| 00:32.03 | Kuyaedz | downloading the DVD iso now. |
| 00:32.14 | Kuyaedz | still going to take all night, but interested in trying |
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| 01:04.34 | Kuyaedz | ~lart DougE |
| 01:05.26 | DougE | hi...bum head |
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| 03:06.07 | Kuyaedz | anyone using skype I can test? |
| 03:10.57 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. picked up a mic & it doesn't seem to be workin |
| 04:10.58 | Kuyaedz | don't everyone help out all at once.. I think I got it taken care of :) |
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| 05:02.31 | MrBrizzio | lol |
| 05:32.04 | linuxalien | Kuyaedz, I'll help you tomorrow. I'm going to bed now. ;) |
| 05:32.07 | linuxalien | nite all |
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| 16:47.52 | tristanbob | this is so exciting! I am upgrading to Edgy |
| 16:47.59 | tristanbob | on my work laptop |
| 16:56.54 | atoponce | cool. i did it last night at home, and i like it |
| 17:05.48 | maquis | it just upgrades all the packages you already have installed? |
| 17:05.54 | maquis | doesn't install anything new, right? |
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| 17:58.35 | tristanbob | wow, that is scary - DO I WANT TO REMOVE OBSOLETE PACKAGES? |
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| 17:59.03 | tristanbob | I said "yes" - 47 packages down the drain! (hopefully replaced with better ones) |
| 18:02.07 | Kuyaedz | ~lart the IT department for being COMPLETE idiots |
| 18:02.25 | tristanbob | what now? |
| 18:02.41 | Kuyaedz | somehow any downloaded file comes thru as corrupt |
| 18:02.48 | tristanbob | oh shoot! I was going to time the bootup and shutdown times before I upgraded |
| 18:02.56 | tristanbob | I want to see the differences! |
| 18:03.10 | tristanbob | before someone else upgrades dapper to edgy, time your boot-up and shutdown |
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| 18:04.08 | tristanbob | also I have a great feature suggestion for Ubuntu 7.04 |
| 18:04.29 | tristanbob | right-click on the application name in the menu, have an uninstall option |
| 18:04.50 | tristanbob | my brother installed a gazillion games in Ubuntu |
| 18:05.02 | tristanbob | with that he can super easily remove the apps |
| 18:05.47 | atoponce | maquis: yeah. some things are added/replaced |
| 18:06.14 | herlo | http://www.sf-lug.org/ |
| 18:06.17 | atoponce | xinitd is replaced with upstart |
| 18:06.19 | herlo | has a cool penguin |
| 18:06.30 | herlo | atoponce: do you mean xinetd? |
| 18:07.11 | atoponce | yeah. that. :) |
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| 18:07.27 | atoponce | tomato tomahto |
| 18:08.09 | herlo | atoponce: oh, see how you are |
| 18:11.06 | Kuyaedz | I just cracked open a corrupted file thru our network. It looks like their antivirus filter is failing & re-writing the file with "Antivirus failed - corrupt" |
| 18:14.11 | Kuyaedz | I brought in a stack of CDs to burn .iso today. Hopefully I can get a healthy pile for tomorrow |
| 18:14.26 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: don't you have pressed cds? |
| 18:14.40 | Kuyaedz | Edgy pressed wont be here for about another two weeks |
| 18:15.58 | atoponce | cool. and you're getting 500 of those? |
| 18:16.33 | Kuyaedz | yes |
| 18:18.14 | Kuyaedz | just putting together a few home-burnt copies for tomorrow |
| 18:19.11 | atoponce | cool. i'm looking forward to the pressed cds |
| 18:24.55 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I've found a network based solution, but I think it'll be better if we try to get it working after the install-fest. Maybe for the next one...then no CDs will need to be burned except for the ones given out after installation |
| 18:26.27 | Kuyaedz | is it going to be tricky? |
| 18:26.31 | maquis | atoponce: anything i'm likely to get upset about that gets installed automatically? |
| 18:28.47 | herlo | Kuyaedz: not really, just there is no real way to do it by booting a CD/Floppy without a bunch of prep... |
| 18:31.00 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I intend on doing it this way... |
| 18:31.01 | herlo | http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ |
| 18:42.47 | tristanbob | herlo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot |
| 18:42.51 | tristanbob | try that? |
| 18:44.24 | tristanbob | actually, this looks ever more simple - http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/ |
| 18:45.09 | atoponce | maquis: no. nothing i have noticed anyway |
| 18:59.31 | maquis | atoponce: ok... |
| 18:59.52 | maquis | as long as it doens't insist on me having ooffice, gnome, kde, gdm, etc... :) |
| 19:02.22 | herlo | tristanbob: have you done that install yet? |
| 19:15.53 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: did you get your installation fixed? |
| 19:16.22 | Kuyaedz | herlo: I tried FC6 but it says my DVD is corrupt.. weren't you having that trouble yesterday? |
| 19:16.25 | herlo | tristanbob: the problem is that all of those require a pxe environment and a managed network card. I was hoping to do it without such requirements.... |
| 19:16.41 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I wasn't having trouble, only the text install didn't work. |
| 19:16.55 | herlo | I was experimenting with all of the install methods... |
| 19:21.40 | tristanbob | herlo: you don't need pxe if you use a floppy |
| 19:22.25 | tristanbob | http://etherboot.sourceforge.net/index.html |
