | firefox |
| 00:24.00 | Zelut | atoponce: the only thing I use the gui for is video playback and firefox.. because too many sites are not text-only friendly. |
| 00:24.09 | clutchmm | the desktop with the other machines hdd in it is yes and I just got xserver back up |
| 00:24.19 | Zelut | I've actually been doing a good amount of browsing in elinks lately. |
| 00:24.30 | Utah_Dave | ok, just run "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk" |
| 00:24.37 | Utah_Dave | that will install everything you need |
| 00:25.09 | clutchmm | then I need to add the drivers for the card right? |
| 00:25.31 | Utah_Dave | yeah, get the .inf and .sys files and the follow the gui |
| 00:25.56 | Utah_Dave | I have to go now. I'll stay logged in and I'll check back later |
| 00:26.02 | Utah_Dave | good luck, clutchmm |
| 00:26.11 | clutchmm | thanks Utah_Dave |
| 00:26.21 | clutchmm | I'll let you know how it goes |
| 00:28.48 | herlo | they're everywhere |
| 00:29.11 | Zelut | yeah, they are everywhere but I see it as doing my part to break DRM |
| 00:29.29 | herlo | true, but I mean people are blogging about breaking down digg |
| 00:29.36 | herlo | having a digg riot everyday |
| 00:29.41 | herlo | that has nothing to do with DRM |
| 00:29.48 | Zelut | breaking down digg? |
| 00:29.50 | herlo | its just the catalyst... |
| 00:30.18 | herlo | well, yeah, getting digg to put back up a post it took down at first due to sponsor pressure |
| 00:30.40 | herlo | that's the whole reason that digg story had so many diggs |
| 00:31.03 | herlo | people figured out how to circumvent diggs own blocking of the story by creating other stories |
| 00:32.41 | herlo | and so digg finally gave into pressure and spun the story |
| 00:34.47 | Zelut | herlo: feeling better today? |
| 00:35.11 | herlo | Zelut: some, I am actually not tired enough to go to bed yet. Gonna try to setup Kadischi tonight |
| 00:35.26 | herlo | gotta call my son in a bit too... |
| 00:36.14 | herlo | Zelut: better day for you as well? |
| 00:36.36 | Zelut | herlo: ohh yeah. since monday things have been fine. |
| 00:37.06 | Zelut | I've had three students mention they've learned more this week than any other class they've attended. |
| 00:37.08 | herlo | Zelut: glad to hear it. |
| 00:37.10 | Zelut | I guess that's a good sign. |
| 00:37.27 | herlo | Zelut: as long as you plan on sticking around a while, that's the important part... |
| 00:37.47 | Zelut | herlo: where would I go? I just bought a house! :) |
| 00:38.04 | herlo | true, but other jobs do exist... |
| 00:38.24 | herlo | even near where you just bought |
| 00:38.25 | herlo | :) |
| 00:38.27 | herlo | ;) - that's for atoponce |
| 00:38.52 | Zelut | I'm loving it so far. I talk about linux all day.. |
| 00:38.56 | herlo | I can't resist saying that now that he's made his feelings clear on the subject :-D |
| 00:39.34 | herlo | Zelut: I know, ain't it great. And during breaks, you can talk about other stuff you want to share with the students, and talk about Ubuntu, etc. etc, ad nauseum |
| 00:39.42 | Zelut | atoponce: you're going to get teasing for a while on that one. |
| 00:39.47 | herlo | at least to others its nauseum... |
| 00:40.03 | herlo | to me, its just a great OS |
| 00:40.22 | herlo | I think atoponce knows that by now. I think I've teased him like 5 times today. |
| 00:40.26 | Zelut | ohh yeah. I am excited half the day talking about everything in the book :) |
| 00:40.41 | herlo | he retaliated once by telling me I couldn't type... |
| 00:40.51 | herlo | Zelut: yeah, everyone should come work for Guru Labs |
| 00:41.06 | herlo | then we could all talk about linux all the time |
| 00:42.16 | herlo | with everyone |
| 00:42.18 | herlo | !!! |
| 00:42.21 | herlo | :_ w00t! |
| 00:42.35 | Zelut | I'm meeting the atlanta ubuntu team tomorrow and a few students may tag along. |
