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| 01:31.29 | herlo | Zelut: ping |
| 01:46.23 | Zelut | herlo: pong (see PM) |
| 03:01.34 | herlo | Zelut: pong along |
| 03:01.36 | herlo | pm |
| 03:41.50 | encryptz | am |
| 03:47.26 | Sir_Brizz | does anyone know if aspct ratio is always w/h? |
| 03:47.39 | Sir_Brizz | or is it Long side/short side |
| 03:48.52 | encryptz | w/h- always |
| 03:49.00 | Sir_Brizz | okay |
| 03:49.07 | Sir_Brizz | so even is I have an image that is 40x50? |
| 03:49.50 | Sir_Brizz | it would be 1:0.8? |
| 03:51.41 | encryptz | you mean 0.8:1 |
| 03:52.43 | Sir_Brizz | ah okay so that "ratio" comes first |
| 03:53.04 | encryptz | well, it would be 1:1.2 actually |
| 03:53.08 | encryptz | i think |
| 03:53.15 | Sir_Brizz | really? o_O |
| 03:53.51 | Sir_Brizz | oh that would make sense |
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| 03:54.01 | Sir_Brizz | for every 1-> you go 1.2 down |
| 03:54.12 | Sir_Brizz | hmm |
| 03:54.19 | Sir_Brizz | I don't know how to make that work |
| 03:54.50 | encryptz | i think that the 1: always comes first |
| 03:55.27 | Sir_Brizz | did you get 1.2? is that legal to add .2 to both sides? |
| 03:55.27 | encryptz | 1:1.6 is the ratio, no? 50/40? |
| 03:55.46 | Sir_Brizz | well that is what I'm wodnering |
| 03:55.53 | Sir_Brizz | 50/40 is h/w |
| 03:56.32 | encryptz | well, that's just getting the ratio to be 1:x |
| 03:56.56 | encryptz | you would "say it" '40 by 50' |
| 04:03.38 | Zelut | Tianon: I'm trying to use this on my wife's iMac but terminal formatting is *all* screwed up. any suggestions? |
| 04:04.18 | Tianon | formatting? |
| 04:04.22 | Tianon | what do you mean? |
| 04:05.03 | Zelut | I'm having difficulty entering text, I can't tab between windows other than option-n/p.. |
| 04:05.18 | Tianon | try Esc+Num |
| 04:05.25 | Zelut | is there a better terminal I should be using to access this via OSX? (suddenly this input just shot half-way up the screen |
| 04:05.30 | atoponce | Zelut: using irssi on the wife's mac? |
| 04:05.32 | Tianon | I ues iTerm :P |
| 04:05.35 | Tianon | **use |
| 04:05.46 | atoponce | noticed that your text is being entered in the middle of the screen? |
| 04:05.56 | Tianon | http://iterm.sourceforge.net |
| 04:06.04 | atoponce | iterm is nice. |
| 04:06.07 | Zelut | it begins on the bottom entry line, but then continues at the top.. really screwed up. |
| 04:06.07 | Tianon | :) |
| 04:06.13 | atoponce | Zelut: it's the nicklist |
| 04:06.14 | Tianon | I love iTerm |
| 04:06.20 | Tianon | ah nicklist |
| 04:06.23 | atoponce | /script unload nicklist |
| 04:06.24 | Tianon | how I love/hate thee |
| 04:06.27 | atoponce | when on mac |
| 04:06.38 | Tianon | I'm using nicklist ;) |
| 04:06.45 | Tianon | and on mac |
| 04:06.46 | Tianon | :D |
| 04:07.03 | atoponce | with what terminal? |
| 04:07.07 | Tianon | iTerm |
| 04:07.13 | Tianon | but it worked in Terminal, too |
| 04:07.15 | atoponce | and you don't have the typing issue? |
| 04:07.30 | atoponce | where sometimes the text goes to the middle of the screen? |
| 04:07.33 | Tianon | I don't know what typing issue you're talking about... |
| 04:07.49 | Tianon | I just attached in Terminal.app, and it's still working fine |
| 04:07.58 | atoponce | it just appears in the physical middle of the screen |
| 04:08.07 | Tianon | o.O |
| 04:08.09 | Sir_Brizz | hmm |
| 04:08.13 | atoponce | hmmm. i have problem with iterm and mac terminal |
| 04:08.14 | Sir_Brizz | encryptz, it has to be 40/50 |
| 04:08.14 | Tianon | never seen that before |
| 04:08.28 | Sir_Brizz | 4:3 is 1:1.33 |
| 04:08.32 | Sir_Brizz | err |
| 04:08.36 | Sir_Brizz | hmm |
| 04:08.39 | Zelut | brb, detaching |
| 04:08.40 | atoponce | Sir_Brizz: what is the 40/50 that we are talking about |
| 04:08.45 | Sir_Brizz | 4:3 ratio is 1.33 |
| 04:08.51 | Sir_Brizz | arg |
| 04:08.58 | Sir_Brizz | I'm having trouble figuring out what the artio is used for |
| 04:09.35 | atoponce | what is it? a terminal or something? |
| 04:09.56 | Zelut | this seems... to have the same trouble so far |
| 04:10.03 | Tianon | =/ |
| 04:10.11 | atoponce | Zelut: nicklist loaded? i'm telling ya, unload it |
| 04:10.35 | Tianon | Personally, I use iTerm because Terminal.app makes dark gray == black |
| 04:10.41 | Tianon | black on black == unreadable ;) |
| 04:10.50 | atoponce | Tianon: yeah. it's a pain |
| 04:11.06 | atoponce | you have to have part transparency in order to see the black text |
| 04:11.10 | Tianon | yah |
| 04:11.10 | Zelut | i can't tell what I'm doing oin this so far.. |
| 04:11.16 | Tianon | and then have a white window behind |
| 04:11.30 | atoponce | Zelut: good idea |
| 04:11.31 | Tianon | lol |
| 04:11.43 | Tianon | I use gnome-terminal on my mac sometimes... |
| 04:11.44 | Zelut | it would nbe nice to get this to work but I don't want to fight it righ tnow |
| 04:11.44 | atoponce | of course, you could install x, then gnome-terminal on the mac |
| 04:11.45 | Tianon | works great |
| 04:12.06 | Tianon | well, except for the fact that even after you hide the menubar, alt+e brings up the edit menu |
| 04:12.12 | Tianon | lol |
| 04:12.21 | Tianon | doesn't do that in my ubuntu install |
| 04:12.24 | Tianon | but oh well |
| 04:14.39 | Sir_Brizz | atoponce, something I'm trying to do in javascript |
| 04:14.50 | Sir_Brizz | I'm trying to figure out how to resize an image keeping it's aspect ratio |
| 04:14.56 | atoponce | i see |
| 04:15.19 | atoponce | then in that case, you just need the percentage ratio between the two, then maintain that |
| 04:15.26 | Sir_Brizz | how? |
| 04:15.37 | Sir_Brizz | so I see that the ratio between 40/50 is 80% |
| 04:15.41 | Sir_Brizz | or .80 |
| 04:15.45 | atoponce | so, it doesn't matter if it's 40/50 or 50/40, just keep the result the same |
| 04:15.46 | Sir_Brizz | what does that mean? |
| 04:16.00 | atoponce | that means that 20/25 is the same ratio |
| 04:16.06 | atoponce | and 80/100 |
| 04:16.19 | Sir_Brizz | so in this case the width is always 80% of the height |
| 04:16.32 | Tianon | yup |
| 04:16.33 | atoponce | correct |
| 04:16.40 | Sir_Brizz | so here's the question |
| 04:16.49 | Tianon | if the height wants to be 234, the width would be 234*.8 |
| 04:16.52 | Sir_Brizz | would it make more sense to resize by the longest side and then adjust the shorter side? |
| 04:17.14 | atoponce | either or. it's just math. :) |
| 04:17.38 | Zelut | that's more like it |
| 04:17.43 | atoponce | Zelut: :) |
| 04:17.49 | Sir_Brizz | well in this case if I was resizing the width and then adjusting the height, what would I do? |
| 04:17.51 | Tianon | lol |
| 04:18.03 | atoponce | although, konsole is the best app for drawing text and colors |
| 04:18.12 | Sir_Brizz | divide it by .8 instead of multiply? |
| 04:18.37 | atoponce | if height is defined, then width = height * .8 |
| 04:18.57 | atoponce | if width is defined, then height = width * 1.6666666666666.... |
| 04:19.14 | atoponce | er |
| 04:19.15 | atoponce | no |
| 04:19.38 | atoponce | height = width * 1.25 |
| 04:19.47 | atoponce | width = height * .8 |
| 04:20.01 | Sir_Brizz | how do you get 1.25? |
| 04:20.13 | Tianon | just divide by .8 instead of multiply |
| 04:20.14 | Tianon | lol |
| 04:20.20 | Sir_Brizz | would that work? |
| 04:20.38 | Tianon | yup |
| 04:20.41 | Sir_Brizz | yep |
| 04:20.47 | Sir_Brizz | cool... that would work I spose |
| 04:21.09 | Sir_Brizz | so I still need to check |
