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| 01:00.21 | atoponce | wow. that took a lot longer than i though |
| 01:00.28 | atoponce | s/though/thought/ |
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| 01:42.28 | mdirc | Hello to everyone!! This is my first post. I downloaded and installed the desktop version of ubuntu (6.0.6). I enabled remote desktop, now I need to connect to it using vnc viewer remotely. I used vncviewer and specified the server ip and the display 0 but I get the error - connection refused any idea? |
| 01:47.29 | Kuyaedz-work | are you inside the same LAN or external? |
| 01:47.37 | mdirc | 2. Does teh desktop version have an ssh server enabled? I tried connecting but I could not... |
| 01:48.14 | mdirc | on the same lan via vpn |
| 01:48.20 | Kuyaedz-work | none of the versions (as far as I know) have server installed/enabled by default |
| 01:48.33 | Kuyaedz-work | just install 'ssh' package & you should be set for ssh |
| 01:48.38 | mdirc | ok |
| 01:50.07 | mdirc | when I enable remote desktop it told me to use vncviewer xyz:0 to connect to it remotely (xyz is the domain name not bound to dns) |
| 01:50.48 | mdirc | but I used an ip address when connection using a remote instance of vncviewer, any idea what I am doing wrong? |
| 01:51.06 | Kuyaedz-work | when I use Remote Desktop inside the LAN I simply do "vncviewer IP" |
| 01:51.16 | mdirc | ok |
| 01:51.33 | Kuyaedz-work | I also have it setup for remote WAN connection, but at that level I specify a port. |
| 01:52.16 | mdirc | is there a default port the service runs on in ubuntu |
| 01:52.39 | Kuyaedz-work | 5900 I believe |
| 01:52.47 | mdirc | thanks |
| 01:53.30 | mdirc | I also tried installing server edition, I get a console, do I have to install X or I just need to start it on the server version |
| 01:54.03 | mdirc | I am trying to have the server edition boot into a graphical login screen |
| 01:54.13 | Kuyaedz-work | the server version is mainly for headless, non-gui installations (ie; I use it on my webservers). You can install the GUI on top if you'd like |
| 01:55.00 | mdirc | I should just use apt-get or synaptic to install it from the console? |
| 01:55.32 | maquis | mdirc: yeah... apt-get should work for that |
| 01:55.37 | Kuyaedz-work | basically, if you want gnome on top of your server install just use 'sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop'. If you want Xfce use 'sudo aptitude xubuntu-desktop' and if you'd like KDE use 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop' |
| 01:55.50 | maquis | mdirc: why did you use the server install? |
| 01:56.16 | Kuyaedz-work | maquis: I often use the server + Xfce on my notebook to keep things nice & lightweight. |
| 01:56.29 | Kuyaedz-work | ...at least I did a lot in the Breezy days & previous. |
| 01:56.46 | mdirc | actually I need to use the box as a server, but I need a basic gui |
| 01:57.02 | maquis | Kuyaedz-work: yeah... i use server because i dislike gnome (i use evilwm), but i'm just curious why he's using the server version... different people have different versions |
| 01:57.13 | maquis | (well, i used server for the month that i used ubuntu... |
| 01:57.19 | maquis | mdirc: how basic? |
| 01:58.53 | mdirc | well I need the browser, and be able to display java based GUIs |
| 01:59.33 | maquis | mdirc: you good with working from a command-line? |
| 01:59.43 | maquis | ie, do you need menus and icons and toolbars and such? |
| 02:00.03 | maquis | if you can do most stuff from the command-line, i'd suggest evilwm as a light-weight window-manager |
| 02:00.13 | maquis | it's the lightest i've found, at least |
| 02:00.24 | mdirc | if I have a way to acess the apps I would be fine, I am very comfortable at teh command line |
| 02:00.42 | maquis | mdirc: if you can start them from a command-line, you can use them... :) |
