| 02:36.42 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: ping |
| 04:28.51 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: pong |
| 04:28.56 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: I saw the PM. |
| 04:29.21 | Zelut | undertakingyou: from your posts I think you're learning what you already knew. |
| 04:36.19 | undertakingyou | Zelut: what's that (even though I think that I know.) |
| 04:40.21 | Zelut | undertakingyou: that, despite its issues, its not getting any better than ubuntu. |
| 04:46.03 | undertakingyou | Zelut: it is true. I have a blogpost to put up about OpenSUSE too. |
| 04:46.08 | undertakingyou | It doesn't look better. |
| 04:46.30 | undertakingyou | Yes, I am thinking of using macos until Intrepid's release. |
| 04:47.09 | Zelut | I've tried every distro with every new release.. it just doesn't get any better. |
| 04:47.28 | Zelut | I've got OSX on my macbook and ubuntu on the rest of my machines. |
| 04:47.45 | undertakingyou | I have been really surprised about how hard it has been to get stuff working with other distro's. |
| 04:48.06 | undertakingyou | ubuntu stuff just worked really really really well. And with little extra work. |
| 04:48.51 | Zelut | i think fedora made things _more_ difficult in 9. anyone using fedora at my work stuck with 8. |
| 04:49.08 | undertakingyou | really? Even herlo ? |
| 04:49.28 | undertakingyou | I got so mad at fedora on the macbook I went to opensuse to try it. |
| 04:49.31 | Zelut | I don't work with herlo anymore. |
| 04:49.54 | undertakingyou | I have had to install it 4 times and still can't get the xorg right. |
| 04:50.00 | undertakingyou | Zelut: oh yeah. I forgot. |
| 04:50.02 | Zelut | I'm sure herlo will argue the point with me, but I wasn't impressed with 9. |
| 04:50.49 | undertakingyou | I have had little issues. It is still on the desktop, but that is because I am tired of installing. |
| 04:50.54 | undertakingyou | I need an installing break. |
| 04:50.55 | Zelut | I really like the network manager improvements in 8.10. also the kernel support for atheros is nice for my macbook & eeepc. |
| 04:51.35 | undertakingyou | with intrepid do you know if it has both the ath5k AND the ath9k kernel modules? |
| 04:52.02 | Zelut | i know my eeepc is using the ath5k out of the box.. haven't looked for 9k. |
| 04:52.21 | undertakingyou | My MBP requires the ath9k. |
| 04:52.28 | undertakingyou | That or madwifi SVN. |
| 04:52.37 | herlo | ubuntu sucked it up in 8.04 too, its not like the comparisons aren't unfair |
| 04:53.00 | Zelut | undertakingyou: told ya ;) |
| 04:53.03 | herlo | my argument is that its Linux, I don't really care what you use... |
| 04:53.07 | undertakingyou | herlo: true. There were a lot of things that for an LTS were lacking. |
| 04:53.11 | undertakingyou | Zelut: :) |
| 04:53.34 | undertakingyou | but for a distro it was another release. |
| 04:53.38 | herlo | if you don't like Linux that's one thing, but if you don't like Fedora I'm happy you are using free software :) |
| 04:54.02 | undertakingyou | yeah, we are all happy! |
| 04:54.37 | fizz | happy not using fedora. |
| 04:54.41 | fizz | that'd be me |
| 04:54.48 | undertakingyou | lol |
| 04:54.49 | fizz | :) |
| 04:54.53 | undertakingyou | nice fizz |
| 04:55.37 | fizz | i'd be even happier if ubuntu worked on my laptop. |
| 04:55.50 | fizz | well... to be fair the nvidia drivers are the isue |
| 04:55.57 | fizz | *issue |
| 04:56.25 | Zelut | I installed 8.04.1 and 8.10 on the dell latitude D630 they gave me for work and everything works out of the box. |
| 04:56.34 | fizz | nice |
| 04:56.57 | Zelut | I haven't had to tweak anything. just installed my packages and was done. |
| 04:57.29 | fizz | my asus with the nvidia 8600gs m will not work |
| 04:57.43 | undertakingyou | fizz: I have had great success with using the nvidia source drivers from nvidia's site. |
| 04:57.46 | fizz | all distros across the board i have only seen problems on this laptop |
| 04:57.59 | fizz | i tried those too |
| 04:58.05 | fizz | :\ |
| 04:58.11 | Zelut | I'm glad this has intel wireless and video. |
| 04:58.12 | undertakingyou | sad face. |
| 04:58.49 | undertakingyou | yeah, there is some advantage to that. I am seeing that now. |
| 05:35.51 | herlo | I'd like to say that Linux, with all of its faults, is still better than that non-free alternative we used to use... In fact, It's my opinion that Linux is better than just about any other operating system out there |
| 05:36.02 | herlo | today |
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