| 04:21.26 | Sir_Brizz | because if the ratio is >1 I need to multiply and if it's <1 I need to divide... |
| 04:21.35 | atoponce | 50/40 = 1.25 |
| 04:21.42 | atoponce | 40/50 = ,8 |
| 04:22.11 | Sir_Brizz | hmm |
| 04:22.19 | Sir_Brizz | I keep losing track of what I'm thinking |
| 04:22.40 | Sir_Brizz | I would prefer to always be adjusting the height to the width |
| 04:22.49 | Sir_Brizz | but either way I have to check the ratio both ways, right? |
| 04:22.54 | Sir_Brizz | oh no I don't |
| 04:23.00 | atoponce | no. you don't |
| 04:23.04 | Sir_Brizz | I just need to check if w/h is >1 or <1 |
| 04:23.09 | atoponce | define one, work the other |
| 04:23.12 | Tianon | nonono |
| 04:23.48 | Sir_Brizz | ? |
| 04:24.05 | Tianon | you do $rat = $w/$h; $w = number; $h = $w / $rat; |
| 04:24.09 | Tianon | right, atoponce ? |
| 04:24.19 | atoponce | Sir_Brizz: have code to pastebin? |
| 04:24.32 | atoponce | Tianon: trying to figure out what he's trying to do |
| 04:24.35 | Sir_Brizz | not really :-/ |
| 04:24.43 | atoponce | pastebin.ca |
| 04:25.18 | Sir_Brizz | I am using a library. What it does is you pass a function a "modifier" in this case "width" and then you can capture the event to a callback, onDrag |
| 04:25.37 | Sir_Brizz | so that you can adjust the height |
| 04:26.03 | atoponce | so, you're passing width as an arugment in a function? |
| 04:26.09 | Zelut | synic: ping |
| 04:26.10 | Sir_Brizz | yah, essentially |
| 04:26.19 | atoponce | and you want to adjust the height, based on that argument |
| 04:26.31 | Sir_Brizz | based on whatever this.element.style.width is |
| 04:26.39 | atoponce | and you know that in one case, the width is 40 and the height is 50? |
| 04:26.48 | Sir_Brizz | yah those are the starting values |
| 04:26.56 | Tianon | always? |
| 04:27.02 | Sir_Brizz | well in this case |
| 04:27.03 | atoponce | then height *always* = width * 1.25 |
| 04:27.12 | Sir_Brizz | no |
| 04:27.21 | Sir_Brizz | those are the starting values *in one case* |
| 04:27.22 | atoponce | no? why not? |
| 04:27.23 | Sir_Brizz | sorry |
| 04:27.38 | atoponce | ok. but you need to maintain the ratio, right? |
| 04:27.39 | Tianon | height *always* = width * (origheight/origwidth); |
| 04:27.55 | Sir_Brizz | in another case, for example, it is 337x248 |
| 04:28.07 | Sir_Brizz | I always need to maintain the starting ratio |
| 04:28.18 | atoponce | ahh. i se |
| 04:28.22 | atoponce | *see |
| 04:28.26 | atoponce | then Tianon is right |
| 04:28.28 | Tianon | :D |
| 04:28.46 | atoponce | height = width * (orighHeight / origWidth) |
| 04:28.51 | Tianon | you can even store origheight/origwidth into some variable to speed things up a bit |
| 04:29.05 | Tianon | and I'm out |
| 04:29.08 | Tianon | later guys |
| 04:29.14 | atoponce | Tianon: actually, that'll slow it down, and you're using more ram than needed |
| 04:29.20 | Tianon | oh? |
| 04:29.21 | Tianon | o.O |
| 04:29.25 | atoponce | do it on the fly |
| 04:29.40 | atoponce | of course, in this case, we're talking nanosecs, but it would still be faster |
| 04:30.16 | Tianon | I'm talking about save it before the routine is ever run |
| 04:30.16 | Tianon | so that the division only occurs once |
| 04:30.16 | Tianon | ever |
| 04:30.21 | atoponce | hmmm. i guess it would depend on the algo |
| 04:30.33 | Tianon | yes it would :P |
| 04:30.38 | Tianon | but I'm really gone now |
| 04:30.38 | Tianon | :P |
| 04:30.40 | atoponce | usually, when scripting, i tend to do as much in one statement as possible to increase speed |
| 04:30.45 | atoponce | Tianon: ttyl |
| 04:31.29 | Sir_Brizz | so it will always be that way? |
| 04:31.39 | atoponce | what. the ratio, or the speed |
| 04:31.42 | atoponce | ? |
| 04:31.44 | Sir_Brizz | the ratio |
| 04:31.48 | atoponce | yes |
| 04:32.02 | Sir_Brizz | even if it is wider than it is tall? |
| 04:32.14 | atoponce | (origHeight / origWidth) = certain ratio, regardless of values |
| 04:32.19 | atoponce | Sir_Brizz: yes |
| 04:32.46 | Sir_Brizz | interesting |
| 04:33.19 | atoponce | if width is larger than tall, then the ratio < 1. if height is larger than tall, then ratio > 1. if height = width, then ratio = 1 |
| 04:33.45 | atoponce | in any case, you have a ratio, and you're always maintaining it |
| 04:34.04 | atoponce | you just need to pass one (height or width) as the argument, and manipulate the other |
| 04:34.07 | atoponce | it's that easy |
| 04:34.38 | Sir_Brizz | it's always based on the original values, though, right? |
| 04:35.19 | atoponce | think about it. let's suppose you have an image that is 400x320 and another image 400x500 |
| 04:35.42 | atoponce | if width is the argument passed, then 400 is your static number |
| 04:35.43 | atoponce | so: |
| 04:36.28 | atoponce | 400/320 = 1,25 |
| 04:36.33 | atoponce | thus: |
| 04:36.42 | atoponce | if your width = 1654 |
| 04:37.21 | atoponce | 1654 * (400/325) = 2067,5 |
| 04:37.27 | atoponce | that's your height |
| 04:37.52 | atoponce | 2067.5 / 1654 = 1,25 |
| 04:38.01 | atoponce | you maintained your ratio |
| 04:38.07 | atoponce | look at the second image: |
| 04:38.16 | atoponce | if 677 is the known width |
| 04:38.49 | atoponce | 677 * (400/500) = 541.6 |
| 04:39.19 | Sir_Brizz | okay I get it now |
| 04:39.23 | atoponce | 541.6 / 677 = .8 = 400/500 |
| 04:39.33 | atoponce | cool |
| 04:40.34 | atoponce | s/known width/known heigth/ |
| 04:40.39 | Zelut | atoponce: how can I define my exit message in irc/irssi? |
| 04:41.14 | atoponce | /set part_message <message text> |
| 04:41.18 | atoponce | /set quit_message <message text> |
| 04:41.36 | Zelut | what's the difference in part & quit? |
| 04:41.48 | atoponce | part for leaving the channel, quit for leaving the network |
| 04:41.55 | atoponce | to the channel, it's transparent |
| 04:42.13 | atoponce | so i set the to both the same |
| 04:42.24 | atoponce | http://www.dvzine.org | Saving the world one keyboard at a time. |
| 04:42.33 | atoponce | :) |
| 04:46.54 | Sir_Brizz | hah that worked great, thanks atoponce |
| 04:47.37 | atoponce | Sir_Brizz: np. |
| 04:49.41 | *** topic/#ubuntu-utah by Zelut -> Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | NEW FORUM ADDRESS: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | Next meeting: pending | |
| 04:50.43 | Zelut | thanks to MikeB for getting that for us. |
| 04:51.33 | atoponce | Zelut: cool |
| 05:17.20 | Sir_Brizz | man |
| 05:17.24 | Sir_Brizz | Herd 2 had so many bugs |
| 05:17.25 | Sir_Brizz | ;) |
| 05:25.57 | Zelut | yeah. feisty is broken for me right now |
| 05:26.52 | Sir_Brizz | really? |
| 05:26.57 | Sir_Brizz | mine isn't broken |
| 05:27.25 | Sir_Brizz | but 1) Adept is screwed up, 2) the update packages are always goofy, so I have to reinstall several things after updating |
| 05:27.27 | Sir_Brizz | or hold back |
| 05:27.28 | Zelut | I've got some dependency problems and can't get gnome to load after login at gdm |
| 05:28.04 | Sir_Brizz | yuck |
| 05:28.36 | Zelut | manually installing / verifying ubuntu-desktop causes conflicts & ends up removing a list of things.. its fairly h0rked |
| 05:28.47 | Sir_Brizz | lol |
| 05:29.04 | Sir_Brizz | I went to update the other day and it wanted to uninstall python along with everything else on my machine |
| 05:29.10 | Sir_Brizz | I was like "I think I'll wait..." |
| 05:29.43 | Zelut | lol |
| 05:30.11 | Sir_Brizz | hehehe |
