| 00:08.14 | linuxalien | I kinda wish I knew how to program now. |
| 00:08.38 | linuxalien | I wonder if I should read up on C# |
| 00:30.14 | atoponce | linuxalien: did you get an interview with venture data? |
| 00:34.35 | linuxalien | Nopers, haven't been contacted yet. |
| 00:37.39 | linuxalien | Did your boss say they would email or call? |
| 00:51.31 | atoponce | i didn't ask. and he's already left. i'll ask tomorrow |
| 00:53.23 | linuxalien | Ok, thanks! |
| 00:57.49 | Kuyaedz | son of a ... randomly my notebook can get back on the office network again |
| 00:58.01 | Kuyaedz | bunch of homos.. our IT crew here is gay |
| 01:12.29 | linuxalien | That sucks. Don't bend over for the stapleer! |
| 01:12.32 | linuxalien | stapler |
| 01:13.59 | linuxalien | Gotta run! |
| 01:14.53 | linuxalien | Time to look at cars |
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| 07:06.49 | Dapper606 | Whatever happened to Preparations A through G? |
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| 12:57.52 | Dapper606 | I was thinking about how people seem to read the Bible a whole lot more as they get older. Then it dawned on me..... they're cramming for their final exam. |
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| 16:27.41 | Kuyaedz | http://lug.oregonstate.edu/index.php/Projects/Firefox/Firefox_Circle [Aliens prefer FF over IE?] |
| 16:57.51 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: you can follow that and other cool things *long* before anyone else at: |
| 16:58.03 | atoponce | http://www.firefoxflicks.com/web-diaries/ |
| 16:58.10 | atoponce | :) |
| 16:58.36 | atoponce | iirc, it cost them like $20,000 or something |
| 17:01.22 | Kuyaedz | wow |
| 17:02.00 | atoponce | on the vid on the page, they had a tough time finding a spot, but one guy was willing to loan his land and equip, but it cost them |
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| 19:47.41 | Kuyaedz | ~rlart |
| 19:48.19 | synic | o_O |
| 19:48.24 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: have you gotten comments to work on you pages on your blog? |
| 19:49.31 | Kuyaedz | no, but I did see the option is checked in the Options |
| 21:19.23 | maquis | !geek |
| 21:19.24 | Dapper606 | You might be a geek if if you paid $6000 for your computer and $500 for your car. |
| 21:19.29 | Kuyaedz | it would be nice though to comment pages |
| 21:19.49 | maquis | hmm |
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| 21:32.38 | Kuyaedz | ~lart DougE |
| 21:33.45 | DougE | why me? |
| 21:34.24 | Kuyaedz | why not? |
| 21:35.22 | DougE | cause i could own you |
| 21:39.00 | atoponce | maquis: haven't seen you blog at tuxgirl for a while now... |
| 21:39.23 | maquis | atoponce: yeah |
| 21:39.23 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: still playing with fedora core? |
| 21:39.25 | maquis | i've been busy |
| 21:39.44 | maquis | once i get moved, i should have a bit more time |
| 21:39.45 | atoponce | likely excuse... ;) |
| 21:40.03 | maquis | atoponce: well... moving, graduating, dating, etc... |
| 21:40.50 | atoponce | what? you think you should have a life out of computing?? |
| 21:41.05 | maquis | atoponce: i know... i'm crazy |
| 21:42.05 | atoponce | i need to start playing with other distros and *nixes just for the fun of it |
| 21:42.14 | synic | freebsd is fun |
| 21:42.27 | synic | it's a bit whack, but fun. |
| 21:42.30 | synic | same with openbsd |
| 21:42.33 | synic | I never tried netbsd |
| 21:42.59 | atoponce | which is better? free, net, or open? |
| 21:43.03 | atoponce | *bsd ^^ |
| 21:43.18 | synic | um... for just fiddling, free is probably the easiest to start with |
| 21:43.41 | synic | it supports most things that linux does |
| 21:44.23 | atoponce | dragonfly looks intriguing too |
| 21:44.24 | atoponce | i think all the distros i would be willing to try are: gentoo, debian, slackware, nexenta, opensolaris and dragonfly |
| 21:44.39 | synic | open is supposed to be the most secure. It was nice because I have a box that can't boot from a CDROM and you can install openbsd from a single floppy disk. |
| 21:45.00 | synic | (the rest is done via net) |
| 21:45.15 | atoponce | floppy? what's that? :) |
| 21:45.19 | synic | hehe :) |
| 21:45.41 | synic | I still have that machine. It's a webserver sitting next to me. p200 (not pro) with a whopping 32MB of ram |
| 21:45.47 | synic | currently running sarge |
| 21:45.57 | atoponce | i had a professor demand that assignments were turned in on floppies |
| 21:46.05 | synic | did you slap him? |
| 21:46.35 | atoponce | he was shocked when i told him that i don't own a computer with a floppy disk |
| 21:46.54 | synic | heh, had he heard of this new fangled thing called "email" ? |
| 21:48.14 | atoponce | i told him: "i can do other options. maybe you've heard of them? email, sftp, thumb drive, cdr... " |
| 21:48.52 | atoponce | that didn't turn out so well |
| 21:51.22 | synic | rofl |
| 21:52.14 | atoponce | i passed though. and that's what is important |
| 21:52.49 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: yeck, FC5. no |
| 21:52.53 | atoponce | the crazy thing is, that class was a couple years ago, and he still tells students to turn their programs in on floppies |
