| 00:45.38 | atoponce | twysted: what client are you using? |
| 00:49.42 | twysted | mirc |
| 00:49.43 | twysted | " Warren Buffet , the world's second richest man, announced over the weekend that he will soon donate 85% of his entire net worth, weighing in at around $37 Billion, to charities, with over 80% of it going to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. This makes it the single largest monetary donation in history." |
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| 01:23.10 | twysted | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S89Y4shxtE |
| 01:23.15 | twysted | first comment |
| 01:23.18 | twysted | This could be the stupidest thing I have ever seen, and I work in politics. |
| 02:39.34 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Dapper606] by atoponce |
| 02:49.09 | atoponce | hahaha |
| 02:49.27 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: love your wife's leaving text |
| 03:18.25 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah herlo (n=herlo@64-126-19-66-typeII.everestkc.net) |
| 03:18.35 | herlo | herlo is now in Kansas |
| 03:18.47 | Kuyaedz | right on |
| 03:19.06 | herlo | FC5 wouldn't give me an ip address but ubuntu worked flawlessly |
| 03:19.14 | herlo | :-D |
| 03:19.22 | Kuyaedz | thats what I like to hear |
| 03:19.45 | herlo | I need to figure out why, I think the driver I have on fc5 is just buggy |
| 03:20.01 | Kuyaedz | herlo: so I started into the multi-boot on my notebook and after FC5 was installed the cdrw decided to die.. |
| 03:20.16 | Kuyaedz | so now I'm stuck with a single boot, with two empty partitions and unsupported wireless |
| 03:21.05 | herlo | haha |
| 03:21.20 | herlo | darned cdrw |
| 03:21.38 | herlo | well, I installed Ubuntu, had to rebuild grub and now I have two oses on my box |
| 03:21.41 | Kuyaedz | tell me about it.. right now I'm trying to install ubuntu to one of the partitions via debootstrap. <fingers crossed> |
| 03:21.48 | herlo | I rebuilt grub at the airport |
| 03:22.13 | herlo | you could do it via usb if it were bootable |
| 03:22.27 | herlo | man, I am tired |
| 03:22.37 | Kuyaedz | my notebook won't boot usb, optical is the only input & that is now dead.. |
| 03:22.50 | herlo | can't swap em either ey? |
| 03:23.31 | herlo | I also forgot my charger for my phone, which means I have to find a Best Buy or a Sprint store tomorrow |
| 03:25.13 | Kuyaedz | well if debootstrap wont work I'm going to go pickup a notebook > standard hdd adapter and just put it in my desktop |
| 03:25.54 | herlo | tomorrow? |
| 03:26.07 | Kuyaedz | tomorrow |
| 03:26.56 | *** join/#ubuntu-utah PickleE (n=PickleE@kuyaedz.fttp.xmission.com) |
| 03:27.29 | herlo | why are you in as PickleE? |
| 03:27.41 | HoneyShiv | i dunno |
| 03:27.41 | herlo | oh, hi HoneyShiv |
| 03:27.52 | herlo | howya feeling? |
| 03:27.54 | HoneyShiv | hello |
| 03:27.59 | HoneyShiv | fine:) |
| 03:28.02 | herlo | good |
| 03:28.08 | herlo | I was worried... |
| 03:28.12 | HoneyShiv | I was embarrassed- that's why we left so early |
| 03:28.39 | herlo | Kuyaedz, have you installed the krb5-config stuff before? |
| 03:29.04 | herlo | HoneyShiv: no need to be embarrassed, you should have stayed, I was gonna make breakfast |
| 03:29.45 | HoneyShiv | i heard- almost came back for it! |
| 03:29.56 | herlo | Chris and I had eggs w/spinach and sausage. I probably would've made pancakes too, but when its just him and I, too much work |
| 03:30.00 | herlo | well, maybe next time |
| 03:30.01 | Kuyaedz | herlo: krb5 isn't ringing a bell. what is it? |
| 03:30.22 | herlo | kerberos |
| 03:30.34 | herlo | http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/hoary/net/krb5-config |
| 03:30.50 | herlo | that's a page from hoary, I am trying to locate one for dapper that tells me what repo its in |
| 03:30.57 | herlo | so I can install it |
| 03:31.02 | HoneyShiv | herlo: you are quite a cook aren't you?! |
| 03:31.11 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I dig it |
| 03:31.28 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I wouldn't say I am a Joseph Hall or anything, but I can hold my own |
| 03:31.35 | HoneyShiv | ;) |
| 03:31.47 | herlo | HoneyShiv: you'll have to come over one Tuesday night when I break out the oil and make fish and chips |
| 03:32.03 | Kuyaedz | herlo: I just found it in my search. Want a copy of my sources.list? |