| 05:34.58 | maquis | Sir_Brizz: don't uninstall python!!!! |
| 05:35.06 | Sir_Brizz | lol don't worry |
| 05:35.08 | Sir_Brizz | I won't |
| 05:35.19 | Sir_Brizz | python is a required package for like 99% of the applications in KDE |
| 05:35.28 | Sir_Brizz | including kubuntu-desktop lol |
| 05:35.53 | Sir_Brizz | haha lol |
| 05:35.59 | maquis | portage kinda sorta depends on python |
| 05:36.18 | maquis | so... i kinda sorta made the entire package-management system unusable until i managed to manually re-install python |
| 05:40.28 | Sir_Brizz | lol |
| 05:40.35 | Sir_Brizz | that sounds like a great adventure |
| 05:44.40 | Zelut | i think its time for me to get to bed. |
| 05:44.54 | Sir_Brizz | me too... as much as I'd ike to stay up and keep working on this project... |
| 05:45.07 | maquis | Sir_Brizz: trust me... when you are at a certain skill level, and a certain craziness level, you can have all types of adventures |
| 05:45.15 | Sir_Brizz | lol |
| 06:06.20 | Sir_Brizz | nn |
| 15:32.48 | Zelut | morning |
| 15:33.07 | redbeard1 | morning |
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| 16:30.20 | [phoenyx] | how was the meeting on Saturday? |
| 16:31.05 | encryptz | it was good |
| 16:31.27 | encryptz | a little long, i think (i was presenting), but other than that, good |
| 16:32.05 | [phoenyx] | encryptz: what did you present on? |
| 16:33.09 | encryptz | team goals, setting up a team constitution, and the US Teams project |
| 16:33.35 | Zelut | encryptz: I think it went well. |
| 16:34.16 | Zelut | he's got that split personality going on |
| 16:35.15 | Zelut | forecastfox is telling me is -4 here! brr |
| 16:36.31 | encryptz | 5 right now in ogden |
| 16:37.06 | encryptz | [phoenyx]: yeah. encryptz on weechat and atoponce on irssi |
| 16:39.19 | Zelut | encryptz: weechat? |
| 16:40.16 | encryptz | Zelut: yeah. i've run it before. it has some oddities that i don't like, but some features i do |
| 16:40.43 | Zelut | encryptz: still looking for a solution beyond bitlbee.. again? :) |
| 16:40.55 | encryptz | like, it has a built-in nicklist (nice), but the window activity numbers are shown out of order (not nice) |
| 16:41.19 | encryptz | Zelut: no. weechat is a text-based irc client. actually, i'm running bitlbee in weechat atm |
| 16:41.37 | Zelut | ahh |
| 16:42.06 | encryptz | it's got some things i like, but like i said, there are things about it that i don't |
| 16:42.43 | encryptz | irssi > weechat, imho, but it's worth playing around with |
| 16:43.35 | encryptz | right now, i'm preoccupied with finding a decent irssi theme. madcow has grown old |
| 16:44.07 | Zelut | I've got sfcblu and fear2 installed.. fear2 is decent |
| 16:47.07 | atoponce | hmmm |
| 16:47.08 | atoponce | dark |
| 16:47.44 | [phoenyx] | so did you reuse unum's constitution? |
| 16:48.13 | encryptz | [phoenyx]: for the ubuntu-utah meet? no, we just brainstormed about what to put in it |
| 16:48.39 | encryptz | Zelut: what's the link to the page? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution? |
| 16:50.21 | atoponce | ooh. i like elho |
| 16:58.04 | atoponce | ooh. xchat is nice too |
| 17:00.36 | Zelut | encryptz: yes. it still needs a lot of work and feedback |
| 17:03.51 | *** topic/#ubuntu-utah by atoponce -> Ubuntu Utah LoCo Team | http://ubuntu-utah.org | NEW FORUM ADDRESS: http://ubuntu-utah.ubuntuforums.org | Next meeting: pending | Help with the constitution: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtahTeam/Constitution |
| 17:05.17 | [phoenyx] | encryptz/atoponce: I have a few suggestions that come from working with the fslc. First of all, have a clear line between membership and non-membership. Secondly, have a clear policy on what happens when leadership changes or is no longer fulfilling their duty. |
| 17:06.01 | encryptz | [phoenyx]: yeah. we're working some of those things out |
| 17:06.44 | encryptz | fslc has a good constitution, and we'll probably use that for a lot of our inspiration |
| 17:08.53 | [phoenyx] | yeah, it's pretty good. The problem is that it was never approved and isn't followed. |
| 17:11.29 | [phoenyx] | and most of the members don't even know about it |
| 17:15.26 | encryptz | yeah. kyle has been telling me about it |
| 17:15.37 | [phoenyx] | lol |
| 17:15.54 | [phoenyx] | for a second I was thinking "who's kyle?!" |
| 17:16.08 | encryptz | kyle/unum same diff |
| 17:16.10 | [phoenyx] | I forget what his name really is |
| 17:16.34 | [phoenyx] | he should have his name legally changed to 'unum' |
| 17:23.43 | maquis | :) |
| 17:28.55 | Zelut | I think we'll make it a point for our constitution to be signed/approved by all current members before its official. |
| 17:29.44 | Zelut | encryptz: maybe a gpg constitution signing session? :) |
| 17:49.40 | encryptz | Zelut: so everyone has to sign it before we set it in stone? |
| 17:50.10 | encryptz | what if someone disagrees? do the ones who have already signed, have to resign? |
| 17:51.07 | Zelut | well if we could get an overall agreement on the constitution items before anything is finalized.. |
| 17:51.10 | encryptz | i guess it would be a different document, so it would make sense |
| 17:51.19 | encryptz | yeah |
| 17:53.33 | maquis | encryptz: re-sign or resign? |
| 17:53.56 | maquis | it would kinda stick if zelut had to resign simply because someone disagreed with some part of the constitution |
| 17:54.30 | encryptz | maquis: :) |
| 17:54.34 | encryptz | re-sign |
| 17:54.38 | maquis | :) |
| 17:54.50 | maquis | s/stick/stink |
| 17:55.42 | maquis | ~dict urdu |
| 17:55.58 | maquis | interesting |
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| 18:08.21 | Zelut | synic: ping |
| 18:09.26 | synic | Zelut: yo |
| 18:10.41 | Zelut | synic: did you figure out what that bug was? I got the bug notice that it should be fixed in cvs. |
| 18:11.02 | synic | possibly |
| 18:12.24 | synic | I wouldn't try svn just yet... it's still pretty broken in other areas |
| 18:12.33 | Zelut | i'm curious what the problem has been |
| 18:13.20 | synic | lots of tracks were being put into sqlite without committing (this improved speed). After too many tracks, the sqlite commit queue seems to get full and will not accept anything else. This is what caused the "database is locked" error |
| 18:14.06 | synic | so... it commits every 1500 tracks |
| 18:34.49 | Zelut | hmm. we'll I will most likely wait for the next release, but I hope it helped. |
| 18:36.00 | synic | thanks :) |
| 18:36.17 | Zelut | hope it wasn't too much trouble :) |
| 18:51.07 | Zelut | atoponce: ping |
| 19:16.35 | Zelut | findlay is nuts |
| 19:21.32 | encryptz | Zelut: 'sup |
| 19:22.02 | Zelut | you keep disappearing on me :) now I forget what my question was.. |
| 19:23.00 | encryptz | sorry. trying to stay coherent |
| 19:23.45 | Zelut | might have been back to the constitution.. concerning the signing & agreement. |
| 19:25.02 | encryptz | 纷乱人世间，除了你，一切繁华都是背景。 |
| 19:25.24 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah thenetduck (n=duck@c-67-186-218-157.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:25.36 | Zelut | now that's just jibberish |
| 19:25.42 | thenetduck | question of the day, should thenetduck move out |
| 19:25.51 | thenetduck | again... |
| 19:26.03 | encryptz | Zelut: nay, but a deep thought |
| 19:26.15 | encryptz | Chaotic human world, except for you, all are busy background. |
| 19:26.48 | encryptz | thenetduck: yup. of course |
