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| 02:10.34 | clutchm1 | encryptz: buzz |
| 02:22.40 | encryptz | clutchm1: bazz? |
| 02:24.48 | encryptz | at the airport. just about to board |
| 02:27.56 | clutchm1 | encryptz: I just wanted to let you know that the local team is added, check it out at http://www.dollars2computers.com/content/partners.html |
| 02:28.43 | clutchm1 | if there is any other information about the team or what it does you want listed just let me know and I'll make the changes |
| 03:37.53 | Sir_Brizz | any of you guys looking for old computers for that machine donation thing? |
| 03:38.00 | Sir_Brizz | other than Heartsbane |
| 03:38.02 | Sir_Brizz | :p |
| 03:46.43 | Heartsbane | :) |
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| 04:48.01 | encryptz | Sir_Brizz: which computer donation thing? i think there may be more than one going on |
| 04:48.31 | Sir_Brizz | I have no idea |
| 04:48.39 | Sir_Brizz | I just have a P3 667 that I can't seem to rid myself of |
| 04:49.28 | encryptz | ahh. well the team is looking to build a shell server for everyone to have access to |
| 04:49.57 | encryptz | i think we've got a great deal of it donated though |
| 04:53.26 | Sir_Brizz | yeah my machine wouldn't be good for that |
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| 17:35.51 | mheath | Grr |
| 17:36.08 | mheath | Why does Ubuntu require MORe than 64MB of RAM for desktop effects if using NVidia? |
| 17:36.14 | mheath | It's a hardcoded limit |
| 17:36.28 | mheath | As far as I can tell, if you go around this and roce things manually, it'll work fine on my card. |
| 17:36.46 | mheath | Ubuntu's automaticness is convinced it doesn't, though, and provides no easy way to override. |
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| 17:56.12 | bmac2 | hey guys |
| 17:56.42 | fizz | g'day |
| 17:58.12 | fizz | encryptz: ping |
| 18:01.13 | encryptz | fizz: pong |
| 18:02.06 | fizz | encryptz: when are you going to be in SLC again? i want to snag some more x86 desktop cds from you. i gave out the ones i grabbed last time. |
| 18:02.32 | encryptz | next week and the week following |
| 18:03.34 | fizz | cool. i was thinking we should get a little move on the server parts drive soon too. i'm going to be snagging some more parts for it this weekend. |
| 18:03.46 | encryptz | cool |
| 18:03.50 | encryptz | what do you have so far? |
| 18:04.11 | fizz | main board, 2gb ram, 2 opterons. |
| 18:04.23 | encryptz | and we need? |
| 18:04.41 | encryptz | power supply, box, cd/dvd-rom, hdd? |
| 18:05.07 | fizz | cpu coolers(which i am getting this weekend), case, PSU, optical drive, hdds |
| 18:05.10 | fizz | yep |
| 18:05.19 | fizz | and moar ram |
| 18:05.26 | fizz | which i should have resolved this weekend |
| 18:05.33 | fizz | we should be up to at least 4gb |
| 18:05.55 | bmac2 | not sure if you want to run them, but I have 2 compaq raid arrays |
| 18:06.04 | bmac2 | with the compaq raid array cards |
| 18:06.13 | bmac2 | holds 7 scsi drives each |
| 18:06.17 | bmac2 | not using them |
| 18:06.28 | encryptz | bmac2: nice. you wouldn't mind donating these? |
| 18:06.33 | bmac2 | nope |
| 18:06.35 | bmac2 | not at all |
| 18:06.37 | bmac2 | not using them |
| 18:06.37 | encryptz | we should definetly take advantage of raid |
| 18:06.38 | fizz | score! |
| 18:06.47 | encryptz | bmac2: cool. thx man. that rocks! |
| 18:06.48 | bmac2 | I think I have 3 of the compaq array cards |
| 18:06.57 | bmac2 | they are the cmparray driver ones |