| 00:42.50 | Zelut | ubuntu recruitment! united states of ubuntu. |
| 00:43.34 | herlo | where are you meeting them? |
| 00:43.50 | Zelut | cheesecake factory near my hotel. |
| 00:45.08 | herlo | Zelut: cool |
| 00:45.45 | herlo | I would have gone to the CINLUG tonight except I am not feeling 100% yet.. still have a crappy runny nose and clogged ears |
| 00:48.03 | herlo | Zelut: I've been watching more Soprano's the boobies keep me interested because some of it I don't get. Why is it that mobsters value life so little? It's like they think that they're the only important people on the planet... |
| 00:48.11 | herlo | Or maybe this is just how I read into it... |
| 00:48.50 | herlo | but I am intrigued enought to continue watching to see what happens to the Soprano family. The whole thing with Junior and Tony keeps me going right now... |
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| 00:49.16 | Zelut | wait until season 5-6 and the crap that goes down with Jr and Tony. |
| 00:49.40 | Zelut | they pretty much are the only ones they care about.. it's about making a buck |
| 00:50.03 | Zelut | think primeval man.. money. sex. drugs... |
| 00:50.43 | herlo | yeah, I guess that's why I am still watching, I can see some of it, but am still trying to figure out what they value... |
| 00:50.51 | herlo | I've only seen 7 or so episodes... |
| 00:50.56 | Zelut | $$. bottom line. |
| 00:51.43 | Zelut | they refer to the guys as 'earners' quite a bit.. or 'you're lucky I still let you earn' |
| 00:51.58 | Zelut | money comes up from the bottom, paying dues to the bosses |
| 00:52.19 | Zelut | if you're a good earner you climb. if you're not you're useless, say the wrong thing and you get whacked. |
| 00:52.28 | Zelut | there is no need for you anymore. |
| 00:52.35 | herlo | I get it, just don't get it |
| 00:53.00 | herlo | Parts of what Tony goes through reminds me of my life, and others I can't relate to. |
| 00:53.03 | herlo | that's all |
| 00:53.09 | Zelut | I suppose it is pretty different.. I've been watching it now for 5+ years so I guess I'm used to it. |
| 00:53.29 | tacopaco | Ok, this is clutchmm on the new system for the new machine. I tried doing "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk" and I get an error that says "ndisgtk not found" I hate getting a bunch of crap and being asked to make it work |
| 00:53.59 | herlo | Zelut: yeah probably |
| 00:54.14 | Zelut | herlo: I swear my mother in law is a reincarnation of Tonys mother. |
| 00:54.28 | Zelut | herlo: the same manipulative type |
| 00:56.03 | herlo | Oh, I love her |
| 00:56.13 | herlo | she's such a bitch but sweet to the kidlings |
| 00:56.50 | Zelut | I'm trying to remember what you've seen and haven't so far.. |
| 00:57.35 | herlo | uh, the last one was about the coach who had sex with the one of the girls who plays soccer |
| 00:57.48 | Zelut | ohh.. ok. |
| 00:58.22 | Utah_Dave | tacopaco: do you have all the repositories enabled? You can do that from Synaptic |
| 00:58.28 | herlo | Tony's mom and Uncle were at the cemetary and she kept yelling at little Anthony to keep away from the mongrels... |
| 00:58.59 | herlo | they might have rabies |
| 00:59.05 | herlo | or rabid or something |
| 00:59.08 | Zelut | she's so doom and gloom |
| 00:59.19 | herlo | yeha, but she sure love's Junior |
| 01:01.22 | tacopaco | yup |
| 01:04.22 | tacopaco | Utah_Dave: I just did a search through synaptic for it and still found nothing |
| 01:05.28 | Utah_Dave | do you have the universe repository enabled? it's there |
| 01:06.25 | tacopaco | yes and it's set to download from US servers |
| 01:07.22 | tacopaco | do I want to enable "source code"? |
| 01:07.52 | Utah_Dave | is this amd64? |
| 01:08.10 | tacopaco | no, i386 |