| 03:32.13 | HoneyShiv | herlo: that sounds like a plan to me! |
| 03:32.21 | herlo | Kuyaedz: sure |
| 03:32.34 | herlo | HoneyShiv: maybe in a month... |
| 03:32.52 | herlo | I think I am going to either be on the road, or it'll be a holiday between now and then |
| 03:33.31 | HoneyShiv | herlo: I have to wait a month? jk |
| 03:33.35 | HoneyShiv | sounds good |
| 03:33.40 | Kuyaedz | herlo: http://pastebin.ca/71765 |
| 03:34.01 | Kuyaedz | read the comments.. you may/may not want the XGL extra repos |
| 03:34.02 | herlo | Kuyaedz: should I just replace mine with yours? |
| 03:34.06 | HoneyShiv | herlo: where are you 2 going camping? |
| 03:34.11 | Kuyaedz | you could just replace, yeah |
| 03:34.36 | herlo | HoneyShiv: haven't figured that out yet, but if you guys wanted to tag along, that could possibly be arranged too, but no hanky panky |
| 03:34.46 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I want, I want the xgl |
| 03:35.19 | Kuyaedz | herlo: I can give you my tutorial link on my blog |
| 03:35.39 | Kuyaedz | ..although mine is for nVidia |
| 03:35.59 | HoneyShiv | herlo: well let us know |
| 03:36.19 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I am sure I can figure out the ATI stuff |
| 03:36.34 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I am planning on going Saturday night to Sunday afternoon |
| 03:36.45 | HoneyShiv | herlo: are you watching your show? |
| 03:36.50 | HoneyShiv | ok |
| 03:37.06 | herlo | Camping somewhere close to a road or what not, then doing a morning hike...heading home shortly after lunch |
| 03:37.16 | herlo | HoneyShiv: which show? 4400? |
| 03:37.25 | HoneyShiv | grey's... |
| 03:37.45 | HoneyShiv | herlo: you already have this planned out aih? |
| 03:37.58 | herlo | aih? |
| 03:38.04 | herlo | all in head? |
| 03:38.09 | Kuyaedz | herlo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI [ati instructions] |
| 03:38.11 | HoneyShiv | no... |
| 03:38.37 | Kuyaedz | herlo: after that is verified working you can use my tutorial, skipping the nvidia steps & it should work. |
| 03:38.42 | herlo | Kuyaedz: looks like I am missing a couple gpg keys |
| 03:38.43 | HoneyShiv | herlo:just sound it out... like the canadians... |
| 03:39.01 | herlo | ey? |
| 03:39.08 | HoneyShiv | ok yeah |
| 03:39.16 | HoneyShiv | I'm a dork |
| 03:39.17 | Kuyaedz | herlo: yeah, those outside XGL repos you don't have default keys for.. |
| 03:39.30 | herlo | HoneyShiv:okay, thought it was an acronym for something |
| 03:39.37 | herlo | Kuyaedz: how do I get them? |
| 03:40.59 | Kuyaedz | herlo: throw this into the CLI "wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -" |
| 03:42.00 | herlo | Kuyaedz: k, updating |
| 03:42.16 | herlo | HoneyShiv: you're not a dork any more than the rest of us |
| 03:43.54 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I was thinking of taking my son up to the high Uintas but it might be too cold so we might just go up into one of the Cottonwood Canyons, there's some cool waterfalls up there...and the hike would be tough but not to treacherous |
| 03:44.20 | herlo | Kuyaedz: worked, thx |
| 03:44.31 | HoneyShiv | that sounds like fun- |
| 03:44.51 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I don't plan on spending the time to get the xgl stuff working tonight, but probably before the end of the week... |
| 03:45.05 | HoneyShiv | herlo: has shaun ever been camping before? |
| 03:45.24 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I think Shaun will enjoy it immensely, yeah, we go quite a bit actually... |
| 03:45.51 | herlo | Kuyaedz: help for codecs and such? what was that link from before? |
| 03:46.08 | Kuyaedz | herlo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats |
| 03:46.48 | herlo | HoneyShiv: we went to the sand dunes the week before Easter so far this year. I plan on going at least two more times with him before the summers over |
| 03:46.55 | herlo | Kuyaedz: tx |
| 03:47.06 | Kuyaedz | herlo: that'll give you sound/video codecs. Also make sure to toss in w32codecs, libdvdcss2, sun-java5-bin, flashplugin-nonfree |
| 03:47.41 | HoneyShiv | herlo: my brother just came back from the dunes- had sand everywhere! |
| 03:47.53 | herlo | Kuyaedz: k, btw, I am assuming your repos already have access to those components |
| 03:48.10 | herlo | HoneyShiv: that's usually the case, but the 4-wheeling is a blast |
| 03:48.37 | Kuyaedz | herlo: yep. mine have everything you need |
| 03:48.55 | HoneyShiv | herlo: do you have a four wheeler? he just walked around and dug holes.. |
| 03:49.40 | herlo | HoneyShiv: no, but my brother/dad have 6 |
| 03:49.45 | HoneyShiv | wow |
| 03:49.53 | herlo | Kuyaedz: w32codecs not found |
| 03:50.11 | Kuyaedz | herlo: w32codecs and libdvdcss2 are in the seveas repo that I had commented. Just un-comment |
| 03:50.20 | herlo | ok |
| 03:51.08 | herlo | Kuyaedz: key for that repo? |
| 03:51.10 | Kuyaedz | herlo: I just use that repo to get those two packages at first-boot & then don't need it afterwards |
| 03:51.23 | herlo | I swear I can get a lot done over irc though, its great |
| 03:52.06 | Kuyaedz | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 1135D466 |
| 03:52.18 | Kuyaedz | gpg --export --armor 1135D466 | sudo apt-key add - |
| 03:53.48 | herlo | yay, downloading now |
| 03:54.08 | herlo | HoneyShiv: are you gonna come back and visit us soon? |
| 03:54.21 | herlo | HoneyShiv: or are we gonna have to come hunt you down...? |
| 03:54.27 | HoneyShiv | herlo: uhm....ok |
| 03:54.46 | herlo | HoneyShiv: unless you don't like us anymore |
| 03:54.51 | herlo | :-( |
| 03:55.06 | HoneyShiv | herlo: I mean I'll go back- I didn't do/say anything stupid... you even thought I was normal up until.. |
| 03:55.16 | HoneyShiv | I like you guys |
| 03:55.42 | herlo | even if I did call you names? |
| 03:56.03 | HoneyShiv | especially- |
| 03:56.06 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I still think your not normal, never thought otherwise... |
| 03:56.40 | herlo | HoneyShiv: normal is not what you want to be, IMHO |
| 03:56.53 | herlo | Kuyaedz: java is huge |
| 03:57.03 | HoneyShiv | what does IMHO mean? |
| 03:57.11 | herlo | In my Humble opinion |
| 03:57.16 | HoneyShiv | oh... |
| 03:57.29 | HoneyShiv | sounds good to me |
| 03:57.45 | herlo | HoneyShiv: http://www.solscape.com/chat/acronyms.html |
| 03:57.46 | Kuyaedz | herlo: java is big, yeah. sounds like you're going to have some other updates to do as well |
| 03:57.57 | Kuyaedz | hope you have a good connection there |
| 03:58.06 | herlo | Kuyaedz: that's okay, I am happy to update... |
| 03:58.47 | herlo | Kuyaedz: besides, it looks like I will be running ubuntu on this lappy until fc5 can get their act together and get a new kernel out. might have to wait for fc6 |
| 03:58.52 | Kuyaedz | herlo: I'm manually editing grub at MBR <fingers crossed>. the current Fedora (in /boot/grub/menu.list) lists root (hd0,0). What does that represent? |
| 03:59.09 | herlo | first hard drive first partition |
| 03:59.13 | herlo | 0,0 |
| 03:59.18 | Kuyaedz | herlo: I've got the 2.6.17-1 kernel on my FC5 box, 2.6.16-25 on ubuntu |
| 03:59.39 | Kuyaedz | herlo: I tried to set that in grub and it says device doesn't exit |
| 03:59.45 | HoneyShiv | thanks herlo |
| 03:59.47 | herlo | Kuyaedz: maybe I just need to update my kernel, I've got 2.6.16-1_2033 |
| 04:00.07 | herlo | HoneyShiv: anytime, its a helpful guid |
| 04:00.08 | herlo | e |
| 04:00.12 | Kuyaedz | herlo: from what I read FC5 came out with the kernel but I'm running into problems because the other repos haven't caught up |
| 04:00.12 | HoneyShiv | herlo: grey's anatomy is moving to Thursday night! |
| 04:00.26 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I think that's a good move |
| 04:00.53 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I think that would be a major problem for me, smp kernels are already hard to come by |
| 04:00.56 | HoneyShiv | herlo: only if I quit blockbuster... |
| 04:01.02 | Kuyaedz | herlo: after you've install the fun-stuff from the RestrictedFormats page make sure to do an 'apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade' |
| 04:01.18 | herlo | Kuyaedz: what you need to do for your grub is the following |
| 04:01.24 | herlo | setup (hd0,0) |
| 04:01.48 | herlo | kernel /vmlinuz-yourversion ro root=LABEL=/ |
| 04:01.52 | twysted | i hate grub |
| 04:02.00 | herlo | initrd /initrd-yourversion |
| 04:02.08 | herlo | .img |
| 04:02.17 | herlo | let me redo the initrd line |
| 04:02.25 | herlo | initrd /initrd-yourversion.img |
| 04:02.31 | herlo | then type boot |
| 04:02.37 | herlo | btw, you can use tab completion |
| 04:02.51 | herlo | after you've setup the hd |