| 18:07.02 | encryptz | pci? |
| 18:07.05 | bmac2 | yep |
| 18:07.15 | bmac2 | big LONG full length cards |
| 18:07.23 | bmac2 | with the processors on them |
| 18:07.26 | bmac2 | nice cards |
| 18:07.29 | encryptz | fizz: what board size? ATX? |
| 18:07.37 | fizz | SSI EBB 3.5 |
| 18:07.44 | bmac2 | they are just taking up space in my rack in my basement |
| 18:07.51 | fizz | 12"x13" |
| 18:07.57 | bmac2 | do we need a tape backup drive? |
| 18:07.58 | encryptz | fizz: so, 1U then? |
| 18:08.12 | bmac2 | pulls out his assortment of parts |
| 18:08.19 | fizz | that form factor fits best in 4U or pedestal cases. |
| 18:08.21 | encryptz | bmac2: hmm. we definitely need a backup solution. not sure what to do about that though |
| 18:08.33 | bmac2 | I have like 4 tape drives |
| 18:08.34 | bmac2 | lol |
| 18:08.41 | fizz | the 1U cases for it are pricey. |
| 18:08.44 | encryptz | fizz: so you're saying we need a 4U case? |
| 18:09.01 | fizz | not need. it would just be cheaper (hardware wise) |
| 18:09.08 | encryptz | ahh. ok |
| 18:09.26 | bmac2 | i have a nice external tape backup |
| 18:09.39 | bmac2 | I think it does 40/80 gig tapes |
| 18:09.49 | bmac2 | and a scsi card to drive it |
| 18:09.55 | bmac2 | what else you need? |
| 18:10.09 | bmac2 | what type of memory does this board take? |
| 18:10.14 | fizz | pc3200 |
| 18:10.28 | bmac2 | damn |
| 18:10.49 | bmac2 | I have a brand new stick of PC2-5300 1 gig sitting on my desk |
| 18:10.53 | fizz | it hold up to 8gb, i have 4 1/2 gig sticks right now. |
| 18:11.02 | bmac2 | fits a compaq server |
| 18:11.40 | bmac2 | you need to understand, I am a packrat |
| 18:11.46 | bmac2 | with a huge basement to rathole stuff |
| 18:12.05 | bmac2 | I have a cd drive for the server |
| 18:12.06 | fizz | this mainboard can do SLI... it has dual pcie16x |
| 18:12.14 | bmac2 | lol fizz |
| 18:12.19 | bmac2 | isn't that wasted on a server? |
| 18:12.38 | fizz | heh, kinda, but i have no idea what else i would use it for. |
| 18:12.46 | bmac2 | that is a nicer board that I am running on my desktops |
| 18:13.11 | bmac2 | as soon as I get back to working I need new hardware |
| 18:13.58 | bmac2 | got a question for everyone on k / ubuntu |
| 18:14.12 | bmac2 | I have a dell poweredge server |
| 18:14.30 | bmac2 | dual xeon processors, 2450 model. |
| 18:15.02 | bmac2 | there is a known bug with some dual machines that during the bootup with ANY version of ubuntu, it fails to boot with a squashfs error |
| 18:15.12 | bmac2 | I find all kinds of discussions of it online |
| 18:15.17 | bmac2 | tons of talk |
| 18:15.27 | bmac2 | and mention of a "fix" or workaround a thousand times |
| 18:15.34 | bmac2 | but NO WHERE can I find what the fix is |
| 18:15.40 | bmac2 | HELP!!!! |
| 18:16.03 | bmac2 | I need kubuntu on this server as it is my core server for my house |
| 18:16.23 | bmac2 | and it has to be kubuntu because of what I run on it |
| 18:23.08 | encryptz | bmac2: can't you install just ubuntu-server, then install the kubuntu-desktop package? |
| 18:23.37 | bmac2 | nope |
| 18:23.47 | bmac2 | I can NOT boot ANY ubuntu disk |
| 18:23.50 | bmac2 | without the error |
| 18:23.59 | bmac2 | seems it is an error with the kernel/livecd |
| 18:24.14 | bmac2 | I can install slackware, freebsd, any OTHER distro |
| 18:24.15 | bmac2 | fine |
| 18:24.22 | bmac2 | just not ANY ubuntu based distro |
| 18:29.14 | Yorokobi | why do you need KDE on a server? |
| 18:29.49 | bmac2 | I run linuxmce |
| 18:29.57 | bmac2 | the open source project I work on |