| 19:27.18 | thenetduck | encryptz: err.. my option is stay in my parents basement or move to arizona and start a painting business with my brother |
| 19:27.32 | thenetduck | I guess that does sound kind of pathedic |
| 19:28.27 | encryptz | living in you parent's basement? yeah. but moving to arizona almost sounds worse |
| 19:28.30 | encryptz | *but* |
| 19:28.54 | encryptz | if you move to arizona, then you need to hook up with scott barber, and get the arizona loco team rolling |
| 19:29.12 | thenetduck | ya two more members for the Azizona team |
| 19:29.33 | thenetduck | Where does scott live? |
| 19:29.52 | thenetduck | (funny how being close to an active team was accually a consern) |
| 19:30.25 | encryptz | not sure, actually |
| 19:30.30 | encryptz | phoenix, i think |
| 19:30.39 | encryptz | but i could be wrong |
| 19:35.49 | thenetduck | man I just woke up. I feel like a sloth |
| 19:36.14 | thenetduck | ok I have a video card question for anyone that is using beryl |
| 19:36.45 | thenetduck | does anyone get an error that says, libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b |
| 19:36.54 | thenetduck | when starting up beryl-manager |
| 19:37.32 | thenetduck | this accually effect perfomance because viewing videos and scrolling on web pages is choppy |
| 19:39.31 | [phoenyx] | I get that message, but haven't noticed any performance problems |
| 19:39.41 | Tianon | I use it almost daily. Makes x11 bearable. |
| 19:39.57 | Tianon | never seen that, though |
| 19:40.24 | Tianon | I even sit in #ubuntu-xgl, and haven't heard mention of that |
| 19:40.33 | thenetduck | hum. |
| 19:40.55 | Tianon | did you try googling the error? |
| 19:40.57 | thenetduck | [phoenyx]: have you tried playing a video? and what is your graphics card? also what divers are you using |
| 19:41.13 | thenetduck | Tianon: not extensivly.. ill try that |
| 19:41.18 | Tianon | :P |
| 19:41.38 | Zelut | living close to a team *should* be a concern |
| 19:41.53 | thenetduck | yes, I know what team-us theme song should be |
| 19:42.03 | thenetduck | livin in the USA by steven miller band |
| 19:42.47 | Zelut | doesn't bruce springsteen do a tune like that? |
| 19:43.10 | thenetduck | Zelut: he might do a knock off. |
| 19:43.59 | thenetduck | man someone should really port Amorok to work with gnome like it does with KDE |
| 19:45.15 | Zelut | thenetduck: try Banshee. its supposed to support iPod and is gnome/GTK |
| 19:45.53 | Zelut | http://banshee-project.org/Main_Page |
| 19:46.42 | [phoenyx] | yes, videos are fine/ intel integrated |
| 19:46.42 | Zelut | i really like it |
| 19:46.56 | thenetduck | err.. but it doesn't work with foxy tunes plugin for my Firefox plugin |
| 19:47.08 | Zelut | of course, when synic is in the room I *mostly* like Exaile ;) |
| 19:47.20 | Zelut | foxytunes. pfft. |
| 19:47.27 | synic | :P |
| 19:47.48 | Zelut | gotta support the local effort, right? :) |
| 19:48.06 | thenetduck | right.. |
| 19:48.20 | thenetduck | Exaile is still not the same as Amorok.. |
| 19:48.47 | thenetduck | well I can't complain too much i haven't had any problems with Amorok yet. |
| 19:49.03 | Zelut | so what's the problem? |
| 19:49.32 | thenetduck | hum.. good question. I guess it doesn't do things like auto detect an ipod the first time. |
| 19:49.38 | thenetduck | something that I fixed |
| 19:49.41 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah stuporglue (n=stuporgl@tmpserver-48-243.et.byu.edu) |
| 19:49.50 | Zelut | stuporglue: ping |
| 19:49.55 | stuporglue | Zelut: pong |
| 19:50.08 | tristanbob | I LOVE seeing the stats on my blgo |
| 19:50.10 | tristanbob | blog |
| 19:50.30 | tristanbob | some russion Linux news site just linked to my post about backups |
| 19:50.36 | Zelut | stuporglue: I have held off forwarding that news. I'm wondering if you knew how many students/machines are expected to be using Ubuntu. |
| 19:50.37 | tristanbob | spiked my views |
| 19:51.27 | tristanbob | and seeing what google searches they come from is cool too |
| 19:51.49 | thenetduck | stuporglue: are you at byu? |
| 19:52.17 | stuporglue | Zelut: I thought I mentioned it. There are 36 students in the class this semester, assuming it takes off, they'll be used throughout the major in a bunch of classes that need the students to have admin rights on the computers |
| 19:52.24 | stuporglue | thenetduck: yes I am at BYU |
| 19:52.52 | thenetduck | update on my graphics card, it looks as if I want beryl. I will accually have to just us xgl/compiz with the open source drivers. |
| 19:53.17 | stuporglue | Zelut: Sorry, that was poorly worded. There are 36 students in the class. Assuming the project takes off, the drives will be used in a bunch of classes throughout the major. |
| 19:53.43 | Zelut | cool. I'll forward it on. |
| 19:53.49 | stuporglue | thanks |
| 19:54.32 | stuporglue | thenetduck: Did you find a good Beryl/Compiz tutorial that's reasonably up to date? Everything I saw was pretty old, and I couldn't tell which ones were accurate with current sources. |
| 19:54.36 | atoponce | ~seen mako |
| 19:55.07 | jbot | i haven't seen 'mako', atoponce |
| 19:55.54 | thenetduck | stuporglue: ya I found one, one sec ill post |
| 19:56.14 | thenetduck | stuporglue: this one is traight off their website |
| 19:56.20 | thenetduck | stuporglue: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL |
| 20:00.03 | Zelut | stuporglue: would you mind if I included your email address in the letter to the locos if people wanted to contact you for more info? |
| 20:01.58 | stuporglue | Sure, no problem |
| 20:05.19 | Zelut | stuporglue: sent & you're on BCC. I hope I got my facts straight. |
| 20:06.45 | stuporglue | Zelut: Thanks |
| 20:20.02 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah meistercobbman (n=meisterc@c-67-186-218-157.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 20:20.03 | Zelut | ~lart meistercobbman |
| 20:20.18 | meistercobbman | a pirate troll, argh matey! |
| 20:20.40 | Zelut | argh! |
| 20:27.40 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah stuporglue (n=stuporgl@tmpserver-48-243.et.byu.edu) |
| 20:28.17 | stuporglue | thenetduck: That tutorial worked pretty well. If I had a better card, I think it'd work better. :-) |
| 20:30.52 | encryptz | ~ignore maquis |
| 20:30.53 | jbot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, maquis!" |
| 20:31.41 | Tianon | haha |
| 20:31.59 | Zelut | ~ignore maquis |
| 20:32.03 | jbot | ACTION sticks her fingers in her ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, maquis!" |
| 20:32.15 | Zelut | jbot is a girl? |
| 20:32.48 | Tianon | with an ambiguous name like "jbot", you'd almost expect it to say "it" |
| 20:33.59 | maquis | jbot: tell Tianon about gender |
| 20:34.05 | maquis | jbot: tell Zelut about gender |
| 20:34.18 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 20:34.22 | Tianon | :) |
| 20:34.27 | Zelut | smarty pants |
| 20:34.37 | maquis | jbot: gender |
| 20:34.39 | jbot | I'm lesbian |
| 20:34.50 | Tianon | xD |
| 20:34.54 | Zelut | uhh |
| 20:37.03 | maquis | Zelut: you think that's bad... keep asking :) |
| 20:37.18 | maquis | ~gender Zelut |
| 20:37.19 | jbot | I heard Zelut is male. |
| 20:37.27 | maquis | ~gender Tianon |
| 20:37.28 | jbot | I heard Tianon is hermaphroditic. |
| 20:37.39 | Tianon | :o |
| 20:38.00 | encryptz | now it's getting weird |