| 21:53.23 | atoponce | :) |
| 21:53.37 | atoponce | got rid of that did ya? |
| 21:54.03 | Kuyaedz | I did |
| 21:54.14 | Kuyaedz | anything other than Ubuntu just makes things more difficult |
| 21:54.54 | atoponce | agreed |
| 21:55.12 | atoponce | i have been getting the curious bug though |
| 21:56.29 | Kuyaedz | don't do it! |
| 21:56.47 | atoponce | hehe |
| 21:56.52 | Kuyaedz | after that whole episode with SuSe & FC5 I realize, yet again, that everyone else seems to just make things hard |
| 21:57.20 | atoponce | don't worry. i'm not interested in weak distros like FC or SuSE |
| 22:06.09 | atoponce | who is douge? |
| 22:06.28 | atoponce | he comes and leaves without saying anything |
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| 22:37.20 | atoponce | anyone know how to remove X from a production server without losing data / files? |
| 22:38.35 | synic | apt-get remove xserver-xorg xserver-common |
| 22:39.32 | atoponce | synic: 100% sure? |
| 22:39.58 | synic | yeah. that won't even remove the x configuration files |
| 22:40.37 | synic | what do you /need/ to be running on the machine? |
| 22:40.43 | atoponce | will that also remove anything depending on X? like gaim, firefox, etc? |
| 22:41.28 | atoponce | web server, database server, ssh server |
| 22:41.37 | atoponce | that's it, i think |
| 22:42.26 | Kuyaedz | if you dont NEED the HDD space you could just remove gdm. If you're mainly looking for saved resources that is a quick hack |
| 22:42.33 | synic | might need to get x11-common, libx11-6 as well |
| 22:43.35 | synic | Kuyaedz: ps, your how-to worked... my work machine just has a crappy video card, so it was crazy slow |
| 22:43.39 | atoponce | well, having X applications running on a production server opens the door for security holes |
| 22:44.01 | synic | atoponce: removing gdm will stop x applications from running automatically |
| 22:44.04 | atoponce | i should only be running what i *absolutely* have to |
| 22:44.25 | atoponce | i never use X anyway on it, and could use the extra ram |
| 22:45.14 | atoponce | gdm depends on X, so removing X should remove gdm? |
| 22:45.19 | synic | yes |
| 22:47.38 | Kuyaedz | removing gdm stops X from ever starting at all. |
| 22:47.43 | Kuyaedz | synic: thats good to know |
| 22:48.09 | atoponce | plus, i don't need all the apps either. |
| 22:48.10 | synic | Kuyaedz: gonna try it on my laptop with ati... I'll let you know how it goes |
| 22:48.53 | atoponce | it was hoary man. i didn't know any better then |
| 22:49.17 | atoponce | downloaded an iso, burned it and installed. |
| 22:50.54 | atoponce | although i think there was an option for a non-gui install in the cd. |
| 22:51.06 | atoponce | can't remember though |
| 22:51.16 | Kuyaedz | since at least Breezy I installed by typing "server" at the install prompt.. |
| 22:51.37 | Kuyaedz | ooh well. If you don't NEED the hard drive space afforded by removing those packages, just remove gdm/xdm/kdm & you should be fine |
| 22:52.26 | atoponce | it's not the space. i have plenty of that. it's the security and ram |
| 23:00.24 | atoponce | i think xserver-xorg and xserver-common are just meta packages |
| 23:00.54 | atoponce | like ubuntu-desktop |
| 23:01.19 | atoponce | it's not removing all the gui apps that it should be |
| 23:16.27 | atoponce | ohh the joys. i just lost apache2, php5 and mysql4- all of which i was running. at least all the config files and data is still there |
| 23:17.01 | atoponce | nope |
| 23:39.57 | Kuyaedz | oops |
| 23:40.43 | synic | new version of exaile folks.. get it while it's hot (and stuff): http://exaile.org/files/exaile_0.2b5_i386.deb |
| 23:43.37 | atoponce | i never want to be a network admin |
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| 23:44.52 | Kuyaedz | what did you end up removing to kill your server? |
| 23:45.23 | atoponce | you don't want to know |
| 23:45.39 | atoponce | http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde.php |
| 23:46.44 | atoponce | my server is so much faster now though |
| 23:46.54 | synic | whoa. |
| 23:47.08 | synic | yeah, config files stay unless you --purge |
| 23:47.10 | synic | which is a good thing :) |
| 23:47.35 | atoponce | luckily, i knew that |
| 23:47.46 | atoponce | question though, off topic |
| 23:48.09 | atoponce | freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect] requested CTCP VERSION from atoponce: |
| 23:48.14 | atoponce | how do i reply? |
| 23:48.25 | synic | your client usually auto replies |
| 23:48.35 | synic | 17:48 CTCP VERSION reply from atoponce: irssi v0.8.10 - running on Linux i686 |
| 23:48.44 | atoponce | after 301 seconds, i lose my connection because no reply |
| 23:49.02 | synic | o_O - it replied to me just fine |
| 23:49.22 | atoponce | how do you send? /ping <nick>? |
| 23:49.38 | synic | are you sure it's not booting you because you're not responding to ping? |
| 23:50.33 | atoponce | 17:37 Irssi: No PONG reply from server 10.40.40.40 in 301 seconds, disconnecting |
| 23:51.15 | synic | ah... that's the server's bad, not your client |
| 23:51.59 | atoponce | ahh. ok. i was a little confused |