| 18:30.04 | bmac2 | doesn't use kde per say |
| 18:30.12 | bmac2 | but it is installed ON only kubuntu |
| 18:30.18 | bmac2 | don't ask me why they chose that |
| 18:30.20 | bmac2 | but they did |
| 18:30.30 | Yorokobi | They should branch out |
| 18:30.34 | encryptz | bmac2: this may not be the answer you're looking for, but i would recommend debian for a server actually. ubuntu for just desktops/laptops |
| 18:30.34 | bmac2 | we are |
| 18:30.49 | bmac2 | but we are still cleaning code |
| 18:30.57 | bmac2 | we inherited the code from pluto@home |
| 18:31.01 | tapH20guru | boo encryptz! |
| 18:31.04 | Yorokobi | Every *nix has KDE, it shouldn't be distro-specific |
| 18:31.05 | tapH20guru | ducks |
| 18:31.15 | bmac2 | they donated their code to open source |
| 18:31.20 | bmac2 | we are cleaning up the mess |
| 18:31.29 | bmac2 | system works great |
| 18:31.43 | bmac2 | we just don't have it to the point of packaged yet |
| 18:31.55 | bmac2 | once we make packaged, then it will be install on any linux |
| 18:31.57 | bmac2 | BUT |
| 18:32.14 | bmac2 | we are at least a year from there because of the HUGE codebase we inherited |
| 18:32.31 | bmac2 | not to say the least some of the weird coding we found |
| 18:33.05 | encryptz | tapH20guru: :) |
| 18:33.28 | tapH20guru | boy - i sure must be crazy - I run ubuntu on all my server here at work :) |
| 18:33.53 | Yorokobi | Yep, you're crazy. |
| 18:34.13 | tapH20guru | knew there was something wrong |
| 18:34.24 | encryptz | i have found more cleanliness on a debian testing or debian stable server than ubuntu, albeit, with more config needed that is |
| 18:34.35 | tapH20guru | ubuntu just never came up in therapy... I should have known |
| 18:34.44 | encryptz | however, i've also found it freakishly stable, which i just can't say about an ubuntu server |
| 18:35.01 | tapH20guru | ohh... fighting words |
| 18:35.17 | tapH20guru | actually i don't really know.. just never had issues with ubuntu |
| 18:35.26 | encryptz | i would dare say (picking on Yorokobi) that debian stable is more stable than openbsd |
| 18:35.36 | encryptz | ducks |
| 18:35.49 | Yorokobi | Water off a duck's back, encryptz |
| 18:35.54 | encryptz | heh |
| 18:36.01 | encryptz | that's no fun |
| 18:36.14 | bmac2 | but it is not an error that happens with EVERY dual processor machine |
| 18:36.15 | bmac2 | only some |
| 18:36.24 | fizz | is anyone in here doing anything for st patty's day? |
| 18:36.41 | encryptz | bmac2: seems to me that you need a kernel option on boot to support multi-processors |
| 18:36.44 | Yorokobi | might be going to MacCool's for dinner. |
| 18:36.46 | tapH20guru | shoulda burned green ubuntu cds to hand out |
| 18:36.51 | encryptz | used to be an issue with dual core also, iirc |
| 18:37.07 | bmac2 | no I need to kill the second processor on boot |
| 18:37.24 | bmac2 | the default kernel on the cds is now a SMP kernel |
| 18:37.28 | encryptz | sure it's not as sms-something-or-other option? |
| 18:37.32 | encryptz | s/sms/smp/ |
| 18:37.34 | Yorokobi | bmac2, have you tried the Hardy alpha install CDs? |
| 18:37.46 | bmac2 | 7.10 ? |
| 18:37.50 | Yorokobi | 8.04 |
| 18:37.52 | bmac2 | nope |
| 18:37.58 | Yorokobi | alpha 6 now, iirc |
| 18:38.04 | bmac2 | I have to run specifically 7.10 |
| 18:38.13 | bmac2 | we are right now working on the 8.04 version |
| 18:38.43 | encryptz | bmac2: have you tried #ubuntu? i wonder if anyone there would know? |
| 18:38.53 | Yorokobi | heh ... install Kubuntu 7.10 on a laptop and stick it in the server rack |