| 20:38.05 | Tianon | jbot: I'm a guy, man. |
| 20:38.07 | [phoenyx] | ~gender [phoenyx] |
| 20:38.08 | jbot | I heard [phoenyx] is female. |
| 20:38.16 | [phoenyx] | lol |
| 20:38.21 | Tianon | jbot: Tianon is a guy. |
| 20:38.23 | jbot | ...but tianon is already something else... |
| 20:38.25 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 20:38.29 | Tianon | ~tianon |
| 20:38.30 | jbot | [tianon] where you go when you need a quick and dirty solution to an ugly problem, to fix it for someone better to solve the real problem. |
| 20:38.30 | Tianon | :) |
| 20:38.58 | Zelut | nice |
| 20:39.01 | Zelut | ~Zelut |
| 20:39.02 | jbot | it has been said that zelut is the president and grand-poobah of Ubuntu Utah, an Ubuntu Grand Master. He blogs at http://ubuntu-tutorials.com and has a smokin' hot wife, HoneyShiv. |
| 20:39.08 | Tianon | :D |
| 20:39.22 | [phoenyx] | ~[phoenyx] |
| 20:39.28 | Tianon | ~atoponce |
| 20:39.29 | jbot | i guess atoponce is the coolest Ubuntu user in Utah! |
| 20:39.42 | atoponce | haha |
| 20:39.49 | Tianon | [phoenyx]: gotta tell it who you are... jbot: [phoenyx] is ... |
| 20:41.11 | encryptz | ~gender atoponce |
| 20:41.12 | jbot | I heard atoponce is hermaphroditic. |
| 20:41.29 | encryptz | ~gender atoponce |
| 20:41.31 | jbot | I heard atoponce is not sure. |
| 20:41.50 | encryptz | ~gender atoponce |
| 20:41.52 | jbot | I heard atoponce is female. |
| 20:41.56 | encryptz | heh |
| 20:42.01 | encryptz | heh |
| 20:42.03 | encryptz | ~gender atoponce |
| 20:42.04 | jbot | I heard atoponce is gay. |
| 20:42.14 | encryptz | stupid jbot |
| 20:42.16 | encryptz | ~gender atoponce |
| 20:42.17 | jbot | I heard atoponce is not sure. |
| 20:42.59 | encryptz | ~encryptz |
| 20:43.12 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah stuporglue (n=stuporgl@tmpserver-48-243.et.byu.edu) |
| 20:43.14 | Tianon | :o |
| 20:43.21 | encryptz | jbot: yeah. nothing to say there, do you smarty pants! |
| 20:43.31 | Tianon | jbot: encryptz is atoponce! (aka, the coolest Ubuntu user in Utah!) |
| 20:43.33 | jbot | Tianon: okay |
| 20:43.38 | Tianon | ~encryptz |
| 20:43.39 | jbot | it has been said that encryptz is atoponce! (aka, the coolest Ubuntu user in Utah!) |
| 20:43.41 | Tianon | :) |
| 20:43.54 | encryptz | jbot: encryptz suffers from identity crisis |
| 20:44.03 | encryptz | jbot: encryptz is suffers from identity crisis |
| 20:44.04 | jbot | ...but encryptz is already something else... |
| 20:44.13 | encryptz | jbot: don't get smart with mi |
| 20:44.15 | Tianon | muahahaha |
| 20:44.22 | Tianon | prefix it with no, |
| 20:44.33 | Tianon | aka, jbot: no, encryptz is cool |
| 20:44.38 | encryptz | jbot: no, encryptz suffers from identity crisis |
| 20:44.45 | Tianon | it doesn't like suffers |
| 20:44.52 | Tianon | lol |
| 20:44.55 | encryptz | he/she/it/whatever wants the 'is' |
| 20:44.57 | encryptz | BUG |
| 20:45.04 | Tianon | it's not a rocket scientist |
| 20:45.06 | Tianon | it's just a bot |
| 20:45.07 | Tianon | :P |
| 20:45.13 | encryptz | jbot: no, encryptz is confused |
| 20:45.14 | jbot | okay, encryptz |
| 20:45.22 | Tianon | ~encryptz |
| 20:45.23 | jbot | i guess encryptz is confused |
| 20:45.28 | Tianon | :) |
| 20:45.39 | Tianon | ~google |
| 20:45.41 | jbot | i guess google is a search engine found at http://www.google.com/ |
| 20:45.45 | stuporglue | ~stuporglue |
| 20:45.50 | Tianon | see why now, encryptz? |
| 20:46.00 | Tianon | it's just defining words |
| 20:46.11 | Tianon | not really describing users, but it works for that, too |
| 20:46.15 | Tianon | it's a cool little bot :P |
| 20:46.26 | Tianon | why does the new guy have to explain all this? |
| 20:46.27 | Tianon | :P |
| 20:46.28 | encryptz | yeah. i know |
| 20:46.40 | encryptz | jbot and i go a long ways back |
| 20:46.41 | jbot | You go a long ways back? |
| 20:46.45 | encryptz | see |
| 20:46.52 | encryptz | :) |
| 20:47.08 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 20:50.00 | Zelut | any ideas on limiting the notices from bitlbee buddy list window? |
| 20:50.13 | Tianon | the notices? |
| 20:50.18 | Tianon | the +v -v stuff? |
| 20:50.28 | Zelut | constant! |
| 20:50.33 | Tianon | /help ignore |
| 20:50.49 | Tianon | if you setup a "bitlbee" network, you can add -network bitlbee to the ignore |
| 20:51.08 | Tianon | otherwise, just use the hostmask of root or something |
| 20:51.17 | Tianon | me either |
| 20:51.18 | Tianon | :) |
| 20:51.38 | encryptz | Zelut: how many are on your blist? |
| 20:52.51 | Zelut | 17 buddies, 11 available, 6 away. |
| 20:52.57 | Tianon | heh |
| 20:53.19 | Tianon | 98 buddies (14 available, 1 away, 83 offline) |
| 20:54.53 | encryptz | 21 buddies (5 available, 3 away, 13 offline) |
| 20:55.11 | Zelut | so I'm not that popular. fine. I just don't like the constant notice of activity on that window |
| 20:55.41 | encryptz | blist all |
| 20:55.56 | Tianon | :) |
| 20:56.06 | Tianon | Zelut: /help ignore |
| 20:56.07 | Tianon | :P |
| 20:57.06 | Tianon | just ignore certain messages from root |
| 20:57.26 | Tianon | in fact, just ignore messages of level MODES |
| 20:57.45 | Tianon | /ignore &bitlbee MODES <- to be easy |
| 21:02.50 | encryptz | wildfire rocks. it's just missing one feature: the ability to log chats |
| 21:02.58 | Tianon | haha |
| 21:03.03 | Tianon | that's kind of important, isn't it? |
| 21:03.33 | encryptz | you'd think so |
| 21:03.56 | encryptz | i'm sure i can build it in the db backend, but it should already be there |
| 21:10.32 | encryptz | hmmm |
| 21:10.42 | encryptz | it's built in to the enterprise edition... |
| 21:10.59 | encryptz | i wonder how much that goes for for a single user license |
| 21:11.10 | Zelut | softare license? yeck |
| 21:11.51 | Tianon | If you've paid that much for 1s and 0s, you aught to own the crap. |
| 21:11.59 | Tianon | silly windows |
| 21:12.02 | Tianon | trix are for kids |
| 21:12.56 | *** part/#ubuntu-utah stuporglue (n=stuporgl@tmpserver-48-243.et.byu.edu) |
| 21:13.24 | Tianon | true that =/ |
| 21:13.36 | Tianon | silly apple |
| 21:13.39 | Tianon | trix are for kids |
| 21:13.41 | Zelut | :) |
| 21:13.44 | Tianon | jbot: apple is dumb |
| 21:13.45 | jbot | ...but apple is already something else... |
| 21:13.48 | Tianon | :o |
| 21:13.49 | Tianon | ~apple |
| 21:13.51 | jbot | apple is a "different" computer company :). They are currently known for the iMac, eMac, PowerMac, XServe, iPod, iBook, and Titanium Powerbook. Their computers use (motorola) PowerPC processors, of the G3 (750) and G4 (74XX) nature. the G4 processor has vector processing known as "altivec". Apple can be found at http://www.apple.com, or apple recently adopted the ... |
| 21:14.00 | Tianon | o.o |
| 21:14.04 | Tianon | ~microsoft |
| 21:14.05 | jbot | "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start making vacuum cleaners." |
| 21:14.06 | encryptz | $495 + $12 / addl user |
| 21:14.06 | Zelut | that needs updating |
| 21:14.10 | Zelut | lol |
| 21:14.24 | Tianon | holy crap |
| 21:14.26 | encryptz | and no longer gpl |
| 21:14.28 | Tianon | that's a lot, encryptz |
| 21:14.45 | encryptz | Tianon: yeah. you're telling me |
| 21:14.46 | Tianon | if it's gpl, can't you add your own logging? n.n |
| 21:15.11 | Tianon | although, those crazy dvorak keyboards move ; to a not-so-handy place :P |
| 21:16.00 | Zelut | I tried Dvorak for a week & couldn't stand going from ~90wpm to ~25wpm |