| 01:09.09 | Utah_Dave | ok, and when you go into the repositories page in preferences in Synaptic, everything is checked except for "Source code" |
| 01:09.47 | Zelut | man I'm getting tired already.. |
| 01:10.24 | Utah_Dave | tacopaco: I did a search in Synaptic for ndisgtk and it found it just fine |
| 01:11.07 | Utah_Dave | I know this is obvious, but did you do an update first? |
| 01:11.10 | Utah_Dave | sudo apt-get update |
| 01:11.13 | tacopaco | yes, is it possible that it wasn't working because I needed to do apt-get update? I'm doing that right now |
| 01:11.20 | tacopaco | :) |
| 01:11.22 | tacopaco | he he |
| 01:11.28 | tacopaco | I type slow |
| 01:12.15 | tacopaco | woot... that did it |
| 01:14.19 | Utah_Dave | tacopaco: yeah, you have to do a sudo apt-get update first before anything else. That way your local apt database knows what's available to install |
| 01:15.59 | herlo | with Utah_Dave you are golden! :) |
| 01:22.02 | tacopaco | sweet, so now what? |
| 01:26.46 | Utah_Dave | tacopaco: OK, now get the windows drivers and unzip it to a folder in your home folder |
| 01:27.29 | Utah_Dave | then run System => Administration => Windows Wireless Drivers |
| 01:27.48 | tacopaco | Utah_Dave: I opened the wireless network drivers window and selected to install the win2k .inf file but nothing changed in the list, and it wouldn't let me install the .sys file |
| 01:28.00 | Zelut | you know I've setup wireless a hundred times and never used that gui :) |
| 01:28.04 | tacopaco | said it wasn't a valid .inf driver file |
| 01:28.33 | Utah_Dave | Zelut: so have I and the gui made it so painless for me this time around |
| 01:28.40 | herlo | tacopaco: use ndiswrapper -m /path/to/your/inffile |
| 01:30.49 | herlo | Zelut: run 'tree' on your machine |
| 01:31.25 | Zelut | herlo: tree is not installed.. what am I doing with tree? |
| 01:31.51 | herlo | Zelut: have you used tree before? |
| 01:32.06 | Zelut | not ringing any bells |
| 01:32.10 | herlo | Zelut: its cool, shows the file tree like pstree does |
| 01:32.19 | herlo | except from the directory you are in or specific |
| 01:32.24 | herlo | specify |
| 01:32.26 | Zelut | ohh, yeah, I think I've used that. |
| 01:32.56 | herlo | I found it while I was building an unsuccessful build of the Fedora7Test4-LiveCD from my box |
| 01:33.09 | Zelut | cool. |
| 01:34.14 | herlo | Zelut: the livecd-creator tool can use a kickstart to build... |
| 01:34.16 | herlo | kind of cool |
| 01:34.20 | tacopaco | herlo: alright I ran it and it seems to have worked(not had an error) the outpu says that '-m' is to write configuration for modprobe so can I install it now with the gui tool or do I need to do something else? |
| 01:34.43 | herlo | tacopaco: it should just wokr now |
| 01:35.05 | tacopaco | isn't there a command I can use to check it? |
| 01:35.10 | herlo | just do 'modprobe yourdrivername' and it'll be loaded |
| 01:35.12 | herlo | lsmod |
| 01:36.23 | tacopaco | yay it says "FATAL: Module WG311v3.inf not found." now what? |
| 01:36.46 | herlo | don't include the .inf |
| 01:36.58 | tacopaco | for modprobe? |
| 01:37.02 | herlo | yes |
| 01:37.28 | tacopaco | FATAL: Module WG311v3 not found. |
| 01:37.43 | Zelut | what command are you using with modprobe? |
| 01:37.54 | herlo | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926 |
| 01:37.58 | herlo | tacopaco: that should help |
| 01:38.02 | tacopaco | modprobe WG311v3 |
| 01:38.12 | Zelut | tacopaco: no, modprobe ndiswrapper is what you want |
| 01:38.43 | tacopaco | just that or include the wg311v3? |
| 01:39.27 | herlo | tacopaco: read the url I gave you, it details what you need to do |
| 01:40.46 | herlo | tacopaco: did you see the url? |
| 01:41.38 | tacopaco | yes |
| 01:42.15 | tacopaco | and just for the record..... I hate my brother for wanting this name >:o |