| 18:39.23 | encryptz | Yorokobi: laptops make great servers. they have a built-in ups |
| 18:39.25 | bmac2 | I tried #ubuntu and #kubuntu |
| 18:40.18 | Yorokobi | encryptz, indeed, so long as they don't have to do a lot of i/o bound processing over long periods of time. Of course, 2.5" drives have come a long way recently ... |
| 18:40.41 | encryptz | yeah. that'll be your issue, for sure |
| 18:47.16 | bmac2 | fizz, you want to drop by my house and see what I got and what you want for the server? |
| 18:47.21 | bmac2 | and to get the raid array? |
| 18:47.30 | bmac2 | arrays |
| 18:48.45 | fizz | sure thing. where do you live? |
| 18:48.53 | bmac2 | next to the U of utah |
| 18:48.59 | bmac2 | 427 douglas street |
| 18:49.04 | bmac2 | which is 1240 east |
| 18:49.08 | Yorokobi | Student housing, eh? |
| 18:49.11 | bmac2 | lol |
| 18:49.13 | bmac2 | ummm |
| 18:49.14 | bmac2 | no |
| 18:49.41 | bmac2 | come up the S curve to 13 east, U turn back down the hill, first street on the right |
| 18:49.48 | bmac2 | middle of the block on the right |
| 18:50.01 | bmac2 | big green house, you will see my silver tacoma out front |
| 18:50.42 | bmac2 | anyone need / want any token ring network cards? |
| 18:50.48 | bmac2 | I got like 16 of them |
| 18:50.49 | bmac2 | lol |
| 18:50.52 | fizz | cool. hopefully i'll get done here for the day early enough. |
| 18:50.54 | bmac2 | god I need to clean up |
| 18:51.03 | bmac2 | no problem dude |
| 18:51.06 | bmac2 | I am up late anyway |
| 18:51.22 | bmac2 | like most of the night |
| 18:51.29 | bmac2 | I just got up at like noon |
| 18:51.38 | bmac2 | god I hate being unemployed |
| 18:51.52 | fizz | heh. that's what i do between jobs too. it sucks |
| 18:52.03 | bmac2 | yep |
| 18:52.15 | bmac2 | no matter how much you got to do |
| 18:52.22 | bmac2 | your motivation isn't there really |
| 18:52.34 | bmac2 | I do more work on stuff when I got a job |
| 18:52.35 | bmac2 | lol |
| 18:52.37 | bmac2 | sleep less |
| 18:52.40 | bmac2 | get more done |
| 18:52.42 | bmac2 | etc |
| 18:52.43 | fizz | yep. that's the thing i love the most about this job. |
| 18:52.59 | fizz | i dont sit around being bored until 7am every night |
| 18:53.43 | Yorokobi | while (bored) { sleep; } |
| 18:55.01 | fizz | my insomnia is so bad when i am bored. i dont do anything so i feel no need to sleep it off. heh. |
| 18:55.48 | fizz | i've been waiting a month for an xp disk. now dude at my work is telling me wednesday.. last week they were going to be in thursday or friday |
| 18:55.52 | fizz | weak. |
| 19:00.42 | fizz | hahahahahahahahaahhahahahaha |
| 19:01.17 | fizz | wow. shop.canonical.com is on apache 1.3.37 |
| 19:01.27 | fizz | proves how 1337 they are. |
| 19:01.43 | Zelut | wow |
| 19:02.11 | Yorokobi | heh, that's the version shipped with OpenBSD. I wonder ... :) |
| 19:07.37 | fizz | hmmm 2 service fingerprints that aren't recognized. |
| 19:27.59 | bmac2 | no takers on a complete set of token ring cards? |
| 19:28.02 | bmac2 | nice IBM ones |
| 19:28.06 | bmac2 | they are pretty |
| 19:28.14 | bmac2 | haven't been in a machine in at least 15 years |
| 19:28.24 | bmac2 | you KNOW you want them |
| 19:28.37 | bmac2 | :-) |
| 20:16.43 | bmac2 | who was it I was talking in here to about the pcs for kids project? |
| 20:17.27 | bmac2 | anyway I have a box with some cards in it |
| 20:17.36 | bmac2 | several cd drives of various speed to donate |
| 20:20.36 | Yorokobi | bmac2, any AMD socket A procs in that list? |
| 20:22.39 | bmac2 | hmmm |
| 20:22.42 | bmac2 | socket A? |