| 21:17.13 | Tianon | heh |
| 21:17.26 | Tianon | I'm still working on it b.b |
| 21:17.39 | encryptz | ~75-80 wpm |
| 21:17.45 | Zelut | I do see the long-term benefits but I was too impatient to stick it out. I'm already tearin' it up on qwerty |
| 21:18.17 | Tianon | you know, "tearin' it up" is a very good way of putting that... |
| 21:18.42 | encryptz | :) |
| 21:18.47 | Zelut | it also seems to be a nice level of security as it basically encryptz your keyboard input for people unfamiliar. |
| 21:19.05 | Tianon | lol |
| 21:19.44 | Zelut | some time ago I removed & replaced all keys on my qwerty keyboard to a random location. My brother sat down, blew his mind, and got right back up :) |
| 21:19.55 | Tianon | xD |
| 21:20.19 | Tianon | I have a keyboard here that's relabelled for querty with some little stickers... |
| 21:20.26 | Tianon | I mean, dvoark |
| 21:20.32 | Tianon | wow |
| 21:20.35 | Tianon | I can't type. |
| 21:21.05 | Tianon | s/dvoark/dvorak/ |
| 21:21.20 | Zelut | looks like its actually gone up since I've looked at it. |
| 21:22.50 | Zelut | http://www.daskeyboard.com/ |
| 21:23.42 | thenetduck | * me |
| 21:23.44 | thenetduck | doh |
| 21:23.55 | thenetduck | hey how do you talk to yourself again? |
| 21:24.00 | Tianon | /me ? |
| 21:24.04 | thenetduck | ya |
| 21:24.10 | Tianon | lol |
| 21:24.37 | Zelut | ~lart thenetduck |
| 21:24.42 | Zelut | ~w00t |
| 21:24.43 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 21:24.59 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 21:25.04 | Tianon | das keybaord is indeed very cool |
| 21:25.27 | Tianon | but makes peck typing while eating a bagel harder |
| 21:25.33 | Tianon | unless you're using one-handed dvorak |
| 21:25.34 | Tianon | :P |
| 21:25.44 | Tianon | which I'd like to learn... :P |
| 21:25.50 | encryptz | Zelut: $10 cheaper at thinkgeek |
| 21:26.58 | Tianon | I'm not good enough with my top-row numbers to use das keyboard as-is... lol |
| 21:27.02 | Tianon | ~dvorak |
| 21:27.03 | jbot | i heard dvorak is a keyboard layout. For info and an input method for Qpe visit http://cowgar.com/ipaq/ |
| 21:27.09 | Tianon | wtf? |
| 21:27.20 | Tianon | ipaq?! |
| 21:27.26 | encryptz | 404 |
| 21:27.31 | Tianon | ?! |
| 21:27.54 | Zelut | I guess Das Keyboard is supposed to train you quickly because you *can't* rely on looking as a crutch. You'll master it pretty quickly |
| 21:28.15 | Tianon | jbot: no, dvorak is an awesome keyboard layout, inproving both accuracy and speed. More information at http://www.dvzine.org/ |
| 21:28.16 | jbot | Tianon: okay |
| 21:28.20 | Tianon | haha |
| 21:28.24 | Tianon | yah |
| 21:28.25 | Zelut | ...perhaps I should simply spraypaint these keys to black & call it close enough :) |
| 21:28.30 | Tianon | :D |
| 21:28.32 | encryptz | meh |
| 21:29.33 | encryptz | jbot: no, dvorak is The Keyboard Layout. For info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard and http://www.dvzine.org |
| 21:29.34 | jbot | encryptz: okay |
| 21:29.37 | encryptz | hah |
| 21:29.39 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 21:29.40 | Tianon | awesome |
| 21:29.47 | Tianon | ~qwerty |
| 21:29.48 | jbot | tianon forgot how to type |
| 21:29.55 | Tianon | oh snap |
| 21:29.56 | encryptz | haha |
| 21:30.15 | encryptz | ~dvorak |
| 21:30.17 | jbot | somebody said dvorak was The Keyboard Layout. For info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_Simplified_Keyboard and http://www.dvzine.org |
| 21:30.25 | Tianon | :) |
| 21:31.03 | encryptz | aoeuidhtns-! |
| 21:31.07 | encryptz | or... |
| 21:31.15 | encryptz | "a weed is hittin' us!" |
| 21:31.37 | Tianon | haha |
| 21:32.38 | encryptz | man! everytime i get an email, i think "could it be THE ONE?" but alas, it never is... |
| 21:32.47 | encryptz | ~email encryptz |
| 21:35.37 | Tianon | ~help |
| 21:36.55 | Tianon | ~slashdot |
| 21:37.02 | Tianon | so cool |
| 21:37.14 | Tianon | it even uses color, if this channel weren't +c... |
| 21:37.41 | Tianon | lol |
| 21:37.45 | Tianon | musta been atoponce |
| 21:37.47 | Tianon | ;) |
| 21:38.20 | Zelut | if we can colorize the channel for your comfort I don't have any objections. atoponce? |
| 21:38.47 | Zelut | Tianon: I initially started the channel but I'm just the pretty face in front of the team. I don't know how things work ;) |
| 21:38.49 | Tianon | colors are just nice for the bot :P |
| 21:38.53 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 21:39.12 | atoponce | Zelut: i don't mind. i would prefer the channel to have -c |
| 21:39.16 | atoponce | all channels should have -c |
| 21:39.20 | Tianon | well said |
| 21:39.25 | Tianon | so where'd this ugly +c come from? |
| 21:39.26 | Tianon | lol |
| 21:39.28 | atoponce | but i don't have access to change it... |
| 21:39.35 | atoponce | Tianon: chanserv sets it by default |
| 21:39.38 | Tianon | o.O |
| 21:39.46 | Zelut | tell me how to change it |
| 21:40.21 | Tianon | /msg chanserv set #ubuntu-xgl mlock +nt-c |
| 21:40.23 | atoponce | Zelut: to be honest, i'm not exactly sure. hold on a sec, and i'll figure it out |
| 21:40.35 | Tianon | I mean... |
| 21:40.38 | Tianon | /msg chanserv set #ubuntu-utah mlock +nt-c |
| 21:40.39 | Tianon | lol |
| 21:41.12 | atoponce | [14:40] - ChanServ- | (ChanServ@services.) An access level of [25] is required for [SET] on #ubuntu-utah |
| 21:41.22 | Tianon | Zelut: it's all you, man |
| 21:41.37 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [-c+nt] by ChanServ |
| 21:41.42 | Tianon | woot |
| 21:41.49 | Zelut | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.49 | Tianon | ~slashdot |
| 21:41.57 | atoponce | ~w00t! |
| 21:42.01 | jbot | There it is! |
| 21:42.05 | Tianon | lawl |
| 21:42.35 | acrid | is that supposed to be colored? |
| 21:42.46 | encryptz | that's what i'm wondering |
| 21:43.07 | Tianon | you guys and your boring gnome-terminal |
| 21:43.09 | Tianon | it's got bold |
| 21:43.21 | Tianon | gnome-terminal + irssi == no bold |
| 21:43.50 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah UtahBot (n=UtahBot@c-24-2-85-66.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 21:44.01 | acrid | MySpace.com is the only thing bold for me |
| 21:44.05 | acrid | hmm |
| 21:44.12 | encryptz | !uptime |
| 21:44.12 | acrid | looks like that was a fluke, anyway.. |
| 21:44.23 | encryptz | ... |
| 21:44.23 | Tianon | ~uptime |
| 21:44.26 | UtahBot | 4UtahBot 14has been up for:4 0 14week(s)4 0 14day(s)4 0 14hour(s)4 0 14minute(s)4 41 14second(s). |
| 21:44.31 | Tianon | whoa |
| 21:44.32 | encryptz | haha! |
| 21:44.41 | Tianon | utahbot lags |
| 21:44.43 | Tianon | lol |
| 21:44.49 | Tianon | a whole 41 seconds eh? |
| 21:44.49 | Tianon | :P |
| 21:44.54 | encryptz | not sure why that took so long... |
| 21:45.02 | encryptz | !geek |
| 21:45.03 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if there are two magazines in front of you, the newest issue of PC Magazine and the other a porno. And you choose the PC mag over the porno. |
| 21:45.41 | Tianon | I've got a box of almost two years worth of PC World sitting right here... |
| 21:45.42 | encryptz | !geek |
| 21:45.43 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you look at a movie trailer and think, "I have that typeface." |
| 21:45.48 | Tianon | But not the porno mag. |
| 21:45.52 | Tianon | haha |
| 21:46.16 | Tianon | ＄ |
| 21:46.21 | encryptz | anyone notice the similarity between spiderman 3 and the playstation 3? |