| 02:00.57 | maquis | mdirc: http://www.6809.org.uk/evilwm/ |
| 02:01.17 | mdirc | maquis: what is your opinion about xfce when compared to evilwm |
| 02:01.39 | maquis | mdirc: compared to evilwm, *everything* is heavy-weight :) |
| 02:01.58 | maquis | mdirc: here's some screenshots of evilwm from the uug website |
| 02:02.14 | atoponce | fluxbox is the way to go. so light, a whole distro with it fits on a 50mb cd |
| 02:02.17 | maquis | http://uug.byu.edu/view_screenshot.php?id=127 http://uug.byu.edu/view_screenshot.php?id=162 |
| 02:02.26 | maquis | atoponce: evilwm is 17K |
| 02:02.37 | atoponce | really? |
| 02:02.41 | maquis | yup |
| 02:02.56 | maquis | i've used it for about 2 years now :) |
| 02:03.11 | maquis | all it does is manage windows |
| 02:03.22 | atoponce | just a wm only? |
| 02:03.26 | maquis | no toolbars, no menus, doesn't even handle setting the background for you |
| 02:03.45 | atoponce | hehe. i know how you feel |
| 02:03.52 | maquis | i love it... |
| 02:03.55 | maquis | it's the greatest thing ever |
| 02:03.55 | atoponce | i love my fluxbox, but i have to make sacrifices |
| 02:03.59 | maquis | so simple |
| 02:04.03 | maquis | sacrifices? |
| 02:04.11 | atoponce | lightweight for ease of use |
| 02:04.30 | maquis | i just use other apps to handle the background... quite nice, because i scripted background-changing so it'll pick a random background every 10 minutes |
| 02:04.40 | atoponce | accessing menus, apps, options and such are a little less intuitive than say gnome or kde |
| 02:04.43 | mdirc | maquis: screenshots look good, I will give it a try |
| 02:04.55 | maquis | i honestly don't like menus, icons, toolbars, etc |
| 02:05.08 | maquis | so, it's the perfect wm for me :) |
| 02:05.14 | maquis | and it starts up like lightning :) |
| 02:05.39 | atoponce | what screen resolution are you running? |
| 02:05.52 | maquis | 1280x1024 |
| 02:06.36 | maquis | the first screenshot there isn't mine... the one with mac os6 is mine, though |
| 02:06.55 | atoponce | what are you running? xen? |
| 02:07.00 | maquis | nah |
| 02:07.03 | maquis | vmac |
| 02:07.07 | atoponce | ahh |
| 02:07.08 | atoponce | cool |
| 02:07.13 | maquis | i wanted to play dark castle |
| 02:07.22 | atoponce | hehe |
| 02:07.24 | mdirc | My monitor supports 1600 x 1200. The default desktop installation only allows me a maximum of 1280 X 768 using the "screen resolution preferences" utility. Is there a way to force the resoluton |
| 02:07.28 | maquis | finally got it installed and working (took about 2 weeks to get things right)... |
| 02:07.42 | maquis | and then realized that dark castle wasn't nearly as fun as i remembered it being |
| 02:07.48 | atoponce | mdirc: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 02:07.50 | maquis | (i was 4 or 5 the last time i played it) |
| 02:08.09 | atoponce | dark castle.... wasn't it a board game too? i think my dad had it |
| 02:08.20 | maquis | i dunno... i've only ever seen the computer game |
| 02:08.58 | mdirc | atoponce: can i do the same using synaptic? |
| 02:09.18 | mdirc | I cna definitley do it on the command line, but just curious |
| 02:09.35 | atoponce | mdirc: no. just pull up a terminal, and reconfigure your xorg. when you get to screen resolution, you can pick the sizes that work for your monitor |
| 02:10.17 | mdirc | ok |
| 02:11.52 | mdirc | suse has a specific way of managing the different version of Java installed, does ubuntu have any? or I can just install it and boot strap it through .bashrc |
| 02:12.31 | atoponce | i never deal with java, at least not much. but you should just be able to install, and manage as needed |
| 02:12.35 | maquis | suse has "special" ways of doing everything.... |
| 02:12.46 | atoponce | that's exactly why i left suse |
| 02:12.57 | mdirc | :) that's why I don't like SUSE |
| 02:13.07 | maquis | that's why i've never bothered trying it :) |
| 02:13.27 | atoponce | and another reason why i am not a fan of kde |
| 02:13.41 | atoponce | 300 different ways to opne yast and config centers, etc |
| 02:13.42 | maquis | lol |
| 02:13.52 | atoponce | s/opne/open/ |
| 02:14.01 | mdirc | thank you for all your help :), this should get me going for now... |
| 02:14.12 | atoponce | mdirc: you in utah, or just an ubuntu user? |
| 02:14.28 | maquis | mdirc: good luck! :) |
| 02:14.35 | mdirc | in salt lake city |
| 02:14.47 | atoponce | cool! welcome to the channel! |
| 02:14.51 | mdirc | thanks |
| 02:15.00 | atoponce | go to sllug meetings? |
| 02:15.24 | mdirc | sometimes |
| 02:15.44 | mdirc | I used to, but not recently |
| 02:15.47 | maquis | mdirc: if you're interested, there's also a #utah channel that has linux/bsd users from around the state.... |
| 02:16.01 | maquis | not ubuntu-specific, but it's also a fun channel :) |
| 02:16.07 | maquis | !geek |
| 02:16.08 | Dapper606 | You might be a geek if there are two magazines in front of you, the newest issue of PC Magazine and the other a porno. And you choose the PC mag over the porno. |
| 02:16.11 | mdirc | thanks, I will hop on that, I follow the mailing lists in the utah valley though |
| 02:16.22 | maquis | mdirc: which ones? |
| 02:16.50 | atoponce | there are plenty. :) |
| 02:16.55 | maquis | :) |
| 02:17.07 | maquis | we've got an insane number of users groups in utah |
| 02:17.19 | mdirc | sllug, uvlug |
| 02:17.26 | maquis | wasn't herlo saying he found 26 open-source-focused users groups in utah? |
| 02:17.32 | maquis | mdirc: ah... |
| 02:17.40 | atoponce | something like that |
| 02:17.46 | maquis | plug is a nice one for provo... |
| 02:18.07 | maquis | a bit higher traffic, and tends to get more flamish... |
| 02:18.10 | atoponce | there fslc in logan, oalug in ogden, plug, uvlug, byuuug... |
| 02:18.45 | maquis | uphpu, byurug, (the other utah ruby group), perl mongers... |
| 02:19.20 | maquis | utaug |
| 02:19.26 | atoponce | nunug, utah python |
| 02:19.36 | maquis | what's nunug? |
| 02:19.47 | atoponce | northern utah .net users group |
| 02:19.54 | maquis | oh.... |
| 02:20.02 | maquis | utwaa |
| 02:20.25 | atoponce | i am finally off work after 12 hours. catch ya later |
| 02:20.35 | maquis | yay! |
| 02:20.38 | maquis | have a nice evening |
| 02:21.01 | maquis | mdirc: the point is, we have a lot of users groups :) |
| 02:28.45 | mdirc | yep! thanks |
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| 14:24.11 | atoponce | !uptime |
| 14:24.12 | Dapper606 | Dapper606 has been up for: 2 week(s) 1 day(s) 23 hour(s) 51 minute(s) 50 second(s). |
| 14:24.17 | atoponce | ?? Dapper606 |
| 14:24.18 | Dapper606 | dapper606[1]: Ubuntu-Utah bot for maintaining tasks in the channel |
| 14:24.20 | Dapper606 | dapper606[2]: See my position in the Egghead contest: http://uptime.eggheads.org/?botnick=dapper606 |
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| 16:17.21 | maquis | Dapper606: you aren't supposed to lose your uptime right after announcing it |
| 16:17.32 | maquis | !uptime |
| 16:17.32 | Dapper606 | Dapper606 has been up for: 2 week(s) 2 day(s) 1 hour(s) 45 minute(s) 11 second(s). |
| 16:17.34 | Dapper606 | maquis: Some people are so concerned about uptime. I say, if you're not making any money from your uptime, who cares? |
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| 17:53.59 | atoponce | the firefox package from ubuntu is beginning to really get under my skin |
| 17:55.07 | atoponce | trully amazing! i can't even keep it running for 10 seconds |
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| 23:49.46 | Dapper606 | Why is a person who plays the piano called a pianist but a person that drives a race car is not called a racist? |