| 20:22.45 | bmac2 | how old is taht? |
| 20:22.52 | Yorokobi | a few years |
| 20:22.53 | bmac2 | I have a drawer of processors |
| 20:22.57 | bmac2 | very old ones |
| 20:22.58 | bmac2 | let me look |
| 20:23.00 | bmac2 | I don't htink so |
| 20:23.32 | Yorokobi | meh, I don't know why I ask. My extra mobo is a POS that I don't plan on using ... |
| 20:24.05 | Yorokobi | Stupid compulsions. |
| 20:24.57 | bmac2 | lol |
| 20:24.58 | bmac2 | no amd |
| 20:25.06 | bmac2 | I have 16 486 processors |
| 20:25.16 | bmac2 | and an entire flat of pentium I processors |
| 20:25.19 | bmac2 | like 8 of them |
| 20:25.27 | bmac2 | anyone building a beowulf cluster? |
| 20:25.28 | bmac2 | lol |
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| 20:26.20 | bmac2 | AND one pentium PRO |
| 20:26.24 | bmac2 | processor |
| 20:26.25 | bmac2 | from a compaq |
| 20:26.31 | Yorokobi | ooooh, 200MHz? |
| 20:26.42 | bmac2 | yep |
| 20:26.46 | clutchmm | BMAC2!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:26.49 | bmac2 | WITH |
| 20:26.57 | bmac2 | 256 k of cache |
| 20:26.59 | bmac2 | hey clutchmm |
| 20:27.10 | bmac2 | wasn't it you I was talking to about the kids project? |
| 20:27.32 | clutchmm | bmac2: yes, I tried to call you yesterday and left a message |
| 20:27.37 | bmac2 | oh crap |
| 20:27.38 | bmac2 | lol |
| 20:27.43 | bmac2 | on my cell phone? |
| 20:28.01 | bmac2 | you sure did |
| 20:28.04 | bmac2 | sorry man |
| 20:28.10 | bmac2 | I have a huge pile of stuff for you |
| 20:28.13 | bmac2 | cd roms |
| 20:28.16 | bmac2 | hard drives |
| 20:28.20 | clutchmm | my wife took off with your phone number and address in the car, and I didn't manage to get ahold of her untill after 9pm |
| 20:28.31 | bmac2 | and a ton of older controller and video cards |
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| 20:28.48 | bmac2 | I need you to come pick what of htis stuff you want |
| 20:28.49 | clutchmm | sweet |
| 20:28.53 | bmac2 | what you don't want is going to DI |
| 20:28.57 | bmac2 | I am cleaning out my parts |
| 20:29.05 | bmac2 | I have 16 486 processors for you |
| 20:29.05 | bmac2 | lol |
| 20:29.08 | bmac2 | not that you want them |
| 20:29.19 | bmac2 | lot of it is REALLY old shit |
| 20:29.23 | bmac2 | but some of it is usable for the kids |
| 20:29.33 | clutchmm | cool |
| 20:29.55 | clutchmm | the local team has been added as a partner |
| 20:31.01 | bmac2 | god this is scary |
| 20:31.04 | clutchmm | I was talking with encryptz about it yesterday |
| 20:31.06 | bmac2 | I am cleaning out plastic bins |
| 20:31.15 | bmac2 | I don't even know what some of this stuff is |
| 20:31.17 | bmac2 | anymore |
| 20:31.51 | clutchmm | loves finding old stuff in boxes and bins |
| 20:32.58 | bmac2 | remember those old square bins that we used to use for recycling? |
| 20:33.01 | clutchmm | bmac2: I tried contacting the people with the craiglist links you sent me but none of them answered back |
| 20:33.11 | bmac2 | I have one of those half full of hard drives |
| 20:33.13 | clutchmm | yup |
| 20:33.19 | clutchmm | nice |
| 20:33.19 | bmac2 | you are on your own to figure out which ones even work |
| 20:33.25 | bmac2 | most are like 6 gig |
| 20:33.27 | bmac2 | or 10 gig |
| 20:33.28 | bmac2 | but |
| 20:33.34 | bmac2 | will do fine for a starter computer |
| 20:34.04 | clutchmm | even an old 2 or 4 gig drive would work |
| 20:34.33 | clutchmm | I have an adapter that will let me plug them into a usb port to test them |
| 20:36.17 | bmac2 | ok fizz I was wrong I have 4 array cards you can have for the server |