| 21:49.48 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 21:49.49 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your favorite part of Geometry was proving theorems. |
| 21:49.55 | [phoenyx] | yay! |
| 21:49.57 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 21:49.58 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you've ever been successful at catching a spammer. |
| 21:50.04 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 21:50.06 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if everyone in the neighborhood brings you (to) their computers to figure out what is wrong. |
| 21:50.43 | Tianon | lawl |
| 21:50.48 | Tianon | I'm guilty |
| 21:54.57 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 21:54.57 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if your wallpaper is made up of Linux code. |
| 21:55.05 | Zelut | ohh, tempting |
| 21:55.30 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 21:55.30 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you use old CD-ROMs as coasters... |
| 21:56.30 | [phoenyx] | !geek |
| 21:56.31 | UtahBot | You might be a geek if you walk past a Con and people know who you are. |
| 22:04.29 | thenetduck | hey I can't find anyone that has good API for python, does anyone know af a good site ? |
| 22:20.18 | Tianon | pheh, TypeTrainer4Mac says that I'm typing ~180-200 characters/min... wtf measurement is that? :P |
| 22:20.52 | atoponce | Tianon: two words: gtypist. :) |
| 22:21.00 | Tianon | atoponce: osx? |
| 22:21.04 | Tianon | atoponce: free? :P |
| 22:21.11 | atoponce | free |
| 22:21.16 | Tianon | ooh |
| 22:21.19 | Tianon | but not osx... |
| 22:21.22 | atoponce | put it on the ubuntu box you have... |
| 22:21.25 | atoponce | and ssh in... |
| 22:21.37 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 22:21.46 | Tianon | ssh into my ubuntu box just to do my touch typing |
| 22:21.49 | Tianon | that's rich |
| 22:22.01 | Tianon | my ubuntu box is the one with the dvorak labeled keyboard :P |
| 22:22.30 | atoponce | :) |
| 22:22.47 | atoponce | what are you running your screen session on? |
| 22:22.49 | Tianon | oh, and that speed up there is with that awful qwerty crap |
| 22:22.58 | Tianon | I run irssi on my mac |
| 22:23.06 | Tianon | my ubuntu box isn't stable enough for that ;) |
| 22:23.14 | Tianon | some shoddy hardware component somewhere |
| 22:23.19 | atoponce | ahh |
| 22:23.26 | Tianon | makes both windows and linux lock up periodically |
| 22:23.31 | Tianon | completely frozen |
| 22:23.32 | Tianon | bad |
| 22:23.49 | Tianon | and ignites a bug with irssi+ssh, which is really weird |
| 22:23.50 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:24.16 | Tianon | does gtypist have games for me to play, too? |
| 22:24.27 | atoponce | no |
| 22:24.30 | Tianon | TypeTrainer4Mac kind of sucks... |
| 22:24.30 | Tianon | aww |
| 22:24.33 | atoponce | not that i'm aware of |
| 22:24.35 | atoponce | wait |
| 22:24.35 | Tianon | no games is a sad thing |
| 22:24.44 | atoponce | maybe, now that i think about it |
| 22:24.48 | atoponce | it's been awhlie |
| 22:24.53 | atoponce | hold on |
| 22:25.12 | Tianon | whoa, gtypist is in fink |
| 22:25.17 | Tianon | *installs it on osx* |
| 22:25.30 | Tianon | woot! |
| 22:26.00 | atoponce | nope. no games |
| 22:27.33 | Tianon | api |
| 22:27.43 | Tianon | s/api/arg/ |
| 22:27.57 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:28.07 | Tianon | I just totally screwed myself |
| 22:28.13 | Tianon | it doesn't like mistakes muc |
| 22:28.13 | Tianon | h |
| 22:28.20 | atoponce | nope. :) |
| 22:28.21 | Tianon | it skips them instead of beeping and making me try again |
| 22:28.28 | atoponce | yup |
| 22:28.45 | atoponce | trains you on accuracy, young grasshopper |
| 22:28.58 | Tianon | it seems to almost expect me to be either labelled or have a reference |
| 22:29.10 | atoponce | keeps your pinky off of that blastet backspace |
| 22:29.24 | atoponce | s/et /ed / |
| 22:29.34 | Tianon | I don't want backspace, I just want it to beep and not print anything |
| 22:29.35 | Tianon | :P |
| 22:29.47 | Tianon | I want to keep trying until I get it, for accuracies sake |
| 22:29.59 | Tianon | s/accuracies/accuracy's/ |
| 22:30.06 | atoponce | hh |
| 22:30.12 | Tianon | s/sake/sake./ |
| 22:30.16 | atoponce | s/hh/hehe/ |
| 22:30.16 | Tianon | woot! |
| 22:30.20 | Tianon | it'll even go twice! |
| 22:30.21 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:30.23 | atoponce | jbot: you're a lifesaver |
| 22:30.35 | Tianon | :) |
| 22:30.35 | Tianon | it's awesome! |
| 22:30.36 | Tianon | :D |
| 22:30.42 | atoponce | jbot: what would we do without you? |
| 22:30.58 | Tianon | s/(:D)/howdy feller! $1/ |
| 22:31.11 | Tianon | s/(:D)/howdy feller! \1/ |
| 22:31.14 | Tianon | darn |
| 22:31.17 | Tianon | it hates me |
| 22:31.17 | atoponce | :) |
| 22:31.34 | atoponce | s/ w/¿w/ |
| 22:31.42 | atoponce | too far back |
| 22:31.43 | Tianon | s/(m)e/$1y regex/ |
| 22:31.48 | Tianon | warg |
| 22:31.58 | Tianon | s/w(arg)/$1/ |
| 22:32.12 | Tianon | it's not doing real regex! :o |
| 22:32.36 | atoponce | ~shoot Tianon |
| 22:32.37 | jbot | ACTION shoots Tianon in the foot with a cork gun! |
| 22:32.46 | Tianon | s/peers/looks/ |
| 22:32.51 | Tianon | heh |
| 22:32.58 | Tianon | ouch |
| 22:33.00 | atoponce | jbot: lame |
| 22:33.01 | jbot | lame is probably an LGPL MP3 encoder, #mp3encoder http://lame.sourceforge.net/ see http://www.apt-get.org/ apt-get sites |
| 22:33.07 | atoponce | heh |
| 22:33.09 | Tianon | lawl |
| 22:33.18 | Tianon | :o |
| 22:33.22 | Tianon | /script load nickcolor |
| 22:33.24 | Tianon | asap! |
| 22:33.27 | Zelut | done |
| 22:33.28 | atoponce | Zelut: you'll lose indented nicks on your theme |
| 22:33.41 | atoponce | :) |
| 22:33.43 | Tianon | and if you installed scriptassist... /scriptassist autorun nickcolor |
| 22:33.55 | Tianon | scriptassist is awesome... |
| 22:34.07 | Tianon | oh, and good luck unloading nickcolor |
| 22:34.15 | Tianon | the theme will stay borked until you /reload |
| 22:34.22 | Tianon | just don't /save it like that |
| 22:34.23 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:36.32 | Tianon | are there any scripts to make life good for dvorak users, atoponce? |
| 22:36.36 | Tianon | that you know of, that is |
| 22:37.31 | Zelut | ./nickcolor removed |
| 22:37.36 | Tianon | heh |
| 22:37.36 | Tianon | :) |
| 22:37.45 | Tianon | Zelut: / /I can type a / now |
| 22:37.48 | Tianon | /whee |
| 22:38.12 | Zelut | you couldn't do / before? |
| 22:38.34 | Tianon | well, I was just showing you that / / trick, as it looked like the ./ was to escape that / ;) |
| 22:38.53 | Zelut | ohh, right |
| 22:40.08 | atoponce | /say works also |
| 22:40.12 | Tianon | true... |
| 22:40.27 | atoponce | but / / is easier |
| 22:40.32 | Tianon | :D |
| 22:40.34 | atoponce | and faster |
| 22:40.40 | atoponce | by 1 keystroke |
| 22:40.54 | atoponce | :) |
| 22:40.59 | Tianon | and there's no mention of "dvorak" on scripts.irssi.org :( |
| 22:41.10 | atoponce | s/:)/ツ/ |
| 22:41.22 | Tianon | muahahaha! |
| 22:41.27 | atoponce | Tianon: what are you looking for? |
| 22:41.37 | Tianon | s/for/at/ |
| 22:41.46 | Tianon | aww, I can't correct you |
| 22:41.47 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:41.51 | atoponce | meh |
| 22:42.04 | Tianon | actually, I'm just looking for something that might remap the window switching buttons on the fly |