| 01:42.39 | herlo | what name? |
| 01:42.54 | tacopaco | tacopaco |
| 01:43.24 | tacopaco | didn't you see my first message under this name when I said this was clutchmm? |
| 01:43.37 | herlo | tacopaco: yes |
| 01:43.47 | herlo | but you can change your nick to anything you like |
| 01:43.55 | herlo | just type /nick newnick |
| 01:43.57 | tacopaco | oh yeah |
| 01:44.16 | tacopaco | even if it's registered? |
| 01:44.28 | herlo | yep |
| 01:44.47 | herlo | or you could pick something like clutchmm1 |
| 01:45.26 | clutch | I like clutch more since it has been my nick for 14 years |
| 01:45.44 | herlo | fair enough |
| 01:45.58 | clutch | the 'mm' is just a title |
| 01:48.28 | clutch | ok so in all this output what part tells me if it sees the card? this drive is still in my desktop but my desktop has the same card in it |
| 01:50.23 | clutch | I am seeing stuff for eth0 and eth1 |
| 01:50.57 | clutch | I believe eth1 is my ethernet card since it shows at 100mps |
| 01:51.11 | clutch | err, 100 mbps |
| 01:52.27 | clutch | but then I get this "[ 43.606737] eth1: no IPv6 routers present", what does that mean? |
| 01:52.55 | Zelut | that's fine |
| 01:53.29 | herlo | clutch: all is well |
| 01:53.39 | herlo | bring the network card up |
| 01:53.55 | clutch | ok, but then I tried the scan and got "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 01:53.56 | clutch | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning." |
| 01:55.19 | clutch | oh, and what the hell is this? |
| 01:55.52 | clutch | [ 37.943917] powernow-k8: BIOS error - no PSB or ACPI _PSS objects[ 37.975085] ACPI Exception (acpi_processor-0235): AE_NOT_FOUND, Evaluating _PSS [20060707] |
| 02:00.50 | clutch | for configuring the wlan card for setting the enc key is it "key" or "<key>"? |
| 02:01.06 | herlo | key |
| 02:01.29 | clutch | cool, any idea why the scan didn't work? |
| 02:04.27 | herlo | clutch: unknown |
| 02:04.45 | clutch | crap!! Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; No such device." |
| 02:04.51 | herlo | apparently your windows driver doesn't do wireless or thinks it doesn't |
| 02:05.19 | herlo | clutch: when you run ifconfig -a do you see a wlan0 device? |
| 02:05.22 | clutch | well I got it from the netgear website for this card |
| 02:06.02 | herlo | I understand, that's not what I said |
| 02:06.17 | clutch | no wlan device |
| 02:06.26 | clutch | just eth1 and lo |
| 02:06.31 | herlo | I said that either the driver doesnt' do wireless or linux with ndiswrapper doesn't think it does (or doesn't work with it) |
| 02:06.59 | Zelut | herlo: ordered my treo last nite. w00t |
| 02:07.09 | herlo | eth1? is there a land nic in the puter? |
| 02:07.11 | herlo | Zelut: cool |
| 02:07.17 | herlo | Zelut: 700p with power vision? |
| 02:07.29 | Zelut | herlo: yessir. |
| 02:07.33 | herlo | Zelut: I realized that was the package Dax and Bryan ordered |
| 02:07.43 | herlo | I have the 650p with pcs vision |
| 02:08.48 | clutchmm | herlo: yes, I took the drive out of the box it belongs in and put it into my desktop box to get it online for the installs |
| 02:11.06 | clutchmm | I had to because I didn't have all the dependancy's for the deb file I burned to a disk |
| 02:11.57 | clutchmm | I suppose now that I have ndiswrapper installed I can put the drive back |
| 02:14.03 | clutchmm | herlo: should I try that? |
| 02:16.50 | Zelut | I'm off to bed people. |
| 02:20.16 | clutch | night guys |
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| 02:35.28 | clutchmm | damn good thing I backed up xorg.conf and read Zelut's cli crash course :) now I can reset the xorg.conf to the good configuration for the other monitor. Thanks Zelut :) |