| 20:36.31 | bmac2 | but only two arrays |
| 20:36.38 | bmac2 | so 2 extra cards just in case |
| 20:36.47 | bmac2 | see, it even comes with spare parts!!!! |
| 20:38.13 | clutchmm | bmac2: when would be a good time for me to come over? |
| 20:38.22 | bmac2 | tonight if you want |
| 20:38.31 | bmac2 | I will be here all night |
| 20:38.39 | bmac2 | not going anywhere and no plans |
| 20:38.49 | bmac2 | anyone here use a compaq presario laptop? |
| 20:39.00 | bmac2 | I have the little docking station thing for one |
| 20:39.02 | clutchmm | I'll check with my wife to make sure we don't have plans but tonight should work |
| 20:39.08 | bmac2 | and don't have the laptop anymore |
| 20:39.16 | bmac2 | free to anyone with a laptop that it fitws |
| 20:39.22 | herlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.46 | bmac2 | hey herlo |
| 20:40.03 | mocoloco | lol, I guess that didn't work herlo |
| 20:41.09 | moriancu1er | bmac2: I have an old compaq persario 900 |
| 20:41.38 | bmac2 | moriancu1er, does it have the port on the bottom of hte laptop that the laptop sits down on? |
| 20:41.52 | bmac2 | not hte back but underneath about 2 or 3 inches from the back |
| 20:41.54 | bmac2 | if so |
| 20:42.00 | moriancu1er | bmac2: I'll have to check |
| 20:42.02 | bmac2 | you can use this one |
| 20:42.40 | moriancu1er | won't know til I get home tonight |
| 20:42.52 | herlo | bmac2: hehe |
| 20:42.58 | herlo | mocoloco: yup, guess not |
| 20:43.13 | herlo | is trying to get work done is all, ignoring many channels right now |
| 20:43.29 | herlo | there, now it worked... :) |
| 20:43.45 | mocoloco | there you go |
| 20:44.32 | Yorokobi | wonders why herlo doesn't just log off. Or, if using screen+irssi, use ^AD |
| 20:48.20 | Heartsbane | Yorokobi: because that would make sense? |
| 20:48.33 | Heartsbane | Final Answer |
| 20:48.46 | Heartsbane | Did I win? |
| 20:48.59 | mheath | Hey, anyone here ever had problems with a 32MB Nvidia card not working iwth Compiz? |
| 20:49.08 | Heartsbane | Ya |
| 20:49.10 | mheath | I'm still trying to figure out why that limit is hardcoded |
| 20:49.23 | mheath | You change one variable in the /usr/bin/compiz script, and everything works fine. |
| 20:50.28 | mheath | My screen rotation script is annoying my lately, too. :( |
| 20:50.51 | mocoloco | is that something new? I used a 32mb card back with edgy and it worked fine. is there some 64mb limit hardcoded? |
| 20:50.58 | mheath | mocoloco: Yep. |
| 20:51.08 | nearn | good afternoon guys. |
| 20:51.09 | mheath | mocoloco: Well, NVidia |
| 20:51.16 | mheath | mocoloco: I don't know what the limit for ATI cards is... |
| 20:51.37 | mheath | The /usr/bin/compiz wrapper script in Gutsy has a hardcoded check. If your card has less than 64MB of RAM, it refuses to start compiz. |
| 20:51.59 | mocoloco | now I'm tempted to pull out the machine with that card and play around with it.. |
| 20:52.18 | mheath | the gnome-appearance-settings stuff is pretty unhelpful on the issue, too... |
| 20:52.28 | mheath | It just says "Unable to add Desktop Effects" or something... |
| 20:52.34 | mheath | And the "Help" button doesn't even work |
| 20:52.36 | mocoloco | that's unfortunate |
| 20:52.53 | mheath | mocoloco: Well, of course Edgy wouldn't have that limit.. |
| 20:53.05 | mheath | Edgy took lots of extra effort to start compiz and add it to the system |
| 20:53.06 | bmac2 | ok anyone need a t1 interface card? the one on the wall that quest plugs into? |