| 22:42.11 | atoponce | binding your dvorak keys to switch windows? |
| 22:42.23 | Tianon | because I use alt+any key on the keyboard to swtich windows |
| 22:42.49 | atoponce | http://www.pthree.org/2006/06/20/change-window-shortcuts-in-irssi/ |
| 22:43.07 | Tianon | whoa |
| 22:43.08 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:43.15 | Tianon | those aliases are huge |
| 22:43.37 | atoponce | they do the first 20 windows |
| 22:43.50 | atoponce | 1-10 and '-l |
| 22:44.09 | Tianon | I was kinda hoping somebody would get all magical and watch for something like "nrn" being typed to know he's in dvorak mode trying to type in qwerty... but I guess I'm crazy... because I have no idea how that'd work |
| 22:44.11 | atoponce | you could bind a-s and ;-z if you wanted, to get 40 windows |
| 22:44.35 | Tianon | I have bound 1-0, q-p, a-;, z-/ on qwerty |
| 22:44.49 | atoponce | http://www.pthree.org/2006/12/19/296/ |
| 22:44.51 | Tianon | this is actually window #33 |
| 22:45.02 | Tianon | whoa |
| 22:45.09 | Tianon | kewl |
| 22:48.21 | tristanbob | you all see the new virtual machine that is open source? http://www.virtualbox.org/ |
| 22:49.36 | Tianon | ooh |
| 22:52.37 | atoponce | tristanbob: anything? |
| 22:52.43 | atoponce | nothing here. |
| 22:52.48 | atoponce | i'm getting really impatient |
| 22:53.34 | tristanbob | nope, not-ta-ting |
| 22:53.41 | Tianon | whoa, dapper support |
| 22:54.21 | Tianon | not just support, but a dapper .deb! |
| 22:54.25 | atoponce | heh. dsl in a virtual machine |
| 22:54.34 | Tianon | again. |
| 22:54.50 | Tianon | dsl has one that runs off qemu... |
| 22:54.53 | Tianon | qemu is slow, though. |
| 22:54.59 | Tianon | is this faster than qemu? |
| 22:56.11 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:57.03 | Tianon | at least they're not doing the popular 0.0.16 versioning... |
| 22:57.14 | Tianon | as in, version >1 for 12 years. |
| 22:57.50 | atoponce | yeah |
| 22:57.53 | atoponce | like irssi? |
| 22:58.10 | Tianon | yeah |
| 22:58.11 | Tianon | lol |
| 22:58.15 | atoponce | which brings up the question: when's the next release? |
| 22:58.15 | Tianon | or worse, #e |
| 22:58.24 | Tianon | who knows? |
| 22:58.42 | atoponce | 0.8.10a has been out since feb or mar of last year... |
| 22:58.47 | Tianon | yup |
| 22:58.57 | atoponce | weechat, on the other hand, very active development... |
| 23:02.22 | Tianon | hmm... I guess it's time for me to print out the back cover of the dvzine... |
| 23:02.25 | Tianon | lol |
| 23:02.55 | encryptz | Tianon: ? i thought you were a dvorak typist? and this whole time you've been deceiving me?? |
| 23:03.02 | Tianon | hahaha |
| 23:03.08 | Tianon | I'm still working on it |
| 23:03.11 | Zelut | brb |
| 23:03.37 | Tianon | although I am a dvorak follower, make no mistake |
| 23:03.44 | encryptz | good. |
| 23:03.56 | Tianon | I just don't have three weeks to set aside from my normal life of qwerty to learn dvorak =/ |
| 23:04.26 | Tianon | and dvorak isn't exactly kind to programmers... |
| 23:04.27 | atoponce | 'aoeuidhtns-!' to dvorak: ar.gcedybo[! |
| 23:04.30 | atoponce | bah |
| 23:04.36 | atoponce | 'aoeuidhtns-!' to qwerty: asdfghjkl;'! |
| 23:04.43 | Tianon | lol |
| 23:05.05 | atoponce | meh. i program in perl daily, and it works just fine |
| 23:05.12 | Tianon | heh |
| 23:05.18 | Tianon | the semi-colon just bothers me a bit... |
| 23:05.21 | Tianon | and the braces |
| 23:05.42 | atoponce | i'll tell you one thing that bugs me: ls |
| 23:06.19 | atoponce | the right pinky? arg |
| 23:06.20 | Tianon | haha |
| 23:06.21 | Tianon | yes, that is bothersome... |
| 23:06.27 | atoponce | alias no='ls' |
| 23:06.30 | atoponce | and there you go |
| 23:06.34 | Tianon | lawl |
| 23:06.44 | Tianon | qwerty got ls right ;) |
| 23:07.00 | Tianon | ls was designed for it, I'll bet |
| 23:07.02 | Tianon | evil qwerty |
| 23:07.08 | Tianon | ~smite qwerty |
| 23:07.12 | jbot | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves qwerty from crown to sole. |
| 23:07.17 | atoponce | so were your programming languages |
| 23:07.19 | Tianon | ~w00t |
| 23:07.21 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 23:07.25 | Tianon | so true =/ |
| 23:07.29 | Tianon | hence the ; |
| 23:07.40 | Tianon | ~smite qwerty |
| 23:07.42 | jbot | ACTION wields the mighty blade of Argothax and cleaves qwerty from crown to sole. |
| 23:07.52 | atoponce | ~whaleslap qwerty |
| 23:07.54 | jbot | ACTION beats qwerty upside and over the head with a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh |
| 23:07.54 | Tianon | aw... c'mon! |
| 23:07.59 | atoponce | ~poo qwerty |
| 23:08.00 | jbot | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at qwerty |
| 23:08.05 | atoponce | ~monkey qwerty |
| 23:08.06 | jbot | ACTION flings poo at qwerty |
| 23:08.07 | Tianon | ~w00t |
| 23:08.08 | jbot | w00t!!! |
| 23:08.24 | atoponce | ~dvorak Tianon |
| 23:08.30 | Tianon | :O |
| 23:09.17 | atoponce | quit distracting me |
| 23:09.24 | Tianon | n.n |
| 23:18.57 | encryptz | tristanbob: so, no desktop entry in the gnome menu for virtualbox/ |
| 23:18.59 | encryptz | ? |
| 23:19.25 | tristanbob | how did you install? |
| 23:19.36 | tristanbob | I see one in Applications system tools |
| 23:19.45 | encryptz | sudo dpgk -i Virtual,,.p'nhaosunad r ,h,snpd, .deb |
| 23:19.59 | encryptz | ahh |
| 23:20.03 | tristanbob | see it? |
| 23:20.06 | encryptz | "Innotek ..." |
| 23:20.08 | tristanbob | y |
| 23:20.29 | tristanbob | you need to add your self to a users group first |
| 23:20.35 | tristanbob | or it won't start the vm |
| 23:20.38 | encryptz | going to upgrade from warty to hoary to breezy to dapper to edgy to feisty |
| 23:20.40 | encryptz | :) |
| 23:20.41 | tristanbob | vbox I think |
| 23:20.45 | encryptz | yeah. did that |
| 23:20.50 | tristanbob | k |
| 23:21.01 | tristanbob | encryptz: cool - blog about it of course |
| 23:21.08 | encryptz | of course. :) |
| 23:21.10 | Tianon | lol |
| 23:21.21 | tristanbob | I have 4 good blogs waiting for the ubunt planey |
| 23:24.23 | encryptz | hmmm. can't mount the cdrom/dvd |
| 23:27.10 | encryptz | tristanbob: could you get it mounted? |
| 23:27.45 | tristanbob | I need to log-off/on before I try again |
| 23:33.49 | encryptz | gasp! the binaries aren't Free Software!!! |
| 23:34.10 | Zelut | lol |
| 23:36.03 | encryptz | phew! that was *too* close |
| 23:36.47 | encryptz | :) |
| 23:37.05 | Zelut | so how is it open source *and* not free software? |
| 23:37.29 | encryptz | Zelut: they include closed source "features" in the distributed binary |
| 23:37.40 | encryptz | you want the gpl, you have to build it yourself |
| 23:41.47 | Zelut | Tianon: just out of curiosity (and this'll show my IRC viginity), what are the +nt-c flags I set? |
| 23:44.29 | encryptz | heh |
| 23:44.55 | encryptz | +n is to keep outside users from sending messages to the channel |
| 23:45.13 | encryptz | +t is to lock the topic, so only ops can change it |
| 23:45.14 | Zelut | interesting |
| 23:45.26 | encryptz | +c is a color filter keeping color out of the channel |
| 23:57.10 | encryptz | why in the eightch eee double-hocky sticks do i have acroread installed????? |
| 23:57.18 | encryptz | s/ky/key/ |
| 23:58.50 | encryptz | ~blame maquis |
| 23:59.02 | jbot | ACTION blames maquis (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |