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| 02:19.50 | Zelut | Yorokobi: ping |
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| 03:52.58 | bretticus | greeting earthlings |
| 03:53.04 | bretticus | :) |
| 03:54.15 | eightyeight | do you come in peace? |
| 03:57.55 | bretticus | when I'm in a good mood :) are there really 24 users in here? All quiet? Or is there some tv show I'm missing? |
| 03:59.11 | eightyeight | it is 10pm |
| 03:59.14 | bretticus | I guess Heors was on last night, so I didn't miss that! :) |
| 03:59.22 | bretticus | Yep, just news now |
| 03:59.32 | eightyeight | news and bed |
| 03:59.55 | bretticus | Or wasting time on the Internets :) |
| 04:00.34 | bretticus | So I was just perusing the forums again. Do we ever get other (fellow) southern utahns in here any more? |
| 04:01.02 | eightyeight | man. i need to setup a git server over ssh, redmine and apt-mirror no my main server, and i am just not in the mood |
| 04:01.11 | eightyeight | not usually |
| 04:02.04 | bretticus | i see. oh well. git, redmine, and apt-mirror. business or pleasure (sounds more liek business)? |
| 04:02.14 | eightyeight | pleasure |
| 04:02.17 | bretticus | ha! |
| 04:02.34 | eightyeight | git and redmine for tracking rc and conf files, as well as presonal projects |
| 04:02.48 | eightyeight | apt-mirror for getting hardy and intrepid mirrored for the install fest coming this saturday |
| 04:02.56 | eightyeight | er, saturday after next |
| 04:02.59 | bretticus | ah yes, new version coming soon |
| 04:03.32 | bretticus | Will your mirror be globally accessible? |
| 04:04.07 | bretticus | Actually, I just grabbed the bit-torrent last time, wasn't too bad. |
| 04:04.30 | eightyeight | no. just local |
| 04:04.54 | bretticus | I have never thought of using version software for config files. Then again, I have never administered a ton of linux boxen either. |
| 04:05.05 | eightyeight | well, i look at it this way: |
| 04:05.33 | eightyeight | i reinstall my laptop from time-to-time, and rather than scp the files i need over, i'll just check out the latest version, and i'm done. :) |
| 04:06.25 | bretticus | yeah, great idea. no doubt |
| 04:06.34 | bretticus | I think I'm inspired. :) |
| 04:06.40 | eightyeight | further, i can make sure all the other boxen on my network have the latest version |
| 04:06.55 | bretticus | So does git work for you better than say, svn, for that, or just personal pref? |
| 04:07.54 | eightyeight | i don't mind either. i've used both, and like both. git offers 100% self-containment, which svn doesn't |
| 04:08.04 | bretticus | gotcha |
| 04:08.10 | eightyeight | also, we use git at work, so might as well git more familiar with it |
| 04:08.12 | bretticus | I am an old svn user :) |
| 04:08.24 | bretticus | Haven't "tried" git |
| 04:08.37 | eightyeight | i debated bzr too, as it's the ubuntu way |
| 04:08.52 | bretticus | I have one web developent project that is on a 3rd party server so I use subversion. works for just me and one other developer :) |
| 04:09.21 | bretticus | bzr, nowm there's one I haven't even heard of (time to google.) |
| 04:10.17 | bretticus | hmmmm....looks cool. Have you used it before? or just considered? |
| 04:12.23 | eightyeight | i haven't used it. just considered. if you use launchpad at all for your projects, they use it |
| 04:13.26 | bretticus | I see. So, I am an irregular psuedo-ubuntu utah member. I would probably participate better if I lived up north... |
| 04:13.31 | bretticus | ...just wondering... |
| 04:13.44 | bretticus | Does Ubuntu Utah have contributors to Ubuntu? |
| 04:13.57 | eightyeight | you bet |
| 04:14.02 | bretticus | very cool |
| 04:14.04 | eightyeight | synic is the lead dev for exaile |
| 04:14.10 | bretticus | Including you perhaps? |
| 04:14.21 | eightyeight | many of use contribute on the forums, mailing lists, irc and other areas |
| 04:14.52 | bretticus | lead dev for ubuntu or the original author? |
| 04:14.59 | bretticus | that is cool btw |