| 19:22.57 | herlo | yeah, I know |
| 19:23.17 | herlo | but etherboot seems like such a pain, and why a floppy, can't we update our lives to cd? |
| 19:23.22 | tristanbob | :) |
| 19:23.44 | herlo | I am building a Edgy vm right now and then going to have another vm to test it out with... |
| 19:25.03 | tristanbob | you can use a CD rom |
| 19:25.31 | tristanbob | http://rom-o-matic.net/ |
| 19:26.20 | herlo | tristanbob: have you built that before? |
| 19:26.29 | herlo | I've seen all of these sites. |
| 19:26.30 | tristanbob | no - it's all theoretical ;) |
| 19:26.57 | tristanbob | you can' blame me for trying, though |
| 19:27.01 | herlo | tristanbob: yeah, and it's a bit more complex than it first looks. I am sure I could do it, but I don't think I'll have enough time |
| 19:27.24 | herlo | no, I can't I appreciate all of the help. I am still looking for the ultimate install disk. |
| 19:27.25 | tristanbob | do you have a business need for net install, or just interested |
| 19:27.33 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: on my laptop, there was no problem. at work on the other hand... |
| 19:27.49 | atoponce | but yeah, i backed up, formatted and installed fresh. |
| 19:27.52 | herlo | It should be able to let you choose how you'd like to install (net, hd, usb, cd, etc) |
| 19:28.02 | atoponce | working fine now. still without usplash though... |
| 19:28.39 | herlo | tristanbob: mostly just interested, but since I do this sort of install every week, it'd be nice to be able to install it as such and install it (automated, or not) in 20 mins... fully loaded, |
| 19:30.26 | herlo | I am not trying to pick a fight with the ubuntu crowd, but FC can do this, and it's made easy too.. I am sure it's just a matter of me learning, but it seems like there isn't any easy way to do it. |
| 19:31.03 | herlo | Also, I'd like to take some time to figure out how to get multiple network based installs working and provide one cd/pxe/floppy/usb to boot from... |
| 19:33.48 | herlo | I also think it's strange when it asks you to identify your keyboard and the installer asks you if a particular key is on your keyboard |
| 19:34.20 | tristanbob | herlo: no, I think it is an area that Ubuntu can improve. Network installing is a common task for administrators |
| 19:36.29 | herlo | tristanbob: I appreciate your candor.... |
| 19:39.18 | tristanbob | I am a newbie IRC user |
| 19:39.41 | tristanbob | I have IRC running at home and at work - is that what ghost is used for? |
| 19:39.41 | herlo | tristanbob: no worries |
| 19:39.48 | herlo | no |
| 19:40.17 | herlo | but you could have tristanbob in one place and ssh into it using screen |
| 19:40.28 | herlo | chat clients like irssi help... |
| 19:40.55 | tristanbob | I have heard of screen - but I haven't used it yet |
| 19:41.18 | herlo | all you need to know about screen is <Ctrl-A>d and the screen command itself... |
| 19:42.00 | herlo | # screen [-S screenname] |
| 19:42.09 | herlo | <Ctrl-A> d will detach |
| 19:42.26 | herlo | # screen -r screenname.pid will reattach |
| 19:43.05 | herlo | # screen -ls will list running screen sessions |
| 19:43.54 | tristanbob | thanks for the tips |
| 19:44.28 | herlo | tristanbob: anytime. I run gaim here, but I am working on getting it so I can run irssi from anywhere in the world. |
| 19:44.53 | herlo | ghost allows you to delete a username that is somehow stuck on. That's what I thought had happened.... |
| 19:59.13 | tristanbob | ahh - I see |
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| 20:09.28 | linuxalien | Linux? Bah! Windows Vista will rule you all! |
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| 20:40.26 | nettogaurav | hello every body |
| 20:40.49 | herlo | hello nettogaurav |
| 20:41.08 | Kuyaedz | hello |
| 20:46.13 | nettogaurav | can i chat with u kuyaedz |
| 20:48.36 | Kuyaedz | nettogaurav: ok |
| 20:53.14 | herlo | Man, Edgy took a long time to install on my vm |
| 21:00.07 | Kuyaedz | I hope these install CDs work. I've verified the md5--I hate making coasters |
| 21:00.33 | nettogaurav | any one doing java prog in linux |
| 21:01.24 | herlo | Kuyaedz: that's why I want to do the net based installation... |
| 21:12.14 | Kuyaedz | that was weird. He asked to talk to me personally & he was just wondering where GCC was :) |
| 21:12.47 | herlo | Kuyaedz: aw well, maybe he felt intimidated in the room |
| 21:13.11 | herlo | sometimes the channel can feel a meaner than it is |
| 21:13.17 | herlo | or something like that |
| 21:13.45 | Kuyaedz | I was definitely intimidated when I first started with IRC.. he did sound new |
| 21:16.59 | herlo | yeah |
| 21:17.07 | herlo | that was my guess. |
| 21:20.25 | tristanbob | stop spooling around, herlo |
| 21:24.56 | herlo | tristanbob: funny, haha ;) |
| 21:44.36 | herlo | I wish I could test this here, but I've not a switch... |
| 21:45.28 | herlo | at least not an extra one |
| 21:52.21 | herlo | I am going to try it with VMWare... |
| 22:32.30 | tristanbob | atoponce: I wish Kevin would have posted the details of the meeting |
| 22:32.52 | tristanbob | same time and place just doesn't cut it - sure it did when black-and-white batman was around |
| 22:33.10 | tristanbob | POW!! BANG!! |
| 22:38.46 | tristanbob | atoponce: so is the OALUG meeting at 10:00 AM? |
| 22:44.12 | atoponce | tristanbob: yeah |
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| 22:50.19 | syngindub | hi |
| 22:50.46 | syngindub | managed eventually to get up and running |
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