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| 04:04.36 | clutchmm | alright, this is retarded, ndiswrapper is installed just fine, and 'ndiswrapper -l' says the driver is installed and the device (11ab:1faa) is present, but iwconfig says no wireless extensions, and the device manager shows the wireless card as installed and working fine, and all the howtos and installation walkthroughs say it should be working fine, so I'm totally stumped, do I need to install the drivers with the card unplugged? ARRRRGGGGG!!!!!!! KILL |
| 04:14.26 | atoponce | heh |
| 04:14.48 | atoponce | so, apparently, my ultimate firefox extensions list for junkies has hit stumbleupon |
| 04:14.57 | atoponce | now i'm getting like 5000 hits / day |
| 04:19.29 | scottymuse | why is it that when I plug my USB gamepad in on my desktop it works flawlessly... |
| 04:19.44 | scottymuse | but when I plug it into my laptop I have to reboot for it to be recognized? |
| 04:26.16 | scottymuse | wait a minute...it's not recognizing when i plug in my mouse neither! |
| 04:26.44 | scottymuse | must be this feisty upgrade! |
| 04:30.57 | scottymuse | Kernel's not detecting it! |
| 04:32.12 | nurn | try rebooting if you have not allready |
| 04:33.35 | scottymuse | If I reboot with it plugged in it works. But i'd rather not have to reboot. Before the upgrade I never had to. |
| 04:36.06 | nurn | well when you upgrade your kernel a reboot is needed for core/hardware devices to talk to your software properly. |
| 04:40.08 | scottymuse | The feisty upgrade happened about a week ago. It's been rebooted multiple times. |
| 04:40.45 | scottymuse | The upgrade broke something |
| 05:01.40 | clutchmm | hey atoponce or nurn either of you guys there? |
| 05:08.02 | clutchmm | anyone awake that might be able to give me some insight into a strange question? |
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| 12:22.58 | atoponce | shouldn't my /var/log/apache2/access.log file be full, and rotating? |
| 12:23.16 | atoponce | it's empty, and hasn't been touched since 2005 |
| 12:28.03 | Zelut | maybe your log doesn't say point there anymore? |
| 12:28.07 | Zelut | err your .conf |
| 12:29.17 | atoponce | it's never logged, or rotated |
| 12:29.24 | atoponce | maybe it's being logged elsewhere? |
| 12:29.57 | Zelut | where does your apache.conf or vhosts specify to log? |
| 12:32.53 | atoponce | it looks like ispconfig is monitoring http access |
| 12:33.09 | atoponce | in /var/log/httpd/ |
| 12:33.26 | atoponce | ispconfig_access_log |
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| 12:37.39 | atoponce | i have a hotlinker |
| 12:37.43 | atoponce | on my latest post |
| 12:59.44 | atoponce | cool |
| 12:59.49 | atoponce | and a friendly email fixed it |
| 13:00.43 | Zelut | yay |
| 13:05.31 | herlo | atoponce: what is a hotlinker? |
| 13:06.55 | atoponce | herlo: someone who hotlinks |
| 13:13.37 | herlo | atoponce: as in a "<a href=" in their comments? |
| 13:13.41 | Zelut | herlo: linking right to the remote image vs using their own hosted copy |
| 13:13.50 | herlo | It's been years since I've heard anyone use that word |
| 13:14.15 | herlo | Zelut: atoponce: is this a bad practice? and if so, why? |
| 13:14.59 | atoponce | herlo: yes, this is bad practice for one reason: stealing bandwidth with no credit to the author |
| 13:15.20 | herlo | I see |
| 13:15.32 | atoponce | if their site is a high traffic site, and they are using an image hosted on my server on their page, then i take the hit |
| 13:16.16 | atoponce | he did give me due credit, however |
| 13:16.37 | herlo | but to be honest, the only way this is bad is if your site is high traffic, or if they post links on multiple sites... |
| 13:16.39 | atoponce | so, i just sent an email asking him to download it, and upload it to his server, and he did |
| 13:17.26 | herlo | but I can see why that'd be a bad thing overall. I've just never thought of it as a bad thing I guess.. |