| 20:53.12 | mocoloco | and confusing, don't see why there should be a limit, just let users decide how much slowness they'll tolerate :) |
| 20:53.14 | bmac2 | not one for the computer |
| 20:53.29 | mheath | Gutsy it's built in.. |
| 20:53.34 | mheath | Supposed to be a one-click thing to enable it |
| 20:53.34 | Yorokobi | bmac2, a ds0? |
| 20:55.17 | mheath | Grr, what is wrong with this stupid script? |
| 20:55.30 | mheath | My screen rotations script stops working randomly, and I can't ever figure out whats wrong |
| 20:55.45 | mheath | Because when I go to restart it in a terminal so I can debug it, it starts working fine.. |
| 20:58.25 | mocoloco | so just always run it in a terminal, problem solved ;) |
| 20:59.03 | bmac2 | clutchmm, I just went through my cable bin and threw like 25 or so ide cables and some floppy cables into the pile |
| 20:59.06 | mocoloco | seriously, I wonder if there's some environmental thing there? |
| 21:00.12 | clutchmm | bmac2: cool, sorry I'm cleaning up a poopy situation right now |
| 21:04.47 | bmac2 | np |
| 21:04.53 | bmac2 | I am just cleaning up |
| 21:05.01 | bmac2 | and seeing what goes to you and what goes to DI |
| 21:05.16 | bmac2 | I just found 28 pin memory with the little wires sticking out |
| 21:05.22 | bmac2 | that dell used in the early 90s |
| 21:05.28 | bmac2 | god do I have some old shit |
| 21:07.05 | mheath | O.o |
| 21:07.12 | mheath | I don't even remember memory like that. |
| 21:07.39 | mheath | Unless your just talking about 16-bit-with-a-8-bit-address-bus memory chips. |
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| 21:12.48 | bmac2 | lol |
| 21:12.52 | bmac2 | it is really old |
| 21:13.00 | bmac2 | I found like 4 of the cache chips |
| 21:13.04 | bmac2 | for the pentium 90 s |
| 21:13.16 | bmac2 | you had this big memory looking chip |
| 21:13.20 | bmac2 | one notch |
| 21:13.29 | fizz | want a pentium pro board/cpu/ram? |
| 21:13.46 | bmac2 | and i just put in the donation box about 200 chips of 28 pin memory for the old sparcs |
| 21:13.56 | bmac2 | I am talking sparc 2 |
| 21:14.03 | bmac2 | some sparc 10s |
| 21:14.03 | bmac2 | lol |
| 21:14.06 | mheath | Oh, I can't have Desktop Effects enabled :( |
| 21:14.21 | bmac2 | 1 meg chip max on each |
| 21:14.27 | mheath | It works fine in 32MB of RAM, but screen rotating with 32MB of RAM breaks things.. |
| 21:14.35 | bmac2 | fizz, and do what with it? door stop? |
| 21:14.36 | bmac2 | lol |
| 21:16.33 | mocoloco | mheath: ah, maybe that's why the limit exists |
| 21:19.51 | fizz | bmac2: add it to your museum |
| 21:20.34 | fizz | i have a "black box" parallel kvm too. |
| 21:20.37 | fizz | heh |
| 21:29.45 | fizz | is listening to irish folk tag radio on last.fm |
| 21:36.30 | Heartsbane | plans on watching Boondock Saints. |
| 21:36.42 | fizz | i watched that saturday :) |
| 21:36.55 | bmac2 | something I have that is actually nice and brand new is the following memory chip |
| 21:37.15 | bmac2 | hp part numbver P/N 377726-888 |
| 21:37.19 | bmac2 | 1 gig memory chip |
| 21:37.37 | bmac2 | 2RX8 PC2-5300U-555 |
| 21:37.53 | bmac2 | anyone here use that memory? and if so, what you give me trade me for it? |
| 21:40.58 | fizz | i want a cradle modem. |
| 21:41.37 | bmac2 | that I do NOT have |
| 21:41.45 | bmac2 | almost bought one a while back |
| 21:41.49 | bmac2 | for the commadore |
| 21:41.57 | bmac2 | was like $5 at a junk store |
| 21:42.17 | bmac2 | and you too can recreate War Games |
| 21:42.18 | bmac2 | lol |
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