| 04:03.04 | herlo | HoneyShiv: why would you wanna do that, then you lose all the cool benefits |
| 04:03.31 | herlo | btw, I watched most of Underworld: Evolution before falling asleep near the end |
| 04:03.34 | HoneyShiv | herlo: I don't like second jobs |
| 04:03.44 | herlo | HoneyShiv: no one likes them |
| 04:03.49 | HoneyShiv | yeah I watched part of it too |
| 04:04.07 | herlo | HoneyShiv: thought you might've |
| 04:04.24 | herlo | but I couldn't tell for sure, saw you sit up, then I heard snoring |
| 04:04.42 | HoneyShiv | herlo: snoring wasn't me I promise |
| 04:04.55 | herlo | HoneyShiv: admit it, you snore like a train |
| 04:05.02 | herlo | ;-) |
| 04:05.43 | HoneyShiv | herlo: I do not! you at least were able to go to bed- I had to stay with christer who was snoring and chris who snored on top of that! |
| 04:05.53 | Kuyaedz | Well I may have just hosed my machine.. let's hope this debootstrap worked |
| 04:06.13 | HoneyShiv | herlo: thanks for letting me wear your hat though |
| 04:06.26 | herlo | Kuyaedz: 65mb more of upgrade stuff |
| 04:06.28 | herlo | wow |
| 04:07.05 | herlo | Kuyaedz: It can be recovered |
| 04:07.31 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I like ballcaps, don't mind loaning them out as long as I am asked |
| 04:07.44 | Kuyaedz | herlo: looks like I didn't path the vmlinuz correctly.. go back into FC5 and get it right this time! |
| 04:08.01 | HoneyShiv | herlo: well I didn't exactly ask, but thanks anyway ;) |
| 04:08.13 | herlo | HoneyShiv: that was my point |
| 04:08.29 | herlo | Kuyaedz: yeah, you gotta make sure the vmlinuz and initrd match |
| 04:08.53 | herlo | Kuyaedz: sounds like you are really close |
| 04:09.21 | HoneyShiv | herlo: all I hear is... |
| 04:10.33 | herlo | Kuyaedz: Kerberos realm up and running |
| 04:10.46 | Kuyaedz | sweeeet |
| 04:10.49 | herlo | you know, we need to set one of those up between your place and ours...it'd be cool |
| 04:11.03 | Kuyaedz | herlo: if we can just get that VPN for otis.. |
| 04:11.06 | herlo | then we could securely transfer things without passwords and such |
| 04:11.28 | herlo | Kuyaedz: he doesn't need no stinking VPN, just needs Kerberors Realm |
| 04:11.33 | herlo | :-P |
| 04:13.18 | Kuyaedz | Hmm.. kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro single gives me File not found |
| 04:13.37 | Kuyaedz | swore I just double checked the path |
| 04:14.18 | herlo | Kuyaedz: kernel is not in /boot |
| 04:14.22 | herlo | that's assumed |
| 04:14.52 | herlo | when you do 'setup (hd0,0)' that points to /boot |
| 04:15.26 | Kuyaedz | ok |
| 04:18.42 | herlo | Kuyaedz: let me know what you get... |
| 04:18.49 | herlo | HoneyShiv: what do you hear? |
| 04:19.22 | Kuyaedz | hmm.. pointing to /vmlinuz and I'm still getting it. |
| 04:19.58 | Kuyaedz | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromKnoppix |
| 04:19.59 | HoneyShiv | herlo: it;s a saying from the tv show friends- "All I hear is blah blah blah..." |
| 04:20.03 | Kuyaedz | I'm basing this on that page |
| 04:20.50 | herlo | HoneyShiv: don't like Friends |
| 04:21.46 | HoneyShiv | oh.... well then it's a quote from my bro in law |
| 04:21.59 | herlo | Kuyaedz: right, so what partition does /boot reside? |
| 04:22.04 | herlo | HoneyShiv: don't believe you |
| 04:22.29 | HoneyShiv | you'll have to somehow meet him someday... he's a funny guy |
| 04:22.34 | Kuyaedz | well there is a /boot on the /hda1 for FC5 and also on in /mnt/ubuntu. |
| 04:22.50 | Kuyaedz | ./mnt/ubuntu is /dev/hda3 |
| 04:23.19 | herlo | Kuyaedz: and you are trying to rebuild fc5 or ubuntu? |
| 04:23.48 | Kuyaedz | I'm trying to add ubuntu via debootstrap. fc5 works fine, minus wireless |
| 04:25.43 | herlo | Kuyaedz: then you should run setup (hd0,2) |
| 04:26.05 | herlo | not sure why it isn't working |
| 04:26.14 | herlo | let me check my menu.lst |
| 04:27.25 | herlo | http://pastebin.ca/71790 is mine |
| 04:27.55 | herlo | Kuyaedz: HoneyShiv: I gotta hit the sack, I have to get up at 6:30am CDT |
| 04:28.20 | herlo | good night |
| 04:29.00 | HoneyShiv | sweet dreams |
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| 04:42.58 | twysted | oops |
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| 14:38.07 | HoneyShi1 | good morning |
| 14:40.40 | Kuyaedz | hi |
| 14:41.58 | HoneyShi1 | :) |
| 14:42.08 | HoneyShi1 | what are you up to Kuyaedz? |
| 14:46.02 | Kuyaedz | trying to get my dumb laptop to work again |
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| 14:53.37 | Kuyaedz | wow Tristan came back |
| 14:53.59 | HoneyShi1 | hello tristan |
| 15:06.37 | Kuyaedz | fingers crossed that ubuntu will install after this.. |
| 15:29.42 | Kuyaedz | realized I've been running the wrong kernel on my laptop all this time. |
| 15:29.50 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Kuyaedz] by ChanServ |
| 15:37.13 | Kuyaedz | might explain some of the little glitches I ran into :) |
| 15:39.12 | HoneyShiv | lol- did you change it to the right one? is everything running smoothly now? |
| 15:39.25 | Kuyaedz | still installing SUSE 10.1 |
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| 15:39.40 | Kuyaedz | ~lart herlo for not being in class |
| 15:39.41 | linuxalien | SuSE is sexy! |
| 15:40.34 | Kuyaedz | linuxalien: I'm trying to setup a multi-boot machine between FC5, SUSE10.1 & Ubuntu6.06 but my machine is falling apart. |
| 15:41.15 | linuxalien | I hope it starts working |
| 15:42.10 | herlo | ~rlart |
| 15:42.26 | herlo | Kuyaedz: I am in class, on break |
| 15:42.45 | herlo | ~lart Kuyaedz for thinking mean things |
| 15:43.18 | herlo | haha |
| 15:43.43 | Kuyaedz | I hope they update the ndiswrapper package for FC5 soon so I can actually use it |
| 15:55.55 | HoneyShiv | kuyaedz: in "stupid man" terms what does that mean? |
| 15:57.04 | Kuyaedz | HoneyShiv: ndiswrapper is the program that lets you use the windows driver for wireless. The current package isn't setup for the latest kernel so it doesn't work for me |
| 15:57.30 | HoneyShiv | thanks |
| 15:57.53 | Kuyaedz | ..unless I use the older kernel, but that's no fun |
| 15:59.57 | HoneyShiv | ~lart Kuyaedz |
| 16:00.09 | HoneyShiv | jbot: that was lame |
| 16:02.51 | HoneyShiv | dapper606: are you still a religious man? |
| 16:03.01 | Dapper606 | HoneyShiv: Pistos is The Man. |
| 16:04.33 | HoneyShiv | !insult everyone |
| 16:04.35 | Dapper606 | everyone: You pompous stack of dusky 7-bit byte! |
| 16:27.45 | HoneyShiv | kuyaedz: is it really that bad? |
| 16:28.26 | Kuyaedz | he's annoying |
| 16:29.07 | HoneyShiv | oh |
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| 16:37.38 | herlo | Kuyaedz: sorry for the mheathing you are recieving |
| 16:38.33 | HoneyShiv | herlo: how is your class going? |
| 16:39.55 | herlo | HoneyShiv: its going well, a little on the slim side of information, but tomorrow should be better |
| 16:40.37 | HoneyShiv | herlo: good |
| 16:40.50 | herlo | HoneyShiv: going to lunch, ttyl |
| 16:41.12 | HoneyShiv | bye |
| 17:01.53 | atoponce | JoeyDay: so did you get ubuntu working on your tablet? |
| 17:04.15 | JoeyDay | atoponce: I did indeed. |
| 17:04.18 | JoeyDay | Works like a charm, in fact. |
| 17:05.06 | Kuyaedz | sweet. I don't remember, what was the trouble was in Breezy? |
| 17:05.38 | atoponce | JoeyDay: dapper? |
| 17:05.54 | JoeyDay | Yep, Dapper. |
| 17:06.08 | JoeyDay | Kuyaedz: The problem with both Breezy and Dapper was partitioning my stubborn drive. |
| 17:06.22 | JoeyDay | I finally had to borrow a copy of PartitionMagic from my dad. |
| 17:06.43 | JoeyDay | GParted and QTParted refused to even touch my drive. |
| 17:06.50 | atoponce | do you have the screen working right (rotating and ink)? |
| 17:06.58 | JoeyDay | atoponce: Nah, baby steps. :) |
| 17:07.11 | JoeyDay | atoponce: I'm working on the tablet pen first. |
| 17:07.34 | JoeyDay | I don't even know if inking is possible in Linux, but if I can at least use it as a mouse I'll be happy. |
| 17:07.42 | JoeyDay | For now I'm just using it like a normal laptop. |
| 17:07.56 | atoponce | cool |
| 17:08.12 | JoeyDay | At this point, I'm happy it's logging onto my wireless networks at work and at home and that it'll play mp3's of my NTFS volume. |
| 17:08.18 | atoponce | if you get it working, you should document how you did it, and what steps you took |
| 17:08.28 | JoeyDay | s/mp3's of my/mp3's off my/ |
| 17:08.41 | JoeyDay | atoponce: For sure. |
| 17:09.13 | JoeyDay | I haven't been able to find anyone who got screen rotation working, but I found what appear to be some really simple steps on the Ubuntu wiki for getting the tablet pen working. |
| 17:09.53 | JoeyDay | Just haven't got around to trying them. I've been busy situating myself (between work and school). I've got all my Firefox extensions and bookmarks in place and have been working on Thunderbird. |
| 17:10.13 | JoeyDay | I want to get up to where I can survive at home without booting into Windows at all. |
| 17:10.34 | atoponce | sweet |
| 17:10.39 | JoeyDay | And right now I'm still checking my email in Windows, so once I get my Thunderbird setup out of the way I'll start work on the higher level stuff like the tablet pen. |
| 17:10.51 | atoponce | speaking of which, i really need to update my ultimate list of firefox extensions |
| 17:10.52 | Kuyaedz | I don't know why anyone uses another other than Ubuntu. I'm trying to figure out how to get updates for SUSE with YAST (bloated?), can't get wireless to work in SUSE or FC5 and why do I need a DVD to install an OS? |
| 17:10.55 | JoeyDay | Anyway, I absolutely love Ubuntu so far. |
| 17:11.10 | atoponce | cool |
| 17:11.12 | JoeyDay | Kuyaedz: I couldn't get wireless to work in Ubuntu. |
| 17:11.22 | Kuyaedz | JoeyDay: what chipset do you have? |
| 17:11.25 | JoeyDay | Oh, I was asking you guys about that the other day and I never gave you an update. |
| 17:11.36 | JoeyDay | One of you suggested NetworkManager, which I had downloaded. |
| 17:11.48 | Kuyaedz | I've got wireless working on every card I've tried. |
| 17:11.55 | JoeyDay | But I couldn't get that working until another friend of mine suggested I comment out everything in my /etc/network/interfaces file. |
| 17:11.58 | JoeyDay | That did the trick. |
| 17:12.19 | Kuyaedz | JoeyDay: ...I swear we told you to do that. maybe not |
| 17:12.34 | JoeyDay | I guess the built-in networking was grabbing up control of all the network interfaces and needed to be told to ignore them. |
| 17:13.06 | JoeyDay | Kuyaedz: You certainly might have told me that. I've been known to space out and not pay attention from time to time. |
| 17:13.17 | Kuyaedz | hehe |
| 17:13.23 | JoeyDay | The only thing I remember was trying to disable them from the tray icon. |
| 17:13.31 | JoeyDay | Is that what it's called? The notification panel? |
| 17:13.34 | Kuyaedz | JoeyDay: I would love to help you get your wireless working |
| 17:14.30 | JoeyDay | Kuyaedz: Well, it's all working fine now. NetworkManager is a beautiful thing once it is able to get control of the interfaces. |
| 17:15.02 | JoeyDay | It recognized my work network's WPA security without any fuss, and I've since switched my home wireless to WPA. |
| 17:15.17 | Kuyaedz | great |
| 17:15.28 | Kuyaedz | I love Ubuntu simplicity. |
| 17:15.40 | JoeyDay | Speaking of my home wireless... |
| 17:16.03 | JoeyDay | If you guys were visiting a friend, or just moved into a new apartment complex, and you were looking for a wireless access point... |
| 17:16.21 | JoeyDay | ...and you saw one called "jday.us/wifi" on the list, what would you do? |
| 17:16.51 | Kuyaedz | If I was just looking for wifi access I'd just use the first one that'd give me a connection.. |
| 17:18.19 | JoeyDay | But would you immediately recognize that as a web address? |
| 17:18.40 | JoeyDay | Granted, you wouldn't have a connection at that point, so you might have to look it up later... |
| 17:19.06 | JoeyDay | (Unless there was an unsecured hotspot that you could get connected to, and then maybe you wouldn't bother.) |
| 17:19.25 | Kuyaedz | I think I'd recognize it as a web address but lots of people name their essid lots of things.. wouldn't really care. I'm mainly just looking for a connection |
| 17:19.55 | Kuyaedz | if I was just moved in I might eventually look it up, but if I'm just lookin' for a quick wifi fix I mainly just want a connection |
| 17:20.41 | Kuyaedz | JoeyDay: I think you should include an email link on that page if you suggest sending an email :) |
| 17:21.00 | JoeyDay | Yeah, I was just fixing that. |
| 17:21.11 | JoeyDay | Fixed. |
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| 19:17.13 | JoeyDay | How hard is it to get wine running in Ubuntu? |
| 19:19.11 | Kuyaedz | I don't remember it being too hard but its been quite a while |
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| 19:28.02 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o atoponce] by ChanServ |
| 19:28.21 | *** mode/#ubuntu-utah [+o Dapper606] by atoponce |
| 19:28.35 | herlo | Kuyaedz: so how did you register this channel and get ChanServ in here |
| 19:30.06 | Kuyaedz | herlo: ...been a while |
| 19:30.38 | atoponce | herlo: i think you have to register the channel, and freenode puts it there |
| 19:30.52 | atoponce | i think it's done on the web, iirc |
| 19:31.06 | Kuyaedz | herlo: /join the channel you want to create, then use REGISTER |
| 19:31.14 | Kuyaedz | herlo: /msg chanserv HELP will give you some tips |
| 19:32.27 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: so you're beginning to know your way around irc it seems :) |
| 19:33.01 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: little bit better, yeah |
| 19:33.17 | Kuyaedz | almost time for me to take off for my interview |
| 19:33.25 | atoponce | with guru labs? |
| 19:34.48 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: Prosper. I should be getting an offer, and I'll take it. I'll just continue to pursue Guru on the side. |
| 19:35.58 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: the big-gurus at guru labs are out of town teaching this week, so we've scheduled for next. |
| 19:36.16 | atoponce | ahh. well, good luck |
| 19:38.11 | Kuyaedz | I think Guru would be a sweet job though :) |
| 19:38.18 | herlo | Kuyaedz: atoponce: thanx for the input |
| 19:38.42 | Kuyaedz | herlo: setting up utos? |
| 19:39.50 | HoneyShiv | atoponce: so I was corrected this weekend and sorry I've been spelling your name wrong;) but I got it now! |
| 19:40.05 | atoponce | it's ok |
| 19:40.23 | Kuyaedz | bbiab |
| 19:40.24 | atoponce | with a last name such as mine, i have seen all sorts of spellings, and it doesn't bother me |
| 19:40.38 | atoponce | ~wtf bbiab |
| 19:41.15 | HoneyShiv | atoponce: well I was spelling it and saying it- at o pounce... |
| 19:41.25 | HoneyShiv | it was funny |
| 19:41.34 | atoponce | :) |
| 19:43.28 | herlo | Kuyaedz: /join #utos |
| 19:43.35 | HoneyShiv | the massage lady is back today... The guys are literally starting a line for her! |
| 19:43.50 | herlo | HoneyShiv: at Prosper? |
| 19:43.54 | HoneyShiv | yeah |
| 19:44.09 | herlo | Kuyaedz: that's something we ain't got at GL |
| 19:44.25 | HoneyShiv | Herlo: I think he's left already.. |
| 19:44.43 | herlo | HoneyShiv: thx |
| 19:45.32 | HoneyShiv | herlo: just didn't want you talking to the wall again |
| 19:45.34 | HoneyShiv | ;) |
| 19:46.04 | atoponce | herlo: what is #utos for? (just curious) |
| 19:50.10 | synic | atoponce: hrmm, stpeter says it's in the userguide, but I'm not seeing it |
| 19:50.38 | herlo | atoponce: sure just join #utos and leave |
| 19:50.47 | herlo | ~lart atoponce for being a punk |
| 19:51.57 | HoneyShiv | herlo: you hurt his feelings |
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| 19:53.18 | atoponce | i gotta set an alias for '/quit' |
| 19:53.48 | atoponce | keep typing it, and irssi sends me all the way out |
| 19:54.21 | herlo | atoponce: yeah, I use gaim and it does the same thing |
| 19:54.56 | herlo | atoponce: #utos is for http://www.utos.org |
| 19:56.19 | herlo | atoponce: its something a few of us are working on, not anywhere near ready to announce to the public yet...just getting started... |
| 19:56.35 | atoponce | cool. i like the idea |
| 19:57.16 | herlo | atoponce: thanx, I hope to get it going better in the next few weeks, maybe get a good core crew and do it for years to come |
| 19:58.53 | herlo | atoponce: oh, and its gonna be free (hopefully always) |
| 19:59.02 | herlo | to attend |
| 19:59.13 | atoponce | that's good |
| 20:00.03 | herlo | of course, I'll have to get many sponsors so everything can be free |
| 20:00.27 | atoponce | i have a contact for novell |
| 20:00.46 | atoponce | they have sponsored some oalug install fests in the past |
| 20:04.00 | atoponce | we should have the utosp under that domain instead of openclue |
| 20:07.42 | HoneyShiv | herlo: question for you- would it be appropriate to send a thank you note to your boss that spoke with Christer on Friday or is it too soon for that? |
| 20:14.34 | linuxalien | work is over laters tators |
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| 20:16.55 | atoponce | synic: in gajim, i can set the priority manually |
| 20:17.38 | synic | that's usually how you're supposed to set it |
| 20:18.01 | synic | I don't think you can set it in Gaim, though |
| 20:18.02 | atoponce | so it is set to 5, but not sure what the other priority numbers are... |
| 20:18.35 | synic | atoponce: the actual number it's set to doesn't really matter. The message will be sent to the resource with the highest priority |
| 20:18.46 | synic | so your home box might be 2, your work 10, and your laptop 55 |
| 20:18.49 | synic | you can change it on the fly |
| 20:19.34 | atoponce | right, but which way is higher? towards 0 or away from it? |
| 20:19.49 | synic | ah, 1 is the lowest, 255 highest |
| 20:19.57 | synic | a negative number actually means something, but I can't remember what |
| 20:20.02 | atoponce | so 10 would take priority over 5? |
| 20:20.08 | synic | something like "don't ever send to this resource" |
| 20:20.13 | synic | atoponce: yeah |
| 20:20.48 | atoponce | seems counter intuitive to me. i would think 255 would be low and 0 high |
| 20:23.48 | atoponce | alright, set my '/quit' alias, let's see if it works... |
| 20:23.58 | atoponce | sweet. it does. |
| 20:39.43 | herlo | atoponce: cool |
| 20:40.15 | herlo | HoneyShiv: I'd wait until at least after an offer is sent |
| 20:40.23 | atoponce | now i have to type '//quit' to exit out, it i want |
| 20:40.31 | atoponce | s/it i want/if i want/ |
| 20:40.49 | HoneyShiv | herlo: ok - he asked me to check on that but it makes more sense to wait |
| 20:41.12 | herlo | atoponce: Novell would be a great sponsor, I will add it to the wiki to ask when we are ready to chase down sponsors... |
| 20:42.08 | atoponce | his name is carl malone (i'm serious). he's fairly geeky, but pretty cool. i have his email and cell if you want |
| 20:42.46 | herlo | I'll want it, maybe not yet, unless you wanna add it to the contacts list now? |
| 20:42.51 | herlo | I mean the wiki |
| 20:42.58 | herlo | http://plan.utos.org |
| 20:43.09 | herlo | add it anywhere |
| 20:43.17 | atoponce | eh, i can wait. no rush until it's ready |
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| 20:43.51 | atoponce | nm, no longer have his cell #. must've accidentally deleted it |
| 20:43.57 | herlo | k, tx |
| 20:50.02 | atoponce | synic: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/jabber/chapter/ch05.html#t2 <-- about jabber priorities |
| 20:50.33 | atoponce | pretty much everything you've already mentioned |
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| 21:20.05 | Kuyaedz | back |
| 21:20.34 | Kuyaedz | HoneyShiv: realized I forgot the checks at home so we'll just get to do it later! :) |
| 21:20.48 | HoneyShiv | did you go to the bank? |
| 21:21.16 | Kuyaedz | i was hungry first |
| 21:21.24 | HoneyShiv | oh... |
| 21:21.37 | Kuyaedz | i can't eat when I'm nervous so I haven't eaten today |
| 21:22.01 | HoneyShiv | I thought you said you weren't nervous ;) |
| 21:22.09 | Kuyaedz | pfft |
| 21:24.10 | HoneyShiv | still wanting Guru? |
| 21:25.54 | Kuyaedz | its a tough decision |
| 21:31.54 | HoneyShiv | yeah it is- but it's nice to have choice too |
| 21:39.23 | Kuyaedz | ~apt |
| 21:39.25 | jbot | it has been said that apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. an infobot, the same instance of a blootbot as ibot, jbot, and purl |
| 21:40.42 | Kuyaedz | ~jbot, no apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). APT is also known as the best package management system in existence today. |
| 21:40.43 | jbot | Kuyaedz: okay |
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| 21:44.15 | Kuyaedz | so, in case anyone was wondering I think YAST is even slower than yum.. |
| 21:45.00 | synic | that's scary |
| 21:46.07 | HoneyShi1 | is YAST with Suse? |
| 21:46.17 | Kuyaedz | yeah |
| 21:46.20 | HoneyShi1 | ok |
| 21:46.34 | HoneyShi1 | and YUm with Redhat? |
| 21:46.44 | Kuyaedz | yep.. and ubuntu/debian use apt |
| 21:46.48 | Kuyaedz | ~apt |
| 21:46.50 | jbot | extra, extra, read all about it, apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). APT is also known as the best package management system in existence today. |
| 21:46.56 | Kuyaedz | see, even jbot says apt is the best |
| 21:47.08 | HoneyShi1 | lol |
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| 21:58.18 | Kuyaedz | HoneyShi1: now you can /Nick <name> again |
| 22:04.08 | Kuyaedz | atoponce: Is there a 'minimize to systray' option for thunderbird (or plugin perhaps?) |
| 22:27.16 | atoponce | Kuyaedz: i am not aware of one off hand |
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| 22:46.35 | atoponce | if you find one, though, let me know. |
| 22:46.53 | atoponce | i haven't thought about that before and think it would be pretty cool |