| 13:17.29 | atoponce | smaller images, i wouldn't mind, but that one could cripple me |
| 13:18.08 | atoponce | looking at it now, i guess it's not that bit |
| 13:18.08 | atoponce | *big |
| 13:18.13 | atoponce | only 1.5 KB |
| 13:18.52 | atoponce | meh. oh well |
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| 13:21.26 | herlo | but still, its probably appropriate to ask the content holder to copy it first, which is where my concern comes in... |
| 13:22.15 | herlo | so hotlinking and giving credit eliminates his responsibility which was my point... |
| 13:22.33 | herlo | because its like a bibliography in a book if you think about it... |
| 13:22.50 | atoponce | i just didn't want to bear the intensive bandwidth for his post |
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| 13:23.00 | atoponce | even if i did get credit |
| 13:31.40 | herlo | atoponce: was it your image he was hotlinking? |
| 13:32.20 | herlo | if so, then you just gave him permission, which is what I was missing...I thought he was hotlinking from somewhere else to you.. |
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| 14:08.54 | atoponce | herlo: ? |
| 14:09.16 | atoponce | i have given anyone to do with that image whatever they want, as long as i am atributed |
| 14:09.41 | atoponce | i never gave permission to hotlink the image off of my server, though |
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| 14:17.38 | tristanbob_ | what is the app the docks applications like gaim and xchat? |
| 14:17.49 | tristanbob_ | it apparently is not running... or at least not working |
| 14:18.34 | Zelut | tristanbob_: gaim natively docs in the notification tray.. |
| 14:18.44 | herlo | atoponce: but what I didn't get was that he wasn't hotlinking from somebody else on your site, but he was hotlinking from *your* site |
| 14:18.48 | Zelut | atoponce: you're such a hard-ass ;) |
| 14:18.50 | tristanbob_ | I think the notification tray must be dead |
| 14:19.10 | Zelut | tristanbob_: try to killall gnome-panel? |
| 14:19.17 | tristanbob_ | I will now |
| 14:20.10 | tristanbob_ | ok it came back up but no xchat icon :( |
| 14:20.41 | tristanbob_ | maybe I deleted it on accident |
| 14:20.55 | tristanbob_ | I saw two colons :: and I thought it was a seperator like in firefox |
| 14:21.04 | tristanbob_ | and I deleted that |
| 14:21.35 | tristanbob_ | how do I add that back.... |
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| 14:22.57 | tristanbob_ | found it! |
| 14:23.33 | tristanbob_ | Zelut: you were close - it is called the notification "area" |
| 14:26.30 | Zelut | it's called 'that one place where crap shows up' |
| 14:26.54 | Zelut | or where I used to use Alltray to get more docking |
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| 16:03.47 | kemotaha | ping herlo or zelut |
| 16:05.07 | Cerebrizz | don't do it! |
| 16:05.09 | Cerebrizz | I eman |
| 16:05.13 | Cerebrizz | doh |
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| 16:20.12 | Zelut | kemotaha: yes.. |
| 16:20.26 | kemotaha | Quick Question, ( this is for my manager |
| 16:20.54 | kemotaha | Do you guys do signup for people who need to retake the RHCE test or is it all done through RedHat? |
| 16:21.14 | kemotaha | we have 7 people or so who want to take/retake the RHEL5 test |
| 16:23.27 | Zelut | I would say go through RedHat.. unless you're taking the class/test at GL. |
| 16:23.54 | kemotaha | Well they want to take the RHEL5 test around here, that is why I am asking |
| 16:26.18 | herlo | kemotaha: yeah, they have to go through RH or their salesperson |
| 16:26.34 | herlo | kemotaha: they'll do a test onsite if enough people will take it |
| 16:26.34 | kemotaha | ok, thx |
| 16:26.56 | kemotaha | maybe, we tried to get them to do a training on site, but they didn't go for it |
| 16:31.24 | Zelut | two blog posts in one day. w00t. |
| 16:31.44 | kemotaha | nice |
| 16:32.00 | kemotaha | now you have 2 weeks off ;) |
| 16:32.20 | Zelut | my previous goal was 1 post per day. I'm pretty behind. |
| 16:33.13 | Zelut | I think I ran out of that much content though.. unless I really get into some voodoo. |
| 16:33.26 | Zelut | 1 a week or 2 a week will be fine. |
| 16:42.08 | tristanbob_ | me for 1 a week too |
| 16:42.20 | tristanbob_ | and has the same results as herlo |
| 16:57.42 | Zelut | I would like to document router on a stick in ubuntu but I'll need a bit more time. |
| 17:02.59 | Zelut | now that is determination! |
| 17:03.42 | kemotaha | actually I am behind =( |
| 17:03.57 | Zelut | one a year and you can't keep up ehh. |
| 17:04.10 | Zelut | just post everyone's favorite number and you'll be caught up for 2007. |
| 17:04.20 | Zelut | kemotaha: 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 |
| 17:04.31 | kemotaha | nice |
| 17:04.43 | kemotaha | I wonder if I can win the lottery with it? |
| 17:05.02 | Zelut | you could try to get creepy on Lost with it. |
| 17:05.13 | Zelut | lol that'd be hilarious if some show used that for winning numbers :) |
| 17:06.05 | Zelut | which, by the way, Lost is not making any damn sense anymore. |
| 17:06.16 | Utah_Dave | I saw lost for the first time last night. |
| 17:06.58 | Utah_Dave | So are they all dead? It seemed like a pretty cool show, but I didn't get where the plot was going |
| 17:07.43 | Zelut | Utah_Dave: nobody knows where the plot is going |
| 17:08.42 | kemotaha | so in decimal your favorite number is :1.00111111e+1111011 |
| 17:08.55 | kemotaha | interesting |
| 17:09.20 | Cerebrizz | Zelut: not even the writers from the looks of things |
| 17:10.07 | Cerebrizz | Lost was originally only supposed to go two seasons or something |
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| 17:17.42 | clutchmm | hey guys |
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| 17:38.10 | clutchmm | alright this is strange, I think this new machine is cursed. it randomly has the "/bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off" error, and I have to reboot several times in a row to get it to go away, when I shut it down it freezes on the loader splash screen, and for some strange reason it is detecting the wireless card as an ethernet lan card but still says it's wireless on eth1 |
| 17:42.49 | clutchmm | I could really use some help with this, I am trying to get this machine done as a gift for my step-brother because he turned his grades around from near failing to As and 1 F to a B- |
| 17:43.08 | Yorokobi | clutchmm: laptop? |
| 17:43.24 | clutchmm | no, it's a desktop |
| 17:43.42 | Yorokobi | :/ SATA drives or IDE? |
| 17:43.54 | clutchmm | ide 20gig |
| 17:44.23 | clutchmm | and I did the ndiswrapper thing yesterday |
| 17:44.32 | clutchmm | for the wireless |
| 17:45.14 | Yorokobi | I've seen a lot of complaints about the missing TTY error and the consensus is that its a kernel config problem. |
| 17:46.21 | clutchmm | with the '/bin/sh: Can't access tty; Job control turned off' problem I have spent several hours reading message boards for a fix and I seem to be the only one that it happens to randomly |
| 17:47.31 | clutchmm | but I was going to try copying the edgy kernel from my cd and couldn't find the kernel on the cd |
| 17:49.11 | clutchmm | alot of people where pointing to remounting the drive as a fix but then made it sound as if remounting the drive was just to access it from the live cd |
| 17:49.43 | Yorokobi | I haven't seen a permanent fix for that either |
| 17:50.07 | clutchmm | should I just try a reinstall? |
| 17:51.03 | clutchmm | it's the first time I've run into the problem, but it was also the first time I installed feisty from a cd instead of doing the upgrade |
| 17:52.44 | Yorokobi | I had the problem on edgy; I ended up doing a reinstall to feisty |
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| 18:46.11 | VeryHF | Hello All, We have reached the limit of our capability to Administrate our Ubuntu LAMP servers and are looking for someone, initially part-time, to administratrate our co-located and development servers. For more information please contact me: mark@newanomaly.com |
| 18:49.32 | Zelut | VeryHF: I have your email, just not yet been able to reply. |
| 18:49.45 | Zelut | VeryHF: would you like me to send some more information to the list? |
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| 19:09.33 | Zelut | printing in linux has been easy since switching to ubuntu. I had trouble on RH9 though. man. |
| 19:12.55 | sontek | CUPS is the same in all distros :P |
| 19:19.46 | Zelut | but drivers, and 5yrs ago make a difference. |
| 19:22.22 | sontek | yeah, Most of the printers i've owned if there wasn't a ppd available Raw worked |
| 19:22.39 | sontek | but I only use hp's |
| 19:23.33 | undertakingyou | I ended up buying a driver from TurboPrint for my Canon. |
| 19:26.29 | Zelut | I should find a ppd for my brother printer. it works 99% now using a close model, but with a few minor bugs. |
| 19:26.46 | Zelut | brother 2070N network laser printer.. (yeah, I haven't looked very for for it) |
| 19:26.49 | herlo | brother has ppd files? |
| 19:27.29 | herlo | Zelut: it's weird having two conversations with you in two channels at the same time... |
| 19:28.13 | sontek | Thats why IRC is better than being in person! |
| 19:29.11 | herlo | sontek: true that |
| 19:30.41 | sontek | I just read a good quote |
| 19:30.41 | sontek | "Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital." |
| 19:30.42 | sontek | Aaron Levenstein |
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| 19:32.50 | undertakingyou | Sontek: Great quote |
| 19:33.55 | Zelut | herlo: I guessed it might.. but that is just an assumption. |
| 19:34.01 | Zelut | perhaps no .ppd for me |
| 19:36.37 | herlo | then goes back to searching for backgrounds to put on his box |
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| 21:36.02 | Zelut | everyone survive the day so far? I hear it's been some nasty weather back home |
| 21:37.06 | Heartsbane | depends on where home is |
| 21:37.15 | Heartsbane | it was okay drive back to Murray |
| 21:37.40 | Yorokobi | I was in SG yesterday: too hot; in SLC today: too cold. :/ |
| 21:38.06 | Heartsbane | SG? |
| 21:38.10 | Yorokobi | St. George |
| 21:38.15 | Heartsbane | Ah |
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| 21:56.45 | Zelut | atoponce: how has your colorful-crack post been doing? |
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| 23:02.45 | maquis | what kinds of weather in utah? |
| 23:11.25 | Cerebrizz | rain |
| 23:18.28 | maquis | mmm... |
| 23:18.31 | maquis | rain.... |
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| 23:36.47 | maquis | it's just such a great plan, and i can't wait to play with it... |
| 23:37.41 | herlo | I've been enjoying beautiful 70degree weather here in Indy |
| 23:39.59 | maquis | potentially stupid question: i'm wondering if it's possible to dump *just* the db schema using pg_dump (ie, i don't care about the data in the tables... i just want the create commands |
| 23:42.19 | herlo | you can do that with mysql so I am sure pg can do it |
| 23:42.42 | maquis | hmmm |
| 23:42.51 | maquis | i guess i don't really have much data so it doesn't matter that much |
| 23:46.52 | sontek | maquis, --schema-only |
| 23:47.20 | sontek | maquis, you can also use --schema=whatever to get a single schema |
| 23:49.09 | maquis | sontek: cool |
| 23:49.10 | maquis | thx |
| 23:51.34 | maquis | ok. i can work on that on the bus now |