| 04:15.05 | eightyeight | http://exaile.org |
| 04:15.30 | Zelut | I've got two apps in 8.10 that I wrote |
| 04:15.41 | Zelut | ..well one of them is more of a plugin to an app, but its got my name on it ;) |
| 04:16.30 | bretticus | Excellent. Thanks ppl. I'm more of a script kiddy (PHP development for Websites mostly.) |
| 04:17.11 | bretticus | I really need to learn c++ though |
| 04:17.16 | bretticus | Almost bought a book today :) |
| 04:17.37 | bretticus | I took a Ubuntu hiatus for awhile (don't kick me!)... |
| 04:18.00 | bretticus | Started working from home and needed Skype and all my sound cards, apps, workign without headaches. |
| 04:18.59 | bretticus | Now, I'm no Linux guru, but I did have several headaches with sound. Pulse is better. Hoping it all gets better over time. |
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| 05:41.27 | bretticus | time |
| 13:02.38 | undertakingyou | morning ubuntu-utah |
| 13:08.24 | Yorokobi | Zelut, pong |
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| 14:17.43 | Zelut | Yorokobi: messing with freebsd in a VM. I think I figured out ports, but the auto-partitioner only gave me 24M swap and compiles are choking due to the lack of resources. |
| 14:21.59 | Yorokobi | Zelut, use packages instead of ports whenever possible |
| 14:22.12 | Yorokobi | as for the small swap, blame the auto-partitioner |
| 14:22.30 | Zelut | Yorokobi: pkg_add vs /usr/ports/foo/bar; make install clean ? |
| 14:23.00 | Yorokobi | no need to make anything with pkg_add |
| 14:23.15 | Yorokobi | pkg_add is like apt-get |
| 14:24.12 | Zelut | so its the difference between a source package to be compiled and a binary package ready to go? |
| 14:24.16 | Yorokobi | yep |
| 14:24.50 | Yorokobi | unless there's something in ports that isn't in packages or you want to compile your own kernel, ports isn't strictly necessary |
| 14:25.03 | Zelut | ok. reading through the docs last nite I didn't catch that distinction |
| 14:26.13 | Zelut | hmm, I'm not finding things with pkg_add that I would think would be available.. like bash |
| 14:26.35 | Yorokobi | bash is available |
| 14:26.48 | Yorokobi | why you'd use it over the default shell though ... ? :) |
| 14:28.19 | Zelut | hmm.. I'm going to reinstall this and partition it manually. |
| 14:30.08 | Yorokobi | bash-3.2.39_1.tbz and bash-completion-20060301_3.tbz |
| 14:30.33 | Yorokobi | ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages/All/ |
| 14:34.09 | Zelut | and I guess, particularly in a VM, compiling from ports isn't going to give me much of a performance increase anyhow |
| 14:40.35 | Yorokobi | there isn't any performance increase anyway |
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| 15:18.08 | Zelut | Yorokobi: 'pkg_add bash' - cannot state package file 'bash' |
| 15:18.17 | Zelut | *stat |
| 15:27.36 | Zelut | n/m. pkg_add -r foo works |
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| 20:03.21 | Zelut | Yorokobi: any idea how to specifically install ff 3.x with pkg_add? |
| 20:04.08 | herlo | Zelut: that looks very similar to Solaris' pkgadd command |
| 20:04.16 | Yorokobi | I'd have to look |
| 20:04.53 | Yorokobi | Zelut, pkg_add can take the full name of the package if 'firefox' refers to v2 |
| 20:05.40 | Zelut | Yorokobi: trying a bunch of different variations and its just not matching.. |
| 20:05.50 | Zelut | http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=firefox-3.0&stype=name&sektion=all |
| 20:06.18 | eightyeight | maquis might know |
| 20:06.36 | eightyeight | iirc, she's a big bsd fan |
| 20:06.46 | Zelut | maquis: are you still here? |
| 20:06.56 | eightyeight | ~seen maquis |
| 20:07.00 | jbot | maquis is currently on #utos (1h 1m 11s) #utah (1h 1m 11s) #ubuntu-us-ut (1h 1m 11s), last said: 'hmm... people didn't seem to match my tastes too well'. |
| 20:07.21 | Yorokobi | It has been a while since I did anything with FreeBSD on a machine that's fast enough for X |
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